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Show #577 - Jews and Gentiles Together Description In this episode, we read an email from Michael Humphrey II who wrote an article we looked at last week (link below). Michael takes time to explain his position on Jews and Gentiles in the body of Messiah. We look at Ephesians 2 and the idea of circumcision within the first century. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:50 Start • 7:49 Jews and Gentiles Together • 18:32 Rav Shaul Language • 29:50 Identity in Christ • 39:35 Ephesians 2 • 51:55 Article Tease Links Are You a Gentile – Humphrey Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #577 – Jews and Gentiles Together appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #576 - No Longer Gentile? Description In this episode, we discuss the idea of Gentiles as covenant members and if coming into covenant makes them no longer Gentiles. How does the end time prophecies depict gentile nations coming to worship God as covenant members if all Gentiles are no longer Gentiles? We end the show with a discussion on Torah observance by the Church fathers and why the Torah we abandoned so quickly. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:52 Start • 7:03 Gentiles Still? • 31:35 Formerly Gentiles • 40:46 Fredriksen • 50:19 Church Fathers Links Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #576 – No Longer Gentile? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #575 - Festivals in the Diaspora? Description In this episode, we look at the growing claim we should not be celebrating the festivals in the diaspora. We also look at a clip from Gateway Center for Israel that claims the festivals are only for Jews. Finally, a discussion on Atonement in 1 Samuel 3. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:48 Start • 6:13 Sukkot for Native? • 27:11 Festivals Only for Jews? • 49:42 Atonement in 1 Samuel Links Should Gentiles Celebrate the Biblical Feasts? Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #575 – Festivals in the Diaspora? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #574 - Gentiles Keeping Torah? Description In this episode, we look at an article by David Wilber and discuss how Gentile Torah observance helps Jewish believers fulfill their call to be a light to the nations. Then we turn to Romans and the idea of “all Israel will be saved” and what exactly this means. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 3:36 Start • 5:22 Gentiles Keeping Torah • 35:41 All Israel Will Be Saved Links Gentiles Keeping Torah – David Wilber Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #574 – Gentiles Keeping Torah? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #573 - Does Baptism Replace? Description I this episode, we look at a Facebook post from Chad Bird who suggests Baptism has replaced circumcision and given us a “how-much-better gift” to His people. We explore Genesis 17 and Galatians 3 to get a better grasp on this and then contend the gift God has given to His people has always been the same gift, the Spirit through faith in the Seed promised to Abraham. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:51 Start • 4:29 Fall Festivals • 12:35 Post by Chad Bird • 30:33 Colossians 2 • 34:48 Genesis 17 • 41:49 Genesis 17.14 • 47:22 Galatians 3 Links Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #573 – Does Baptism Replace? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #572 - No Distinction Description In this episode, we first link at the term “progressive revelation” and attempt to understand how this term is used by mainstream Christianity. We then move to the idea of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and look at if those before the Acts 2 event were indwelled by the Spirit, or if the Spirit only indwelled believers after this event. We then move to Acts 15 and ask if Gentiles are distinct in their keeping of the commandments, or if this has been a misreading of the text by those who think Gentiles have different laws than physical descendants of Jacob. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:49 Start • 5:44 Progressive Revelation • 17:47 Indwelling of the Spirit in the OT • 34:28 Looking at Acts 15 Links Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #572 – No Distinction appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #571 - Letters in Stone Description In this episode, we look at a video from a Christian pastor who contends the Sabbath has been changed from Saturday to Sunday. Using some of the things he says, we then turn to 2 Corinthians 3 and look at the ministry of the New Covenant through the Spirit vs the ministry of flesh through the Old Covenant. We finish by apply this to Romans 8. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:49 Start • 8:19 Sabbath Changed to Sunday? • 34:40 2 Corinthians 3 • 58:42 Romans 8 Links Why Do Jews and Christians Have Different Sabbath Days? Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #571 – Letters in Stone appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #570 - They Named Names Description In this episode, we begin by look at the idea of hell, then a quick discussion of “free will,” then we move to our final look at the IAMCS paper titled One Law Two Sticks. This is the final look at the paper we have been looking at for months. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:50 Start • 6:13 Thoughts on Hell • 13:50 Free Will • 25:28 One Law Two Sticks • 42:22 FFOZ and Tim Hegg Links One Law Two Sticks Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #570 – They Named Names appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #569 - Divorce in the Scriptures Description In this episode, I talk to Harold Rosin, author of the new book “Divorce in the Scriptures.” This book is an important study in the realm of divorce and is a great study for anyone, even those who have not been directly effected by divorce. Rosin surveys divorce throughout the Tanach and then moves into the Apostolic Scriptures. His study comes to a head with Luke 16:18 and the famous words of Yeshua. How should we understand this verse? Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:52 Start • 9:01  Galatians Timeline • 22:53 Abrahamic Covenant • 34:18 Interview with Harold Rosin Links Divorce in the Scriptures Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #569 – Divorce in the Scriptures appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #568 - Who's Teaching Salvation by Works Now? Description In this episode, we follow up with our email from last week, then we talk about definitions and why these names matter. WE then move to an interesting video put out by Gateway Center for Israel which attempts to state what is wrong with One Law theology. In the video, the speaker (Nic) seems to accidentally support salvation by works. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:52 Start • 5:34 – Follow Up • 20:36 – The Torah Movement • 33:47 – What One Law Gets Wrong • 54:43 – Salvation by Works? Links What Hebrew Roots and One Law Theology Gets Wrong Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #568 – Who’s Teaching Salvation by Works Now? appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #567 - Definitions Description In this episode, we look at an email from a listener and we attempt to define what exactly the Hebrew Roots movement is. We also look at Seventh Day Adventism, Sacred Name, Two House theology, and Nehemia Gordon. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:52 Start • 7:50 Defining Hebrew Roots • 29:12 Looking at SDA • 46:42 Calendar Issues • 53:36 Sacred Nameism • 100:29 Nehemia Gordon Links Ellen G. White: False Date Setting, Rewriting History, and a Fascination with End Time’s Predictions (Part 1) Ellen White: Rewriting History (Part 2) Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #567 – Definitions appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #566 - They Don't Like Gentiles Description In this episode, we look at the early church and it’s use of bread in communion, then we continue our look at the IAMCS steering committee’s 2014 paper “One Law, Two Sticks.” While proponents of the this view continue to claim they are not “anti-Gentile” this paper along with their suggestions on “unity” paint a very different picture. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:48 Start • 6:10 Revisiting Sukkot in the End Times • 11:26 Should We Be Keeping Purity Laws? • 21:16 Bread and Wine as Elements • 35:30 One Law Two Sticks Continued • 50:55 Anti-Gentile in Action Links One Law Two Sticks Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #566 – They Don’t Like Gentiles appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #565 - It's All Gonna Be Ok Description In this episode, we start by looking at several comments, one being on the future celebration of Sukkot by all nations and the idea of going up to Israel for the festivals. Then we turn once again to the One Law Two Sticks article by the IAMCS. The article now moves to specific teachers within the Hebrew Roots and focuses on Two House theology. In the end, we talk about God’s plan and how no amount of article writing will change God’s plan. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:50 Start • 8:09 Pinnacle of Prophecy • 12:29 Pilgrimage Festivals • 22:29 One Law Two Sticks… again • 53:00 Naming Names Links One Law Two Sticks Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #565 – It’s All Gonna Be Ok appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #564 - Mischaracterizing One Law Description In this episode, we address questions of canon and why Esther should be in our Bible. We also look at the idea the Torah is the bench mark of inspired Scripture. We then, once again, turn to the paper we have been going through by the IAMCS titled “One Law, Two Sticks.” We finally get into the portion of the paper where they attempt to characterize One Law as a false Gospel. Time Stamps (for YouTube Video) • 2:51 Start • 8:41 The Book of Esther as Canon • 18:23 Is the Torah the Bench Mark? • 32:27 Back to One Law Two Sticks • 46:21 Attacking One Law • 59:39 False Gospel? Links One Law Two Sticks Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #564 – Mischaracterizing One Law appeared first on Messiah Matters.

Show #563 - Interview with David Wilber Description In this show, I sit down with David Wilber to talk about his new book Pseudo-Scripture. Should the books of 1 Enoch, Jubilees, and Jasher be part of the biblical Canon? Historically the answer has been “no,” but in modern times some, especially in the Hebrew Roots movement are taking a different view suggesting these books are, in fact, inspired Scripture. Wilber will talk about his book and why he takes the historical view that these books are not in fact Scripture. Beyond this, we will also talk about Wilber’s new article on the Hebrew Roots movement and what makes this movement different than the Messianic movement. Links Pseudo-Scripture by David Wilber   What is the Hebrew Roots? – David Wilber Become and Executive Producer TorahResource Pronomian Conference TR Learning Center Executive Producers Bob & Larue Miller, Lee & Vivian Eagen, Erna Draper, Bobby Keicher, John Coulthard, Michael McClure, Micah Smith, Bryan Dillard. The post Show #563 – Interview with David Wilber appeared first on Messiah Matters.