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Klan-Destine Relationships. It began with a question. How can you hate me when you don't even know me? Listen to our interview with acclaimed musician, author, educator and race reconciliator, Daryl Davis. A chance encounter with members of the Ku Klux Klan led musician Daryl Davis on a quest to determine the source of the hate. His unorthodox, yet simple approach, has wielded surprising results and just might be the solution for all racial discourse. As a pianist, vocalist, and guitarist, he performs nationally and internationally with The Daryl Davis Band. He has also worked with such notables as Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley's Jordanaires, The Legendary Blues Band and many others. In 1983, A chance occurrence after one of his performances led him to befriend a member of the Ku Klux Klan. This eventually led Daryl to become the first black author to travel the country interviewing KKK leaders and members, all detailed in his book, Klan-Destine Relationships. Today, Daryl owns numerous Klan robes and hoods, given to him by active members who became his friends and renounced the organization. Davis has received the Elliott-Black and MLK awards as well as numerous national awards for his work in race relations. He is also an actor appearing in the critically acclaimed HBO's The Wire and most recently, as the subject of the documentary, Accidental Courtesy, which filmed his real life encounters with Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazi leaders as he helps to dismantle racism across the United States. All Music, Lyric and Performances by your Hosts, James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin

Welcome to The No I Know Podcast, where we shed light on what we think we know. Before we dive into the episode and it's context, a little primer on what the Six Viewpoints are: Shape, Space, Time, Emotion, Movement and Story. The seed of the entire work of The Six Viewpoints is found in the simple act of standing in space. From this perspective the artist is invited to read and be educated by the lexicon of daily experience. The information of space, the experience of time, the familiarity of shapes, the qualities and rules of kinetics in movement, the ways of logics, that stories are formed and the states of being and emotional exchanges that constitute the process of communication between living creature. These are the six materials named in The Six Viewpoints that constitute basic deconstructed theater. Working directly with these materials the artist begins to learn of performance through the essential languages as an independent intelligence. Now to my backstory of my experience with Six Viewpoints. In high school, I knew I wanted to attend NYU and when I auditioned and was accepted in, it was suggested I try The Experimental Theatre Wing. I have reflected since on why out of all the acting studios at Tisch School of The Arts, I was placed there. In the doc film about ETW, one of the founding teachers-Mary Overlie (who was one of my teachers) said "that most students at ETW were those who asked a lot of questions and were very strong in personalities, who participated in the world community as an experimenter, with serious focus. A strong desire to CREATE. This is true. I felt we were given permission to improvise, flexibility to go to my edge and past it.. at times in seeming madness, discomfort..the dark and the light, to experience all states of being, as acts of the soul and the KEY was in letting my body guide that experience, not the analytical mind. In one of my acting classes there with Andre Gregory, I saw that when an actor physically exhausted/released themselves (ALA the work of Grotowski) , something cracked open and when you opened the voice and "acted " from THAT place, it was operating from another level ...(Saskia Hecht-another teacher there said) you are using yourself but forgetting your "self", the inventiveness at Experimental Theater wing that both I witnessed and performed in, was breathtaking and changed the course of my development. I am so thankful to that person at my audition who saw that in me. And here we are in 2026 and listeners, I am excited to say that our guests today are a part of that world, one of whom is... WENDELL BEAVERS: A founding faculty and Director (1985-90) of NYU's Experimental Theater Wing (ETW) and founder of Naropa University's innovative MFA Theater: Contemporary Performance Program. An early collaborator with Viewpoints originator Mary Overlie creating and teaching Viewpoints curriculum at ETW from its inception in 1978 until moving to Naropa University in 2003. He is also a member of the founding artists group of Movement Research (NYC, 1978 to present), directing that collective and recently teaching in the Movement Research at MOMA series. He is currently teaching and mentoring a growing global community of teachers, performing and devising artists, writers and theorists who have been influenced by the Viewpoints work and his own performance practice and somatic research. He is an advisor to The Mary Overlie Legacy Project which is dedicated to the further unfolding of the Viewpoints as a body of work in the service of change and radical transformation. And are other guests today are from that Mary Overlie Legacy Project Team- Sophia Treanor: Sophia is the artistic director of the Six Viewpoints Institute and co-founder of the Mary Overlie Legacy Project. She worked with Mary Overlie, originator of the Six Viewpoints, as a student, teaching assistant, dancer, and close companion throughout the United States, Europe, and China from 2011 until Overlie's death in June of 2020. Sophia is a director, performer, educator and Biodynamic Craniosacral therapist based in New York City and British Columbia. Deborah Black: Deborah Black is a dance theatre artist, writer, and teacher. She is currently a PhD student in the Theater, Dance, and Performance Studies Program at UC Berkeley. Deborah's teaching and performance practice is informed by the meeting of dance and theatre and includes perceptual practices like Six Viewpoints improvisation, Grotowski, and Hamilton Floor Barre alongside postmodern philosophy. She seeks to unpack and deepen these intersections in her doctoral research bringing critical theories into conversation with experimental art practices. Tune in and Enjoy! ~Ilyana and James (*ALL MUSIC AND LYRICS IN THIS EPISODE WRITTEN AND PERFORMED BY JAMES HARRELL AND ILYANA KADUSHIN)

Welcome to the No, I Know Podcast, where we shed light on what we think we know. Since 2004,  I (Ilyana) have been performing  audio books and have talked on this podcast about what its like, definitely a marathon not a sprint!  Every narrator has their own way of connecting with a book and at the end of the day hopefully stays true to the author and story they are telling. On this podcast we have occasionally spoken to some of the authors I have worked with, some all the way from South Africa and todays guest who is in California! Lila Reisen,  Daughter of Afghan and Australian immigrants, Lila was raised in Bloomington, Indiana. In 2017, Lila graduated with a Master's degree in English literature and linguistics from the University of Zurich in Switzerland. Her debut YA novel, Free Radicals, was published in 2023. Her sophomore YA thriller, Rainsong, will be published by Knopf Books for Young Readers in 2026. Lila is a pluviophile who lives in sunny Southern California with her husband and toddler. We interview Lila and then she turns the tables and interviews us! Topics we will cover: *How did Lila become a writer? *How did she land on this genre of book? *What is her vision for her books and how does she want audiences to connect with them? *What was her inspiration for Rainsong? The location was like another character in this story, what is your connection to this area? The lead character, Zayn, what does she represent to you? *Lets talk about kickboxing/martial arts and your connection to it and how it appears in the book for main charcater Zayn. Lila asks Ilyana about: -- What was it like working on the Twilight books? How did you receive that role? -- What is your process for approaching a new manuscript? -- Ilyana gives her tips and tricks for vocal stamina and health in public speaking scenarios.  -- What is the most rewarding piece of feedback you've received from an audiobook listener? -- Did you have a fav section of Rainsong you really enjoyed narrating? *All music and lyrics in this episode written by Ilyana Kadushin and James Harrell.

Maiden Voyage of the No, I Know podcast with Ilyana Kadushin and James Harrell, featuring spirited stories about a honeymoon during a tropical storm and a wake up call to action during hurricane sandy, with live music and incidental sound. Music and Lyrics by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin. Accentuate the Positive Lyrics, by Johnny Mercer. (*This episode first aired in 2016).

It's 2026. As we desgin new episodes on the horizon, we offer you one from the archives. Our interview with healer and chinese medicine practicioner, Scott Suvow.  So many things in the this conversation you will be able to apply to your health and life.  Special Guest: Scott Suvow, is National Board Certified in Acupuncture and Chinese Herbology. In this episode, Ilyana and James chat with Scott about: The basics of the Eastern Medicine philosophy, what it really means to listen to your body, what happens during an acupuncture session, the power of flowers and his research on the ancient wisdom of IChing. Music Segment: Your hosts, James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin perform "Carry Us", written by Harrell and Kadushin.  First aired in 2017.

Do arts interventions and creative engagement really make a difference in our lives and our brains?  Yes, they really do. Come explore what the Neuro Arts movement is all about. In this conversation with Susan Magsamen, the author of Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us, and Director of The International Arts and Mind Lab at John's Hopkins University School of Medicine, we cover: *Why putting ourselves in the path of AWE is powerful for our brains. *What is Neuro-Plasticity? *How the Saliency Networks in our brains impacts why certain things resonate with us. *Why daydreaming is good for us. *How nature is the ultimate enriched environment for us. *What is the default mode network of our brain? The seat of ourslves or place of rumination? *And what actually causes us to ruminate? *The Aesthetic Triad, how we are wired vs our lived experiences. *The paradigm shift that is happening right now in public health. *Music Break, take a breathe and let go. (*Song: Of Your Own by James Harrell)  *Why Art and Science together is potent medicine. *What is Entrainment and why is it so powerful in arts interventions? *Music Break ( *Song by James Harrell, from documentary film Separate But Equal)  *Arts and Health vs. Pharmacology. *Are the Arts and Sciences dating? Yes and it's getting serious! *Closing song (Alchemy by Ilyana Kadushin and James Harrell)  *Signing off with Ilyana and James and may include some special cat guest! All Music and Lyrics in this episode by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin.  Visit: https://www.noiknowpodcast.com  https://www.neuroartsresourcecenter.com/home

Your vibration matters. Music and sound and the vibration and frequencies they emit, have a power to shift and transform us and even heal us. How? What does this mean and feel like? That's what this episode is all about. We have special treat, we recorded a sound bath healing session with Chrissy Earhart of Zenna Wellness Studio in Berlin, Maryland. What is a vibration in sound? How does it enter on a cellular level and how does sound heal us on a cellular level? What does it do to our body, mind and spirit? Headphone friendly episode, so listen with headphones!!! Intro and Outro Music written performed by Ilyana Kadushin and James Harrell This episode of NIK POD is sponsored by: Zenna Wellness Yoga and Sound Studio. This epsidoe orignally aired in 2020.

The movement  to protect land and natural resources in the United States has been going on for a long time. Our guests: Rosa Hance and Cindy Dillon have both worked on behalf of The Sierra Club in the state of Maryland.The Sierra Club was founded on May 28, 1892, with John Muir as its first president. It is the oldest and largest environmental group in America, the Sierra Club has 750,000 members. Sierra Club mission statement is "to practice and promote the responsible use of the earth's ecosystems and resources; To educate and enlist humanity to protect and restore the quality of the natural and human environment, and to use all lawful means to carry out these objectives." Protecting the environment and Improving lives. All music and lyrics in this episode written by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin.

Smart Growth can be defined as development that supports economic growth, strong communities and environmental health. Smart Growth can cover a range of development and conservation strategies that help protect our health and natural environment and make our communities more attractive, economically stronger, and more socially diverse. Our Guest is Gerrit-Jan Knaap, Professor of Urban Studies and Planning and Executive Director of the National Center for Smart Growth Research at the University of Maryland. Knaap's research interests include the interactions between housing markets and policy, the economics and politics of land use planning, the efficacy of economic development instruments, and the impacts of environmental policy. Knaap has authored or coauthored over 65 articles and coauthored nine books. He serves on the State of Maryland's Smart Growth Subcabinet, Sustainable Growth Commission, Governor's Scientific Advisory Panel, and the Mitigation and Science workgroups of the Climate Commission. All Music and Lyrics in this episode by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin.

Sit and listen. We are here for you.  Maybe baby step and look at those who came before you. Everybody loves the sunshine. Not everything needs to be said outloud.  You could write it down.  Reinvent your original thought into a poem, a song. Release your sludge and come home. What are you leading with in this life? Stories of Prince and  Nina Simone.  The dopamine of anger. You know better. All Music and Lyrics by your hosts James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin. www.noiknowpodcast.com

Your hosts, Ilyana and James return to ask some questions. In the quest to not be destabilized by all that you are not in control of, you can feel powerless. Yet you can maintain your humanity.   Can we become human again?  What does it mean to let it all go?  What are sacred doodles and what do they have to do with the seed of life? Alchemy and Self Hypnosis. Staying alive inside means making dirt and sifting for gems. And a visit from the Strawberry Express! You can and must ROCK ON! All music, lyrics and performances by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin

Co-hosts, Ilyana and James speak with Special Guest: Jason Schuler, an Interdisciplinary Performance Artist. You will learn about: Immersive Theater- What is it? Can you hypnotize an audience? Transhumanism- Humans and their relationship with technology (cell phones and all computers) can you go into a spiritual altered state with it? Will we become like our machines? Trans-migration of your spirit and falling in love with your computer? Can you cultivate a "Hallucinogenic" mind that brings enlightenment without using hallucinogens? Plus- an unplugged music performance of "Living Inside" and Jason leads the audience on a guided meditation that brings you back to the dawn of man. All Music and Lyrics by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin. *This episode originally aired in 2016.

We welcomed Lego Serious Play facilitator and Stories Love Music team member, Loretta Veney onto the podcast! We hear her powerful story about how Lego helped build a bridge between her and her mother when she was diagnosed with dementia. When Loretta joined forces with Stories Love Music we dreamed up the idea of a Creative Engagement: Empowering Caregiver Symposium and we just produced our first one in October 2024 in Ocean CIty, Maryland. We speak about how amazing it was to provide a space and creative experience for caregivers to relax and create. One of the symposium highlights was our collaborative session of Lego and Live Music. We take some time to describe the benefits of this multi-sensory session and how it can affect the mental and emotional health of our caregivers. All music and lyrics by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin.

An impassioned account of the fall and rise of the small American towns she cherishes by Dar Williams.   A musician, educator, author, Dar rose out of the vibrant mid-90's Boston scene, inspired by the eclectic influences of alt-rockers, Berklee jazz musicians, slam poets, and folk artists, After a year of touring non-stop with her first album, The Honesty Room, in 1994, she was invited by Joan Baez to tour in Europe and The United States. To date she has written 14 albums and 6 books. And we wanted two speak with Dar about one of those books. "What I Found in a Thousand Towns" A Traveling Musician's Guide to Rebuilding America's Communities—One Coffee Shop, Dog Run, and Open-Mike Night at a Time(published in 2017). A beloved folk singer presents an impassioned account of the fall and rise of the small American towns she cherishes. Dubbed by the New Yorker as "one of America's very best singer-songwriters," Dar Williams has made her career not in stadiums, but touring America's small towns. She has played their venues, composed in their coffee shops, and drunk in their bars. She has seen these communities struggle, but also seen them thrive in the face of postindustrial identity crises. Here, Williams muses on why some towns flourish while others fail, examining elements from the significance of history and nature to the uniting power of public spaces and food. Drawing on her own travels and the work of urban theorists, Williams offers real solutions to rebuild declining communities. What I Found in a Thousand Towns is more than a love letter to America's small towns, it's a deeply personal and hopeful message about the potential of America's lively and resilient communities. All Music and Lyrics by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin.

Right now on this planet it's time to wake up to what affects the development of self and our culture as a whole.  What if we were to regularly engage in the creative process and what happens to our spirit when we stop creating? Art and Spirit, they are in a marriage and are profoundly dependent on each other in ways we do not understand! What are the steps of the creative process and how is the subconcious at play with this? We have invited someone to shed light on this….an artist, teacher and author. Coeleen Kiebert is a sculptor working in both ceramic and bronze.  She exhibits her work nationwide in museums and galleries and is represented in numerous private collections.  She has degrees in Art Education and Psychology  Her interest in the psychology of the creative process, she pursued the effects of Asian philosophy on Western art.  Her search for the "spiritual" in art has taken her to extensive study and travel in Japan and China and left a decided impression on her sculpture.  These pursuits have become a powerful influence as she digs deeply for personal and spiritual meaning in her sculpting process. Music and Lyrics by James Harrell and Ilyana Kadushin.