Zero To Travel Podcast

Jason Moore 0:00
Come here rally really quickly it's bring you on the podcast here. And Oscar. What did you like most about traveling in the USA? Disney World. Wow rides there you have it

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Jason Moore 0:39
Hey, what's up, it's Jason with zero travel.com Welcome to the show, my friend. Thanks for hanging out letting me bring a little travel into your ears today. This is the show to help you travel the world on your terms to fill your life with as much travel as you desire, no matter what your situation or experience. I am sitting on the couch in my backyard with what is apparently the hardest guest to book. You know, originally I was set to interview Brad Pitt, right at this moment, it was going to be a big town hall. We were going to go deep on his life. And I was gonna be huge. But you know what my guest today? This was the only time I could really get her. So I had to say, Sorry, Mr. Pena, I can't do this, because I've got my lovely wife and adore to hear to talk about our trip to America. And the Dorito Welcome back to the show, my friend. Thank you. You are so tough to get on this podcast, even though I see you almost 24 hours a day. Nowadays. Oh, it's busy. By the way, give give a little we got some wind chimes that we brought back to the States. Can you give us a little since you're sitting there, but put the microphone up there. We went to Zen Garden in a Japanese garden in Portland. That's good. Those are nice. And we got these wonderful wind chimes that are based off the intro notes to Amazing Grace. Now with her hanging up here. So anyway, if you hear some times in the background, welcome. Thank you. How are you doing today? Good. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 2:15
how are you? Thanks for having me.

Jason Moore 2:17
You're very welcome. We're doing that really good parenting thing where our kids are sitting in front of the TV watching a movie while we record this because it's summer holiday. But I didn't want too much time to go by. Before we recorded this because we're fresh off our trip to the states. And I wanted you to all I'll get into why I wanted you to create this list. But for those folks from the US who are listening to this, this might be an opportunity to maybe see your country in a new light, maybe add a door to well, you know, being from Norway, she might be seeing things that we don't normally see when we're in our home country. And maybe we can gain a new appreciation for some of the aspects of traveling at home if you're from the States. And for those of you listening outside of the states, maybe this will be giving you some reasons to visit, or just just some food for thought. So quickly. Do you want to outline our trip just just briefly?

Unknown Speaker 3:12
Yeah. So in end of May, we traveled to the US and we went to Florida to visit your family. And we have been in the States for almost six weeks, five and a half week. And most of the time was spent in Florida for the kids the whole time. And we went to lovely Portland, Oregon for six days. But this time, I was mostly because of seeing family, which was very nice.

Jason Moore 3:44
Yeah, just want to give you a little bit of context of what we're talking about almost six weeks in the States, mostly in Florida and in Georgia. And I like she said it got a quick jaunt to Portland, Oregon. So we're gonna get into Phil's list. First, I do want to give a shout out to a listener who left me a message about her long term plan for life of travel with her husband, which they can't live out quite yet. But in the meantime, they've created what I think is a great plan for getting their travel fix before they take off for good. And this might be something to think about. If you're somebody listening, who maybe you're saving for a big trip, like you're going to take a gap year you're going to spend a year traveling around the world. And it might take you a few years to save up for a trip like that. But you know, you don't want to just not travel in between. So she's going to share an idea around that. Before we dive into all of this. I want to say a quick thanks to one of our sponsors. When big adventures knock you want to say yes but doing the things you love can require a bit of pre planning here at zero to travel. We don't shy away from real life conversations and today we're talking about one of the most taboo topics finances. US Bank offers a wide range of credit cards for a wide variety of financial needs. One of its most useful cards is the US Bank visa Platinum Card. With a low introductory APR for 20 billing cycles. This card is a tool for getting ahead. The US Bank visa platinum card is a savvy financial tool for large purchases, unexpected expenses and balance transfers and with the ability to customize your payment date, this card gives you control over your financial future Apply now at us bank.com/platinum with the US Bank visa platinum card, have peace of mind for all of your financial needs. To see if you qualify visit us bank.com/platinum Limited time offer. The creditor and issuer of this card is US Bank National Association pursuant to a license from visa USA Inc. Some restrictions may apply. Now I want to play this voicemail from zero to travel podcast listener Donna checking in from Down Under. Here's what she had to say. Hi, Jason.

Donna 6:00
It's Donna from Perth, Western Australia. I've been listening to your podcasts for the last few years and they have really set me on fire. Thank you, I just gotta say thank you to you and all your guests that you have on such an inspiration. Well, I'm 35, my husband's 57. And I gave up my full time job as an early childhood teaching assistant and have started some little side hustles that hopefully will now give me the flexibility to do more travel and with my husband, but he's still five, seven years off retiring. And I'm just happy as a pig in mud doing what I'm doing. But he's going off to work every day, just seeing out his last seven years of work. So I've created a schedule that's on our fridge now that every year we have a holiday. So alternate between a short holiday now we're just going to go off to Lombok for two or three weeks, the year after that will disappear for six weeks and go to Vietnam. The year after that we'll do another little short two or three holiday two or three week holiday. After that, we'll do another big long holiday, etc for the next couple of years, then we will be retired the ultimate long holiday. But why wait till then. So have started now. Okay, I just want to say thank you once again, I'm running out of time by now.

Jason Moore 7:27
I'd love that love to hear the sounds of Australia, like Yes. Thank you. Thanks, Donna. It sounds like alternating between the short and long holidays is something that's going to allow you to keep saving for retirement and still travel. And that seems like a great balance for you. And I feel like everybody has to find that balance right

Unknown Speaker 7:48
on. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's a part of life working for most of us. And but it's nice to have a plan like that and to have something to look forward to. Which sounds like they have a really good plan. Yeah, I

Jason Moore 8:03
think one of the tricks too, is just having those travel and life experiences without going broke. Yeah, we spent quite a bit of money, I'd say, in the States, and there's inflationary reasons and things like that. But we were prioritizing this experience this summer with our family.

Unknown Speaker 8:20
Yeah, yeah, we have decided beforehand that we were going to spend some money and spend time together. And that's what we have done. And probably also gained too much. Too much ice cream. But I think it's smart to have if you're traveling when with somebody, for example, your spouse, or you should talk about budget, absolutely. Like what are we willing to spend, and why. And we both decided that this was a trip that we we were okay with spending some money and we saved up we haven't really traveled much during Corona. So it was a reason to have fun and do a lot of things with our kids, which has been great.

Jason Moore 9:06
Yeah, thanks. I hadn't thought about bringing this up. But I do think what you said is important point, the double intention, the dual intention, we had one to spend time with family. So we created space, mental space and actual space throughout, like you took a leave of absence from your work, I left some my own business behind. And we just created the space for ourselves for this time together. And then the intention you mentioned behind. I think it was just more of a mindset for me like, Hey, we're going to spend some money on this. We're going to spend some 1000s of dollars and I'm totally cool with that. Like I want to have this experience with my family. You know, we're not going to go broke. We can afford to do it right now. And I think, at least for me, when I have that intention, that mindset of like hey, I'm just going to like this Enjoy some of the fruits of my labor and not think too much about what I'm spending not like I'm gonna foolishly start throwing money all around and just wasting it. But you know what I mean, just enjoying it as opposed to worrying about it.

Unknown Speaker 10:14
Yeah. And we talked about it, it has been probably like you say, the mindset that you, you have decided that so you don't panic when you see like, oh my gosh, we use so much money. But we had a mutual agreement on that. It's okay that we are spending some money. Yeah, yeah.

Jason Moore 10:33
Can I have some fun with it? Well, we did have a lot of travel experiences. And let's talk about this list of yours. Our trip, you heard a bit of context around our trip, we did go to Disney World. We did spend time in Fort Myers, Florida with family. And we did go to Portland, Oregon. And I asked you to put together this list for a couple reasons. First of all, I was really curious, in general about how you see America as a foreigner, even though you're married to me, and we've been married for years, and you've been to America multiple times. You know, you're still a foreign I'm you're from Norway, you you're still seeing it with different eyes, right. And so I thought it'd be super fun to hear your take and riff on these things a bit. And then secondly, I just thought it would be fun to share this with listeners here to see if they you know, maybe agree or disagree with any of your points. If this sparks any new perspectives for them, maybe creates new appreciations, like I said, at the top, just to see and also for me, maybe this will help me see some of the things from my own home country come from the US with fresh eyes. So you can tell me about your list and how you created it. And then let's get into it, if you don't mind?

Unknown Speaker 11:47
Well, it was a fun challenge. And this is not based only on the trip we have now this is based on my experience with being in America several times now. I love America, it's a lot of things to love America for. Unfortunately, there are some things that is not that great, too. Which is is in every country. And this is not to discuss politics, obviously, it's all subjective. Yeah, it's subjective. And then this episode, we're focusing on the positive about America and not like the topics that are really like, politics, like a lot of things that I don't really understand. But this is about the positive things.

Jason Moore 12:31
So we're gonna we're gonna have some fun with it. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 12:33
So it's the top six things for me, that I think is the best about traveling in America.

Jason Moore 12:43
Okay, you want to lay it on it? This is sort of ranked, right? I mean, this ranking could change tomorrow, but we kind of did it from you did it from six to one, I don't know the list. By the way. That's what makes this fun, because you're gonna reveal this in real time, and then we can just kind of talk about it. Yeah. You want to give us your number six?

Unknown Speaker 13:00
Yep. It's kind of probably weird. But if you've been to Europe, you will probably understand it. This is something Americans should be very proud of. I'm very glad that you have. And that's available toilets and restrooms everywhere.

Jason Moore 13:21
Yes,

Unknown Speaker 13:22
is great, especially for me and our family, I think because we are going to the bathroom all the time. And with kids, it's really, really nice. But it's also like here in Norway and also in Europe. You it can be hard to find like, toilet when you're out annoyingly hard. Yeah. And you have to pay for it. And I feel like that's like a thing in America. That is it's freely available and it's free. And it's normally clean and nice. Yeah, it's great. Especially also when you're traveling, you want to be able to easily have access to bathrooms.

Jason Moore 14:06
Yeah, I mean, every human needs to go to the bathroom. So it always boggles my mind in Europe. How progressive they are whatever, I'm using air quotes, that they just can't more easily provide this basic need at the Oslo City Mall. For example. It's a mall you go it's a shopping mall. You have to pay. What is it now? I think 25 crowns? Yeah, like $2 Maybe it's like two or three bucks to go to the bathroom. And we went to an outlet mall. Sanibel outlets near Sanibel Island in Florida. And they specifically say in the sign there's bathrooms in every store. They're like, letting you know Hey, it's okay to go to the bathroom. And so we didn't even went into a luggage store and I'm like, there can't be a bathroom here. There's nothing but luggage. And then our daughter had to go to the bathroom. Big surprise and into we they opened the back door. And there we were with boxes and things we were in the bathroom. So interesting on your list. Bathrooms.

Unknown Speaker 15:11
Well, like you said, everybody have to go toilet

Jason Moore 15:13
talk potty humor.

Unknown Speaker 15:15
No, it's not necessary.

Jason Moore 15:18
It is. It is very nice part about you know, people are like alright, yeah, I think you're gonna give us some reasons to travel to America. We're not We're not traveling to America, just for the bathrooms. Are we? Oh, no,

Unknown Speaker 15:28
no, that was that was why probably number six. Okay, top six.

Jason Moore 15:33
That's good, though. I like it. And I agree.

Unknown Speaker 15:34
Yeah. So now my number five is the diversity in landscape that you have in America. You can like experience beaches, and really, really nice beaches, and awesome forces, mountains, you have deserts. You have the flat landscape, you have everything. And I really like and value that.

Jason Moore 16:02
It's a huge country. It is overwhelming, almost when you're thinking about the diversity of landscape and being intentional with what you want to do with your time. So if you're listening to this, and you're, you're planning a trip around the states.

Unknown Speaker 16:16
Yeah, you can go like you can go on like a beach holiday. You can go on fjord cruise up in Alaska, you can go skiing in the mountains. You can have the total flats, landscape. You can go hiking, you can Yeah, you can. It's pretty incredible. Yeah, that's everything.

Jason Moore 16:40
I just watched Forrest Gump run across America.

Unknown Speaker 16:42
Yeah. Yeah. Like, you can also like, yeah, you can live in Colorado in the winter, for example. And you go to one of the coasts and you have the summer. Yeah. Which is, of course, like America is a huge country. So but it's I think it's, it's a very nice thing about absolutely, the US

Jason Moore 17:04
100% agree. And though it's one of my favorite places, I think it is my favorite place to travel Overland. Because you just see that gradual change over days, and I've driven from San Francisco to New York, for example. I've criss crossed in every which way for many years, and it's it never ceases to amaze me the sunsets and the desert landscapes and the mountains and like you said, the prairies and the Midwest and everything. I love that that's on your list.

Unknown Speaker 17:33
Yeah, too. Okay. Number four. All right. It's helpful, and nice. People. For the most, I think Americans are really nice people. Props to the people. Yes, Americans are in general, very nice. They go out of their way. Many, many times I've experienced that. Very helpful. are interested. I find the American people very friendly. For the most.

Jason Moore 18:08
Yeah, I mean, of course,

Unknown Speaker 18:12
you can always experience that is not but I think if you go to America, you will experience that people are very friendly.

Jason Moore 18:19
Yeah, right. Was there like an interaction or two that stands out that made you think of this?

Unknown Speaker 18:24
I just feel like every time I'm in the US, you always meet somebody that is very nice. Like, I remember I told you that the first experience with America for me was New York. And I know you say that. It's not necessarily known for being the most friendly on the East Coast. Yeah. But I remember the first time there and also my family that we thought it was very friendly. Yeah. Yeah.

Jason Moore 18:54
And it's a different kind of friendly. It's but I've been very friendly.

Unknown Speaker 18:58
Yeah. And I have lessons. I'm married to you. Now. I understand how that

Jason Moore 19:02
is. Well, it's just a New York, you have to know the New York way. Yeah. But

Unknown Speaker 19:05
I have experienced like, one time we were in Washington, and it was like a snowstorm. And this policeman came in, like, help. Like, he tried to save me. He was like, you have to go inside and you know, like, super friendly and nice looking out for you looking out for me. In stores. People are friendly. And I think also it's something in the culture, you use more maybe a little bit more formal tone than we are having here in Northern Europe.

Jason Moore 19:34
I mean, I've heard it, people say, you know, they think or like Europeans say that. Americans are I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here, I guess and just get the other side like that Americans are oh, it's like fake friendly. Like they're like how you doing? It's just you know, that.

Unknown Speaker 19:48
I feel like it's genuinely like, Jeff but of course, yeah, genuine sorry. But of course, I don't know. Maybe.

Jason Moore 19:58
I agree with you. I think it's genuine I I just think they misinterpret to the there's certain jargon that is used in every language, right? One of the things that we say in America is like, Oh, how you doing? Yeah, you know. And then like, people might say people here might say, not necessarily Norway, but I've talked to Europeans where they say, Hey, like they don't they're saying How you doing, but they don't really care how you're doing? It's like, well, no, that's just kind of like a greeting. It's like saying, Hello, you're taking it to literally, it's just the expression that they use to kind of greet you. And sometimes you'd say, like, I find that Americans can be really engaging with the conversation and are willing to go deeper than the surface level. Yeah, pretty quickly. For example, we were standing alone at the airport on our way to Portland, and the woman in front of us. I don't even remember how we started, did we even start talking to her? Or we just might have asked a question like, is this the I don't even know?

Unknown Speaker 20:52
Yeah, we were standing in line and they want to respond. She's like,

Jason Moore 20:55
we said, like, one thing you think I only remember might have been just like, oh, yeah, it's good to have some coffee now or something. Who knows? She was like, Oh, I just have to tell some Can I tell you something? And she's standing there. She's probably about 70, maybe 65. Standing there with a man who's probably 50 or whatever. 55. Maybe? She's like, this is my biological son. And we only just met, like two years ago. And now we've reconnected and like, he's she's just like, super happy with his birth parents. And now we're going to Santa was like a whole story. Yeah. Wow. Oh, my gosh. And it was like, I can't believe this woman's just opening up about this totally personal thing that's going on in her life. And I mean, that he seemed like, kind of like, Yeah, Mom, you know, but she's like, I had him when I was 16. I didn't know what to do. So I'm so grateful that the byla the adoptive parents, excuse me, like raised him and he's had a good life. And he's like, oh, yeah, I have and you know, and it was just like, they'd only their mother and son, but they'd only had spent Yeah, couple last couple years together. And probably, you know, when they can see each other, I don't know how much time they've spent together. But it was just, it was like a five minute interaction. And we got a we got a serious story about their life. And that was just in an air and an airport security line. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 22:16
So it was and it was sweet. And it wasn't like that she wanted any attention for it. It was just like, I she was so happy. She needed to tell, which was very sweet.

Jason Moore 22:27
Yes. All right. Our kids are talking to us now. Since they're here. We might as well bring Ellie out. And Oscar Camilla rally. Really quickly. It's bring you on the podcast here. And Oscar. What did you like most about traveling in the USA? Disney World. Rides there you have Disney rides. And your family right spending time with your mommy and daddy. All right. Yeah. I have to just like plan it into their subconscious. Okay. Mom has gotten number three. on our list number

Unknown Speaker 23:10
three. It's not a surprise for you. But it might be surprisingly for listeners. Okay. I'm curious American grocery stores. Oh, yeah. One of my big thing to go to in America.

Jason Moore 23:26
It's not the Grand Canyon. It's not New York's inom it's the Publix in South Florida. No,

Unknown Speaker 23:32
that's not. But it's just the selection.

Unknown Speaker 23:35
It is, is off the chain. You're

Unknown Speaker 23:39
and it's also fun, because it's like people watching and it's like, yeah, and it's a lot of things that we don't have in in Norway. So it's, it's fun. I can spend a lot of time there. I just like,

Jason Moore 23:53
Listen, I I don't find this weird at all. And I don't think listeners will find this weird if you think about it, because well, you can weigh in and let us know. I always have a link to the voicemail box. So leave a message if you'd like about this. But I know when I go to a foreign country. I love going to the grocery stores.

Unknown Speaker 24:11
I love it and other countries too. Yeah, it's just that in America, they're like so huge. This election like you know, but I also love it in like small stories in Greece or like, you know, I love it. And I'm so Germany and ya know, I like it in other countries too. But it's something special about the American grocery store.

Jason Moore 24:30
Absolutely. And it is next level, even for me going back. Well, here's a funny story. So when we first got there, we stayed with my dad in Fort Myers for 13 days, my dad my stepmom and you know, we had to sort of get our supplies we had to get some things from the grocery store. And my dad he's he usually drives to the store and then my step model ACO will go in and he'll like wait out in the car. So he drove me to the store because we were all in the same car was just me and him and he's like, Oh my I'll just run and get Some things just to kind of get us going for the first couple days. Of course, I was in there for like a half hour. And he's like, Well, what took you so long? Well, first of all, when I've been out of my home country for a long time, and I come back to the store, it's always totally shocking and overwhelming. And just like, wow, it's like kidney candy store. Like, first of all, what new products are there, there's like 15 Different kinds of peanut butter and cheese nips, and you can get like, you know, extra toasty cheeses and regular cheeses and cheeses with low, you know, it's like, it's unbelievable. And that's just the cheeses. I mean, it's just so much stuff. So they come up with new things. And then they have like, my favorite things. And you're just looking around like, oh, my gosh, what do I want? This is crazy. I haven't gotten to have any this food. And then also, just the practicality of well, how big they are. Yeah, seeing a map. Yeah. So like, I was like, trying to explain to my dad, well, you know, I forgot one thing. So I had to go back all the way to the other side of the store that I was on. That's like a half a mile walk. I mean, I'm exaggerating, of course, but you know, so if you just put if you do that a few times, and you don't know where anything is because it's not the store you go to. You walk like three miles in the store just to get all the things you need. Anyway, grocery stores I love that that's on your list. By the way outside of America. What is your favorite place to go?

Unknown Speaker 26:20
In groceries? Do you have to have one Germany I think okay. Yeah, Germany have great grocery stores. All right,

Jason Moore 26:26
we're getting down to number two and one drumroll, please. Well, we shouldn't do to one.

Unknown Speaker 26:31
Wow. Number two as that I love the small towns in America. Oh, just a small town. quickly because I am. I am a small town girl war.

Jason Moore 26:43
How many people come from your town? You should let

Unknown Speaker 26:48
your like

Jason Moore 26:48
1200 1200 people any bitty teeny weeny town angol but it's got some beauty. It's a beautiful place. Beautiful place.

Unknown Speaker 26:59
And that's probably also because I maybe I feel home or something. But I love the mountain towns. The small

Jason Moore 27:09
towns okay. Yeah, but I love I hit any on this trip. But no,

Unknown Speaker 27:12
not the mountains down. But just like road tripping. And America and go to small towns? Yeah. is amazing. I think. Is it the charm? Yeah. Charming. And it's yeah, I want I like the same thing here. I just, I don't know. I love the cities too. But I think like the I love the architecture. I love, like going to like the gas station and just see like, you know, they've like kind of them. Some of them are like, thoroughly beaten up and like, then they can have some quirky small shops and restaurants. Yeah, I like, like the small places. I think it's very charming.

Jason Moore 28:00
Yeah. And they're like, I think quirky was a great word.

Unknown Speaker 28:03
And you can find some really treasures I think like you can find like, cool bars that are unique. Like I remember. I think it was in. Steamboat. Yeah. In Colorado, we went and we went to this bar, which was like, totally fun and

Jason Moore 28:21
weird. And sort of divey Yeah, yeah, I can't remember.

Unknown Speaker 28:24
And you can find like thrift stores that have like, really cool things. I just, it's genuine. And it's Yeah, I like that.

Jason Moore 28:34
Yeah, it's funky. You know, Portland, I think is the definition of funky from a city perspective. And I one of the reasons why I kind of thought about this, when we were walking around Portland, like we talked about it, we were cruising the strip on one of those strips, just did a lot of walking there, which I love just wandering around cities, but you know, they fight hard against chains, big chains and big companies I feel in Portland, Oregon, in some cities, like I think everybody does. Yeah. So consequently, you get a lot of independently owned businesses. And when you stack a series of independently owned businesses, and pack them into a city, it becomes you as unique and as funky and as a eclectic as each individual human is, right? Because everybody's bring their own unique experience to their business. And the homogeny of like, Starbucks or something like that, where it's just, you know, it's gonna kind of like look and feel the same everywhere. Well, it's going to be completely different based on those business owners personalities. So you jam all that together, and it just makes a very, for a very unique place.

Unknown Speaker 29:49
Yeah, you know, support local businesses.

Jason Moore 29:53
Yeah, it's important. All right, number one, number

Unknown Speaker 29:57
one. It is The American national parks and restaurants is that what do you call it?

Jason Moore 30:08
Just the natural areas that are protected. You can say, right? There's a lot of foresters.

Unknown Speaker 30:12
Yeah. I love that. It's per national

Jason Moore 30:16
parks and national forests and different protected areas. And

Unknown Speaker 30:21
I love that. That's my top. One thing,

Jason Moore 30:24
the protected nature areas.

Unknown Speaker 30:26
Yeah. The national parks, we've been to a few I know, You've been through more than me, obviously. But I just think it's so important for America to keep that to take care of it. And not fall for the Tempus of like, selling out. Lands, for example, because it's so important to, to keep it and also like, I think America's I remember first time we went to the Rocky Mountain National Park, it was, for me, it was a little surprising that but I understand that it's so big, but you have paved roads, for example, in which is not normally here. But I understand it in the way of like having it as an access to all people and I think that is very important, too. But it's yeah, it's like, pearls in America is the national parks. And I love going to them.

Jason Moore 31:31
Yeah. And I mean, there's even small areas. You know, we went to the slough the slew

Unknown Speaker 31:39
Yeah, yeah. That's why I didn't say only national parks, but also the forces and the research, or is that what you call it?

Jason Moore 31:47
Yeah, the reserves. And yeah, I'm even blanking out on some of this because I started speaking Norwegian for the first time in a while when I came back and now I'm starting to forget some English words. The slew was a good example of a just a small like, our, our dad and stepmom took us there first, where you walk in, they built these planks that run through essentially like sort of cypress tree like swampy type thing that swampy but it's these trees are growing out of the water, and they have an elevated walkway and you can see like, birds and frogs and lizards and alligators and things like that. And it's just really cool how they built this because you wouldn't, nobody's going to put on you know, you're not going to, like swim through that or wade through miles of hot, you know, so the fact that they built these wooden boardwalks to go and take you into this forest that you wouldn't, wouldn't really be accessible and that's just a small little reserve area, but it's still fairly big. And there's just so many little places like that I feel even outside of just the major sort of highlight national parks and like Yosemite and Grand Canyon and those big ones but there's a lot of small little gems that are just small preserves, yeah, that's one deserves you know, yeah, national forests and things like that that are a bit off the beaten track. So nice list, buddy.

Unknown Speaker 33:14
Yeah, that's my top let's

Jason Moore 33:17
recap let me recap this number six the toilets. Number five, the landscapes number four, the people I'm glad that people were in front of the toilets on alert because you're married to an American man.

Unknown Speaker 33:29
Maybe it should be higher up

Jason Moore 33:32
the grocery stores were higher than people like to I know I made you're sort of ranking at the last minute but I understand it's you're just talking about the experience you're not introvert. Number two is the small towns and number one is the protected nature areas. You know I don't see food on this list ad. No, well, I mean what about the ice cream places? What about those big portions that I know people say that's a negative or a positive depending on how you look at it July antic portion

Unknown Speaker 34:09
I like that you have doggie bags but yeah, this wasn't about we can probably make an episode with just food. Yeah. This is my top six. Yeah, and of course like you can fill it in with like, Oh, I like going to the small towns and have try out different small restaurants and stuff that can be a thing. But we also had some bad experience with that. So no, it's not about the food this time. But you can build it into the grocery stores where you can buy food and you have a huge selection Selection. Ice cream. We had some really good ice cream especially in Portland salts and straw was die so good. Also love boats in Fort Myers, Florida is good shout out to them. I really appreciate it. The small places and the nature that's

Jason Moore 35:03
Yeah, yeah. And by the way, we forgot to mention at the top, we said that we both agreed when you were going to make this list that it was a given that family would have been, oh, yeah, seeing the family and being connected with them, was the whole reason we went. So we didn't put that on the list because that was just a given. We didn't want to eat up a spot with the family because that was the number one reason we went. And it was so wonderful to see everybody. So if you're all are listening, it's great to see you. Thanks for the hospitality and adore to one of the things that people do love I find about you coming on the show, particularly my family is that usually make fun of me or tell some embarrassing stories? Do you have anything to share? Before we let you go? I feel like I just made it through a podcast without you getting too many digs on me really any digs at all. So I feel pretty lucky. Trying to be a good girl. Wow. She's at a loss for words for once. Well, we had a good time, and a lot of laughs

Unknown Speaker 36:08
It was a great trip along the way. And America is a great country, just fix your politics a little bit. Alright.

Jason Moore 36:15
Alright, so here we go. A Norwegians top six reasons to love traveling in the USA. Let's hear yours, whether you're from the States or not, I'd love for you to add to this list, you can drop me a line Jason at zero travel.com anytime or you click that link in every show notes goes right to the voicemail box. No email required, you just leave a 92nd voicemail. Of course, if you haven't jumped on the list, zero to travel.com. Keep in touch with all the good stuff off the podcasts and I got some new projects in the works that are brewing. So I want to keep you posted on those as well. If you listen to the show, you want to stay in touch. We'd love to have you on the free newsletter there. On the door. I have asked you to kindly provide the quote for the show. I do not have a quote. But I like to close out with a nice thoughtful quote. And I'm gonna turn it over to you to leave us with that.

Unknown Speaker 37:11
Yeah. Well, I'm sure you've told that we also have a very nice sin calendar.

Jason Moore 37:16
So wisdom from the east. Yes, love that calendar.

Unknown Speaker 37:19
It's not traveled related. It's just in general. But I think it's something we all have to remember when things aren't going so great maybe or we have done something and feel like we have failed and that you should be kind to yourself. The court is like this. Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.

Jason Moore 37:43
Love it. We'll leave you with that. Thank you so much for listening. I'll see you next time.

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