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The PMC 2025Explicit
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Date created
2015/04/13
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2026/10/08
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42 min.
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David Faulkner is back partnering with Harrison Vaughan from Tommy’s Property Management and Will Alexander from Bayleys in the new Property Management show where they discuss all things relevant to Property Management in New Zealand. We do not discuss rent roll growth or compliance, we discuss the relevant topics that affect our industry
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Changing of the Guard: Jason Colbey Joins Sam Arnold as PMC MC
2026/10/08
David Faulkner is in Wellington with Harrison Vaughan at Tommy’s, and joined from Melbourne by Jason Colbey, head of community at Tapi, for an announcement. After six conferences on the bounce, David is handing over the microphone. Jason will co-MC the PMC with Samantha Arnold on 29 and 30 October at the Pullman.
Jason has MCed BDM summits, PMP awards and industry conferences across Australia, plus charity work with the Starlight Foundation. He also lasted two years and nine months in property management himself, after telling a manager that only a pathetic person would quit inside three years, and he has never forgotten it. That experience is behind the message he wants to bring to Auckland: property managers are the most important people in this industry, and he will die on that hill.
The conversation gets pointed on value. Why management fees in Victoria sit at five to seven percent while Tasmania runs at eleven to seventeen, what that does to a rent roll multiplier, and why cutting fees to chase doors leaves everybody poorer. Why property management is still treated as a stepping stone to sales rather than a career. And what Jason thinks New Zealand does better than Australia, which comes down to competing brands actually talking to each other.
Also: the Wellington market lifting after a dead winter, what the election is doing to owner decisions, Labour’s flip on interest deductibility, and the PMC Awards judges revealed, eventually.
Pressure Doesn't Break You, It Reveals You: Rico Gomez on Burnout
2026/10/02
David Faulkner is joined by Rico Gomez of Neurofit, a Christchurch based neuroscience coach who works with elite athletes and business owners, and who keynotes day two of the PMC.
Rico came to this work the hard way. He and his wife went through serious mental health struggles about eleven years ago, and after nothing else worked he went looking for answers in cognitive neuroscience himself. What he found changed both their lives, and it became the basis of the rewire process he now runs with clients.
His core argument will challenge how most of us think about burnout. The answer is not to remove pressure. Pressure is the hand squeezing the toothpaste tube, and what comes out of you under pressure was already inside you. What determines whether someone lasts forty years or five is not the performance itself but where their head is three days afterwards.
For property managers caught between landlords and tenants, and for the managers leading them, there is plenty here that lands straight away. Why your hard conversation should never be your first conversation, and what relational equity means in practice. The trust box and the performance box, and what happens when a leader lives in only one of them. Why scrolling and outsourcing your thinking to AI is quietly making you less resilient. And a story about imposter syndrome that turned into the most important yes of Rico's career.
The $113,000 Question: Sarina Gibbon on Unlawful Premises and Rent Refunds
2026/09/24
David Faulkner is joined by Sarina Gibbon of Tenancy Advisory, alongside Samantha Arnold and Property Brokers' Sarah Green, to flag a case the whole industry needs to watch.
Earlier this month the High Court gave a tenant leave to take a question of law to the Court of Appeal: just how far does a Section 78A rent refund for unlawful premises actually go? Sarina walks through how we got here, from the 2013 Anderson decision that pushed unlawful premises outside the RTA, to prohibited transactions under Section 137, to Winton v Pabu and the "footling breach" line, and why the binding authority everyone has relied on since 2018 may not apply to Section 78A at all. In this case the tenant is seeking $113,000.
The heart of it: if the Court of Appeal decides the benefit of accommodation is no longer a good enough reason to discount a refund, tenants will start ringing councils to check consents, and plenty of agencies will not know what is sitting on their rent roll. Sarina's argument is that this is an opportunity rather than a threat, and she gives three moves to make this week.
Also: where liability actually lands between the agency and the owner, whether your indemnity clause would hold up, what happens to fees already collected, the granny flat rules and why consent free does not mean compliant, and the question of why the only intervener in this case is a tenant advocacy group.
Sarina and Sarah are speaking back to back at the PMC on 29 and 30 October, with the Renti soiree the night before.
Election Special: Matt Ball on Land Tax, Capital Gains and Interest Denial
2026/09/17
David Faulkner and Harrison Vaughan are joined from Singapore by Matt Ball of the New Zealand Property Investors Federation for an election special, recorded ahead of the 7 November vote and the PMC at the Pullman on 29 and 30 October.
Matt has stood for both the Greens and ACT, worked in Parliament and spent three decades around politics, so he takes the panel through what each party is actually proposing and what it would do to rental property.
The Opportunity Party's land tax at 1.75 percent, why it hits your whole land value rather than your equity, and the universal basic income that comes with it. Labour's 28 percent capital gains tax from July 2027, and the missing piece that makes it worse than Australia's: no indexing for inflation. Why Matt thinks interest denial is the real danger, what a 50 percent version does to your weekly numbers, and the grandfathering and portfolio size options that could soften it. Plus the death spiral that leads from bad tax policy to rent controls, National's 5 percent deposit scheme with its new $300,000 income threshold, and a prediction on who forms the next government.
Also: the NZPIF conference in Tauranga, with a political panel moderated by Heather du Plessis Allen and a workshop featuring Tenancy Tribunal principal adjudicator Brett Carter.
"People Are Good and Bad Things Happen": Sasha Lockley on Empathy Mapping and Arrears
2026/09/10
David Faulkner is joined by Sasha Lockley of Money Sweet Spot, a former KPMG forensic accountant who now runs a lender built to get people out of debt rather than keep them in it. She's speaking at the PMC in October.
Sasha explains the moment on the Harbour Bridge that changed her career, and the principle behind everything she's built since: people are good and bad things happen. The finance system, she argues, is designed as though life is predictable, then punishes people with fees and default interest when it isn't.
The conversation gets practical for property managers. Why a text and a 14 day notice tells you nothing about the why. What empathy mapping actually is, and how listening properly makes tenants call you before they miss the rent, not after. How to spot who is spinning you a line sooner. Finding the halfway house between a tenant who needs six weeks and a landlord who says they've got none. And Sasha's challenge to anyone proud of low arrears: at what cost to the human?
The Future of Property Inspections: AI, 360° Tech & What Comes Next with Jeremiah Antipas
2026/09/03
AI is changing property management fast — but what does that actually mean for property inspections?
In this episode of The Alternative Property Management Show, David Faulkner and Harrison Vaughan are joined by Jeremiah Antipas from Inspection Express to talk about the rapid evolution of property inspection technology and where the industry could be heading next.
Jeremiah shares the Inspection Express story, from its beginnings in 2013 through to more than 5,000 agencies using the platform across Australia, New Zealand and the United States.
The conversation explores 360° inspections, AI-generated condition reports, automated entry and exit comparisons, future integrations with maintenance platforms, asset registers and the possibility of technology eventually detecting everything from moisture and mould to smoke alarm condition.
They also tackle a bigger question: as AI takes over more of the administrative work, could property managers become too reliant on technology — and how does the industry continue demonstrating its value to landlords?
Plus, the team discusses tenant-led inspections, the debate between all-in-one software and specialist PropTech platforms, Inspection Express' global expansion and what property management could look like over the next decade.
Jeremiah will also be joining the PropTech panel at the PMC on 29–30 October.
"In Writing or It Didn't Happen" Sara Green on AI Complaints, Privacy Requests and PM Safety
2026/08/28
David Faulkner and Harrison Vaughan are joined by Sara Green, National Operations Manager at Property Brokers and a speaker at this year's PMC, for a frank look at what's landing on the complaints desk in 2026.
Sara's rule hasn't changed in sixteen and a half years: if it's not in writing, it didn't happen. She explains why a date stamped note in Palace beats anyone's memory, what she asks for the moment a file reaches her, and how to handle the sting of a complaint laid against you.
The conversation turns to AI. Complaint volumes have skyrocketed, full of walls of text from people who haven't read what they sent and won't take a phone call. Sarah makes the case for AI as a tool you can only use safely if you already know your subject.
"I Want to Be a Leader, Not a Manager" — Britney Ross on Leading at 25
2026/08/20
David Faulkner heads to the Southern Lakes to meet Britney Ross, Bailey's Wanaka team leader and one of the youngest voices on the PMC 2026 intergenerational panel. At 25 and one year into her first leadership role, Brittany unpacks the difference between managing and leading, why she cut her portfolio in half to properly back her team, and what she wants the industry's more experienced operators to hear: get comfortable with change.
She also lifts the lid on property management in a resort town — winter rentals that vanish come summer, high-end homes with high-end expectations, and the constant battle to get a tradie to turn up. Samantha Arnold (Wolfbrook) joins mid-show for a frank take on the new Renters United report, how her team locked AI down inside their own four walls, and why property managers still need to know their stuff — because, as Brittany puts it, she's caught AI getting notice periods wrong more than once.
Brought to you by PMC 2026 (29–30 October — awards now open) and Renti
AI Applications at the Tenancy Tribunal – With Special Guest Sarina Gibbon
2026/08/06
David flies solo this week — no Sam Arnold (off skiing near Dunedin) and no Harrison Vaughan (presumably napping) — but he's joined by Sarina Gibbon of Tenancy Advisory Limited to unpack the Principal Tenancy Adjudicator's new practice note on the use of AI in Tenancy Tribunal applications.
Serina breaks down what a practice note actually is, why AI-generated applications can be a tell-tale sign of a weak or under-resourced case, and how property managers can use that to their advantage. They discuss the real possibility of cost awards against meritless, AI-driven claims, why RTA knowledge and good storytelling still win the day, and how the Tribunal's guidance lines up with the Courts of New Zealand's own AI guidelines for lawyers, judges, and self-represented parties.
The conversation also covers the new three-month pilot scheme fast-tracking rent arrears and urgent health-and-safety cases, and David and Serina share some frank views on Renters United's recent comments about the Tribunal. Plus, updates on the PMC Awards (opening 10 August) and PMC conference tickets.
Building Aspire: Growth, AI, and People-First Property Management with Sam Hewetson
2026/07/30
What does it take to scale a property management business while keeping its culture intact? In this episode, we sit down with Sam Hewetson, Business Development Manager at Aspire Property Management, ahead of PMC 2026. Sam's own path from leasing agent, to property manager, to now leading a team of sales experts as BDM mirrors the growth story he shares: how Aspire has expanded into an operation with its own in-house maintenance arm, why attracting and developing young talent matters for the industry's future, and how leadership, autonomy, and genuine support shape Aspire's culture. We also dig into where AI and technology are taking property management, what it takes to expand into new locations, and Sam's own discipline as a marathon runner and what that teaches him about business.
Tribunals, curtains, and conference season!
2026/07/23
Join David, Samantha, and Harrison as they dive into the latest developments in the property management industry.
In this episode, the team unpacks recent tribunal decisions and the practical lessons they offer for property managers before taking a closer look at the proposed changes to the Healthy Homes Standards. With the spotlight firmly on curtains, they discuss what the proposed updates could mean for landlords, property managers, and tenants if they go ahead.
They also preview the upcoming PMC Conference, sharing highlights from this year's speaker lineup and what attendees can look forward to at one of the industry's premier events.
Whether you're a property manager, landlord, or industry professional, this episode delivers practical insights, expert commentary, and the latest industry updates to help you stay informed and prepared for what's ahead.
What It Really Takes to Build (and Sell) a Property Management Business
2026/07/16
David and Samantha are joined by Niall Heeran — former owner of Wellington property management company Copo (previously Rent Wellington) — who sold his rent roll almost a year ago and has since moved into rent roll brokerage with ABC Business Sales. Niall shares how an accidental start in property management grew into a 260-property business, why he rebranded away from his own name, and the real lesson behind building a company that can survive without you. They dig into letting go of control, hiring for likability over experience, what actually makes a rent roll sellable, and where AI fits into property valuations. Plus, a preview of what Niall will bring to the stage at this year's PMC (29–30 October).
43 Managements in Her 1st Month: Sandy Dodson on Building High-Performance Teams & Art of the Hunt
2026/07/01
What does it take to sign 43 managements in your very first month in the industry — during a lockdown — from your living room?
In this episode of The Alternative Property Management Show, David and Harrison are joined by co-host Samantha Arnold and the unstoppable Sandy Dodson, Head of BDM at Wolfbrook Property Management and upcoming PMC speaker. Sandy brings decades of sales experience across hospitality, promotional marketing, and media — and she's applied every bit of it to property management with extraordinary results.
From averaging 28–30 new managements a month for five years straight, to now leading a national BDM team of 10 across New Zealand (and now Melbourne), Sandy's insights into what it takes to truly hunt for business — not just take orders — are unlike anything you'll hear elsewhere.
In this episode, we cover:
Sandy's colourful career journey — from restaurants and Olympic merchandise campaigns to becoming one of the industry's most decorated BDMsWhy 43 managements in month one during COVID lockdown came down to one simple thing: picking up the phoneThe difference between order takers and true hunters — and how to build a team of the latterWhy you can't coach hunger, mongrel, or spice — and what to look for instead when hiring BDMsHow Sandy's weekly scorecard and activity-based KPIs keep her national team accountable without micromanagingThe power of Sunday afternoon CRM discipline — and why 10 management agreements showed up in her inbox on a Monday morningHow she's transitioning experienced property managers into BDM roles — and why it's working brilliantlyThe role-play AI tool Sandy's exploring to train her team to have better conversations at scaleWhy Renty gives BDMs full transparency over rental activity — and how Sandy uses it to stay ahead of conversations with ownersOh, and there's also a very good recipe for a frozen pineapple margarita. You're welcome.
🎙️ Catch Sandy live at the PMC — 29 & 30 October at the Pullman Auckland. You won't want to miss her on stage.
The Alternative Property Management Show is proudly brought to you by Renti & The PMC.
Andy Reid: Redefining Value, Becoming a Student of Yourself, & the Conversation We Don't Have Enough
2026/06/18
What does "value" actually mean to your customer — and why can almost no one in the industry articulate it?
In this episode of The Alternative Property Management Show, David and Harrison sit down with Andy Reid — 2026 PMC speaker, coach, and author — for a wide-ranging and deeply honest conversation. Andy shares his philosophy on reverse-engineering human behaviour to better understand what value really means from the customer's perspective, and why businesses need to build their processes around people, not the other way around.
The conversation then moves into much deeper territory, as Andy opens up candidly about his own 11-year journey with depression and anxiety, and his experience of reaching a breaking point — twice. It's a raw, generous, and ultimately hopeful conversation about what it means to truly become a student of yourself, why prevention matters more than cure, and why no one should have to face these moments alone.
In this episode, we cover:
Why most professionals can't define "value" from their customer's point of view — and what to do about itReverse-engineering human behaviour to build better business processesAndy's personal story of depression, anxiety, and reaching the edge — twiceThe importance of becoming a "student of yourself" in order to truly heal and evolveWhy mental health support can't be one-size-fits-allFree, anonymous resources available to real estate professionals through the Real Care appA note before you press play: this episode includes an honest discussion of mental health, depression, and suicide, including Andy's own lived experience. Please take care while listening, and reach out for support if you need it — in New Zealand, you can call or text 1737 anytime, or call Lifeline on 0800 543 354.
🎙️ Catch Andy Reid live at the PMC 2026.
The Alternative Property Management Show is proudly brought to you by Renti & The PMC.
From Corporate to Co-Founder: Ashleigh Clutterbuck's Journey to The Hancock Group
2026/06/11
What does it take to walk away from a 10-year corporate career, leap into business ownership, and build something truly your own?
In this heartfelt and inspiring episode of The Alternative Property Management Show, David and Harrison are joined by Ashleigh Clutterbuck — BDM, co-founder of THG Property Management (part of The Hancock Group), PMC keynote speaker, and one of the most authentic voices in the New Zealand property management industry.
Ashleigh opens up about her journey — from her early days at Ray White Christchurch, to navigating the personal loss of her mum, to finding the courage to back herself and go into business with Hancock Group co-founder Mehdi Keegan. Just 16 months in, the results are already speaking for themselves.
In this episode, we cover:
How Ashleigh built her personal brand so powerfully that leads come to her — without cold callingWhy she left a 10-year career at Ray White and what gave her the courage to take the leapThe realities of starting a boutique property management business from scratchWhy Christchurch and the Selwyn district are some of the most exciting investment markets in New Zealand right nowSmart investor advice — why point of difference in a property matters more than everWhat to expect from Ashleigh's keynote at the PMC — 11 lessons from 11 years in the industryHow AI tools like Claude are starting to make their way into property management workflowsThe power of personal brand, authenticity, and showing up consistently for your clients
Ashleigh's story is one of resilience, self-belief, and genuine passion for people — and it shows in everything she does.
"The hardest things in life are often the best things that happen to us." — Ashleigh Clutterbuck
🎙️ Catch Ashleigh live at the PMC — 29 & 30 October at the Pullman Auckland. Don't miss her keynote.
The Alternative Property Management Show is proudly brought to you by Renti & The PMC.
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