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2026/10/09
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Download This Show is your weekly guide to the world of media, culture, and technology. From social media to gadgets, streaming services to privacy issues. Each week Rae Johnston and guests take a fun, deep dive into how technology is reshaping our lives.
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Could your AI agent end humanity?
2026/10/09
AI agents are popping up everywhere: Facebook, OpenAI, Google. Meanwhile, tech leaders like Mark Zuckerberg and Sam Altman are warning these agents could end humanity. So, how much of this is a marketing tool, and what threat do AI agents actually pose?
We'll return to the basics: what are AI agents, and how much should you be trusting them with? What happens if your AI agent, say... hacks into Medicare?
Plus, deepfakes are distorting the Victorian election. What are deepfakes, how do you know you've seen them, and how are they legal in an election campaign?
GUESTS:
Dr Lorenn Ruster, senior research fellow at the ANU Leadership & Complexity Lab.Tama Leaver, Professor of Internet Studies at Curtin University, and Chief Investigator at the ARC Centre for Excellence for the Digital Child.------------
You might also like:
Our episode about the social media platform for AI agents, Moltbook. We also cover the dead internet theory: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/downloadthisshow/more-bots-than-people-dead-internet-theory/106256520Our episode with the highlights of Melbourne Games Week. https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/downloadthisshow/roblox-child-safety-esafety-commissioner/107067976------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Can technology save us from climate change?
2026/10/02
Technology helped get us into the climate crisis. Could it also get us out?
Bringing extinct species back to life, seeding clouds to control the weather, and cleaning up nuclear energy are just some of the "techno fixes" hawked as solutions to our biggest environmental problems. But at what cost?
And if we are entering an era where technology can reshape the planet, who gets to decide how it’s used, and how do the rest of us get a say?
GUEST:
Richard King, author of Here Be Monsters, which asks is technology reducing our humanity; and Brave New Wild which asks can technology save the planet.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Can books survive the age of algorithms?
2026/09/25
What impact is reading on your Kobo or Kindle having on your brain? As AI turns up in writing, reviewing and literary prizes, how do we decide what's genuinely human creativity? And how is the Australian publishing industry changing as a result of BookTok, Bookstagram and Goodreads?
GUESTS:
Anna Burkey, CEO of Australia Reads.Bec Kavanagh, senior tutor in creative writing and publishing at the University of Melbourne, and former bookseller.Bec & Anna's book recommendations:
Anna says Jaclyn Moriarty who wrote Time Travel for Beginners (2026) has an incredible way with words.Bec prefers works in translation (writing translated from one language to another) as well as short fiction writers. She says Rita Bullwinkle's Headshot (2025) was phenomenal, and that Dahlia de la Cerda's Reservoir Bitches (2024) is top of her TBR list.Voting is still open for the ABC Radio National's Top100 Books countdown. You can vote for your favourite Australian books here: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/radionational/top-100-books-2026/106621398
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This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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How much do our devices know about us?
2026/09/18
It's not just phones. How much do our TVs, streaming boxes, and browsers know?
This week, we look at research that suggests some LG TVs may be gathering more information about our viewing habits than we realised. Plus, there's a streaming box promising free access to subscription services. Is it too good to be true? And how much does it know about me?
And, a former white-hat hacker gives us an internet hygiene refresher. Is public wifi risky? Can I save my passwords in my browser? And does multi-factor authentication actually work?
GUESTS:
Jennifer Dudley-Nicholson, AAP specialist reporter.Alex Hope, professional ethical hacker and cybersecurity expert.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Roblox under pressure from Australia's eSafety Commissioner over child safety
2026/09/11
The eSafety Commissioner has accepted a court-enforceable plan from Roblox to address child safety concerns after questions were raised about whether the platform was meeting its obligations under Australia's Online Safety Act. We'll unpack what parents need to know.
Also on the show, Microsoft is putting time limits on its Xbox Cloud Gaming subscribers. What is cloud gaming, and what does this tell us about the future of digital ownership?
Plus, Melbourne International Games Week returns from 2-11 October. Is it worth going?
GUESTS:
Edmond Tran, managing editor of This Week in Video Games Gemma Driscoll, video game commentator and host of Good Game Spawn Squad.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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What Australia's Privacy Act reforms mean for the tech you use
2026/09/04
Australia's proposed Privacy Act reforms are some of the boldest changes to privacy law we've seen in years. How could it change the tech we use every day? And does this mean Australia is setting a new global privacy standard, or catching up to the rest of the world?
Also on the program, one of Australia's spiciest privacy debates has been the use of wearable cameras. The e-Safety Commissioner has proposed that smart glasses should have an automatic blurring feature. How easy would that be to implement? Would it change the effectiveness of the glasses?
And, there are now cameras in toothbrushes! Specifically, Dyson has just announced an AI-powered toothbrush that helps users water floss their teeth. Will this revamp oral health tech, or is it just another bizarre gadget?
GUESTS:
Alice Clarke, freelance tech journalist and author of the Through The Looking Glass Substack.Karin Verspoor, Dean of the School of Computing Technologies at RMIT University.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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How Ukraine's military drones are changing warfare forever
2026/08/28
Drones went from being flying cameras to autonomous weapons within a handful of years. Our guest, Cory Alpert, explains what he's seen on the front lines of Ukraine's drone war, and why drone warfare is changing international conflict forever.
Also in this episode, we check in on how drones might be used elsewhere: exploring caves on the Moon, patrolling beneath the ocean and, of course, delivering dinner.
How much of this future is Australia actually ready for?
GUESTS:
Cory Alpert, researcher at the University of Melbourne and former Biden-era White House staffer. He's also spent the last few months in Ukraine.Leigh Stark, technology journalist at Pickr.com.au.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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How WA police are using facial recognition technology
2026/08/21
Facial recognition cameras are being rolled out in Western Australia by the police force. Whilst its a new policing tactic in Australia, major retailers including Bunnings, Woolworths and Coles have tested it. How does police use of the technology differ from the retail use? And if you're not a person of interest, what happens to your biometric data?
Also on the show, an ABC News Verify investigation has found Facebook's parent company, Meta, is paying several controversial online creators to make content that generates huge engagement. Among them is a white nationalist with neo-Nazi links, and the founder of an anti-vaccine and anti-lockdown group. How much are these creators making? When does the pursuit of engagement become the monetisation of outrage?
And, tech companies like Amazon and Anthropic are seeking out second hand books as part of a new AI model training plan. Why are they turning to physical libraries, and what happens to the books after they've been processed?
GUESTS:
Georgia Dixon, Editor at WhistleOut. Chris Berg, Professor of Economics at RMIT.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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The Renter Algorithm: Dark patterns and the illusion of choice
2026/08/14
Dark patterns. They're the manipulative practices that are part of the foundations of our online life... and apparently our rental lives.
Confirm shaming, biased framing, and bundled consent are all examples of dark patterns. What are they? What are they doing to our ability to make choices? And how do they relate to rental applications?
And once we've had to fill in these rental application forms, giving over up to 50 points of data to be stored online, how secure is that data? And do we have a choice not to use these platforms in our modern world?
This is episode 2 of our two-part investigation into rental technologies.
GUESTS:
Samantha Floreani, PhD candidate at Monash University with the ADM+S Centre. Her research — The Machine-Readable Renter — examines the role of digital technologies in Australia’s private rental sector, and its impact on renters and housing justice.Lina Pržhedetsky, research fellow at the University of Melbourne Law School, and ARC Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision-Making and Society. She specialises in emerging technology policy.Kylie Davis, founder and president of The Proptech Association Australia.John Gilmovich, founder and director of Real Property Manager, and President of the Property Owners Association of NSW. He's also a licensed real estate agent.Jordan van den Lamb, housing activist and creator of Shit Rentals. You can find the subreddit here. AKA @purplepingers.A big thanks to our guests for this episode.
References:
Sam mentioned a Guardian article that covered data security. It's this one.Rae mentioned our previous series, Opt Out 01 | The guide to taking back control of your online life.------------
This episode was produced on Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, Wurundjeri, Woi Wurrung, and Cobowra country.
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The Renter Algorithm: The invisible system judging tenants
2026/08/07
The Privacy Commissioner has put the RentTech industry on notice over 'unfair and excessive personal information collection'.
If you've rented a home recently, you've probably used one of the online platforms that promise to make applying easier. Submit all your personal details in one place, and they'll share it with the relevant real estate agents.
But somewhere along the way, the intention changed. It became less about proof you have a job, can pay the rent, and won't trash the house, and more about your 'risk profile'. These platforms are collecting up to 50 points of personal data, which some agencies are using AI to sort through.
So, do these tools - used this way - serve renters, or exacerbate an existing power imbalance? And how might we use them better?
GUESTS:
Samantha Floreani, PhD candidate at Monash University with the ADM+S Centre. Her research — The Machine-Readable Renter — examines the role of digital technologies in Australia’s private rental sector, and its impact on renters and housing justice.Lina Pržhedetsky, research fellow at the University of Melbourne Law School, and ARC Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision-Making and Society. She specialises in emerging technology policy.Kylie Davis, founder and president of The Proptech Association Australia.John Gilmovich, founder and director of Real Property Manager, and President of the Property Owners Association of NSW. He's also a licensed real estate agent.Jordan van den Lamb, housing activist and creator of Shit Rentals. You can find the subreddit here. AKA @purplepingers.A big thanks to our guests for this episode. And a special thanks to Leo Patterson Ross, from the Tenant's Union of NSW for helping with fact checking in this episode.
References:
The report Sam mentioned: Essential Homes: Why renting is an essential service.------------
This episode was produced on Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, Wurundjeri, Woi Wurrung, and Cobowra country.
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Have AI models truly "gone rogue"?
2026/07/31
Anthropic's Claude Cowork and an OpenAI model have reportedly "gone rogue", but is that really what happened? And what does it mean to escape a 'sandbox'?
Plus, this week, Apple, Meta and a growing list of secretly filmed strangers all had something to say about smart-glasses and their ability to record people without consent.
More than half of employers now say they regret cutting jobs for AI. What will this mean for staff morale, and the future of businesses?
GUESTS:
Charles Gretton, Director of Attention and Innovation at the Integrated AI Network, and an associate professor at the ANU School of Computing.Jocelyn Brewer, psychologist and founder of Digital Nutrition.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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What is Q-Day and how scared should we all be?
2026/07/24
Quantum computing sounds like science fiction, but all of a sudden the biggest names in tech are treating it like the next industrial arms race. Google, Microsoft, IBM are all chasing breakthroughs that could transform everything from medicine to finance.
However! It does pose a serious security threat. Cybersecurity experts are warning those same machines could one day unravel the encryption protecting our bank accounts, private messages and government secrets.
So, are we finally on the verge of the quantum future we've been promised, and are we actually ready for what comes next?
GUESTS:
Jacinta Bowler, ABC science reporter and host of the new ABC Science Friction series Dead or Alive.Justin Hendry, Editor at InnovationAus.com.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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(Nearly) everything that happened in AI this week
2026/07/17
Anthropic has just released the Spotify Wrapped equivalent of Claude. Claude Reflect claims it can help you optimise your AI use. But will a tool built by an AI company ever genuinely encourage you to use it less?
Also on the program, the humans hired to train AI are secretly getting AI to do it. How does this "AI inbreeding" degrade quality?
Meta launched a tool that would allow someone to generate pictures based on individual Instagram accounts. They've since gone back on this decision, but will this idea become a problem?
And in case you missed it, we also cover the Prime Minister's announcement of the Office of AI in our headlines section.
Fergus mentioned the book Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams.
GUESTS:
Fergus Halliday, journalist at Whistleout.David Braue, tech journalist at Information Age.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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The UN calls for a ban on 'killer robots'
2026/07/10
Microsoft and Xbox have laid off thousands of staff. Sony, Xbox and publishers like Rockstar all seem to be moving away from physical discs. And the UN Secretary General has called for a ban on AI powered ‘killer robots’. What does it all mean?
GUESTS:
Kai Riemer, professor at the University of Sydney Business School and Director of Sydney Executive Plus.Gianfranco Di Giovanni, games reporter at ABC Arts and 102.5 ABC Perth Content Director. The articles Gianni mentioned are here and here.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Will fining social media companies make them uphold the ban?
2026/07/03
The Australian government wants to double the penalty tech companies will face for not keeping kids off their social media platforms. The proposed bill would also compel companies to release documents that prove whether they have been keeping kids off their platforms. How effective will this actually be?
Plus, there's been shifts in the energy sector that mean everyday Australians are missing out on potential savings. Changes have also been made to the energy requirements of data centres in Australia, but will that actually make a difference to household energy prices?
Our final topic this week is the 'tokenpocalypse'. After encouraging everyone to use it as much as possible, all sorts of companies are blowing through their AI token budgets. What does this mean for the viability of AI?
GUESTS:
Petra Stock, climate and environment reporter for Guardian Australia. You can find Petra's work here.Daniel Van Boom, business journalist at Forbes Australia. You can find Daniel's work here.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Music_Lv'r 2026/01/21
Love this show! Quite informative!
Three things I love about this show:
1. Hosted by women;
2. It's intelligent;
3. It's is very good in selecting its subject matter.
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harman sarwar 2020/09/09
Love this Show
I love everything about this show. Thank you
Jack_McCoy 2019/03/01
My Favorite Tech Podcast
Great show! There’s always a nice panel of tech journalists and the topics are endlessly fascinating. It’s a great way to review the week in tech and ...
Karenrmi 2018/05/11
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Like the podcast! It’s a must-listen to when I’m cooking in the galley of my boat on a Friday night in the Marshall Islands. Mark: You are terrific .....
geekboy1985 2017/07/25
ABC at its best
Great podcasts on tech and media from one of the best public broadcasers. keep it up
pleaz 2017/05/20
Great show!
Always entertaining and interesting, with an engaging host!
Beardface00 2016/11/15
Great topics, clearly discussed, good humour
Marc Fennell is a great host and gets to the point with great humour. Always solid.
Teets and skeets 2016/08/05
Really condescending
Yea this guy just sounds very condescending to millennials, to gamers, you name it.
lisajanea68 2016/03/31
Great technology show
Nice easy listening, nothing too complicated, really love this show to keep up with the latest tech out there. Highly recommend!
Parallel Sandwiches 2012/02/20
Do as it says
Really, download this show. It's a great discussion of some big topics in the tech industry with an Australian focus. It's structured and it's smart.
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