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2026/04/22
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A Global weekly show interviewing authors to inspire, educate and inform the business world and the curious. Presented by the author of "Undisruptable", this Global show speaks of something greater beyond innovation, disruption and technology. It speaks to the human need to learn: how to adapt to and love a changing world. It embraces the spirit of constant change, of staying receptive, of always learning.
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Creativity Is a Skill: Jeff & Staney DeGraff on the C.R.E.A.T.E. Method (Clarify to Evaluate)
2026/04/22
Description:
Creativity isn't reserved for geniuses—it's a skill you can learn, practice, and compound over time.
In this episode of The Innovation Show, Aidan McCullen sits down with Jeff and Staney DeGraff to explore their practical framework for everyday creativity: the C.R.E.A.T.E. method. Based on decades of research and real-world application, they break down how innovation actually happens—not through lightning bolts, but through small, iterative wins.
From clarifying the real problem to evaluating ideas effectively, this conversation reframes creativity as a disciplined, learnable process.
Sponsored by Kyndryl, this episode also includes a giveaway for subscribers.
What You'll Learn: Why creativity is a learnable skill (not a talent) The power of small wins and iterative thinking How to identify the real problem before solving it Techniques like SCAMPER, analogies, and storyboarding Why evaluation—not ideation—often determines success How constraints and failure fuel innovation The C.R.E.A.T.E. Framework: Clarify – Define the real problem through iteration Replicate – Reapply ideas across domains Elaborate – Generate ideas using creative techniques Associate – Connect ideas through analogy and systems thinking Translate – Turn ideas into compelling stories Evaluate – Select the best ideas using structured methods Timestamps: 00:00 Sponsor and Giveaway
00:45 Creativity as Learnable Skill
04:59 Find Your Creative Rhythm
11:11 Constraints and Small Wins
20:57 Clarify the Real Problem
25:25 Replicate and Reapply Ideas
29:01 Elaborate With Wordplay
36:43 Associate Through Analogies
40:43 Translate Into Story
46:09 Evaluate Ideas Wisely
Featured Book: The Creative Mindset by Jeff & Staney DeGraff
Find the DeGraffs: https://jeffdegraff.com
Aidan McCullen is a Thinkers50 Innovation Award winner, keynote speaker Ireland, and host of The Innovation Show—the only podcast ever to receive a Thinkers50 award.
Innovation Isn't Harmony—It's Conflict | The Innovation Code Explained
2026/04/15
What if the real driver of innovation isn't alignment—but conflict?
In this episode of The Innovation Show, Aidan McCullen is joined by Jeff and Staney DeGraff, co-authors of The Innovation Code, to explore a powerful idea: innovation emerges from the tension between opposing perspectives—not from consensus.
Drawing on decades of research and real-world application, they introduce four archetypes that shape how individuals and organisations innovate:
The Artist (creation & ideas) The Engineer (process & execution) The Athlete (performance & results) The Sage (values & culture) Each brings strengths—and blind spots.
The key? Not eliminating conflict—but orchestrating it.
In this episode:
Why alignment can actually kill innovation The role of constructive conflict in high-performing teams How different mindsets clash—and why that's essential The lifecycle of innovation and who leads at each stage Why organisations fail when they can't change their worldview How to build cultures of adaptability and reinvention Featured Book:
The Innovation Code by Jeff & Staney DeGraff
Find the DeGraffs: https://jeffdegraff.com
Aidan McCullen is a Thinkers50 Innovation Award winner, keynote speaker Ireland, and host of The Innovation Show—the only podcast ever to receive a Thinkers50 award.
AI and the Octopus Organization: Autonomy, Distributed Intelligence & Faster Decision-Making
2026/04/08
AI is triggering a "big bang" in how organizations operate—and those that adapt fastest will win.
In this episode, Stephen Wunker and Jonathan Brill explore the concept of the Octopus Organization, where intelligence is distributed, decisions happen at the edge, and workflows—not jobs—are automated. Drawing on biology, they explain how autonomy, governance, and visibility can coexist to unlock speed, resilience, and innovation.
The discussion dives into overcoming organizational debt, avoiding groupthink and analysis paralysis, and shifting from rigid hierarchies to adaptive "kill web" structures. Real-world examples—from L'Oréal's rapid product cycles to AI-powered patent creation at Deep Invent—highlight how companies are already transforming.
This episode is essential listening for leaders looking to redesign their organizations for the AI era.
Split the Pie: Barry Nalebuff on Fair Negotiation
2026/04/01
How do you negotiate firmly, fairly, and effectively — without becoming a jerk?
In this episode of The Innovation Show, Aidan McCullen speaks with Barry Nalebuff — Yale professor, entrepreneur, and author of Split the Pie — about a principled approach to negotiation built around one simple idea: identify the pie, the extra value created only when both sides reach agreement, and split it equally.
Rather than relying on pressure, posturing, or arbitrary bargaining, Barry shows how negotiation can become a logical, ethical, and data-driven process. Drawing on cooperative game theory and real-world business experience, he explains why most people misunderstand what is actually being negotiated — and how that confusion leads to bad deals and bad relationships.
The conversation includes examples from:
Barry's mother buying her rented home,
Coca-Cola's acquisition of Honest Tea,
a negotiation with a domain-name squatter,
grant funding and workload-sharing examples,
lease-breaking, tax-loss mergers, and everyday fairness disputes.
This is a practical episode for founders, executives, investors, academics, negotiators, and anyone who wants to create better outcomes through principle instead of power plays.
What you'll learn in this episode:
What Barry Nalebuff means by "the pie"
Why fairness starts with understanding the real source of value
How to negotiate without aggression or manipulation
Why principles beat arbitrary numbers
How game theory can improve business and life decisions
How to avoid accepting less than your fair share
Timestamps
00:00 Sponsor Message
00:28 Negotiation Without Jerk
01:50 Split The Pie Idea
03:29 Dollar Bill Example
05:15 Mom House Deal
11:49 Talmud Cloth Principle
14:22 Honest Tea Coke Bottles
17:16 Coke Buyout Terms
22:02 Domain Troll Negotiation
27:33 Holding Firm on Fairness
28:36 Principles Over Arbitrary Numbers
31:17 Anju and Bharat Interest Puzzle
35:35 Power and Hidden Pie Ethics
37:23 Game Theory and Spock Logic
42:09 Sisyphus Grant Split Example
48:46 Breaking the Lease Loss Pie
52:01 Mergers Tax Losses and Equality
53:12 Fairness Equity and Negotiation Ethics
56:28 Where to Find Barry
57:29 Sponsor and Sign Off
Nokia Saw iPhone Coming - So What Went Wrong?
2026/03/24
What if Nokia saw the iPhone coming and still couldn't stop it?
In this episode, strategy professor Timo Partanen, former Nokia market intelligence leader (2001–2009), reveals what was really inside Nokia's internal iPhone threat briefing presented to senior leadership.
Nokia had tracked Apple for years. They saw the signals like touchscreen innovation, strategic hires, and shifting user expectations. The iPhone's hardware wasn't the surprise.
The real shock was Apple's ecosystem.
From its exclusive partnership with Cingular (AT&T) to alliances with Google and Yahoo, Apple didn't just launch a product, it launched a new business model. One that exposed Nokia's blind spot: a hardware-first culture in a platform-driven world.
We explore why clear warnings didn't lead to action, how strategy broke down between leadership and execution, and what today's companies can learn about disruption, partnerships, and transformation.
This is a story about missed shifts, internal friction, and the difficulty of turning insight into impact.
Nokia's Comeback Explained: Emotion, Strategy & Boardroom Decisions
2026/03/18
How did Nokia survive one of the most dramatic collapses in business history?
In this episode, we explore the hidden driver of strategy under pressure: emotion.
Drawing on research based on 100+ interviews inside Nokia between 2007 and 2013 , INSEAD's Quy Huy and Aalto University's Timo Vuori join Aidan McCullen to explain how large organizations can execute radical pivots—not just through analysis, but through structured emotion regulation.
We unpack how Nokia moved from denial, fear, and rigid thinking to a disciplined, data-driven, and emotionally aware strategy process that enabled it to exit mobile phones and rebuild around networks and 5G.
You'll learn:
Why strategy fails when emotions go unmanaged
How boards can shape better decisions by regulating—not suppressing—emotion
The role of consultants, teams, and partners in expanding strategic thinking
Why discussing failure systematically leads to better outcomes
How to design strategy processes that work under uncertainty
This is not just a story about Nokia—it's a blueprint for any organization navigating disruption, uncertainty, and high-stakes decisions.
Sponsored by Kyndryl – helping the world's leading organizations modernize and run mission-critical systems for smarter decisions and lasting competitive advantage.
Everyone Thinks the iPhone Killed Nokia. They're Wrong!
2026/03/10
Most people believe the iPhone killed Nokia.
But the real story behind Nokia's collapse is far more complex — and much more human.
At its peak Nokia controlled nearly 50% of the global mobile phone market and had over one billion customers. Yet within a few years the company lost the smartphone war as Apple and Google reshaped the industry.
In this episode we continue our deep dive into the research of Quy Huy and Timo Vuori, whose study reveals how fear inside Nokia distorted communication and decision-making. Senior leaders felt intense pressure from competitors and investors, while middle managers feared delivering bad news. The result was silence, denial, and what the researchers call "collective lies."
We explore how Nokia became trapped by its Symbian platform, how short-term financial pressures undermined long-term innovation, and why leadership dynamics and organizational culture can determine the fate of even the most dominant companies.
The lesson: strategy often fails not because of technology — but because leaders stop hearing the truth.
Who Killed Nokia? How Fear and Emotion Derail Strategy, Innovation, and Truth-Telling.
2026/03/05
Nokia didn't lose the smartphone battle because it lacked smart people or a strategy deck. It lost because fear and shared emotions quietly reshaped attention, filtered information, and weakened truth-telling.
Quy Huy (INSEAD) and Timo Vuori (Aalto University)—authors of the 2016 research on Nokia's collapse—explain how leaders hid emotions behind "technology and finance talk," how dissent was punished, and how misaligned fearformed: executives feared competitors and shareholders while middle managers feared their bosses. We connect the dots to psychological safety, power traps, poker-face leadership, burnout, and what this teaches leaders facing AI disruption today.
Find Quy
https://www.insead.edu/faculty-personal-site/quy-huy
https://knowledge.insead.edu/strategy/nokias-reinvention-was-emotionally-driven
Find Timo
https://research.aalto.fi/en/persons/timo-vuori/
https://adaptivevolcano.com/about
The Spectacular Rise and Fall of BlackBerry with Jacquie McNish
2026/02/23
BlackBerry once ruled the business world.
Presidents, CEOs, and Wall Street relied on its encrypted devices. Then the iPhone arrived — and everything changed.
In this episode, Jacquie McNish, co-author of Losing the Signal, unpacks the untold story behind:
• The improbable rise of Research In Motion
• The 2011 global outage crisis
• The NTP patent war
• 9/11 and encrypted messaging dominance
• The internal fracture between Mike Lazaridis and Jim Balsillie
• The Storm failure
• The QNX pivot and BlackBerry's second act
A fascinating case study in leadership psychology, technological disruption, and strategic inflection points.
This is a masterclass in: Innovation Leadership Disruption Scaling culture Strategic blindness Corporate inflection points
📘 Book: Losing the Signal by Jacquie McNish & Sean Silcoff https://amzn.to/4tVBHWk
🎙 Hosted by Aidan McCullen Aidan McCullen is a Thinkers50 Innovation Award winner, recognised for his contribution to global innovation practice through The Innovation Show.
Aidan is a Global and Irish Keynote speaker recognized for his engaging storytelling style and his bestselling book Undisruptable: A Mindset of Permanent Reinvention. The Innovation Show remains the only podcast ever to receive a Thinkers50 award, and Aidan is only the second Irish person—after Charles Handy—to be honoured.
#BlackBerry #Innovation #BusinessStrategy #TechHistory #Leadership #StartupLessons #iPhone #Apple #Entrepreneurship #Disruption
Corporate Innovation Strategy: Return Maps, Managing Up & Forecasting with Chuck House
2026/02/18
Why does corporate innovation fail so often — even with talented teams and strong ideas? In this episode of The Innovation Show with Aidan McCullen, intrapreneur and innovation veteran Chuck House returns to explain why innovation dies when projects, programs, and strategy aren't clearly connected — and why executives often misjudge innovation timelines because they're optimizing established businesses.
Chuck breaks down the 4 intrapreneur traits (curiosity, perspective, resilience, and comfort with data) and the overlooked career skill that makes or breaks intrapreneurs: managing down AND managing up. Learn how to build team trust, navigate organizational politics, make "invisible work" visible, and persuade decision-makers to keep the right bets alive.
He also challenges traditional project review approaches (IRR, cost/schedule targets, early sales projections) and introduces his practical alignment tool: the Return Map — a living, cross-functional view that integrates investment, revenue, and profit over time, assigns accountability across functions, and forces iterative re-forecasting as reality changes (slips, market windows, manufacturing costs, and sales forecasts).
In this episode
Why innovation feels like "snakes and ladders" inside large organisations
Steve Jobs as a blueprint: iPod → iTunes → iPhone as a strategic cycle
Managing up: credibility, trust, and navigating corporate politics
Why HQ metrics can kill risky projects too early
Brunnergrams vs strategy: what engineering tracking misses
How Return Maps improve alignment, accountability, and forecasting
Teaser: a future conversation with Kodak digital camera inventor Steve Sasson
Sponsor: Kyndryl
Digital Transformation Playbook (10 Years On) AI, Disruption & Platform Strategy with David Rogers
2026/02/11
This week's guest is David Rogers, Columbia Business School professor and author of Digital Transformation Playbook.
We discuss digital transformation strategy, AI in business, disruptive innovation, platform business models, network effects, and leadership in the age of AI.
If you're navigating digital transformation or AI strategy, this episode is essential listening.
00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message
00:35 Meet the Digital Transformation Expert
01:38 Impact of the Digital Transformation Playbook
05:40 Evolution of Digital Transformation
07:24 The Role of AI in Digital Transformation
09:21 Frameworks and Theories of Disruption
09:38 The Story of Encyclopedia Britannica
16:59 Understanding Business Disruption
24:44 Disruptive Business Model Map
33:12 Understanding Network Effects
34:41 Same Side vs. Cross Side Network Effects
38:01 The Challenge of Competition in Platform Businesses
42:21 The Importance of Platform Business Models
46:13 Four Types of Platform Businesses
49:19 Platform Business Model Map
54:28 Value Train Analysis
01:02:22 The Evolution of Digital Transformation
Find David:
https://davidrogers.digital/about/
Behind the Music: The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift Part 2 with Kevin Evers
2026/02/03
In this episode, we explore the strategic brilliance of Taylor Swift with Kevin Evers, author of There's Nothing Like This. From genre-shifting reinventions to billion-dollar tours, Taylor's evolution isn't just musical—it's a masterclass in brand, resilience, and audience engagement.
🎯 We cover:
The pivot from country to global pop dominance
How Taylor handled public backlash & the Kanye/Kardashian controversy
Her savvy response to the streaming revolution
Ownership battles over her masters and how it reshaped the industry
Building the Eras Tour as a pinnacle of fan-first strategy
What businesses can learn from Taylor's "anti-fragile" mindset
Whether you're a fan, a founder, or fascinated by the music business, this is a powerful look at how strategy meets stardom.
🔗 Learn more about Kevin's book: nothinglikethisbook.com
🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to support the show!
https://thethursdaythought.substack.com
The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift with Kevin Evers-esv2-96p-bg-10p
2026/01/28
In this episode, Aidan McCullen welcomes Kevin Evers, editor at Harvard Business Review Press and author of There's Nothing Like This: The Strategic Genius of Taylor Swift. Together, they explore how Taylor Swift built not just a music career—but a global business empire.
From fearless reinvention and blue ocean strategy to her mastery of fan engagement and brand evolution, Taylor Swift's rise is a masterclass in innovation, leadership, and vision. Learn how her career mirrors the strategic moves of top businesses, and what leaders, entrepreneurs, and creators can take away from her story.
Tune in for:
The psychology and strategy behind Swift's career decisions
How she shaped fan culture and digital engagement
Lessons in brand authenticity, creative growth, and leadership
What businesses can learn from Swift's reinvention and market disruption
Whether you're a Swiftie, strategist, or business leader, this episode offers sharp insights into how to turn art into lasting impact.
Find Kevin: https://www.nothinglikethisbook.com
From Rambling to Impact The Power of Making a Point
2026/01/21
📘 Guest: Joel Schwartzberg, author of Get to the Point & The Language of Leadership
In this episode, we cut through the noise and get straight to the point—literally. Communication expert and author Joel Schwartzberg returns to discuss the art and science of clarity in communication. Whether you're a leader, innovator, speaker, or simply want to stop rambling and start resonating, this episode is packed with practical, game-changing advice.
We explore:
Why having a clear point is the cornerstone of influence
How to sharpen your message with Joel's "I believe" and "XY" tests
The power of pausing, volume, and emotional contagion in speech
How to handle interruptions with grace and still deliver your message
Real-life analysis of effective speeches (including a powerful moment from Demi Moore)
The role of AI in crafting and questioning your communication
Sticking the landing: how to end your message with lasting impact
💡 If you've ever struggled to communicate a big idea or felt your message wasn't landing—this episode is your ultimate toolkit.
🔗 Show Notes & Resources:
Joel's website: joelschwartzberg.net
Book: Get to the Point (Updated 10-Year Anniversary Edition)
Sponsored by: Kyndryl.com
Innovation Show https://thethursdaythought.substack.com
Unlocking the Power of Insights with Gary Klein | Insights and Innovation
2026/01/14
In this episode, we sit down with Gary Klein, author of Seeing What Others Don't, to explore the fascinating science behind insights and how organizations can foster smarter thinking and innovation. Klein dives deep into over 120 real-world stories he's collected—ranging from Daniel Boone to Napoleon—and explains the two powerful triggers behind most breakthroughs: connections and anomalies.
Discover how organizations often suppress insights, and why a focus on predictability and perfection can kill innovation. Learn about his new concept of Insight Audits and how leaders can shift their environments to better capture the power of spontaneous insight.
00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message
00:27 Guest Introduction: Gary Klein
00:59 Collecting Stories of Success
02:19 The Down Arrow vs. The Up Arrow
04:43 Investigating Insights
05:38 Themes of Insight: Connections and Discrepancies
07:10 Historical Models of Insight
09:16 Organizational Barriers to Insight
11:17 The Perfection and Predictability Traps
15:06 Case Studies: Missed Discoveries
25:14 The Garden Path Phenomenon
32:30 Insight Audits in Organizations
36:48 Ideas That Escape: Case Studies and Suppression
37:27 The Battle of Midway: Intelligence and Strategy
41:38 The 1973 Yom Kippur War: Ignored Warnings
47:23 Napoleon's Tactical Genius at Toulon
50:58 Creative Desperation: The Mann Gulch Fire
58:42 Yellow Fever: The Mosquito Hypothesis
01:06:46 Daniel Boone: Abandoning the Project Plan
01:10:47 Conclusion and Resources
Find Gary here: https://www.shadowboxtraining.com/our-team/people/gklein/
Find Seeing What Others Don't: The Remarkable Ways We Gain Insights here:
https://amzn.to/4qNlekq
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Erik Greenstein 2023/03/07
Learnings
I was listening to the Michael B Horn episode and thinking about some of the take away from this podcast and others in the series. Horn speaks about t...
dapperdude7 2022/12/15
Awesome
Fantastic content, excellent host, I LOVE this podcast. Highly recommend it for folks who want to stretch the mind and their world.
SierraD247 2021/10/30
Class Lecture
Took a class at Trinity Business School with Aiden and it was very helpful not only from the standpoint of academia, but in understanding how the brai...
Anne Janzer 2021/08/05
Always a thought provoking discussion
Aidan is a fantastic host and interviewer, which generates lively discussions. I learn something every time I listen, and even when I show up as a gue...
M Conaghan 2021/02/22
Always learning new things
Start to finish this podcast is fantastic. The versatile content and engaging interactions keep my focus in a very entertaining, well-structured show....
T.Gre. 2020/12/06
Recommend!
This podcast started being part of my daily routine after getting introduced to it a few weeks ago. The narrators engaging voice and the interesting g...
notthebrother 2020/11/22
Great podcast
Aiden McCullen does a wonderful job of inspiring us to face the challenges of our ever changing world. The insights from his excelente guests are fasc...
Bananas rule 2020/11/19
Incredible Show!
The range of topics is broad and caters to everyone. No need to be a computer genius or AI wizard, just have an open mind and enjoy Aidan and his gues...
Regina M. Fitzpatrick 2020/11/08
Educational and interesting!
Great range of interesting topics covered. Science, technology, psychology, and more- learn about subjects you never know you needed until now!
Emily Jane Quinn 2020/11/07
Fantastic!
Great podcast! Aidan really breaks down some difficult concepts and provides valuable insight. Easy to follow and would recommend to a friend! 5/5 sta...
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