The Natural State with Dr. Anthony Gustin

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Dr. Anthony Gustin (founder and CEO of Perfect Keto) believes the natural state of an organism is health. In this podcast he explores how we can reclaim our health. The Natural State features interviews with health and nutrition influencers, world-class thought leaders, and industry experts. With exclusive content that breaks down complex ideas to make them simple and digestible. We cover topics like nutrition, fitness and movement, regenerative agriculture, health, mental and emotional health -- anything that a functioning human being needs to thrive.

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149: Dr. Saifedean Ammous - Cryptocurrency, The History of Money, Addressing Bitcoin’s Energy Usage, and More
In this episode, Dr. Saifedean Ammous and Dr. Anthony Gustin discuss the history of money, using gold and other metals as currency, cryptocurrency, hyperinflation, dispelling a big criticism of Bitcoin, what the future holds, and more.   Dr. Ammous, a carnivore for several years, also ties the conversation back to health so it’s not completely missing from this episode that’s not as health-focused as the podcast usually is.   If you don’t know Dr. Saifedean Ammous’ work, he’s authored two books, The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking and The Fiat Solution.   He also holds a PhD in Sustainable Development from Columbia University, an MSc in Development Management from the London School of Economics, and a Bachelor of Engineering degree from the American University of Beirut.   When you tune into this episode, you’ll hear about these topics: How crypto currency gives people hope Principles from Saifedean’s book, The Bitcoin Standard A brief history of money and how we got to this point What we’ve learned from using gold and other metals as currency Easy versus hard money examples What was the incentive to come up with separate currencies? What are the long-term implications of all this? What hyperinflation can lead to What makes Bitcoin different from gold or the US dollar? How is crypto currency possible now and why wasn’t it around sooner? What about the biggest criticism of Bitcoin -- that it uses incredible amounts of energy?   Resources mentioned in this episode: Dr. Saifedean Ammous’ website Dr. Ammous’ Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel Dr. Ammous’ books, The Bitcoin Standard and The Fiat Standard Dr. Ammous’ online courses
148: Chris Masterjohn - Covid Research, Important Micronutrients, Soil Quality, Eating Locally and Seasonally, and More
Chris Masterjohn comes back on the podcast to share his abundant research on using a real-food approach to Covid, the truth about micronutrients, how infant formula was designed and how this impacts us today, how our soil may be void of crucial nutrients and what you can do about it, and more.   Chris also chats about his personal experience getting Covid twice, his thoughts on Bitcoin and other alt-coins, why eating locally and seasonally is not always the best advice, and more about his upcoming book.     Chris Masterjohn earned his PhD in Nutritional Sciences from the University of Connecticut and he served as a postdoctoral research associate in the Comparative Biosciences department of the College of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.   He also served as the Assistant Professor of Health and Nutrition Sciences at Brooklyn College and he currently creates research-backed information products that help people improve their health using food, movement, and mindfulness to support health and well being.   In this episode, you’ll hear about: Why Chris gravitated towards Bitcoin and whether he’s into any other alt-coins How Chris’ work has changed since the pandemic Chris’ Covid Guide and some of the key highlights he discovered What you should pay attention to to prevent and treat Covid Chris’ experience with getting Covid twice, including what he did to treat it and what he would do differently if he gets it again The research behind the supplements that could help reduce Covid infections Where Chris’ book currently stands The three-part breakdown of his upcoming book The history of infant formula and why this isn’t helping us today Why Chris has a food-first mentality Why eating local could be detrimental to your health depending on where you live and what you can do about it The importance of micronutrients for heart health and reducing both cancer and diabetes risk What’s really affecting our soil quality right now Should you really eat seasonally? What nutrients should you test for?  How do you go about testing your nutrient levels? If Chris were to create a new Nutrition Facts label, here’s what he would change and why Resources mentioned in this episode: Chris Masterjohn’s website Chris Masterjohn’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel Chris’ Telegram link Chris’ upcoming book, Vitamins and Minerals 101 Chris’ Covid guide Chris’ cheat sheet for testing for nutritional deficiencies Wheat Belly by Dr. William Davis Cronometer
147: Brian Karr - How to Tell If You Have Mold in Your Home and What You Can Do About It
Brian Karr is known as The Mold Guy.    He’s a certified microbial investigator and co-founder of We Inspect, a company that’s revolutionizing the mold testing and inspection industry.   As you’ll hear about in this episode, Brian shares why traditional mold tests are outdated and inaccurate, a better way to test for mold in your home, why mold is a growing problem, and how to successfully remediate it.   You’ll also learn about the top places mold likes to hide in homes, outdoor mold issues and how to prevent them from getting inside, and more.     Dr. Anthony Gustin also shares his experience with finding mold in his home. Despite having indoor air quality samples come back negative for mold, his unexplainable symptoms said otherwise.   See how Dr. Gustin got to the bottom of his mold issue and what you can learn from his experience.   Here’s a peek at the episode breakdown: Dr. Gustin’s experience with discovering he had mold in his home How prevalent is having mold in our bodies and environment? What’s changed that led us to having more mold in our environments? Why mold is a growing problem Why certain people are more affected by mold than others What should you test for in your environment to see if you have mold? How Brian tests for mold What a typical mold remediation process should look like What do you do with all of your stuff if you have to clear out mold in your house? Do most people do a full remediation? And, if so, what would that look like? What to do during your inspection period if you’re buying a house How to treat mold that’s outside of your house and what you can do to prevent it from getting into your home The top exterior areas that could be growing mold and what to do about them Mentioned in this episode: Brian Karr’s website Brian Karr’s Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Brian’s podcast #moldfinders: RADIO The ERMI Code, which helps you understand your ERMI mold test results
146: Christopher Ryan - Are We Really Better Off Than Previous Generations?
In this episode, author of well-known books Sex at Dawn and Civilzed to Death, Christopher Ryan, and Dr. Anthony Gustin explore the misconceptions that everything in civilization is better.    To do that, they compare our modern Western life to that of an egalitarian hunter-gatherer society and they discuss what our current civilization has right, what’s dragging it down, what can be done about it, and more.   Chris and Dr. Gustin also answer questions like, are we really better off than previous generations? And, what does it mean to be human?   This is one of those episodes that may change what you previously thought and it’ll open your eyes to a completely new perspective.   You’ll also hear these other topics when you check this episode out: Why the statistics aren’t all they’re cracked up to be Did Chris have an “aha” moment that led him down this path? What does it mean to be human? Chris’ thoughts on our current state of agriculture   How tech is negatively creeping in like a parasitic infection Are we really better off than previous generations? What hunter-gatherer tribes have shown us Actual objective measures that determine quality of life Do things need to get bad before people look for better alternatives? How our planet’s carrying capacity is at its max How Chris balances being social and taking time away from people Other ways you can help contribute to creating a better world Chris also shares his experience buying land with friends to create a community that takes only the best parts of the modern world
145: Tucker Goodrich (Part Two) - The Research on Vegetable Oils and Inflammation, Cholesterol, Chronic Diseases, and More
In this two-part episode with Tucker Goodrich and Dr. Anthony Gustin, they dive deeper into the science on vegetable oils to see what the research shows when it comes to their role in inflammation, cholesterol, chronic diseases, and more.   Tucker and Dr. Gustin also discuss the common rebuttals people make in saying that vegetable oils are good for our health and cholesterol and they talk about how they can actually increase your risk for heart disease.   Here’s a look at some of the overarching topics they cover in the episode: Does consuming seed oils really lead to increased inflammation? What trials on linoleic acid consumption and migraines showed Aren’t seed oils better for your cholesterol? What the Lyon Diet Heart study discovered as the most successful heart disease prevention strategy How are seed oils connected to heart disease? What forced the US to ban trans fats and is there any chance it can happen with seed oils next? Is linoleic acid essential if it’s found naturally in foods? How Tucker thinks we should approach seed oils How seed oils sneak into the meat you’re eating What Dr. Cate Shanahan believes we could have done differently with the Covid-19 pandemic and Tucker’s thoughts on this
144: Tucker Goodrich - The Science Behind Vegetable Oils and Why They’re Terrible For You
Tucker Goodrich has been studying seed oils for over 10 years now and he’s become the world’s primary expert on them.   He comes on the show with Dr. Anthony Gustin to dive into the nitty gritty details and research behind why vegetable oils are so bad, why they’re so prevalent, where they came from, what happens when we over consume them, and the chronic diseases that surface from consuming them.   Dr. Gustin and Tucker Goodrich also discuss how Tucker found out that seed oils were a problem, his personal experience with removing them, how primitive populations who don’t consume them fare, what we’ve learned from animal studies, and so much more.   Here’s a peek at some of the topics Tucker and Dr. Anthony Gustin get into: Tucker’s backstory and how he went from being a Chief Technology Officer to studying the effects nutrition has on our health The serious health conditions Tucker experienced firsthand Why Tucker didn’t get better even after eliminating sugar and carbs and what he removed next The approach Tucker used to remove wheat and seed oils from his diet and what happened when he did Does consuming wheat or seed oils give you different symptoms? The food that gave Tucker the biggest reaction and why that is What Tucker removed from his diet that eliminated all of his health problems How is family reacted when he removed these offenders from their diet too What happens when seed oils break down in the body What we’ve learned from the Hadza tribe The shocking reason why seed oils were created in the first place plus how they're made How we went from having virtually no chronic diseases to 60% of the population experiencing them What was uncovered from animal studies that fed mice polyunsaturated fats and what we can take from this  The heart failure epidemic and what can be done about it Two omega-6 components to be concerned about Why it’s so hard to accurately study seed oils How seed oils are used to induce cancer in lab animals  How long does it take to return to baseline after removing seed oils? Why non-contact ACL tears are on the rise and what can be done about it How seed oils are getting into the meat we eat How much should we really worry about this?
143: James Connolly - The Real Issues That Need to Be Addressed With Our Food System
James Connolly, producer of two documentaries, Sacred Cow and Death in the Garden, comes on the show to discuss the problems with our food system, how they’re only getting worse, and what we can do to fix things. James first revolutionized the food system in some inner-city schools in New York and eventually went on to produce documentaries that highlight the true reality of the situation. In this episode, you’ll learn about how our food system evolved, the issues it faced back then and today, what’s really driving these issues today, and what it’s going to take to fix this. James also tackles the environmental issues with our food system, why he was a vegan for nine months and what happened as a result, and what’s going to happen if we don’t properly address these issues. James also shares more about the research behind vegan documentaries and how his research is different and he wraps the episode up sharing the incredible story of Steven Dozinger, a social justice activist that’s been wrongfully incarcerated. As mentioned above, James Connolly is the producer of the documentaries Sacred Cow and Death in the Garden. He’s also the co-producer of The Sustainable Dish podcast. In addition, James is an artist, chef, and non-profit co-founder of The Bubble Foundation, which focuses on issues of wellness and food insecurity in inner-city public schools. Tune in now to learn more and enjoy!
142: Chris Duffin - How to Strengthen Your Mind, Body, Relationships, and More
Chris Duffin is the only person to squat and deadlift over 1000 pounds for reps, he holds the Guinness World Record for the sumo deadlift, he’s been the number one ranked lifter in the world for eight years, and he’s a best-selling author. With such an extensive background, he comes on the show with Dr. Anthony Gustin to share how to strengthen all parts of your life, including your mindset, relationships, body, and so much more. Chris also discusses why it’s crucial for parents to pursue their dreams, how failure is your best teacher and why it’s necessary, what’s possible when you apply yourself to insurmountable tasks, and why you don’t need a bucket list. Chris also chats about the five “whys”, filling your cup and how to do this, and how to really establish your values. If you don’t know Chris, he has an engineering background, he’s earned an MBA, and he’s the best-selling author of The Eagle and The Dragon. Chris has also co-founded Kabuki Strength, Build Fast Formula, and Barefoot Athletics and he knows what it takes to build strength in all areas of your life. He comes on the show to share his knowledge on a number of different topics. Tune in now to learn more and enjoy!
141: Justin Mares - Changing the Food System With Regenerative Agriculture
Perfect Keto and Kettle & Fire co-founder Justin Mares comes back on the show with Dr. Anthony Gustin for a second time to discuss how a regenerative agriculture approach is better for the environment and how fake meats and plant-based diets are destroying our planet instead. Justin also talks about how using regenerative agriculture affects the supply chain, why farmers and ranchers are resistant to switch over, and how to get more people educated on its benefits. You’ll also learn about how we’re repeating history with a different weapon of choice, the problems with fake meats and popular plant-based foods like almond milk, why we need to quickly shift in the opposite direction away from fake food, and why many plant-based companies are heavily invested in promoting these foods to make a profit. Justin also shares what it’s been like to weave regenerative agriculture into his Kettle & Fire bone broth brand. If you don’t know, Justin Mares is the co-founder of Perfect Keto and Kettle & Fire, best-selling author of Traction: How Any Startup Can Achieve Explosive Customer Growth, and king of side hustles. Together, Justin and Dr. Anthony cover a ton of ground in this episode where they chat about fixing our food system and making regenerative agriculture more mainstream. Tune in now and enjoy!
140: Tim Grover - What It Takes to Win in Life
What does the mindset of an elite athlete look like? Tim Grover, best-selling author, speaker, and personal trainer to many top athletes, not only has a peek into the mental state of top performers, he also helps shape them and creates a victory mentality and he comes on the show to share all about this. Tim dives into what a victory mentality looks like, the definition of winning, the victim mentality and how to overcome this, and how to stack momentum. Tim also shares tips for how you can change your life, why you should focus on the uncontrollable things that come at you, using routines, and the huge difference between trying your best and doing your best. You’ll also hear Tim’s thoughts on finding balance, the separation between emotions and performance, and what to do if you’re in a rut.  If you don’t know Tim Grover, he’s a best-selling author, keynote speaker, and personal trainer who has worked with incredible athletes such as Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and more. He’s created his Relentless System for helping people reach unimaginable heights personally and professionally so that they can be their absolute best. As for his background, he earned a Master’s degree in Exercise Science and he was a former NCAA Division I basketball player. He’s also been inducted into the UIC Hall of Fame with the Lifetime Achievement Award in 2010. You may have even seen him on the docuseries The Last Dance. Tim’s a super great guy who knows what it takes to achieve a victory mentality and he comes on the show to share this and dissect how he works with top athletes and more. Tune in and enjoy!
139: Eric Perner - Optimizing Regenerative Agriculture for a Better Future for Our Planet
Eric Perner is the founder of Rep Provisions, a regenerative ranch in Oklahoma that’s making incredible strides in this space. That’s because Eric and his team actively work to regenerate America’s grasslands to produce clean foods that benefit people, animals, and our planet. And he comes on the show to share all of the fascinating things he’s up to with regards to that. So you’ll hear about how Eric took over a ranch in Oklahoma and completely transformed it in the years he’s had it. You’ll also discover his regenerative agriculture methods, why they work so well, and the powerful results he’s seen since implementing his practices. Eric also chats with Dr. Anthony Gustin about some of the problems regenerative agriculture farmers face, how monocrop farms are destroying our planet, and what it’s going to take to fix our food system. They also dive into how regenerative agriculture can transform the omega 6 to omega 3 ratios in pork, how regenerative farms follow natural cycles found in nature and work seamlessly as a result, and so much more. As you’ll learn in this episode, Eric’s dad taught him the importance of using farming practices that align with nature and work with it to make it better than it was before. He adopted this style of farming and took it further by optimizing the farm he took over where he uses regenerative agriculture to maximize land usage and promote a healthier environment. When you tune in, you’ll be amazed and impressed with how much Eric’s been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time and how it benefits people, animals, and the environment as a result.  If you’re into the regenerative agriculture space or you’re looking to learn the benefits that come with this powerful farming method, this is an episode you don’t want to miss. Tune in now to learn more!
138: Brad Marshall - The Science Behind Fat Storage
In this part two episode with molecular biologist Brad Marshall, Dr. Anthony Gustin dives into the science of fat storage and what you can do once your metabolism goes out of whack from consuming too much vegetable oils and sugar. As Brad explains, it’s not just as simple as removing these items from your diet, although that is a great first step to take. Instead, it’s about understanding a gnarly process called SCD1, which Brad and Dr. Gustin tackle in this episode, and stopping it dead in its tracks so that you can start to burn your own fat again. By doing this, you’ll be able to lose fat and keep it off once and for all. On top of that, Brad and Dr. Gustin also chat about what we can learn from animals who hibernate and how this translates to human health, the role leptin plays in fat storage, and whether there’s a genetic component at play here. They also chat about changing your metabolic rate and how you can do this, the desaturase index and how it relates to obesity, and so much more. If you missed Brad’s first episode, he’s an incredible wealth of knowledge. He went to Cornell to study molecular biology, he started a charcuterie business and several successful restaurants, and, most recently, he branched out into pig farming. Brad’s also known for starting The Croissant Diet and he’s a food historian who shares several fun facts along the way. Tune in now to learn more about the science behind fat storage and what you can do to finally eliminate fat once and for all.

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4.8 out of 5
2698 reviews
Case Bradford 2021/12/30
Powerful podcast
I’ve learned a ton from Dr. Gustin’s books and am glad to have discovered his podcast. It’s great! Highly recommended
3100bonita 2021/10/22
Intelligent Interviews
Dr Agustin is an excellent interviewer and has created a real learning space. His podcasts are based in science and research and he brings an open cur...
74cb400f 2021/12/24
Just another grifter cashing in on our horrible healthcare system. Same dumb talking points all the other bad actors
Zekecode 2021/12/04
Episode 138
Episode 138 is a direct lift from the Drive Podcast by Peter Attia. Unsubscribing.
Britt Stad 2021/07/20
Fantastic podcast.
Dr. Gustin is an excellent host who interviews guests without pushing his own agenda, and with a genuine intention to learn more & allow listeners to ...
cdavis211 2021/09/08
It's good but...
The information is great but Anthony can be prone to mumbling and uptalking which is a bit frustrating to listen to. If you're impatient listening to...
4jenzo 2021/08/20
Love the podcast but you talk so fast!!!
Great podcast. Been listening for 3 years and have enjoyed it but wow! You talk really fast sometimes and kind of mumble.
Airix24 2021/07/16
Great and important podcast
Very informative. The best podcast on health that I’ve listened too. This is a great way for people to learn more about health and become healthier.
EricaBushwell 2021/06/24
Awesome podcast!
Dr. Anthony Gustin, host of the Natural State podcast, highlights all aspects of nutrition and more in this can’t miss podcast! The host and expert g...
J. Chandler Arnett III 2021/04/22
Excellent Keto Resource!
My favorite Keto podcast, as I’m a beginner! Love the variety of guests and topics! Really helping me learn fast!


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