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2017/12/12
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2026/07/06
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31 min.
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Stories about the ins, outs, and whathaveyous of what keeps us safe. Hosted by Laicie Heeley.

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When the Emergency Never Ends
2026/07/06
Germany's internal border checks were supposed to be temporary. Introduced in 2015 as an emergency response, they've now become a familiar part of daily life across much of Europe. Reporter Sam Baker travels to Germany's borders with France and the Netherlands, where commuters sit in traffic, businesses absorb mounting costs, and local leaders question whether the checkpoints make anyone safer. Along the way, she meets journalist Sandra Alloush, whose experience at one of these border checks changed the way she moves through Europe, and explores why a policy that many acknowledge has significant limits continues to expand. The story raises a larger question: What happens when democracies begin governing through permanent emergencies? And what does it mean when extraordinary powers become ordinary? Guests: Wolfram Britz, Mayor of Kehl, Germany Maartje van der Woude, Professor of Law and Society at Leiden University Sandra Alloush, journalist, filmmaker, and advocate for refugee rights Lucien van Ryswijk, Mayor of Zevenaar Raquel Garcia Hermida van der Walle, Member of the European Parliament Additional Resources:  History of Schengen, European Commission Racial Profiling Practices at EU Internal Borders, European Network Against Racism (ENAR) and the Platform for International Cooperation on Undocumented Migrants (PICUM)
When Every Country Is an Emergency
2026/06/22
Ah Long spent years building a life in Shanghai. Then the pandemic arrived. China's Zero-COVID policy cost him his job, his relationship, and eventually his faith that he could build a future there. So he did something almost unimaginable: he set out alone for the United States, crossing the Darién Gap, surviving robberies, and surrendering at the US-Mexico border to seek asylum. But by the time he arrived, America had changed, too. In this episode, reporter Aria Young follows Ah Long's extraordinary journey from China to New York and examines how both Beijing and Washington have turned to the language of emergency to expand executive power. The story asks a larger question: when governments rule through crisis, what happens to the people caught between? Guests: Ah Long, Chinese asylum seeker living in New York Rory Truex, Associate Professor of Politics and International Affairs at Princeton University Rev. Mike Chan, Executive Director of Ministries in New York at Chinese Christian Herald Crusade Additional Resources:  Crossing the Darién Gap: Migrants Risk Death on the Journey to the US, Diana Roy and Sabine Baumgartner, Council on Foreign Relations  Deportation Data Project A Study of Chinese Law on Restricting Personal Liberty for Public Health Protection: Taking the COVID-19 Epidemic as the Entry Point, Tengfei Liu and Zhongwu Ma, Frontiers in Public Health
The Soldiers Who Became Clowns
2026/06/08
A few hours outside Bogotá, a giant yellow circus tent rises above the countryside. Inside, families laugh at clowns, gasp at acrobats, and cheer for trapeze artists soaring overhead. The performers are all members of the Colombian military. For more than three decades, Circo Colombia has sent active-duty soldiers across the country to perform for communities, many of them in regions shaped by decades of armed conflict. Military officials say the circus builds trust, provides entertainment, and offers a different face of the armed forces. But not everyone sees it that way. Some Colombians view the circus as a sophisticated public-relations project for an institution still grappling with allegations of corruption, violence, and abuses committed during the country's long civil conflict. Others argue the performances can blur the line between entertainment, recruitment, and intelligence gathering. Reporter Natalie Skowlund travels to the town of Supatá to step inside the tent and meet the people at the center of this unusual story: soldier-clowns, former military performers, circus historians, government officials, and audience members trying to make sense of what happens when the military puts on a show. In this episode: Why Colombia has a military circus, what it reveals about the country's relationship with war and memory, and how one former circus soldier came to see the circus not as a tool of the military, but as a path to freedom. Guests: Professional Soldier Luís Javier Cardenas, clown and trapeze artist with Circo ColombiaFranci Guzmán and Ana Pinzón, audience members at Circo Colombia show in Supatá, ColombiaRosa Elena González Moreno, Colombian Ministry of Culture Circus Program CoordinatorJonathan Hernández, professional circus artist and former soldier performer with Circo ColombiaOlga Lucía Sorzano, PhD, Colombian circus scholar and director of Artemotion Additional Resources: A Spanish-language report on the history of circus in Colombia. Tatan's Instagram account. Colombia's military circus, live, in the AP archive.
Safe Enough
2026/05/25
After a Norfolk Southern train carrying toxic chemicals derailed in East Palestine, Ohio, residents were told the air was safe and the situation was under control. But for many people living there, the emergency never really ended. In this episode, East Palestine resident and Rail Watch founder Jess Conard takes us inside the chaos and confusion of the derailment’s aftermath: shifting evacuation zones, lingering chemical smells, chronic health problems, and the exhausting burden of trying to prove harm after disaster strikes. But this story isn’t just about one train derailment. It’s about what actually counts as an emergency in the eyes of the federal government — and what kind of response that label unlocks. As Congress routinely moves billions of dollars quickly and flexibly for war and national security priorities, communities impacted by industrial disaster often struggle to access long-term healthcare, environmental testing, or meaningful support. Through conversations with budget experts Steve Ellis and Julia Gledhill, this episode examines how emergency spending works, how “urgent” becomes a political category, and what those choices reveal about whose suffering matters. Because emergencies don’t just expose broken systems. They expose what those systems were built to protect. Guests: Jess Conard, founder and executive director of Rail WatchSteve Ellis, president of Taxpayers for Common SenseJulia Gledhill, research analyst at the Stimson Center Additional Resources:  Rail Watch The Ghost Budget: US War Spending & Fiscal Transparency, Linda J. Bilmes, MIT Press Direct The United States Is Self-Destructing Amid Empire Collapse, Julia Gledhill, The Nation Defense Divided: Overcoming the Challenges of Overseas Contingency Operations, Laicie Heeley and Anna Wheeler, Stimson Center
Coming Soon: Living in the Emergency
2026/05/11
Wars. Raids. Climate disasters. Political violence. Economic shocks. Surveillance. States of emergency that never seem to end. We live through them all while still trying to get dinner on the table, make rent, raise kids, and imagine a future. This season, Living in the Emergency follows people navigating a world shaped by permanent urgency — and examines who benefits when fear, instability, and crisis become the organizing logic of everyday life. From emergency spending… to military spectacle… to disasters whose consequences linger long after the cameras leave… this season explores how emergencies reshape communities, politics, and the boundaries of what we learn to accept. Hosted by Laicie Heeley, Things That Go Boom returns on May 25th with reported, narrative-driven stories about the systems and decisions hiding inside the chaos. Because this isn’t one crisis. It’s a condition. Subscribe to Things That Go Boom wherever you get your podcasts.
Converting the War Economy
2025/12/15
A quick note: Independent journalism like Things That Go Boom only exists because of listener support. And right now, Newsmatch is doubling all donations — making it a powerful moment to give. If you love our show (and we hope you do!) consider making a tax-deductible contribution today. 👉 https://inkstickmedia.com/donate/ Enjoy the show! For decades, the US economy has been deeply intertwined with war-making — from Cold War-era aerospace and nuclear weapons to today’s AI-driven military technologies. But this wasn’t always seen as inevitable. In the 1970s and ’80s, organizers built unlikely coalitions across the peace, labor, civil rights, and faith movements to challenge military spending and push for an economy that served people instead of perpetual war. Their work helped popularize the idea of economic conversion: redirecting public resources away from weapons production and toward jobs that meet human needs. In this episode, we revisit that history — and ask what it can teach us now. As communities organize against new defense-tech projects and local governments continue to subsidize weapons manufacturers, activists are once again grappling with how to confront the war economy — and what a more just, peaceful alternative could look like. This is the final episode of our season, MIC Drop, reporting on how the military-industrial complex shapes local economies — and how communities are organizing in response. Guests:  Dr. David Cortright, former Executive Director of SANE; Larry Frank, former Development Director for Jobs with Peace LA; Nathan Kim, Graduate Research Associate at DAIR Additional Resources: Cortright v. Resor Reenactment and details about the Waging Peace event at George Washington University UCLA: Memory Work Los Angeles project on Jobs with Peace Recording of the 1982 Central Park Rally  Brown University Costs of War Project
Inside the Campaign to Block Israel’s War Ships
2025/12/01
As violence continues in Gaza, a new strategy inside the Palestine solidarity movement is taking shape — one aimed not at city streets or college campuses, but at the arteries of the global economy. Around the world, dockworkers have refused to unload ships tied to Israel’s military supply chain. In Italy, Morocco, India, and Sweden, those refusals have sparked national strikes and port shutdowns. But in the United States — where 70% of Israel’s weapons originate — things look very different. This episode dives into the complicated reality facing American activists trying to “block the boat”: a divided labor movement, powerful unions with clashing politics, and a military-industrial complex that shields its most sensitive logistics behind military bases and Air Force cargo planes. We meet East Coast organizers struggling to reach conservative longshore workers, West Coast veterans who once helped stop South African apartheid cargo, and the researchers studying how social-movement unionism succeeds — and fails. What power do workers really have to stop the flow of war? And what happens when activists push that power to its limits? Guests:  Tova Fry, organizer and activist with Port Workers & Communities for PalestineKaty Fox-Hodess, Senior Lecturer at the University of SheffieldRafeef Ziadah, Senior Lecturer at Kings CollegeLara Kiswani, Executive Director of the Arab Resource & Organizing CenterClarence Thomas, retired dock worker at ILWU Local 10Charmaine Chua, Acting Associate Professor of Geography at the University of California, Berkeley Additional Resources:  Community picket lines and social movement unionism on the US docks, 2014–2021: Organizing lessons from the Block the Boat campaign for Palestine, Katy Fox-Hodess and Rafeef Ziadah, Critical Sociology Reds or Rackets? The Making of Radical and Conservative Unions on the Waterfront, Howard Kimeldorf This Union Is Famous for Opposing South African Apartheid. Now It’s Standing With Gaza., Sarah Lazare, The Nation Dockworker Power: Race and Activism in Durban and the San Francisco Bay Area, Peter Cole
Fighterland, USA
2025/11/17
For a century, the weapons industry has helped shape St. Louis — from the McDonnell Douglas fighters that once symbolized American air power to Boeing’s sprawling factories today. But when thousands of machinists walked off the job this year, something cracked in “Fighterland, USA.” In this episode, we head to the picket line to hear from the workers who build America’s bombs and jets — those struggling to afford rent, groceries, and daycare while assembling weapons worth more than their annual salaries. Reporter Sophie Hurwitz takes us inside a city reckoning with its identity: Can St. Louis really become the “Silicon Valley of defense” when the jobs it’s banking on are shrinking? What happens when an economy built on war no longer guarantees stability? And what does labor power look like in an industry whose products help shape conflicts worldwide? While some in town are fighting to keep defense dollars flowing, others want St. Louis to imagine a different future. This is the story of a strike, a city, and a century-long relationship with the military-industrial complex now reaching its breaking point. Guests:  Sophie Hurwitz, Reporting Fellow, Inkstick Media; Breanna Donnell, Rick Perdue, Mason, and other Boeing Machinists; Stephen Quackenbush, Professor and Director of Defense and Strategic Studies, University of Missouri; Maxi Glamour, 3rd Ward Committeeperson, St. Louis Additional Resources:  “How One Dissenter Left Boeing,” Sophie Hurwitz, Inkstick Media  “The Year Arms Contractors Stopped Supporting Pride,” Sophie Hurwitz, Inkstick Media
Under the Bridge, Over the Line
2025/11/03
San Diego’s Barrio Logan is a place defined by both proximity and resistance — pressed against naval shipyards, fenced in by freeways, and crowned by the Coronado Bridge. For decades, the community has lived with the noise, the pollution, and the promises that never quite came true. When the USS Bonhomme Richard went up in flames in 2020, the Navy said there was “nothing toxic in the smoke.” Residents knew better. It was just the latest chapter in a long story of damage left unresolved — one that began when the waterfront was seized for the war effort and continued through decades of rezoning fights, health crises, and a ballot-box battle that pitted neighbors against the city’s most powerful industry. In this episode, Things That Go Boom travels to San Diego to ask: what does it mean to live — and keep fighting — in the shadow of the military’s hometown? Featuring voices from across the neighborhood, we trace how a community beneath the bridge built its own language of survival. GUESTS: Dr. Alberto López Pulido, Professor of Ethnic Studies, University of San Diego; Brent Beltrán, Publisher, Calaca Press; community activist; Ramón “Mr. Ray” Fino, Vietnam veteran, lifelong Barrio Logan resident; Angel Garcia, Commander, VFW Post Don Diego 7420 ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Environmental Health Coalition: Barrio Logan Community Plan Chicano Park Museum: Logan Heights Archival Project Intersectional Health Project San Diego: Barrio Logan “Fallout From Trump’s EPA Cuts Includes Long-Sought Barrio Logan Park,” Philip Salata, inewsource
Gabriel Sanchez on Georgia, Tex-Mex, and Representing a District Built on Defense Jobs
2025/10/20
When 27-year-old Gabriel Sanchez won his Democratic primary in Smyrna, Georgia — home to a massive Lockheed Martin plant — few expected an outspoken anti-war socialist to carry a district built on defense jobs. But Sanchez has managed to do just that, working to push for better benefits, wages, and labor rights across the state. In this episode, we look at how he’s building bridges between anti-war ideals and pro-labor politics — and what his unlikely success might mean for the future of organizing in defense towns. We reached out to Lockheed Martin for comment before publication, and asked questions about the company's stance on Sanchez's legislative goals. The company responded with this statement: “We value our state and national elected officials and the support provided to the Marietta site and the C-130, an aircraft that has created economic growth and provided humanitarian and critical assistance around the globe. We also enjoy a strong partnership with the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers as the largest employer of union-represented workers in Cobb County.” GUEST: Gabriel Sanchez, Georgia State Representative ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Jonathan Chang and Meghna Chakrabarti, “'The last supper': How a 1993 Pentagon dinner reshaped the defense industry,” WBUR’s On Point Taylor Barnes, “Meet the democratic socialist winning in a Lockheed town,” Inkstick Media Michelle Baruchman, “Only socialist in legislature beat expectations,” Atlanta Journal-Constitution (paywall)
Taser Town
2025/10/06
When a 77-year-old Vietnam vet and former city councilman takes on a luxury apartment development in Scottsdale, Arizona, it sounds like classic NIMBY politics. But this fight isn’t just about height limits or desert views — it’s about who gets to decide the future of a community. The developer, Axon, isn’t your average builder. It’s one of the most powerful policing tech companies in the world — the maker of tasers, body cameras, drones, and AI-driven surveillance systems now being used by police departments and border agencies across the country. As the fight over zoning unfolds, it exposes a deeper question about democracy in the age of data: when private companies control the tools of public safety, who’s really watching whom? From Scottsdale city hall to the Arizona statehouse, and from real-time crime centers to school surveillance systems, this episode traces how a battle over apartments reveals the hidden architecture of America’s growing surveillance state — and the quiet ways local democracy is being rewritten in its shadows. GUESTS: Bob Littlefield, Former Scottsdale City Council member; president of Taxpayers Against Awful Apartment Zoning Exemptions (TAAZE); Barry Friedman, Professor of Law at New York University; Susan Wood, Scottsdale resident and community activist; Betty Janik, Former Scottsdale City Council member; Detective Julie Smith, Peoria Police Department; Representative Alexander Kolodin, Arizona State Representative (R–District 3) ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:  The Policing Project, NYU Atlas of Surveillance, Electronic Frontier Foundation
Big Promises, Small Print
2025/09/22
Why do local governments keep handing out tax breaks to defense contractors… even when the promised jobs don’t materialize? In the first episode of our new season, reporter Taylor Barnes takes us deep into the Utah desert, where Northrop Grumman is building the next generation of intercontinental ballistic missiles with the help of massive state subsidies. But when she asked how many jobs those subsidies were supposed to create, officials redacted nearly everything. Then they got a lawyer. Then they rewrote the rules. This episode is about more than one company or one contract. It’s about what happens when state and local leaders subsidize secrecy, and when media systems — hollowed out by layoffs, ownership conflicts, and techno-fetishism — stop asking questions. From shady job tallies in Ohio to corporate influence on Capitol Hill to military ribbon cuttings reported without context, we examine how the war machine hides in plain sight. And we follow the reporters and local watchdogs still trying to uncover the truth. GUESTS: Taylor Barnes, Inkstick Media; Mary Vavrus, University of Minnesota ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Legal Moves, New Lobbyist Point to Northrop Grumman’s Influence in Utah, Taylor Barnes, Inkstick Media Utah Refuses to Share Details of Nuclear Weapons Plant Subsidy, Taylor Barnes, Inkstick Media
Trailer: MIC Drop
2025/09/15
Across the country — from DC to Los Angeles to Chicago — the military is more visible in daily life than it’s been in years. But behind the boots on the ground lies a much bigger system. One that puts grenade launchers in the hands of police, surveils our every step, and ships weapons overseas. And it's grown bigger and more powerful than ever before.  This season on Things That Go Boom, we trace the reach of the military-industrial complex: how decisions in Washington fuel a trillion-dollar industry, how that industry shapes our cities and neighborhoods, and how people on the ground are responding.
MAGA, Mahmoud Khalil, and the War for Free Speech on Campus
2025/03/31
Mahmoud Khalil became the face of Palestinian rights at Columbia University when the Syrian-born refugee refused to wear a mask and negotiated on behalf of the encampment with the University administration. Now the US wants to deport him using a deep-cut statute in the immigration act that gives the Secretary of State sweeping powers to decide who could have “adverse” foreign policy impacts on the United States. How did we get here? We trace the line back from Charlottesville in 2017 — from domestic extremists fighting on the streets to taking shots in the halls of power.  GUESTS: Joseph Howley, Associate Professor of Classics, Columbia University; Diala Shamas, Attorney, Center for Constitutional Rights; Chris Mathias, Author, “To Catch A Fascist” (forthcoming);  Ben Lorber, Senior Research Analyst, Political Research Associates ADDITIONAL RESOURCES:  Anti-Palestinian at the Core: The Origins and Growing Dangers of US Antiterrorism Law, Center for Constitutional Rights  A Letter From Palestinian Activist Mahmoud Khalil, ACLU
Hit Print for War
2025/03/17
If you live in the US, buying a gun can be as easy as going to Walmart. In countries with strict gun laws, such as most of Europe or Australia, you need a little more ingenuity. Although not that much more: since March of 2020, anyone with access to a cheap second-hand 3D printer and experience putting IKEA furniture together can do it. Does that mean the rest of us should start printing bunkers, presto? Or are we worried for nothing? Things That Go Boom travels to the mean streets of New York and the jungles of Myanmar to find out. GUESTS: Lizzie Dearden, British journalist specializing in the modern technology that offers criminals and terrorists new ways to operate; Frank Grosspietsch, Canadian expert and international consultant in all things ghost gun; Manny Maung, Burmese journalist and human rights expert; "Rebel Lion," Burmese rebel fighter resisting the military junta; and Brendan Baker, reading the English translation of Rebel Lion's BurmeseADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Rebel Lion's Facebook profile. Rap Against Junta, the Burmese resistance hip-hop collective making music denouncing the military junta. Lizzie Dearden's latest book, Plotters, about the terrorist plots you've never heard of because the perpetrators were caught in time.

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Wonderful shooter 2026/06/23
When Every country is a Emergency
I am the man who appeared in <When every country is is an Emergency >, listening the Voice with tears. I am incredibly grateful to the Boom team (espe...
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evmonk 2026/03/16
Brilliant podcast about war, power, and profit
Things That Go Boom is the best podcast I know about the military-industrial complex: smart, deeply reported, and incredibly good at explaining the ma...
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No bro this is bad 2025/01/08
Boo
Booo
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Umm yeah no thx 2025/01/08
Divisive
Used as a platform to promote social and racial justice, with strong political bias, particularly against former President Trump. Typical white, privi...
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Hezballer$$$ 2025/01/08
CIA
NATO lovers/spook suckers
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Good morning podcast 2024/05/29
Salut
Je suis un chat 🐈‍⬛
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Much Gratitude 🧜🏼‍♀️ 2024/02/16
Much gratitude!
Super grateful for all the clarity and creativity of this podcast. As a long-ago student of international relations, this one of my favorite national...
★★★★★
MiloTWiggins 2023/02/26
Real security
I love Lacie Harley’s comprehensive take on what yields security— not merely or principally armaments, national intelligence, and stern brows, but env...
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Engman19 2022/11/16
Smh
Started the series with getting ear screwed by hearing the host putting down former president Trump. What is with liberals? Does everything have to fu...
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jake3_14 2022/10/31
Bait and switch on season 3
The entirety of S3 ep. 1 focused on the disinformation ecosystem that's tearing down the trust on which democratic societies are built, and I was read...
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