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Gayle AllenExplicit
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Date created
2015/10/14
Latest episode
2026/10/03
Average duration
52 min.
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14 days
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Want to get better at work? At managing others? Managing yourself? Gayle Allen interviews experts who take your performance to the next level. Each episode features a book with insights to help you achieve your goals.
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CM 329: Tania Lombrozo on Our How Explanations Shape Our Lives
2026/10/03
We’re constantly seeking explanations for why things happened. Why did a project fail? Why did someone behave the way they did? Why did one approach work when another one didn’t?
But explanations don’t just help us understand the past. They influence what we do next. The explanation we land on can affect what we learn, how we see others, and the decisions we make. And if we anchor on the wrong explanation, we can end up solving the wrong problem.
Tania Lombrozo studies how this works. She’s a professor of psychology at Princeton University and author of the new book, Why We Ask Why: The Science of Explanation and the Human Drive to Understand. Her research helps us understand why we’re so driven to seek explanations, how they shape the way we think and act, and how we can get better at using them in our work and lives.
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The Secret to Efficient Learning
Interview with Steven Sloman author of The Knowledge Illusion
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CM 328: Vanessa Bohns on When to Speak Up and When to Hold Back
2026/09/19
We’ve all had moments when we’re not sure whether to say something. A friend is making a mistake. A colleague seems upset. We have something personal we want to share. Do we speak up? Stay quiet? And how do we know which choice is the right one?
Social psychologist Vanessa Bohns studies what happens in these moments. She’s a professor of organizational behavior at Cornell University and author of the new book, Should I Say Something? The Science of What to Share and What to Keep to Yourself. Her research reveals why we often misjudge how other people will respond and how those assumptions can lead us to share too much, say too little, or avoid conversations altogether.
Vanessa helps us think differently about what it means to be honest, vulnerable, and open with other people. She also shares research we can use to make better decisions about when to say something and when it may be better to hold back.
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3 Ways to Make a Request That Doesn’t Feel Coercive
Do New Hires Really Understand Your Policies
Interview with Alison Wood Brooks, Episode 284
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CM 327: Adrian Owen on How to Sharpen Your Mind
2026/09/05
When it comes to enhancing mental performance, we’re all looking for an edge. And while a healthy diet, regular exercise, and ample rest support healthy brain function, they can only get us so far.
What really matters when it comes to improving our focus, regulating our emotions, or planning for our future, is taking a moment to think before we think. And to do that, we need to understand how our brains do these things, and what they need to do them well.
Adrian Owen is a professor of cognitive neuroscience and imaging at the University of Western Ontario. He’s spent his career studying how we’re able to do the amazing things associated with our brain’s executive function, things he shares in his latest book, Think Before You Think: Understanding and Mastering Executive Function. This was a fascinating conversation.
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Why Everyone Should Be Thinking More about Thinking
Episode 191 with Lisa Feldman Barrett
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CM 326: Gillian Sandstrom on How Small Talk Can Change Your Life
2026/08/22
Opportunities for human connection are all around us. When we’re in a café. At a restaurant. In a checkout line. Each instance is an opportunity for small talk with a stranger. And these interactions can yield big benefits.
Unfortunately, most of us are missing out. We’re not aware of how powerful these experiences can be. And that’s where researchers are sharing some incredible findings. University of Sussex psychology professor Gillian Sandstrom is one of these researchers.
Gillian has spent decades studying how these kinds of connections work and what they give us. More recently, she’s been researching the link to kindness. And if you’re skeptical about talking to strangers, Gillian’s written a book, Once upon a Stranger: The Science of How “Small” Talk Can Add up to a Big Life, that may be what you need to change your mind.
Episode Links
Avoiding Loneliness During Life Transitions
Don’t Dread Boring Small Talk. You’ll Like It More Than You Think
The Big Benefits of Small Talk
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CM 325: Donna Jackson Nakazawa on How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist
2026/08/08
Most of us ruminate. We get caught in a loop of thoughts that replay over and over again. It’s as if our brain is stuck in a place we don’t want to be, yet we can’t break free. Over time, those repetitive thoughts can become the lens through which we see ourselves, other people, and the world—and that lens is often shaped more by fear than reality.
Donna Jackson Nakazawa can help us break the cycle. An award-winning science journalist, Donna is the author of Mind Drama: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist. She spent years talking with researchers and clinicians to understand why we ruminate—and, more importantly, how we can shift from negative rumination toward creativity, curiosity, and growth.
Donna shares practical tools I’m already putting into practice. This is a book I’ll return to again and again.
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Are You Processing Your Emotions or Just Ruminating
How to Escape a Thought Spiral
Understanding Why We Get Lost in Thought Spiraling
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CM 324: Margie Lachman on the Myth of the Midlife Crisis
2026/07/25
Most of what we hear about the middle part of our lives is untrue. It’s focused on the myth of the midlife crisis rather than the realities of these years. This can create a sense of dread for a period of time with tremendous upside.
Margie Lachman has spent her career studying midlife. She's author of the book, Primetime: A New Vision for Midlife, Professor of Psychology at Brandeis University, and an expert in adult development and aging. Margie also directs the Brandeis University's Lifespan Lab.
This is a conversation about the complexities of midlife. In it Margie shares how to navigate them successfully.
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The ‘Midlife Crisis’ is Overblown – It’s Actually an Opportunity
Why Midlife Might Actually Be Awesome
5 Ways to Shape Your Health and Happiness in Midlife
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CM 323: Britt Frank on Getting Unstuck – Rebroadcast
2026/07/11
There are times in our lives where we feel stuck, be it personally or professionally. It might be in our career. It might in a relationship.
We’re smart, so we try to think our way out of it. But when we’re really stuck, thinking can turn into ruminating. And the more we think, the more we stay stuck. That’s when the labeling kicks in. The voice in our head labels us lazy, or crazy, or just plain unmotivated.
Today’s guest, Britt Frank, is a licensed specialist clinical social worker (LSCSW). She’s written the book, The Science of Stuck: Breaking Through Inertia to Find your Path Forward. Britt’s the perfect person to teach us how thinking our way forward may not be the right tool for the job. In this interview, she explains how we get stuck and steps we can take to move through it.
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How Long Does It Actually Take to Break a Bad Habit?
Six Things Successful People Always Do in a Conversation
Do Hard Things by Steve Magness
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CM 322: Tess Wilkinson-Ryan on When to Play the Fool – Rebroadcast
2026/06/27
No one wants to feel like a sucker. In fact, the very thought of being one – of playing the fool – shapes our behavior in powerful ways.
But what if our fear causes us to make choices that aren’t good for us? Or worse, what if people weaponize our fear in order to dominate or disempower us?
Tess Wilkinson-Ryan has written a stunning book on the topic called, Fool Proof: How Fear of Playing the Sucker Shapes Our Selves and the Social Order and What We Can Do about It. A psychologist and law professor, Tess helps us understand what this fear is, why we have it, and how it plays out in law, politics, and everyday life. She also shares how to overcome it and make the decisions that are aligned with our goals.
It’s a book you’ll keep thinking about long after you’ve read it.
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Breach is for Suckers
Transferring Trust: Reciprocity of Norms and Assignment of Contract
Moral Judgment and Moral Heuristics in Breach of Contract
Njinga of Angola: Africa’s Warrior Queen by Linda Heywood
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CM 321: Elizabeth Svoboda on Managing the Pace of Your Life
2026/06/13
Runners have pacers to help them manage their energy throughout a race. They couple that with a training program that balances extreme and moderate effort with rest. Research shows that this balanced approach ensures a stronger performance.
Like professional athletes, we, too, seek high performance. But we may not realize that, like runners, we need to manage the pace of our lives.
That’s where science journalist Elizabeth Svoboda comes in. Curious about the way athletes build rest into their workouts, she wondered if their recovery plans could help the rest of us. This research informs her book, The Art of Pacing: A Guide to Balancing Short-Term Demands with Long-Term Thriving. In it, she shares a range of effective tips that include personal storytelling, modulation, and much more.
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How to Find Inner Resolve in Times of Upheaval
An Athletic Coach for the Mind?
Interview with Malissa Clark
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CM 320: Jonathan Rhodes on Getting the Life You Want – Rebroadcast
2026/05/30
There’s a lot to be said for the excitement we feel when we first set a goal for ourselves. The sense of exhilaration can give us the momentum we need to get started.
But when the exhilaration wears off – and it usually does – we’re faced with a choice. Will we revert to old habits or develop new ones?
These moments are what Jonathan Rhodes calls choice points, and the decisions we make can really add up. Ultimately, how we manage ourselves in these moments can be the difference between the life we have and the life we want.
That’s why I wanted to interview Jonathan Rhodes, author of the book, The Choice Point: The Scientifically Proven Method to Push Past Mental Walls and Achieve Your Goals. His Functional Imagery Training provides a concrete roadmap to help us stay the course.
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Tokyo 2020: Simone Biles’ Withdrawal is a Sign of Resilience and Strength
How to Overcome Self-Limiting Beliefs
The Good Life: Lessons from the World’s Longest Scientific Study of Happiness by Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz
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CM 319: David Epstein on the Power of Limits
2026/05/16
We think we need complete freedom to achieve our goals. But maybe freedom is the problem. What if, instead, constraints are what we really need?
That’s the question David Epstein was curious about.
David Epstein is author of the bestselling books, Range and The Sports Gene. In his latest book, Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better, he combs through the research and tracks down the stories of just how powerful constraints can be. David shares these lessons with us in his book. He also shares how he applied these lessons to the process of writing this book.
In a world of overwhelm, David’s book is a comforting oasis and a powerful guide.
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Five Rules for Getting out of Your Own Way
Why Your Best Ideas Aren’t Original
Interview with Gloria Mark on Focus and Attention
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CM 318: Judd Kessler on How to Get More of What You Want
2026/05/02
We live in a world of markets. The ones we can easily see, like grocery stores or restaurants. And the ones that are less obvious, like college admission, waitlists, even your schedule.
Yet these less obvious markets play an important role in our lives. That’s why I wanted to speak with University of Pennsylvania economist, Judd Kessler, author of the book, Lucky by Design: The Hidden Economics You Need to Get What You Want. He not only helps us recognize these hidden markets, but he also arms us with the knowledge we need to succeed in them.
This is a book that will help you see the world with fresh eyes. You’ll not only understand how these less obvious markets work, but you’ll gain tips on more effectively designing your own.
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Is There a More Fair Way to Sell World Cup Tickets?
The Hidden Economy Deciding Who Gets into Your Favorite Concert, Restaurant, and Theme Park
‘AI Killed the Cover Letter.’ This Wharton Economist Says the Hiring Ritual’s Days Are Numbered
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CM 317: Eric Zimmer on How to Change
2026/04/18
It would be great if we could gain success overnight. In a matter of hours, we’d be happier, smarter, maybe even wealthier. But when we step back and assess how much time success actually takes, we can feel overwhelmed.
Those are the feelings Eric Zimmer certainly had. Faced with his own challenges, he knew he needed to change. And, over time, his curiosity about what change actually requires led him to the field of behavioral science.
The lessons Eric’s learned from his research – and his own life experience – are what he writes about in his masterful book, How a Little Become a Lot: The Art of Small Changes for a More Meaningful Life. And there are insightful nuggets and how-tos in every chapter.
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Wendy Wood on the Science of Habits
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CM 315: Chris Duffy Makes You Laugh
2026/04/04
When life gets hard, humor can feel like a luxury. Like an indulgence we don’t deserve or have time for. But science tells a different story.
Researchers have learned that humor can help with healing and grief, and it can improve our social connections. And innovators often call out the role fun plays in getting curious and acting on their ideas.
One of these innovators is Chris Duffy, a stand-up comedian, TV writer, and host of TED’s hit podcast, How to Be a Better Human. Chris sees humor as a powerful life practice, an argument that lies at the heart of his book, Humor Me: How Laughing More Can Make You Present, Creative, Connected, and Happy.
In this conversation we talk about how to build our humor muscle, what to avoid when going for a laugh, and why humor is really about the other person. Chris has written a book that is fun to read and fun to talk about. Talking to Chris, I can already feel my humor muscle getting stronger.
Related Links
How to Be a Better Human podcast with Chris Duffy
Chris Duffy on Substack
How to Find Laughter Anywhere, Chris Duffy’s TED Talk
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CM 314: Anthony Klotz on When and How to Quit
2026/03/21
Anthony Klotz believes we’re just one event away from quitting our jobs. Anthony is a professor of organizational behavior at University College London’s School of Management and the person who coined the phrase, “the Great Resignation.” He’s also author of the book, Jolted: Why We Quit, When to Stay, and Why It Matters.
Anthony’s research shows just how much leaders and employees need to learn about quitting. Employees, you have more options than you think. And leaders, you can pick up some important tips on how to manage employee resignations a whole lot better.
Interviewing, hiring, and onboarding are a key part of an employee’s success and a leader’s responsibilities. And this book shares tips on all of it.
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New Research on How to Get Workplace Rituals Right
Research: To Retain Employees, Promote Them Before the Job Market Heats Up
Interview with Annie Duke, author of the book, Quit
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Yaffet M. 2024/06/11
Want to be a better you? Listen to Curious Minds at Work!
Curious Minds at Work has done the work in collecting some of the greatest minds, all with the focus on helping you become a better you. Each episode ...
mvelasco07 2023/04/18
A must-listen!
Curious Minds at Work has quickly become a favorite in my feed! I'm consistently impressed by the engaging conversations, insightful content, and acti...
WorldCitizen007 2023/03/31
Best podcast ever!
Well curated, organized and useful content. Gayle does a fantastic job to find the most interesting topics, books and authors. It is my weekly go-to t...
JenDevilKitty 2022/04/30
Excellent, Informative & Engaging
Gayle interviews interesting people on interesting topics in very engaging and informative (riveting) discussions. Must-listen! Topics and areas ar...
ratsofNIMH 2022/03/16
Fascinating and fun!
Gayle is an incredible listener who brings out the best in her guests. She interviews many authors I’m already a fan of, and lots who are new. I want ...
Sidewalk Cinema 2021/11/22
Two shows in and I’m hooked
Discovered this podcast over the weekend and listened to two shows. Gayle has some terrific guests and asks great questions. What a terrific find!
savvy_entrepreneur 2021/08/31
Delightfully exploring curiosity
I can really nerd out on this podcast! I never quite know what to expect, but no matter the topic, Gail brings out the best in every guest. The result...
ajpkram 2021/07/20
Engaging & Present
I was introduced to this podcast by my dad, and literally am so glad he did! Looking to the experts you can tell Gayle reads the books, asks challengi...
malfoxley 2021/06/10
Great show!
Gayle, host of the podcast, highlights all aspects of creating meaningful works and more in this can’t miss podcast! The host and expert guests offer...
nsmcc 2021/05/08
One of the best podcasts I’ve found
Gayle is a great interviewer. She asks deceptively simple questions that enable her guests to explain their theses in ways that are sometimes more sim...
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