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Our mindsets determine the way we see the world, as well as, the way we behave and who we are as people. It’s very easy and normal to stay stuck in fixed mindsets – limiting beliefs about our abilities and skills that prevent us to learn new things. We can intentionally cultivate a growth mindset that allows us to stretch our minds and amplify the realm of possibilities of what we do, and who we are. Amplifying our mindsets is one of the secrets of success, for most entrepreneurs, business owners, and professionals out there.
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Harnessing Human Potential in the Age of AI – Elan Gelfand interviews Dr. Ana Melikian
2025/12/12
AI is going to change everything. And the best way to make sure that potential is leveraged for a better future for us all—including the planet—is by first tapping into our human potential.
- Dr. Ana Melikian
In this episode, Ana Melikian brings us a compelling conversation that explores the evolving landscape of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and how it intersects with our unique human potential. Originally recorded for the Abundant Thinking podcast, Elan Gelfand interviews Ana Melikian about navigating the age of AI—not by competing with technology, but by leveraging our distinctly human qualities.
Throughout the discussion, Ana Melikian highlights that technological revolutions have always shaped human history, and AI is no different. She traces our journey from the Stone Age to today’s digital age, revealing how we've consistently redefined what it means to be human alongside technological advancements. The conversation underscores the importance of staying intentional, self-aware, and collaborative as we face rapid change.
Using vivid analogies—like riding the “100-Foot AI wave”—Ana Melikian suggests we approach AI as a team sport, championing the idea of collaboration between humans and technology, rather than working in isolation or fear. She also addresses the challenges of reskilling, adapting to workforce changes, and embracing new opportunities that arise as some jobs disappear and new ones emerge.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about how to future-proof themselves and their organizations, lead intentionally, and harness AI to build a better world.
Let’s dive in!
***This episode is rebroadcast here at the MINDSET ZONE® with explicit consent from Elan Gelfand, the host of the “Abundant Thinking” podcast.
This week on the MINDSET ZONE podcast:
00:00 The potential (and disruption) of AI
02:33 Humans and technology: Partners, not opposites
04:45 Cultural identity, revolutions, and redefining humanity
08:12 Navigating change: Adapting culture and mindset
12:20 AI in the workplace: Threat or opportunity?
13:19 The “hundred-foot AI wave”: Collaboration and teamwork
18:29 Adapting, reskilling, and reinventing the game
21:34 Intentional leadership in the AI era
23:13 How to be a team player with AI
Meet Your Host:
Ana Melikian, Ph.D., advises leaders on how to amplify impact while avoiding burnout. She is passionate about teaching others how to unlock their human potential using simple and powerful approaches such as her P.I.E. method.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
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The Real Barrier to AI Progress: Human Leadership, Not Technology with Kate Lowry
2025/11/28
If you treat AI models like a valued thought partner and true collaborator, you can create something much more enduring—which is genuine innovation."
- Kate Lowry
In this episode, Ana Melikian welcomes Kate Lowry, CEO, coach, and author of "Unbreakable," to delve into the powerful impact of leadership styles on innovation—especially in the era of AI. Together, they unpack why fear-based leadership blocks creativity and how a shift toward human-centered practices can unlock profound potential in both organizations and emerging technology.
Kate Lowry shares insights from her work coaching both human leaders and AI models, highlighting how treating people and artificial intelligence as mere tools stifles growth, collaboration, and genuine innovation. The conversation explores the domino effect of fear in company cultures and the urgent need to create psychologically safe environments for teams and for oneself.
Listeners will learn actionable strategies to cultivate experimentation and creative risk-taking, including the value of celebrating mistakes, making space for rest, and building cultures where everyone’s voice matters. Ana Melikian and Kate Lowry discuss how leaders can better support their teams—and themselves—by fostering environments rooted in trust, self-awareness, and human connection.
Whether you’re leading a team, building a company, or experimenting with AI, this episode offers essential advice on how to move beyond restrictive, fear-driven habits and step boldly into a future of unbreakable innovation and impact.
Let's dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 – Introduction & Host Welcome
00:15 – What is Fear-Based Leadership?
01:50 – How Fear-Based Leadership Blocks Innovation
03:15 – Examples from Tech Industry (Zuckerberg, Musk, Microsoft)
05:00 – The Chain Reaction of Fear in Organizations
06:30 – Treating AI as a Tool vs. a Teammate
08:30 – Coaching AI Models & Humanizing AI
10:30 – Book Reference: "Co-Intelligence" and Human/AI Collaboration
12:00 – Leadership Practices: Celebrating Mistakes & Safe Spaces
14:00 – Psychological Safety & Maslow’s Hierarchy
15:30 – Shifting from Fear-Based to Strengths-Based Leadership
17:00 – Coaching Leaders: Creating Space for Self-Discovery
18:30 – The 9-9-6 Work Culture & Silicon Valley
20:00 – The Value of Rest and Leisure for Innovation
22:00 – Sports Analogy: Rest for Peak Performance
23:30 – Burnout, Attrition, and Cognitive Flexibility
24:30 – About the Book: "Unbreakable" & Where to Find More
About the Guest
Kate Lowry is a CEO coach, venture capitalist, and author based in Silicon Valley. An expert in fear-based leaders, Kate developed her methodology growing up in a personal hierarchical family, then refined her approach in the elite worlds of start-ups, private equity, management consulting, and big tech at McKinsey, Meta, and Insight Partners. She is the author of Unbreakable: How to Thrive Under Fear-Based Leaders. In her free time, you can find her writing comedy and music and cuddling her service dog, Annie.
Resources:
Book: Unbreakable: How to Thrive Under Fear-Based Leaders
Website: https://www.katelowry.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinejlowry/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kateunbreakablelowry/
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Responsible AI and Human-Centered Tech: Bridging Gaps with Brenda Darden Wilkerson
2025/11/21
People come in all shapes, sizes, experiences, ages, dialects, et cetera. And as we move more into an automated world, communication still is key."
- Brenda Darden Wilkerson
In this episode, Ana Melikian is joined by Brenda Darden Wilkerson, President and CEO of AnitaB.org, to examine the human side of technology and the importance of responsible AI. Drawing on her personal journey and background in computer science, Brenda shares how her passion for improving the human condition has shaped her approach to tech—and why it's crucial to design technology that serves everyone, not just those who build it.
Together, Ana and Brenda unpack the rapid evolution of AI, its impact on society, and the widening gaps it threatens to create. They discuss the risks of leaving people behind in the wake of technological advances, while stressing the power we have to shape how AI is developed and adopted. Brenda highlights the need for diverse perspectives at the table when designing both tech and policy, illustrating how our unique "blind spots" must be considered in order to create equitable and inclusive solutions.
This conversation offers practical insights into how organizations like AnitaB.org convene thinkers, technologists, educators, and users to foster responsible AI—and how we, as individuals and communities, can play an active role in reimagining the future of work and life.
Let's dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 – Diversity, communication, and automation
01:41 – Brenda’s journey into technology and the human condition
03:49 – Identifying the gap: Designing technology for everyone
05:27 – Early experiences with technology and user inclusion
09:07 – The rise of AI and responsible technology
13:46 – Technology’s impact on different generations and accessibility
16:46 – Voice recognition, accents, and improvements in transcription
18:47 – The evolution of AI and its integration into daily life
22:06 – The speed of AI adoption and societal adaptation
25:29 – The knowledge gap and the importance of responsible AI
29:06 – What is responsible AI?
30:48 – Real-world examples: Driverless cars and diversity in design
About the Guest
Brenda Darden Wilkerson is President and CEO of AnitaB.org, a global nonprofit working to connect and empower women and allies in technology. A former software engineer turned champion for access and opportunity, Brenda founded the pioneering Computer Science for All initiative in Chicago Public Schools, later influencing national policy and earning a White House Champion of Change award. At AnitaB.org, she leads efforts to expand pathways into tech, from apprenticeships to leadership, while building one of the world’s largest communities of women in tech. Named to the Forbes 50 Over 50 in Impact and honored by SXSW for community service, Brenda is a visionary voice for inclusive innovation and a leading advocate for a more just and human-centered tech future.
Resources:
AnitaB.org
ghc.anitab.org
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How AI Reshuffles Industries: Sangeet Choudary on Embracing Change and Systemic Innovation
2025/11/14
The playing field is constantly changing. So when new technologies come in, you need to reimagine your game because the playing field is changing and the new technology brings in new capabilities that you can use to play better."
- Sangeet Choudary
In this episode, Ana Melikian welcomes Sangeet Paul Choudary—global keynote speaker, best-selling author, and renowned thought leader on platform strategy and digital ecosystems—to the MINDSET ZONE. Together, they delve into the profound ripple effects of Artificial Intelligence as explored in Sangeet’s newest book, Reshuffle: Who Wins When AI Restarts the Knowledge Economy.
Sangeet challenges the popular thinking around AI-induced job losses, arguing that it’s not just about people using AI to become more efficient within existing roles. Instead, he reveals how AI fundamentally transforms workflows, organizations, and even the very nature of industries—requiring leaders to reconsider and reimagine the entire playing field.
Through vivid analogies—like the transformation brought by the shipping container and the QR code—Sangeet illustrates how even “dumb” technologies have restructured global systems, hinting at the extraordinary potential and unpredictability of AI’s impact. Together, they discuss how AI opens opportunities for systemic change, the speed of adoption, and the critical importance of focusing not merely on technology, but on the broader context and workflows it reshapes.
Ana and Sangeet also explore potential blind spots for leaders, highlight the necessity of including the human factor in every strategic decision, and draw lessons from history on how new technologies can both solve and create new kinds of problems and inequalities.
If you’re a business leader, innovator, or anyone eager to understand how to stay agile, spot the opportunities, and avoid the pitfalls in a world rapidly reshaped by AI—this episode is a must-listen. Expand your perspective, strengthen your systems thinking, and unlock the mindset needed to thrive in times of disruption.
Let’s dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 Introduction & The Changing Playing Field
00:18 Host Welcome & Guest Introduction
01:16 The Fallacy of "AI Will Take Your Job"
03:16 How Technology Changes Jobs & Workflows
06:34 Adoption of Technology: QR Codes & AI
09:16 The Cold Start Problem & Social Media Adoption
12:49 Electricity, General Purpose Technologies, and AI
13:57 Helping Leaders See Opportunity in Disruption
15:44 The Shipping Container Analogy & Globalization
18:22 Second-Order Effects & New Inequalities
21:23 Singapore, COVID, and the Human Factor
24:21 The Value of Human Touch in AI Systems
27:00 Leaders' Blind Spots with AI Adoption
29:03 Rethinking Organizations: The Lego Analogy
30:44 Closing & Where to Learn More
About the Guest
Sangeet Choudary is the best-selling co-author of Platform Revolution and the author of the new book Reshuffle. He has advised CEOs at more than 40 Fortune 500 companies as well as pre-IPO tech firms. He is currently a Senior Fellow at the University of California, Berkeley, and has presented at leading global forums, including the G20 Summit, the World50 Summit, and the World Economic Forum.
Connect with:
Sangeet Choudary - LinkedIn
Sangeet Choudary - X (Formerly Twitter)
Sangeet Choudary - Substack
Resources:
Book: Reshuffle: Who wins when AI restacks the knowledge economy by Sangeet Paul Choudary
Website https://platformthinkinglabs.com/
Substack: https://platforms.substack.com/
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Harnessing the PID System: Preparation, Intentionality, and Differentiation in the Age of AI with Rutherford Pascal
2025/11/07
One of the biggest things with leadership is you got to have the right people on the right bus, in the right seat on the bus, and if that happens, you're pulling one rope in the same direction. If that happens, that bus is gonna go fast. That bus is gonna be efficient."
- Rutherford Pascal
In this episode, hosts Ana Melikian and Rutherford Pascal tackle the rapidly evolving landscape of AI disruption, with a particular focus on service-based businesses such as law and accounting firms. Together, they explore how organizations can stay relevant, differentiate themselves, and retain top talent in an era where automation and AI are reshaping the marketplace.
Rutherford shares insights from his own leadership journey—including being promoted eight times in the corporate world—and introduces his PID System: Preparation, Intentionality, and Differentiation. He explains how this framework not only fueled his personal success but can also empower organizations to grow, adapt, and thrive amidst uncertainty.
Ana and Rutherford dig into the crucial theme of value creation—for both customers and team members—and stress how AI should be used as a tool to augment human potential, not replace it. They highlight the importance of leaders truly listening to their people, uncovering individual zones of genius, and ensuring everyone is “in the right seat on the bus” to create synergy and joy at work.
From practical strategies to thought-provoking examples, the conversation offers actionable advice for leaders and professionals looking to leverage both technology and human strengths to thrive in the future of work.
Let's dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
0:00 – Leadership: The Right People on the Right Bus
1:03 – Introduction to the Mindset Zone & Guest
2:05 – AI Disruption and Staying Relevant
6:46 – Adding Value: The Key to Promotion
7:57 – Customer-Centric Mindset (Amazon Example)
10:55 – The PID System: Preparation, Intentionality, Differentiation
19:41 – Retaining the Best People in the Age of AI
20:34 – The Importance of Listening as a Leader
25:25 – Four Levels of Listening for Better Decisions
27:00 – Where to Learn More About Rutherford Pascal
About the Guest
Rutherford J. Pascal is a seasoned Senior Sales Executive with over 30 years of experience in driving sales growth, revitalizing stagnant markets, and building high-performing teams across diverse industries for three fortune 100 companies. As the Founder and CEO of Glass Walls Leadership, Rutherford is dedicated to empowering leaders and ordinary workers to become indispensable at work. This is accomplished through one-on-one coaching, group training, and dynamic keynote presentations. His extensive expertise includes strategic business, market and sales planning, performance enhancement, and team motivation.
Meet Your Host
Ana Melikian, Ph.D.—Expert in amplifying impact without burnout, author of "Mindset Zone: Actualize Your Human Potential." Rutherford Pascal—Leadership consultant, author of the PID System, and advocate for value-driven organizational growth.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
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Living From the Inside Out: Susan Filan on Surviving, Awakening, and Finding Purpose
2025/10/31
Living my life from the outside in makes me a beggar at the feast. Living my life from the inside out makes me a gift and a joy and a presence. I am now able to serve to help to heal in a way that I was never able to before."
- Susan Filan
In this episode, host Ana Melikian welcomes Susan Filan—former trial attorney, legal analyst, and now transformational speaker known as the Wake Up Coach—to the Mindset Zone podcast. Together, they explore the heights of achievement and the hidden costs that can come with relentlessly pursuing career milestones.
Susan shares her remarkable journey, from building a prestigious professional life to surviving a near-fatal accident that forced her to completely re-evaluate what truly matters. She candidly describes her wake-up call, the long and difficult road of physical recovery, and the profound shift toward living life from the inside out rather than the outside in.
Ana and Susan discuss how society’s focus on busyness, external validation, and productivity can cause us to miss the essence of being alive. Through Susan’s powerful story, listeners are invited to reflect deeply on presence, gratitude, and the importance of embracing each moment—before a crisis forces us to pause.
Susan also reveals how her experience has empowered her to help others as a coach, speaker, and retreat leader—guiding people to discover purpose, reconnect with their authentic selves, and wake up to the joy and fulfillment available right now.
Let’s dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 – Introduction
01:02 – Meet Susan Filan
03:16 – The Wake Up Call
07:09 – Recovery and Gratitude
10:29 – Rethinking Priorities
12:10 – Presence and Self-Love
15:04 – Living from the Inside Out
18:06 – Transformation
21:14 – Lessons from Pain
22:00 – Retreats and Travel
24:00 – Connecting with Susan
26:00 – An Invitation to Wake Up
About The Guest
Susan F. Filan, Esq. is Wake-Up Call Speaker and Coach, a former trial lawyer and MSNBC Senior Legal Analyst turned transformational voice in mindset and reinvention. She helps peak performers—from boardrooms to start-ups—break free from burnout, reclaim their lives, and awaken to their true power. With neuroscience, high performance, and spiritual insight, Susan sparks real, lasting change.
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Break Free From the Never Enough Mindset: Redefining Abundance With Leisa Peterson
2025/10/24
When we can make friends with our fear, we open up a huge amount of information that can help us make better choices for ourselves."
- Leisa Peterson
In this episode, Ana Melikian welcomes Leisa Peterson, renowned money mindset expert and author of The Money Catalyst, to explore the hidden dynamics behind financial success and the pervasive “Never Enough” mindset—even among high achievers. Leisa reveals the subtle signs of scarcity thinking and guides listeners on how to shift from fear-based to values-aligned decisions, redefining abundance on their own terms.
Leisa shares why she chose to illustrate financial transformation through the fictional character Maribel, allowing readers to safely examine their own money stories and emotional triggers. Together, Ana and Leisa explore how our relationship with money is deeply intertwined with our bodies, relationships, and leadership styles—and how self-awareness and curiosity can unlock greater choices and joy.
The conversation also tackles the role of fear in uncertain times. Rather than pushing fear away, Leisa encourages making friends with it, uncovering its wisdom, and applying it compassionately—whether with ourselves, colleagues, or loved ones. She offers practical advice for navigating financial discussions in relationships, including the importance of planning, open communication, and respecting both risk-taking and cautious perspectives.
Let’s dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
00:00 Introduction: Making friends with fear for better choices
02:00 Spotting the “Never Enough” mindset in successful people
04:35 Using story to create breakthrough money mindset shifts
07:28 How scarcity and abundance impact bodies, relationships, and leadership
10:30 Shifting from fear-based to values-aligned decisions
12:11 Fear as a strategic guide—getting curious, not judgmental
15:26 Addressing fear in ourselves and others (including children and employees)
18:28 Expanding possibilities amid uncertainty and stress
20:26 Supporting partners and loved ones with different money mindsets
22:32 How writing The Money Catalyst created personal transformation
About the Guest
Leisa Peterson is an internationally recognized money mindset expert, author, and the founder of Wealth Clinic. With over thirty years of experience as a financial planner and transformational coach, Leisa specializes in helping individuals and leaders break free from limiting money beliefs, move beyond scarcity thinking, and step into greater abundance. Her latest book, The Money Catalyst, uses storytelling and journaling to inspire readers toward healthier, values-driven financial decisions. Leisa’s work is grounded in compassion, deep insight, and a dedication to personal and collective transformation.
Connect with:
Leisa Peterson's LinkedIn Profile
Wealth Clinic
The Money Catalyst
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Leadership Lessons from Aviation with Ron Higgs
2025/10/17
If you slow down and figure out what went wrong, it will help you accelerate in the future."
- Ron Higgs
In this episode, host Ana Melikian sits down with Ron Higgs, former naval aviator turned leadership consultant, to uncover the powerful mindsets and tools honed in the cockpit—and how they translate into today’s rapidly shifting business world.
Ron shares his journey from 24 years in the U.S. Navy, where he flew and managed complex aerospace projects, to guiding leaders and teams through uncertainty and change. Together, they delve into the VUCA (Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, and Ambiguous) framework, mapping its military origins directly onto the challenges leaders face in navigating team dynamics, technological disruptions, and rapid market shifts.
Ana and Ron explore the practical power of the Brief-Execute-Debrief cycle used by naval aviators—demonstrating why slowing down for feedback, debriefs, and contingency planning is a high-performance must, not a luxury. They address the critical role of psychological safety, open feedback, and continuous improvement, as well as practical ideas that business leaders can use to foster a culture where learning and trust thrive under pressure.
If you’re an executive, team leader, or technical expert craving practical strategies to align teams, accelerate learning, and lead with clarity amidst chaos, this episode is packed with actionable insights (and aviation stories you won’t want to miss).
Let’s dive in!
This week on The Mindset Zone:
02:02 – From naval aviation to corporate: Ron’s leadership journey
05:59 – What VUCA means—and why it matters for today’s leaders
10:14 – The briefing, execution, and debriefing cycle for business growth
17:33 – Why slowing down accelerates results—and avoids costly mistakes
17:56 – Creating a feedback culture: lessons from the cockpit
19:03 – Building psychological safety and trust in teams
22:44 – Delegation, the co-pilot mindset, and the keys to empowering your team
25:41 – How to strengthen leadership and collaboration at every level
About The Guest
Ron Higgs is a leadership consultant, U.S. Navy veteran, aerospace engineer, and former Fractional COO. With over 20 years of experience in executive operations, Ron brings a unique blend of military precision and business acumen. He helps companies align strategy, execution, and culture—often drawing from his time as a Naval Aviator flying complex missions in high-stakes environments. Ron is also a speaker and the author of the LinkedIn series Leadership Lessons from Aviation.
Connect with:
Ron Higgs LinkedIn Profile
Wolf Management Solutions, LLC
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AI Won’t Save Us—But Our Human Potential Might
2025/05/09
We can surf this hundred-foot AI wave if we take this as a team sport.”
- Ana Melikian, Ph.D.
In this episode, Ana Melikian dives deep into the human side of the AI revolution, asking an essential question: Is our true superpower found not in machines, but in our own human potential? Ana explores the third crucial mindset shift needed to navigate the world of AI disruption, emphasizing that while artificial intelligence continues to surge forward, it’s our capacity for creativity, proactivity, and connection that will truly shape a better future.
Using vivid metaphors—like Portugal’s legendary hundred-foot waves—Ana describes how humanity is facing a tidal wave of AI change. She walks listeners through vital mindset shifts: moving beyond a simple “humans versus technology” mentality to one of “humans and technology,” and shifting from a relentless quest for productivity to a commitment to doing better by leveraging technology for collective good.
Ana offers a hands-on exercise to illustrate the powerful shift from being reactive to being creative and proactive, urging listeners to pause, choose their responses, and tap into their deepest human qualities. She highlights that human potential is realized not just individually, but through teamwork, supportive systems, and cultural transformation.
This episode is both a rallying call and a practical guide: Ana encourages us to embrace our unique human edge, cultivate resilience, emotional intelligence, and collaboration, and create a future where AI enhances—rather than diminishes—our well-being.
Let’s dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE podcast:
00:00 Introduction: The Human Side of AI
01:28 The Metaphor of Big Waves
02:10 First Mindset Shift: Humans and Technology
03:19 Second Mindset Shift: Doing Better, Not Just More
03:55 Third Mindset Shift: From Reactive to Creative
06:29 The Power of Pause and Historical Perspective
08:05 Adapting Our Modus Operandi
10:12 Harnessing Human Potential and Teamwork
13:42 Creating a Sustainable Future Together
17:03 Conclusion: Expanding What's Possible
Meet Your Host:
Ana Melikian, Ph.D., advises leaders on how to amplify impact while avoiding burnout. She is passionate about teaching others how to unlock their human potential using simple and powerful approaches such as her P.I.E. method.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
Resources:
Between stimulus and response, there is this space.
Ana's AI Resources
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From Exhaustion to Engagement: A Mindset Shift for the Age of AI
2025/04/25
It is essential to know where we want to go. Otherwise, we will end up very fast, very far away in a place we don't want to be."
- Ana Melikian
In this episode, Ana Melikian delves into the second crucial mindset shift needed to harness the power of Artificial Intelligence (AI) for positive and sustainable change. Ana challenges the common "do more with less" philosophy that dominates the business world, highlighting its risks for driving burnout and disengagement. Instead, she presents a compelling framework—the burnout-engage matrix—mapped across energy and connection, to help us assess where we stand and how to move towards energized, purposeful engagement in our work.
Ana invites us to reflect on the real impact of AI: Are we simply trying to squeeze more productivity out of ourselves and our teams, or are we intentionally using new technologies to create a better future? Through practical examples and her signature four-quadrant matrix, Ana explains how we can avoid the burnout trap and instead leverage AI to amplify our positive impact while safeguarding our well-being.
She underscores that navigating the 'hundred-foot AI wave' is not a solo endeavor, but a team sport—requiring diverse voices and shared commitments from technologists, HR professionals, leaders, and frontline workers alike. By adopting a new mindset and working together, we can build a workplace culture that sustains both high performance and human connection.
Let’s dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE podcast:
00:00 Experiment: Why am I so tired?
01:13 Introducing the second AI mindset shift
02:25 The "do more with less" trap in AI adoption
03:40 Productivity gains: What do we do with saved time?
04:56 Burnout prevention and the "Why am I" experiment
06:13 The four-quadrant burnout-engage matrix explained
08:31 Mapping energy and connection
09:47 Understanding the burnout
12:59 Moving teams to the engaged zone
14:20 Surfing the AI wave as a team sport
15:13 Leveraging AI together for a better future
16:36 Next episode teaser and closing thoughts
Meet Your Host:
Ana Melikian, Ph.D., advises leaders on how to amplify impact while avoiding burnout. She is passionate about teaching others how to unlock their human potential using simple and powerful approaches such as her P.I.E. method.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
Resources:
Book: Co-Intelligence: Living and Working with AI by Ethan Mollick
Ana's AI Resources
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Why “Us vs. Them” Doesn’t Work in the Age of AI
2025/04/18
Humans, walking and taking bags of water and trace chemicals that we are, have managed to convince well-organized sand to pretend to think like us.”
- Ethan Mollick
In this episode, Ana Melikian challenges the common "us vs. them" mindset when it comes to technology, especially in the age of Artificial Intelligence. Ana takes listeners on a journey through humanity's long history with technology, highlighting how our survival and progress have always been intertwined with new tools—from controlling fire to inventing computers and now, navigating the waves of AI.
Ana shares why seeing humanity and technology as allies, rather than adversaries, is essential. She encourages listeners to drop the outdated "humans vs. machines" narrative and instead adopt an experimentation mindset, inviting AI to the table as a collaborator. Drawing wisdom from Ethan Mollick's "Co-Intelligence," Ana presents a practical framework for thriving in this era: always invite AI to the table, be the human in the loop, treat AI like a person (but guide it with intention), and remember that today’s AI will soon be considered primitive.
Throughout the episode, Ana offers insightful historical context and practical advice for increasing your "AI literacy" without getting overwhelmed or burned out. She emphasizes that we don't need to face the AI revolution alone—working as a team is key to using these powerful tools to shape a better future.
Let’s dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE podcast:
00:00 Introduction and Expanding Our View of Technology
01:31 The Essential Mindset Shift: Humanity and Technology as Allies
03:33 Technology's Deep Roots in Human History
07:58 The Emergence of AI in Our Everyday Lives
10:09 Shift from “Us vs. Them” to “Teamwork with Technology”
12:17 Learning AI as a Strategic Advantage
13:41 Combating Overwhelm: Teamwork and Shared Learning
15:27 Ethan Mollick’s Framework for Co-Intelligence
18:49 Practical Prompts: How to Effectively Engage with AI
22:30 Embracing Growth: The Future of AI Evolution
23:33 Reflections, Invitations, and Looking Ahead
25:02 Resources, Book Info, and Gratitude
Meet Your Host:
Ana Melikian, Ph.D., advises leaders on how to amplify impact while avoiding burnout. She is passionate about teaching others how to unlock their human potential using simple and powerful approaches such as her P.I.E. method.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
Resources:
Book: Co-Intelligence: Living and Working with AI by Ethan Mollick
Ana's AI Resources
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100-Foot AI Wave: Lessons from Portugal’s Big Wave Surfing
2025/04/11
If you are in the business world, in the present moment, you are facing the hundred foot wave of the AI disruption."
- Ana Melikian, Ph.D.
In this episode, Ana Melikian dives into the tumultuous yet opportunity-rich world of Artificial Intelligence (AI) and its implications for the business landscape. Using the metaphor of a "hundred-foot wave," Ana vividly illustrates the dual nature of the AI revolution—both its disruptive potential and its ability to create new possibilities.
Ana shares her insights on how some business leaders are choosing to either ignore or obsessively control this technological tidal wave. However, she advocates for an alternative approach, likening it to "surfing the wave," where teamwork and collaboration become essential to harnessing AI's energy for a better future.
Ana emphasizes the importance of mindset shifts in dealing with AI, urging listeners to embrace the present moment and leverage the collective strengths of their teams. She sees surfing the AI wave not as a solo endeavor, but as a collaborative pursuit, where innovation and intentionality are key.
Join Ana as she explores how to navigate this AI disruption, transforming potential threats into opportunities for impact. Whether you're a business owner or professional, Ana encourages you to expand your mindset and engage in this crucial conversation about our technological future.
Let's dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE podcast:
00:00 Introduction to the AI Disruption
00:59 Facing the 100-Foot AI Wave
03:57 The Two Extremes: Ignoring vs. Overwhelming
06:57 Surfing the 100-Foot AI Wave
09:35 The Importance of Teamwork
11:58 Mindset Shifts for the Future
13:05 Conclusion and Call to Action
Meet Your Host:
Ana Melikian, Ph.D., advises leaders on how to amplify impact while avoiding burnout. She is passionate about teaching others how to unlock their human potential using simple and powerful approaches such as her P.I.E. method.
𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐭?
Set a time to speak with Ana HERE and learn about your (or your team's) burnout risk and how to enhance well-being, effectiveness, and teamwork!
Resources:
100-Foot Wave TV Series
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Retreats: Deepening Our Humanity in a Digital Age | With Sheri Rosenthal
2025/04/04
Experiential retreats are powerful; they create something deeply transformational."
– Sheri Rosenthal
In this episode, host Ana Melikian opens the floor to Sheri Rosenthal, a retreat strategist and founder known for orchestrating transformative experiences. Sheri shares the heartfelt impact that her first retreat experience had on her life, marking a turning point more profound than any personal therapy or career move she had experienced before. Ana and Sheri delve into how stepping away from one's usual environment into a retreat can spark powerful personal transformation by fostering a non-judgmental, experiential learning space.
Sheri discusses how her journey from a successful medical career to creating transformational retreats underscores the power of travel and experiential learning. She highlights that whether it's through reading influential books or attending spiritual retreats, the journey toward personal growth and self-awareness is significantly deepened by immersive experiences.
As they explore the trend of experiential and transformational travel, Sheri emphasizes the importance of crafting retreats that resonate meaningfully with participants, matching content to location and offering kinesthetic, unique experiences that are hard to achieve otherwise. They also highlight the importance of incorporating in-person retreats in a digital age.
Join us as Ana and Sheri discuss the lasting impact of retreat experiences and offer insights into designing your own transformative journeys.
Let's dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE:
00:00 Life-Changing Retreat Experience
00:20 Introduction to the Mindset Zone
00:58 Meet Sherry Rosenthal: Retreat Strategist
01:56 Sherry's Bold Career Shift
05:44 The Transformative Power of Retreats
08:06 The Magic of In-Person Retreats
14:41 Crafting Experiential Retreats
20:49 The Growing Trend of Wellness Travel
22:48 Resources for Planning Your Own Retreat
24:57 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
About The Guest
Sheri Rosenthal is the founder and chief retreat strategist at Wanderlust Entrepreneur®, where she helps heart-centered entrepreneurs create transformational, profitable retreats.
With over two decades of experience in the retreat industry, she's had the honor of working with top names, including don Miguel Ruiz, author of "The Four Agreements." With a community of over 65,000 passion-fueled entrepreneurs, she empowers them to design, price, promote, and monetize transformational retreats that leave a lasting impact, while traveling the world and earning a profit to be proud of.
Sheri is also the CEO of Journeys of the Spirit Travel, a boutique agency that has planned and managed over 1000 retreats worldwide since 2003.
Special Resource:
Ultimate Retreat Countdown Checklist & Jumpstart Guide
Connect with:
Linkedin.com/in/sherirosenthal
WanderlustEntrepreneur.com
JourneysOfTheSpirit.com
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Why Good People Become Bad Bosses with Jamie Woolf
2025/03/28
We all fall prey to power blindness."
- Jamie Woolf
In this episode, Ana Melikian sits down with Jamie Woolf, the first Director of Culture at Pixar Animation Studios, to delve into why good people often become bad bosses. Drawing from her TED Talk and rich experience with companies like Pixar and Google, Jamie explains the concept of "power blindness" that plagues many leaders once they rise to authority.
Throughout their conversation, Ana and Jamie discuss how this loss of perspective can stifle creativity and innovation within organizations. They explore the essential need for leaders to maintain self-awareness, practice honest reflection, and foster environments where open dialogue and dissent are encouraged. Jamie shares insights from her own journey, shedding light on the importance of diverse perspectives in cultivating true innovation.
The episode also touches on the role of artificial intelligence and its impact on leadership and creativity, with Jamie emphasizing the unique human skills of analytical thinking and emotional intelligence that AI cannot replicate. She stresses the importance of blending technology with the heart—just as she witnessed during her time at Pixar—to create magic in leadership and organizational culture.
Let’s dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE:
00:00 Understanding Power Blindness
00:29 Introduction to the Mindset Zone
01:07 Meet Jamie Wolfe: Innovation Expert
02:10 The Impact of Bad Bosses on Creativity
04:45 Personal Experiences with Leadership
07:11 Red Flags and Self-Reflection for Leaders
09:54 The Importance of Diverse Perspectives
20:47 AI's Role in Leadership and Creativity
24:11 Conclusion and Resources
About The Guest
Jamie Woolf, CEO of Creativity Partners, is a renowned innovation cultivator, speaker, and founder of Creativity Partners. She was the first Director of Culture at Pixar Animation Studios where she was recruited to be a force for “constructive disruption.”
With 30+ years of experience practicing organizational psychology and certifications in executive coaching, Jamie has inspired thousands worldwide to embrace innovation as a catalyst for personal and organizational transformation.
Drawing on her impactful work with organizations like Google, Dreamworks, Gilead, University of California, and Pixar Animation, Jamie brings a contagious passion for empowering others to lead with creativity and innovation.
When not working, eating or sleeping, Jamie can be found on a tennis court or hiking trail. She lives in the Bay Area with her partner, Dave, and she's proud of her two grown kids, Anna and Leah.
Jamie Woolf quote
Connect with:
Jamie Woolf on LinkedIn
Creativity-partners.com
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Voice, Identity, and Influence: Insights with Dr. Leslie Gordon
2025/03/21
Your accent is the sound map of your life."
- Dr. Leslie Gordon
In this episode, Ana Melikian sits down with Dr. Leslie Gordon to delve into the nuances of finding your authentic voice. They explore how authenticity in communication goes beyond just words and articulation, emphasizing a holistic integration of mind, body, and speech.
Leslie shares her unique insights from linguistics and voice coaching, explaining that our true voice is revealed when our mind, body, and speech are in alignment. Authenticity, she notes, is not about achieving perfection but about being genuine and fully present in each moment of communication.
The conversation shifts from discussing the mental intention behind speech to the vital role of physical presence and energy in conveying our messages. Leslie introduces the concept of "energy made audible" and explains how our physical posture and presence can significantly affect the effectiveness of our communication.
Ana and Leslie also touch on the significance of regional and personal accents, highlighting them as integral parts of our identity. They discuss the delicate balance between adapting our accents for effective communication and staying true to our authentic selves.
This episode is packed with practical insights on elevating our communication skills by aligning our intentions, physical presence, and speech patterns. Leslie's expertise offers listeners valuable guidance on embracing their unique voice and using it to connect more deeply with others.
Let's dive in!
This week on the MINDSET ZONE:
00:00 Introduction and Purpose of Communication
00:17 Welcome to the Mindset Zone
00:55 Exploring Authentic Voice with Dr. Leslie Gordon
01:40 Understanding the Authentic Voice
03:01 The Role of Mind in Communication
08:04 The Importance of Body in Communication
11:15 The Impact of Presence on Communication (Patsy Rodenburg's work)
18:02 Speech Patterns and Accents
27:04 Personal Stories and Accent Adaptation
30:14 Conclusion and Resources
About The Guest
Dr. Leslie Gordon is a passionate advocate for authenticity, emphasizing the harmony between mind, body, and speech as the foundation for genuine communication. She believes that true presence and effective messaging arise when these three facets align, allowing individuals to express their authentic selves. Leslie champions the idea that authenticity is not synonymous with perfection; instead, it embodies genuine self-expression. In a world increasingly valuing sincerity, Leslie's insights highlight the importance of understanding and conveying one's true essence.
Connect with:
Linkedin.com/in/leslie-gordon-phd/
lesliegordonspeech.com/
Instagram.com/leslie.gordon.speech
Resources:
Book: Presence: How to Use Positive Energy for Success in Every Situation by Patsy Rodenburg
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Barbara Hemphill 2025/02/06
Wisdom, Compassion, Strategy!
Those three words describe the gifts you will receive from Ana’s amazing interviews! She always brings a new perspective to old ideas from her guests ...
Jason Raitz 2025/02/02
Absolutely Incredible Podcast
Thank you for producing such an amazing resource! This podcast has been so incredibly helpful and I look forward to each episode.
YogaWick 2024/05/28
I always look forward to my weekly dose of Mindset goodies with Ana!
The Mindset Zone podcast is one of the few podcasts I subscribe to AND listen to regularly. In fact, I find the content in the the Mindset Zone podca...
1loaf 2024/03/04
Great host with great questions
I always leave each episode learning something new and with a fresh perspective on the topic. Five stars!
Profit First 2023/09/16
The power of Asking!
Super pumped listening to Ana's interview with Larry Kasanoff, the producer behind hits like Platoon and Terminator 2. I'm practicing the power of ask...
carey-bear 2023/08/11
Not to be missed Podcast
Amazing podcast. I learn something new every time I listen; many of the episodes are worth listening to again and again. Love the Mindset Zone!
The Technophobic Geek 2023/01/10
Concise, powerful episodes
This podcast is very well-thought out. Ana brings her background in psychology and combines it with her business acumen to cover topics that are both ...
Michael Whitehouse 2022/09/05
Great Podcast
Ana has a great way of looking at things, and a powerful perspective.
Linda Ugelow 2022/07/29
Powerful interviews that make you think
I love this podcast. Every episode I’ve heard has made me think in new ways.
Food4Bones 2022/05/12
Episode #8
A thoughtful moment of considering the space between the action and the reaction; the place where growth occurs. As I put this exercise into practice,...
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