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The Roof Pervs got together at Firemanship 2026 this past July to talk shop. In this episode, Rob and William sit down with Jason Joannides of Soda City Fire Training, Andrew Pristach of Tradesman Fire & Fabrication, and Terry Hughes of Truck Syndicate to talk about acquired structure training and other truck-related business. Enjoy !!

The Roof Pervs got together at Firemanship 2025 this past July to talk shop. In this episode, Rob and William talk building construction and operations with Mikey Torres, Clay Magee, Daniel “Chunk” Nelms, and Corley Moore. Enjoy !!

The Roof Pervs got together at Firemanship 2024 in Aurora, IL to talk shop. In this episode we introduce a new member to the Pervs, Barry Franchi. Of course we talk shop…building construction, roofs and roof operations. Enjoy !!

The much fabled Perv Cast, recorded live at Firemanship Conference PDX 2020, finally sees the light of day!

“It’s worth spending your own money on outside training. It’s worth your time. Why wouldn’t you want to work on yourself?” Scott Hewlett is a firefighter in Ontario, Canada, with over two decades of experience. Scott is also the host of the excellent Multiple Calls Podcast. Multiple Calls Podcast Brampton Fire & Emergency Services Peer Support Facebook Books: 365 Dao The Gulag Archipelago Guns, Germs, and Steel Episode 20: Scott Hewlett Refined By Fire Download

“I have like fifty things I'm working on right now. And it has nothing to do with, 'I'm better than you'. It has everything to do with me sucking, and just trying to get better." Episode 999(?): Adam Maiers Refined By Fire Download

“You wanna make the job safer? Train more.” Shannon Stone is a twenty-nine year fire service veteran. After eleven years as a Battalion Chief in Fort Walton Beach, FL, Chief Stone will soon be moving into a Deputy Chief of Operations position at nearby Midway Fire District. Shannon teaches often with County Fire Tactics, is a founder of 850 Fireman, and has presented around the country. Along with with brother, DJ, he’s unveiling an exciting new class called Anatomy of a Rescue at FDIC 2020. Chief Stone drops an immense amount of thought-provoking and actionable wisdom in this talk. If you ever intend to operate in a leadership position, this episode is for you! Episode 18: Shannon Stone Refined By Fire Download

“The convergence of tactical knowledge and construction knowledge determines competency.” Another joint podcast between RBF and The Built Environment, which can be found on Fire Engineering Blog Talk Radio. Roof Perv Facebook page Episode 17: The Roof Pervs, Part Deux Refined By Fire Download

“Hard work fixes everything.” Brotherhood in Training Books: The Combat Position Extreme Ownership Episode 16: Frank Beauvais and Eric Haskins Refined By Fire Download

“You guys are in the middle of it. You're the front lines.” Dr. Graham Peaslee is a Professor of Experimental Nuclear Physics at University of Notre Dame. His current research project studies the quantity and persistence of PFAs contained in firefighter turnout gear. Your Turnout Gear and PFOA Facebook Last Call Foundation Episode 15: Dr. Graham Peaslee Refined By Fire Download

“There’s no advanced-level training. There’s only advanced-level performance.” Our guest for Episode 14 of Refined By Fire podcast is Jim McCormack of the Indianapolis Fire Department and the founder of Fire Department Training Network. I have to be real with you guys. I’m kind of freaking out over this one. Jim is a wealth of knowledge with a pedigree as good as any, and he took the time to get deep into the weeds with me in discussions about training and skill acquisition. What an incredible privilege it was to have this talk with Jim, and to be able to share it with everyone. Links: FDTN (you should get a membership!) My Facebook post re: skill acquisition Emmanuel Fried’s Fireground Tactics William Clark’s Firefighting Principles and Practices A remembrance of Jim’s father, “Big Ed” McCormack Episode 14: Jim McCormack Refined By Fire Download

“Would you want you rescuing you?” Episode 13 of Refined By Fire podcast featured Tom Johnson and John Spera of Fit to Fight Fire. Fit to Fight Fire is a website and platform that Tom and John use to motivate and educate firefighters in the realm of training and fitness. Fit to Fight Fire also produces a podcast, Lead Yourself, where this interview can also be found. Reading links: The Mission, The Men, and Me by Pete Blaber (Tom) Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin (Tom) A Million Miles in a Thousand Years by Donald Miller (Stephen) 1 Corinthians 9:25-27 (John) ----------------------------------- This podcast features the song “Spray Paint it Gold”, by Little Glass Men, available under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Episode 13: Fit to Fight Fire Refined by Fire Download

“I’ve always been a big believer that the fire department is there to give people hope.” Episode 12 Chris Brennan Refined By Fire Download

“Man, you just gotta go inside and look underneath it….” Episode 11: The Roof Pervs Refined By Fire Download

"I may not go to a lot of fires, but I've never wasted one." Episode 10: Brian Olson Refined By Fire Download