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2026/11/06
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Download This Show is your weekly guide to the world of media, culture, and technology. From social media to gadgets, streaming services to privacy issues. Each week Rae Johnston and guests take a fun, deep dive into how technology is reshaping our lives.
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Europe's smart fridges are being hacked. Why?
2026/11/06
Europe's supermarkets are under cyber attack, with hackers targeting smart fridges and refrigeration systems. How has this happened, what impact might it have on food supply, and what else in our lives is hackable?
Plus, we look at Twitter founder Jack Dorsey’s new app, BitChat, and why it’s going viral in France.
And after a major security problem was discovered in one of the web's most widely used infrastructure technologies (PHP), a whole lot of websites had to be taken down and patched. Could a similar vulnerability have the power to take down the whole internet?
GUESTS:
Kath Albury, Professor of Media and Communication at Swinburne University of Technology, and Chief Investigator at the ARC Centre for Excellence in Automated Decision-Making and Society.Phoebe Toups Dugas, Associate Professor of Human-Centred Computing at Monash University AKA the Trans Gamer Professor.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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How technology is changing democracy
2026/10/30
With the US midterm elections looming and our own state elections on the horizon, how is technology shaping the way we vote? And how might it impact democracy?
We hear from fact-checkers, internet researchers and cybersecurity experts about AI-generated political deepfakes, election disinformation, social media algorithms, and the hazards of online voting technology.
GUESTS:
Cory Alpert, former White House staffer, and researcher at Monash University.Lorenn Ruster, researcher, advisor and consultant at the ANU Leadership and Complexity Lab.Tama Leaver, Professor of Internet Studies at Curtin University.Maryanne Taouk, ABC Verify.Dr Erica Mealy, Interim Discipline Lead at the University of the Sunshine Coast.Seamus Byrne, former technology journalist, and PhD research candidate with the ARC Centre of Excellence in Automated Decision Making & Society.Vanessa Teague, CEO of Thinking Cybersecurity.*This episode is an amalgamation of the most interesting conversations we've had about democracy and technology over the last year. If you'd like to revisit these conversations, they can be found here, here, here and here.
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This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Is this the end of software?
2026/10/23
AI is making it easier than ever to take software apart and build a copy. We look at what reverse engineering involves, and whether it is a good idea to use reverse engineered software?
Ukraine's drone are striking Russian data centres. What role do data centres and bots play in spreading disinformation, and what would taking their data centres offline achieve?
Finally, Theranos is back in the spotlight with the new documentary You Can See Everything. So has the tech world has learned anything, including how to weigh a new venture developed by her husband?
GUESTS:
Erica Mealy, technology reporter for The Guardian AustraliaSeamus Byrne, PhD research candidate with the ARC Centre of Excellence in Automated Decision Making & Society------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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The surveillance technology watching Australians
2026/10/16
We expect to be tracked online, but increasingly we're being watched in real life too. Strangers in the street are wearing "pervert" glasses, cameras can follow us through shopping centres, and WA Police have rolled out live facial recognition cameras. In this special episode, how much surveillance is too much? And could Australia follow the US down the path of Flock-style policing?
Plus, how can we protect ourselves from this data collection, and can we rely on privacy law to keep up?
GUESTS:
Josh Taylor, technology reporter for The Guardian Australia.Tom Sulston, Head of Policy at Digital Rights Watch.------------
You might also like:
Our episode looking at how much our devices know about us, with a former white hat hacker: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/downloadthisshow/lg-tvs-streaming-boxes-internet-hygiene-refresher/107094484Our episode about what Australia's proposed Privacy Act reforms mean for the tech you use: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/downloadthisshow/privacy-act-reforms-smart-glasses-anthropic-testing-break/107042866------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Could your AI agent end humanity?
2026/10/09
AI agents are popping up everywhere: Facebook, OpenAI, Google. Meanwhile, tech leaders like Mark Zuckerberg and Sam Altman are warning these agents could end humanity. So, how much of this is a marketing tool, and what threat do AI agents actually pose?
We'll return to the basics: what are AI agents, and how much should you be trusting them with? What happens if your AI agent, say... hacks into Medicare?
Plus, deepfakes are distorting the Victorian election. What are deepfakes, how do you know you've seen them, and how are they legal in an election campaign?
GUESTS:
Dr Lorenn Ruster, senior research fellow at the ANU Leadership & Complexity Lab.Tama Leaver, Professor of Internet Studies at Curtin University, and Chief Investigator at the ARC Centre for Excellence for the Digital Child.------------
You might also like:
Our episode about the social media platform for AI agents, Moltbook. We also cover the dead internet theory: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/downloadthisshow/more-bots-than-people-dead-internet-theory/106256520Our episode with the highlights of Melbourne Games Week. https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/downloadthisshow/roblox-child-safety-esafety-commissioner/107067976------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Can technology save us from climate change?
2026/10/02
Technology helped get us into the climate crisis. Could it also get us out?
Bringing extinct species back to life, seeding clouds to control the weather, and cleaning up nuclear energy are just some of the "techno fixes" hawked as solutions to our biggest environmental problems. But at what cost?
And if we are entering an era where technology can reshape the planet, who gets to decide how it’s used, and how do the rest of us get a say?
GUEST:
Richard King, author of Here Be Monsters, which asks is technology reducing our humanity; and Brave New Wild which asks can technology save the planet.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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The Renter Algorithm: 2Apply responds to privacy concerns
2026/10/01
Are rental applications asking for less personal information now? How safe is your data on 2Apply? And how has 2Apply responded to OAIC's concerns about data privacy?
In April, the Privacy Commissioner called out rental technology platforms, especially 2Apply, for collecting "excessive personal information". So, in our The Renter Algorithm special episodes, we investigated how renters' personal information is being used to create 'risk profiles'*, the power imbalance created by this data collection, and how we got to this point in the first place.
2Apply itself didn't replied when we reached out for comment. But they have now. So, what do they have to say?
Download's special episodes on rental technology platforms can be found here:
Episode 1: The invisible system judging tenantsEpisode 2: Dark patterns and the illusion of choiceSamantha Floreani's article on one of the key changes made since our episodes went to air is here. Our recent episode on the proposed Privacy Act updates is here.
*Since reaching out, 2Apply has clarified they do not use the auto-generated risk profiles we talk about in the special episodes.
GUEST:
Matt McGown, Chief Product Officer at real estate software company Reapit (2Apply's parent company).------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Can books survive the age of algorithms?
2026/09/25
What impact is reading on your Kobo or Kindle having on your brain? As AI turns up in writing, reviewing and literary prizes, how do we decide what's genuinely human creativity? And how is the Australian publishing industry changing as a result of BookTok, Bookstagram and Goodreads?
GUESTS:
Anna Burkey, CEO of Australia Reads.Bec Kavanagh, senior tutor in creative writing and publishing at the University of Melbourne, and former bookseller.Bec & Anna's book recommendations:
Anna says Jaclyn Moriarty who wrote Time Travel for Beginners (2026) has an incredible way with words.Bec prefers works in translation (writing translated from one language to another) as well as short fiction writers. She says Rita Bullwinkle's Headshot (2025) was phenomenal, and that Dahlia de la Cerda's Reservoir Bitches (2024) is top of her TBR list.Voting is still open for the ABC Radio National's Top100 Books countdown. You can vote for your favourite Australian books here: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/radionational/top-100-books-2026/106621398
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This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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How much do our devices know about us?
2026/09/18
It's not just phones. How much do our TVs, streaming boxes, and browsers know?
This week, we look at research that suggests some LG TVs may be gathering more information about our viewing habits than we realised. Plus, there's a streaming box promising free access to subscription services. Is it too good to be true? And how much does it know about me?
And, a former white-hat hacker gives us an internet hygiene refresher. Is public wifi risky? Can I save my passwords in my browser? And does multi-factor authentication actually work?
GUESTS:
Jennifer Dudley-Nicholson, AAP specialist reporter.Alex Hope, professional ethical hacker and cybersecurity expert.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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Roblox under pressure from Australia's eSafety Commissioner over child safety
2026/09/11
The eSafety Commissioner has accepted a court-enforceable plan from Roblox to address child safety concerns after questions were raised about whether the platform was meeting its obligations under Australia's Online Safety Act. We'll unpack what parents need to know.
Also on the show, Microsoft is putting time limits on its Xbox Cloud Gaming subscribers. What is cloud gaming, and what does this tell us about the future of digital ownership?
Plus, Melbourne International Games Week returns from 2-11 October. Is it worth going?
GUESTS:
Edmond Tran, managing editor of This Week in Video Games Gemma Driscoll, video game commentator and host of Good Game Spawn Squad.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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What Australia's Privacy Act reforms mean for the tech you use
2026/09/04
Australia's proposed Privacy Act reforms are some of the boldest changes to privacy law we've seen in years. How could it change the tech we use every day? And does this mean Australia is setting a new global privacy standard, or catching up to the rest of the world?
Also on the program, one of Australia's spiciest privacy debates has been the use of wearable cameras. The e-Safety Commissioner has proposed that smart glasses should have an automatic blurring feature. How easy would that be to implement? Would it change the effectiveness of the glasses?
And, there are now cameras in toothbrushes! Specifically, Dyson has just announced an AI-powered toothbrush that helps users water floss their teeth. Will this revamp oral health tech, or is it just another bizarre gadget?
GUESTS:
Alice Clarke, freelance tech journalist and author of the Through The Looking Glass Substack.Karin Verspoor, Dean of the School of Computing Technologies at RMIT University.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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How Ukraine's military drones are changing warfare forever
2026/08/28
Drones went from being flying cameras to autonomous weapons within a handful of years. Our guest, Cory Alpert, explains what he's seen on the front lines of Ukraine's drone war, and why drone warfare is changing international conflict forever.
Also in this episode, we check in on how drones might be used elsewhere: exploring caves on the Moon, patrolling beneath the ocean and, of course, delivering dinner.
How much of this future is Australia actually ready for?
GUESTS:
Cory Alpert, researcher at the University of Melbourne and former Biden-era White House staffer. He's also spent the last few months in Ukraine.Leigh Stark, technology journalist at Pickr.com.au.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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How WA police are using facial recognition technology
2026/08/21
Facial recognition cameras are being rolled out in Western Australia by the police force. Whilst its a new policing tactic in Australia, major retailers including Bunnings, Woolworths and Coles have tested it. How does police use of the technology differ from the retail use? And if you're not a person of interest, what happens to your biometric data?
Also on the show, an ABC News Verify investigation has found Facebook's parent company, Meta, is paying several controversial online creators to make content that generates huge engagement. Among them is a white nationalist with neo-Nazi links, and the founder of an anti-vaccine and anti-lockdown group. How much are these creators making? When does the pursuit of engagement become the monetisation of outrage?
And, tech companies like Amazon and Anthropic are seeking out second hand books as part of a new AI model training plan. Why are they turning to physical libraries, and what happens to the books after they've been processed?
GUESTS:
Georgia Dixon, Editor at WhistleOut. Chris Berg, Professor of Economics at RMIT.------------
This episode was produced on the lands of the Gadigal, Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri peoples.
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The Renter Algorithm: Dark patterns and the illusion of choice
2026/08/14
Dark patterns. They're the manipulative practices that are part of the foundations of our online life... and apparently our rental lives.
Confirm shaming, biased framing, and bundled consent are all examples of dark patterns. What are they? What are they doing to our ability to make choices? And how do they relate to rental applications?
And once we've had to fill in these rental application forms, giving over up to 50 points of data to be stored online, how secure is that data? And do we have a choice not to use these platforms in our modern world?
This is episode 2 of our two-part investigation into rental technologies.
GUESTS:
Samantha Floreani, PhD candidate at Monash University with the ADM+S Centre. Her research — The Machine-Readable Renter — examines the role of digital technologies in Australia’s private rental sector, and its impact on renters and housing justice.Lina Pržhedetsky, research fellow at the University of Melbourne Law School, and ARC Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision-Making and Society. She specialises in emerging technology policy.Kylie Davis, founder and president of The Proptech Association Australia.John Gilmovich, founder and director of Real Property Manager, and President of the Property Owners Association of NSW. He's also a licensed real estate agent.Jordan van den Lamb, housing activist and creator of Shit Rentals. You can find the subreddit here. AKA @purplepingers.A big thanks to our guests for this episode.
References:
Sam mentioned a Guardian article that covered data security. It's this one.Rae mentioned our previous series, Opt Out 01 | The guide to taking back control of your online life.------------
This episode was produced on Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, Wurundjeri, Woi Wurrung, and Cobowra country.
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The Renter Algorithm: The invisible system judging tenants
2026/08/07
The Privacy Commissioner has put the RentTech industry on notice over 'unfair and excessive personal information collection'.
If you've rented a home recently, you've probably used one of the online platforms that promise to make applying easier. Submit all your personal details in one place, and they'll share it with the relevant real estate agents.
But somewhere along the way, the intention changed. It became less about proof you have a job, can pay the rent, and won't trash the house, and more about your 'risk profile'. These platforms are collecting up to 50 points of personal data, which some agencies are using AI to sort through.
So, do these tools - used this way - serve renters, or exacerbate an existing power imbalance? And how might we use them better?
GUESTS:
Samantha Floreani, PhD candidate at Monash University with the ADM+S Centre. Her research — The Machine-Readable Renter — examines the role of digital technologies in Australia’s private rental sector, and its impact on renters and housing justice.Lina Pržhedetsky, research fellow at the University of Melbourne Law School, and ARC Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision-Making and Society. She specialises in emerging technology policy.Kylie Davis, founder and president of The Proptech Association Australia.John Gilmovich, founder and director of Real Property Manager, and President of the Property Owners Association of NSW. He's also a licensed real estate agent.Jordan van den Lamb, housing activist and creator of Shit Rentals. You can find the subreddit here. AKA @purplepingers.A big thanks to our guests for this episode. And a special thanks to Leo Patterson Ross, from the Tenant's Union of NSW for helping with fact checking in this episode.
References:
The report Sam mentioned: Essential Homes: Why renting is an essential service.------------
This episode was produced on Burramattagal, Darug, Gundungurra, Wurundjeri, Woi Wurrung, and Cobowra country.
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Music_Lv'r 2026/01/21
Love this show! Quite informative!
Three things I love about this show:
1. Hosted by women;
2. It's intelligent;
3. It's is very good in selecting its subject matter.
This is a highly i...
harman sarwar 2020/09/09
Love this Show
I love everything about this show. Thank you
Jack_McCoy 2019/03/01
My Favorite Tech Podcast
Great show! There’s always a nice panel of tech journalists and the topics are endlessly fascinating. It’s a great way to review the week in tech and ...
Karenrmi 2018/05/11
Trending Team
Like the podcast! It’s a must-listen to when I’m cooking in the galley of my boat on a Friday night in the Marshall Islands. Mark: You are terrific .....
geekboy1985 2017/07/25
ABC at its best
Great podcasts on tech and media from one of the best public broadcasers. keep it up
pleaz 2017/05/20
Great show!
Always entertaining and interesting, with an engaging host!
Beardface00 2016/11/15
Great topics, clearly discussed, good humour
Marc Fennell is a great host and gets to the point with great humour. Always solid.
Teets and skeets 2016/08/05
Really condescending
Yea this guy just sounds very condescending to millennials, to gamers, you name it.
lisajanea68 2016/03/31
Great technology show
Nice easy listening, nothing too complicated, really love this show to keep up with the latest tech out there. Highly recommend!
Parallel Sandwiches 2012/02/20
Do as it says
Really, download this show. It's a great discussion of some big topics in the tech industry with an Australian focus. It's structured and it's smart.
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