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2017/03/24
Latest episode
2026/10/07
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24 min.
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14 days
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Conversations on the art of creative entrepreneurship with David C. Baker and Blair Enns
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Get Your Freak On!
2026/10/07
Blair has been thinking about how, as AI continues to streamline more administrative tasks over time, we will be left to focus on the things we humans are good at – interacting with other humans. Because of this, the interesting people will win in selling their services and expertise.
Links "The Interesting People Will Win" by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com
"The Fertility Crash Will Make the World a Small Town" by Tyler Cowen for The Free Press
Jesse Ratner's March 27 LinkedIn Post about AI
Do You Need an Advisory Board?
2026/09/23
We all know how valuable external input from trusted advisors can be for our business. But what does that look like for independent agencies who don't have investors to answer to?
LINKS "Do Independent Firms Need A Board?" by David C. Baker for punctuation.com
A Proposed AI Contribution Scale
2026/09/09
Categorizing AI-generated copy as "human vs AI" is not as binary as with AI-generated images or video. So Blair has developed an AI Contribution Scale to help us all be more transparent when using LLMs in the creation of written communication intended for prospects, clients, and peers.
[This episode's notes are AI-0]
Links AI Contribution Scale
"The Coming Collapse of 'Thought Leadership'" by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com
Curt Jaimungal's 5-minute YouTube video on why you shouldn't let AI write for you
How Sellable Are You?
2026/08/26
In a recent article, David discloses the questions all creative agency principals need to answer whenever they are ready to find the right buyer and successfully navigate the merger and acquisition (M&A) process to complete the sale.
LINKS
"How Sellable Is Your Firm?" by David C. Baker for Punctuation.com
Positioning, Strategy, and AI
2026/08/12
Blair and David are hearing all kinds of people talking about how their positioning needs adjustment because of AI. Blair does see an issue developing for many creative firms, but more with business strategy instead of positioning.
Links Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind and The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing by Al Ries and Jack Trout
Good Strategy / Bad Strategy by Richard Rumelt
Playing to Win by Roger L. Martin
The Lords of Strategy by Walter Kiechel, III
Employee Retreats for Remote-First Teams
2026/07/29
David recommends regular in-person company-wide gatherings for remote workers as an opportunity for creative agencies to help build their organization's culture in our post-pandemic economy where online video meetings continue to fill our calendars and working from home is the new norm.
LINKS
"Investing in Ee Retreats at Remote Firms" by David C. Baker for punctuation.com
Productization (Again)
2026/07/15
Blair changes his mind on productized services. Again. And AI is the reason.
LINKS
"The New Age of Consulting" by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com
Thirteen Signals Your Website Should Send
2026/07/01
David shares a quick list of website elements he sees is missing from a lot of creative firms' websites which could help them attract more new business.
Links "13 Signals Your Website Might Send" by David C. Baker for punctuation.com
Embrace the Marketing Mess
2026/06/17
Blair shares what stuck in his mind about marketing success from listening to a recent podcast interview with Rory Sutherland on Liam Curley's Undisputed Authority.
Links "Embrace the Marketing Mess" article by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com
Rory Sutherland podcast interview on Liam Curley's Undisputed Authority
Firms Most at Risk
2026/06/03
Which segments of our field will thrive in the near future and which ones will slowly lose relevance, and why? David wants creative entrepreneurs to continue being resilient and reinventing themselves every two years while keeping a watchful eye on constantly evolving industry practices and technologies (including AI).
Links "Most At-Risk Shops" by David C. Baker for punctuation.com
Pricing Resentment
2026/05/20
Blair sees creative entrepreneurs opening themselves up to pricing resentment from their clients when the value of their contributions diminishes over time, especially when they've created significant economic value at the beginning of a long-term engagement.
LINKS
"Is Your Pricing Creating Resentment?" by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com
People vs. Profits
2026/05/06
Prompted by a recent trip to Europe, David considers how the differences between worker protection laws in Europe compared to North America affect starting and running an agency in this fast-changing global economy.
Links "Employment Law + Economic Flexibility" by David C. Baker for punctuation.com
2Bobs in Tuscany
Join David, Blair, six other business owners and their spouses for four days and nights of creative business exploration in an intimate countryside villa designed for long meals, deep conversations, and unhurried thinking.
Learn more and apply at 2Bobs.com/events
Three Patterns of Lost Opportunities
2026/04/22
Blair identifies three recurring categories of lost sales in creative firms and offers solutions to each. Fixing two of these patterns can reap the dividends immediately, and adjusting your sales approach for all three will pay off for years.
LINKS
"Three Patterns of Lost Opportunities" article by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com
Brigadoon.live
"Slapping Down Your Childlike Glee" 2Bobs episode
"Debriefing After a New Business Call" 2Bobs episode
"Assume an Advantaged Player" 2Bobs episode
"The Rungs You Can Reach on the Ladder of Lead Generation" 2Bobs episode
Why Clients Come, Stay, and Leave
2026/04/08
David sees a lot of creative agencies making bad assumptions about their client relationships by not making the distinction between the reasons why clients come to them in the first place, why they choose to continue working with them as time passes, and then why they ultimately move on.
LINKS
"Distinguishing Between Why Clients Come, Stay, and Leave" by David C. Baker for punctuation.com
"The Waterfall of Differentiation" 2Bobs episode
Is AI Going to Kill Labor-based Pricing?
2026/03/25
Blair is stunned that he still encounters so many advisory businesses like ad agencies, consulting firms, legal and accounting practices — large and small — that are still selling time. So he and David discuss what new revenue models should look like as we all adapt to how AI is changing our businesses.
Links "Time's Up, Babycakes" by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com
Time's Up!: The Subscription Business Model for Professional Firms by Paul Dunn and Ronald J. Baker
The Automatic Customer: Creating a Subscription Business in Any Industry by John Warrillow
The Forever Transaction by Robbie Kellman Baxter
Subscribed: Why the Subscription Model Will Be Your Company's Future – and What to Do About It by Tien Tzuo and Gabe Weisert
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LFR777 2024/10/21
Genuine inspiration
I select an episode to listen to every time I have a meeting with a new prospect. Great way to reframe my thinking and bring my best self to the table...
Sultana M. 2024/06/18
One of the best podcasts out there for agencies and professional services
This podcast has driven and inspired strategic direction for my agency. What I love most is that it inspires strategic changes that lead to profitabil...
etagwerker 2023/12/05
Great content from industry experts
I love their takes and content. Very specific and relevant to creative agencies and their sales efforts
ShadowsFall77 2023/06/21
Good Work, Gentlemen!
Great podcast! Informative AND entertaining. I have one burning question. Which one of you is Bob?
ehdgdhdgdjdhjed 2022/10/14
Bless these Bobs!
First there was Tom and Jerry, Lennon and McCartney, Burt and Ernie, R2D2 and C3-PO and then Blair and David! I’ve learned so much from their great c...
Jared DeValk 2022/04/14
One of the Best Podcast for Agency Partners & Professionals
David & Blair kill it with their knowledge bombs they drop.
With exception of the April Fools episode, I take some type of notes from every episode. ...
Jay Bones 2022/03/04
Gold
This podcast is super valuable as a creative agency professional.
Also…still laughing at episode 132.
DCDGgirl 2022/02/16
Yoda guidance
Breaking down client focused firm life in a way that you instantly recognize yourself. They then give you the map forward.
GabeRuane 2021/05/22
Essential for agency principals
This is how smart you need to aspire to be.
CraigClan5 2021/04/17
Recent Binge Listener
Not only great advice but great banter
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