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Date created
2017/06/12
Latest episode
2025/12/18
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20 min.
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90 days
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How does artificial intelligence change when people — not profit — truly come first? Join IRL’s host Bridget Todd, as she meets people around the world building responsible alternatives to the tech that’s changing how we work, communicate, and even listen to music.
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Watching the Watchers
2025/12/18
Every day, AI-powered tools are used to watch our movements; what we post online, where we go, and what we like. Imagine if we could flip this reality to watch those in power and hold them accountable.
In this special bonus episode recorded live in November at Mozilla Festival in Barcelona, Bridget talks to two brilliant technologists about how AI can be used as a force for good to supercharge collective action, what it means to resist algorithmic oppression, build counter-narratives through data, and imagine AI that serves the public good.
Mozilla Festival is an annual gathering of artists, programmers, coders, and many others who want to build a better digital world for us humans.
Simona Levi is a theater director, techno political strategist and founder of Xnet, a Barcelona based activist network. Since 2018 she has been designing and co-directing the Postgraduate Course in Technopolitics and Rights in the Digital Era, first at the Pompeu Fabra University, then at the University of Barcelona.
Airi Dordas is a designer and social innovator who uses storytelling, data, and art to spark civic imagination. She’s with Domestic Data Streamers. Her current project, Synthetic Memories, explores how AI can help us preserve and reinterpret collective memory.
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Techish: The Tech Swindler
2025/08/19
Today, we’re bringing you an episode from our friends at Techish, a podcast by two tech founders and investors talking about all things tech, pop culture, and life. It's equal parts ChatGPT, equal parts Cardi B. Starring Michael Berhane and Abadesi Osunsade.
In this episode of Techish, hosts Michael Berhane and Abadesi Osunsade dive into the wild story of the tech con artist who is fooling Silicon Valley startups, exposing some big cracks in how the industry hires. They also break down the rise of AI addictions, the emotional pull of chatbots, and round off with Grammarly's acquisition of Superhuman.
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Decoding the Planet: From Whales to Whistleblowers
2025/07/08
AI may be able to talk to animals, but at what cost to the planet. Who is making those decisions, and why it matters. From decoding whale language to protecting our oceans from unchecked offshore drilling, Bridget Todd talks to visionaries seeking to preserve our beautiful, fragile world.
Holly Alpine left her job with Microsoft over the company’s role in providing fossil fuel companies with AI tools that could accelerate their production of oil and gas.
As the AI and climate lead at Hugging Face, a platform for sharing open-source AI models, Sasha Luccioni calls for more transparency from tech companies about how much energy it takes to power AI.
Aza Raskin, co-founder and president of the Earth Species Project, explains why using AI to decode animal communication could be the key to protecting our planet
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The Invisible Neighbor
2025/07/01
AI lives in my city, and probably yours too. What does it mean for our neighborhoods, the people in them, and where data lives? Host Bridget Todd looks at how AI is changing our neighborhoods and who is behind it. She meets people bringing hidden tech systems into the full view of citizens and decision makers.
Nat Palmer helped lead a campaign in Chicago to stop the city from using AI powered surveillance that brought armed police to their neighborhoods.
What will data storage look like in the future? Marina Otero Verzier is an architect and researcher from Spain who examines sustainable new designs for data storage, from your living room to outer space.
Linda Dounia Rebeiz is an artist in Dakar, Senegal who didn’t like what she saw when she prompted generative AI to show her what her home city looks like. So she built her own training dataset.
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Our Heads in the Cloud
2025/06/24
There are some good reasons to let AI into our brains. But how much do we know about the privacy of brain data? Host Bridget Todd explores how AI is interacting with our thoughts, memories and (dis)abilities, and what it all means for brain privacy.
Ian Burkhart had an experimental brain implant that allowed him to move his hand and fingers after he was paralyzed in an accident. Now Ian leads a coalition to help others have the same opportunity.
Maria Paz Canales is a digital rights advocate who argues against creating a new set of rights focused solely on the privacy of brain data.
Pau Aleikum Garcia, co-founder of Domestic Data Streamers, uses generative AI to help people preserve their core memories.
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We Found Love in an AI Place
2025/06/17
Will my new AI boyfriend be a green flag? Bridget Todd explores how encounters of love and sex are secretly shaped by data and algorithms.
Love is intimate. It’s private. It’s human. So naturally tech companies see it as a money-maker. Host Bridget Todd uncovers the algorithmic racism and bias built into most popular dating apps, and meets the people who are coming up with better alternatives.
Apryl Williams interviewed more than 100 dating app users for her book Not My Type: Automating Sexual Racism in Online Dating and learned a lot about race-based discrimination in dating algorithms.
After he was diagnosed with Autism and ADHD early in the pandemic, Jamie Johnston founded Mattr, a dating app where neurodiversity is celebrated and people have a less addictive algorithmic dating experience.
Jen Caltrider led Mozilla's Mozilla's Online Product Reviews. She reviewed the privacy policies of dozens of dating apps and love robots and concluded this is an industry of spyware for our most intimate thoughts.
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We're Back! IRL Season 8: AI and Us
2025/06/10
Bridget Todd is on a journey to find out how AI affects us on a personal level. From her love life to her city, to the privacy of her memories, Bridget digs deep to uncover the relationship between us and AI. She talks to people who question the status quo, and pour their hearts into shaping AI that will change our lives without invading our privacy.
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Mozilla’s IRL podcast is a Shorty Awards finalist - we need your help to win!
2024/04/19
We’re excited to share that Mozilla's IRL podcast is a Shorty Awards finalist in the Science and Technology Podcast category! If you enjoy IRL you can show your support by voting for us.
The Shorty Awards recognizes great content by brands, agencies and nonprofits. It’s really an honor to be able to feature the voices and stories of the folks who are putting people over profit in AI. A Shorty Award will help bring these stories to even more listeners.
How to vote
1. Go to mzl.la/shorty
2. Click 'Vote in Science and Technology Podcast'
3. create a username and password (it's easy, we promise!)
4. Come back and vote every day until April 30th
We believe putting people over profit is award-worthy. Don’t you? Thanks for your support!
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The Art of AI
2023/12/05
From Hollywood to Hip Hop, artists are negotiating new boundaries of consent for use of AI in the creative industries. Bridget Todd speaks to artists who are pushing the boundaries.
It’s not the first time artists have been squeezed, but generative AI presents new dilemmas. In this episode: a member of the AI working group of the Hollywood writers union; a singer who licenses the use of her voice to others; an emcee and professor of Black music; and an AI music company charting a different path.
Van Robichaux is a comedy writer in Los Angeles who helped craft the Writers Guild of America’s proposals on managing AI in the entertainment industry.
Holly Herndon is a Berlin-based artist and a computer scientist who has developed “Holly +”, a series of deep fake music tools for making music with Holly’s voice.
Enongo Lumumba-Kasongo creates video games and studies the intersection between AI and Hip Hop at Brown University. Her alias as a rapper is Sammus.
Rory Kenny is co-founder and CEO of Loudly, an AI music generator platform that employs musicians to train their AI instead of scraping music from the internet.
*Thank you to Sammus for sharing her track ‘1080p.’ Visit Sammus’ Bandcamp page to hear the full track and check out more of her songs.*
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Lend Me Your Voice
2023/11/21
Big tech’s power over language, means power over people. Bridget Todd talks to AI community leaders paving the way for open voice tech in their own languages and dialects.
In this episode: AI builders and researchers in the US, Kenya and New Zealand who say the languages computers learn to recognize today will be the ones that survive tomorrow — as long as communities and local startups can defend their data rights from big AI companies.
Halcyon Lawrence was an Associate Professor of Technical Communication and Information Design at Towson University in Maryland (via Trinidad and Tobago) who did everything Alexa told her to for a year.*
Keoni Mahelona is a leader of Indigenous data rights and chief technology officer of Te Hiku Media, a Māori community media network with 21 local radio stations in New Zealand.
Kathleen Siminyu is an AI grassroots community leader in Kenya and a machine learning fellow with Mozilla’s Common Voice working on Kiswahili voice projects.
IRL: Online Life is Real Life is an original podcast from Mozilla, the non-profit behind Firefox. In Season 7, host Bridget Todd talks to AI builders that put people ahead of profit.
*Sadly, following the recording of this episode, Dr. Halcyon Lawrence passed away. We are glad to have met her and pay tribute to her legacy as a researcher and educator. Thank you, Halcyon.
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Crash Test Dummies
2023/11/07
Why does it so often feel like we’re part of a mass AI experiment? What is the responsible way to test new technologies? Bridget Todd explores what it means to live with unproven AI systems that impact millions of people as they roll out across public life.
In this episode: a visit to San Francisco, a major hub for automated vehicle testing; an exposé of a flawed welfare fraud prediction algorithm in a Dutch city; a look at how companies comply with regulations in practice; and how to inspire alternative values for tomorrow’s AI.
Julia Friedlander is senior manager for automated driving policy at San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency who wants to see AVs regulated based on safety performance data.
Justin-Casimir Braun is a data journalist at Lighthouse Reports who is investigating suspect algorithms for predicting welfare fraud across Europe.
Navrina Singh is the founder and CEO of Credo AI, a platform that guides enterprises on how to ‘govern’ their AI responsibly in practice.
Suresh Venkatasubramanian is the director of the Center for Technological Responsibility, Reimagination, and Redesign at Brown University and he brings joy to computer science.
IRL is an original podcast from Mozilla, the non-profit behind Firefox. In Season 7, host Bridget Todd shares stories about prioritizing people over profit in the context of AI.
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The Humans in the Machine
2023/10/24
They’re the essential workers of AI — yet mostly invisible and exploited. Does it have to be this way? Bridget Todd talks to data workers and entrepreneurs pushing for change.
Millions of people work on data used to train AI behind the scenes. Often, they are underpaid and even traumatized by what they see. In this episode: a company charting a different path; a litigator holding big tech accountable; and data workers organizing for better conditions.
Thank you to Foxglove and Superrr for sharing recordings from the the Content Moderators Summit in Nairobi, Kenya in May, 2023.
Richard Mathenge helped establish a union for content moderators after surviving a traumatic experience as a contractor in Kenya training Open AI’s ChatGPT.
Mercy Mutemi is a litigator for digital rights in Kenya who has issued challenges to some of the biggest global tech companies on behalf of hundreds of data workers.
Krista Pawloski is a full time data worker on Amazon’s Mechanical Turk platform and is an organizer with the worker-led advocacy group, Turkopticon.
Safiya Husain is the co-founder of Karya, a company in India with an alternative business model to compensate data workers at rates that reflect the high value of the data.
IRL: Online Life is Real Life is an original podcast from Mozilla, the non-profit behind Firefox. In Season 7, host Bridget Todd talks to AI builders that put people ahead of profit.
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With AIs Wide Open
2023/10/10
Are today’s large language models too hot to handle? Bridget Todd digs into the risks and rewards of open sourcing the tech that makes ChatGPT talk.
In their competitive rush to release powerful LLMs to the world, tech companies are fueling a controversy about what should and shouldn’t be open in generative AI.
In this episode, we meet open source research communities who have stepped up to develop more responsible machine learning alternatives.
David Evan Harris worked at Meta to make AI more responsible and now shares his concerns about the risks of open large language models for disinformation and more.
Abeba Birhane is a Mozilla advisor and cognitive scientist who calls for openness to facilitate independent audits of large datasets sourced from the internet.
Sasha Luccioni is a researcher and climate lead at Hugging Face who says open source communities are key to developing ethical and sustainable machine learning.
Andriy Mulyar is co-founder and CTO of Nomic, the startup behind the open source chatbot GPT4All, an offline and private alternative to ChatGPT.
IRL: Online Life is Real Life is an original podcast from Mozilla, the non-profit behind Firefox. In Season 7, host Bridget Todd talks to AI builders that put people ahead of profit.
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We’re Back! IRL Season 7: People Over Profit
2023/09/26
This season, IRL host Bridget Todd meets people who are balancing the upsides of artificial intelligence with the downsides that are coming into view worldwide.
Stay tuned for the first of five biweekly episodes on October 10! IRL is an original podcast from the non-profit Mozilla.
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The Tech We Won’t Build
2022/07/18
Where should tech builders draw the line on AI for military or surveillance? Just because it can be built, doesn’t mean it should be. At what point do we blow the whistle, call out the boss, and tell the world? Find out what it’s like to sound the alarm from inside a big tech company.
Laura Nolan shares the story behind her decision to leave Google in 2018 over their involvement in Project Maven, a Pentagon project which used AI by Google.
Yves Moreau explains why he is calling on academic journals and international publishers to retract papers that use facial recognition and DNA profiling of minority groups.
Yeshimabeit Milner describes how the non-profit Data for Black Lives is pushing back against use of AI powered tools used to surveil and criminalize Black and Brown communities.
Shmyla Khan, describes being on the receiving end of technologies developed by foreign superpowers as a researcher with the Digital Rights Foundation in Pakistan.
IRL is an original podcast from Mozilla, the non-profit behind Firefox. In Season 6, host Bridget Todd shares stories of people who make AI more trustworthy in real life. This season doubles as Mozilla’s 2022 Internet Health Report. Go to the report for show notes, transcripts, and more.
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Zakktheripper 2025/01/28
Required listening
Since you are reading this, AI is a risk to you and you should listen to this series. It is extremely important that everyone recognizes the privacy t...
Jupiternames 2022/07/05
IRL is back?!
I’ve been missing this podcast and all the good privacy advice it offers. Now I hear that they have a new season coming out with Bridget Todd hosting....
カーミットの神 2020/02/02
Need more
Essential listening for the privacy wonks, of the sort who use Firefox as their browser. It’s a good fit for a tech-skeptic like me, and a complement ...
Fabian.Cloud 2019/10/30
The very best in tech/life
Unique and compelling information that will leave you craving for more. It balances so well the relationship between technology and everyday life, how...
Cueldo 2019/09/24
IRL is entertaining, informative, and slightly addictive
Every episode leaves me compelled to dig in even deeper to the topics discussed. Manoush is absolutely fantastic. Thanks Firefox and Mozilla! Keep it ...
roster_8 2019/08/06
IRL
Excellent!
curious!?! 2019/04/06
Simple connection
I am just a regular every day person, I am far behind the regular, I don’t want to lose data in other ways. I already hate google and have added Firef...
cider-fan 2019/02/06
Great resource
Really love their insights and helping me navigate the virtual/real world. Seems questions I’ve always wondered about keep getting answered here - unc...
CalMillner 2019/01/19
Too surface-level and one-sided
The idea behind this podcast is sound and comes from an organization that has a pretty good reputation for supporting their ideas. But there is way to...
SttKilda 2019/01/19
Worth Your Time
I just started listening with Season 4 but I'm really enjoying the podcast. I learn something valuable each and every episode. Manoush is the best!
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