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John makes sermon illustrations about soda and hosts a Santa convention at the church. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells the story of Elmo testifying before Congress and wonders if police dogs know that they're cops. Plus, a conversation about mercy and sin—and why our perspective of how God sees us is so important. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Rainbows: "We just escaped from prism." FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John can't find the remote until he finds his glasses and defends his love of McDonald's. Meanwhile, Jonnie feels old after a conversation with a young comedian and tells the story of the time Winnie the Pooh went on trial for assault in the 80’s. Plus, a conversation about the late great author and theologian Brennan Manning and what it means to be a "Ragamuffin.”  Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Black Licorice: "For people who love candy, but hate themselves.” FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John prepares for his "Super Bowl" and adds a middle initial to his books. Meanwhile Jonnie channels his inner Chris Farley for a church skit and tells the tale of the Spaghetti Tree Hoax. Plus, a conversation about love and the gospel—and why how we present it shows whether or not we really have it. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Air Travel: "Soar through the clouds like a bird (but only after you wait in this line for two hours and we rummage through your bags)!"   FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John dreams of a month-long train ride and tries not to embarrass himself in front of a Christian music legend. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets a flat tire in the weirdest way possible and reveals the strange history of Super Glue. Plus, a conversation about humility and how we are being shaped by the difficulties in our lives. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Best Western Hotels: “If we are the best, can you imagine how bad the worst is?”   FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John wishes his girls would get ready faster and writes a children's book about a fish. Meanwhile, Jonnie think March has the most violent holidays, and reveals why he never liked The Power Team.  Plus, a conversation about how we think God sees us and why it really matters. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Android phones: "Turning your text threads green since 2008.”  FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John rents a haunted AirBnB and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, Jonnie tries to be a better listener and discovers the terrifying reason he likes hotel pillows. Plus, a conversation about what real leadership is… and what it isn't. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Sliced Bread: "It's the best thing since…bread."   FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John has no idea how ice hockey works and ponders if a cat could get elected mayor. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders if a big butt helps you or hurts you with a hula hoop and tells the creepy story of the first chiropractor. Plus, a conversation about oversimplification and why critical thinking is more rare than ever. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Stools: "When you need to sit down, but also want lower back pain."   FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John tries to sneak a knife onto a plane and aims fireworks at his friends. Meanwhile, Jonnie meets Tim Tebow and tells the story of the time the Pope influenced an entire generation to sip the "Devils Drink.”  Plus, a conversation about looking for the good in the world and getting more vulnerable with age. Today's Episode is NOT sponsored by Bananas: "Deliciously ripe for exactly fifteen minutes." FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Today on Talk About That, John opts out of the Multiverse and goes full "Analog Dad Mode" on a road trip. Meanwhile, Jonnie can't slow down on skis and tells us about the time a cow was milked in mid-air. Plus, a conversation about healthy boundaries and how most people don't come to God until they come to the end of themselves. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by KitKat: "You don't need a candy bar. You need four tiny candy bars.” FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John learns the difference between further and farther, and tells us "how the sausage is made". Meanwhile, Jonnie visits a town with the strangest monument ever and gets invited to a pro wrestling event in Texas. Plus, a conversation about skepticism, doubt, and the death of expertise. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Low Carb Chocolates: "This Valentine's Day, tell your spouse 'Hey, I know you love chocolate, but I never really cared for you'."   FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John preaches in a beanie and finds a luxurious toilet. Meanwhile, Jonnie almost shatters his windshield, and argues against the need for trees. Plus, a conversation about prayer & lamentation and why it's less about changing God's mind and more about changing our mindset about God. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by The Snooze Button: "Go ahead, hit it. You'll have other jobs.”   FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John wonders if trees are weaker in the South and prepares for Y2K with his dad. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders getting a taser and thinks Groucho Marx would've loved the new "6-7" craze. Plus, a conversation about the sins that upset humans the most, and whether they are the ones God is focused on. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Spaghetti Sauce: "Staining Your Tupperware Containers Since 1946."   FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John has extreme generator FOMO as the big winter storm approaches and hopes his robot bed doesn't become self aware. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets bougie in the movie theater and tells us about the time two nuclear bombs were accidentally dropped on North Carolina. Plus, a conversation about life, death, and the legacy we hope to leave in between.Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Snow Skiing: "The most thrilling and expensive way to break your leg.” FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John flies on a private jet and gets ignored by young people. Meanwhile, Jonnie uses two high schoolers as his opening act and invents a historical new drink. Plus, a conversation about Rage Bait and why politics can never bring us true freedom. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Sally's Seashell Shop: "We're right down by the seashore, which in retrospect was a poor choice of location." FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

John listens to one of his daughter's favorite podcasts and ponders why someone would want to buy Hitler's old car. Meanwhile, Jonnie resolves to be mediocre in 2026 and tells us how both President Bushes had embarrassing moments exactly 10 years apart. Plus, a conversation about not losing hope when a season of life ends, and the importance of trusting God. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by DoorDash: "This burger is cold, but at least it also cost $57." FOLLOW Jonnie W: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, SEND MESSAGE, OR SUPPORT at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.