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Wait a Second… is kicking off Terror Month with the most terrifying idea of all: nuclear annihilation. Following news last month that an AI chatbot nearly got us into a war with China, Jason and Tyler look back at the early-’80s incidents that nearly brought the Cold War to a boil. With the help of The Ringer’s Joel Anderson, they talk NORAD and real-life war games. Later, they break down the Tupac murder trial and conviction of Duane “Keefe D” Davis, which Joel wrote about on The Ringer last week. Today’s agenda: (00:00) The real-life ‘WarGames’ (02:39) Our guest today: Joel Anderson (04:00) Could AI accidentally start a war? (08:17) Setting the stage for a nuclear near-miss (26:17) The Cold War gets very, very close (39:13) The Soviet “Dead Hand” System (42:30) The Tupac murder verdict and the conspiracy theories (53:56) The LAPD, Keefe D, and the case against him (58:08) The American Idol Murder Case (01:03:17) A Bob Iger COVID conspiracy (01:06:59) Hackers breach the FBI. What did they want? (01:09:49) The mysterious Milwaukee “bad boy” sound Read Joel’s piece on the Keefe D verdict here: https://www.theringer.com/2026/09/23/music/tupac-shakur-murder-trial-keffe-d-davis-conviction-conspiracy-theories Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcast Email us: [email protected] Follow us on IG: @waitasecondpodcast Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Joel Anderson Producer: Justin Sayles Video editing: Jordan Satmary Engineering: Jason Arreola Social media: Paige Ransbury Thumbnail: Matt James Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason and Tyler are back and they're breaking down one of the most mysterious cases in American history: the murder of Lizzie Borden's parents. With the help of producer Justin, they look into the case against Lizzie, alternative suspects, and why the story was ripe for an adaptation in Ryan Murphy's Netflix series 'Monster.'Then, they look at one of the most messed-up cases they've seen recently: the R.C. Horsch investigation in Philadelphia. Are we looking at a serial killer situation? Today's agenda: (00:00) The grisly case of Christman of Kerpen (02:22) Lizzie Borden took an axe ... (10:26) The 90-minute gap. (14:08) Wouldn't it make a noise? (24:27) Let's talk about motive. (30:44) The Lizzie-Bridget theory. (39:11) So who did it? (55:35) One more thought on Bill James. (01:00:45) The Philadelphia house of horrors: What is happening here? (01:15:04) Doomscroll: The Florida plastic surgeon who defended himself. (01:22:39) We almost went to war with China ... because of a chatbot. (01:23:55) The Russian-backed murder plot we're obsessing over. (01:26:50) A new King Tut theory. Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerProducer: Justin SaylesVideo editing: Jordan SatmaryEngineering: Jason ArreolaSocial media: Paige RansburyThumbnail: Matt James Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Seems like a lot of you buy into the WTC Building 7 conspiracies. So, we’re diving back in. Jason and Tyler are joined by friend of the show Big Wos to break down your Building 7 comments, Osama Bin Laden theories, and more. Today’s agenda: 00:06: The 1977 Russian Embassy Fire 02:30: Our guest: Wosny Lambre 04:28: 9/11 memories 17:17: WTC Building 7, Revisited 44:42: Doomscroll: Don Jr.’s Big Fat Russian-Funded Wedding 49:29: The CIA gold bar guy is taking a plea? 52:34: Your Apple Watch doesn’t care about eavesdropping laws 55:10: The Heathrow disaster 57:18: Why are the military commissary freezers malfunctioning? 01:00:28: Ancient cannibalism update 01:02:26: The earliest signs of human drug use Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcast Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Producer: Justin Sayles and T Cruz Video editing: Jordan Satmary Engineering: Jon Jones and Jamie Yukich Social media: Paige Ransbury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s the silver anniversary of September 11, and Jason and Tyler are digging into two mysteries that endure to this day: the anthrax attacks and what really happened to WTC Building 7.Here’s their agenda:00:01: What’s missing from the 9/11 Commission Report?00:45: Today’s topic: September 11, a quarter-century later.05:12: Who really sent the anthrax letters?47:45: WTC Building 7: conspiracy or not?58:47: Doomscroll: OpenAI wants to slow down?!01:02:18: Saturn grew a decagon!01:04:02: Imagine you dig up a viking hoard …01:05:28: Your LG TV hears for you … maybe01:07:41: DK Metcalf, Dre Greenlaw, and the NFL’s sudden Antarctica fascinationFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcastHosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerProducers: T Cruz and Justin SaylesVideo editing: Jordan SatmaryEngineering: Sarah ReddySocial media: Paige Ransbury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason and Tyler are joined once again by co-host of The Watch and first-ballot Wait a Second... hall-of-famer, Chris Ryan. And they've got something scary to dig into: CIA Director John Ratcliffe's secret trip to Moscow and everything that's happened related to Russia since. Also on the agenda and slightly less scary (we hope): the island that disappeared.Here's today's rundown:(00:08) History Repeats: Kissinger's secret trip to Moscow(02:29) Our guest today: Chris Ryan(03:28) The Big Story: John Ratcliffe's secret trip to Russia(25:03) Are we equipped for the wars we're in?(28:23) Wait, an island disappeared?(31:08) Top 10 Disappearing, Reappearing, or Legendary Land Masses(40:50) The Doomscroll: Daniel Kinahan talk with CR(49:04) Hugging Face attack updates(59:37) And finally ... Daejon LoveFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcastHosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerGuest: Chris RyanProducers: T Cruz and Justin SaylesVideo editing: Marco Escalante and T CruzEngineering: Sarah ReddySocial media: Paige Ransbury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Buckle up: Conspiracy Bill is back. Bill Simmons joins the pod to surprise Jason and Tyler with the 12 stories that have had him doing deep dives. Here’s today’s agenda: 00:07: Stephen King’s alias 04:39: Bill Simmons’s alias: Conspiracy Bill 08:40: Conspiracy Bill’s 12 Deepest Dives of the Year 20:12: No. 12: Havana Syndrome 25:35: No. 11: The Fox News mask incident 29:44: No. 10: Epstein won the Powerball?! 31:37: No. 9: The Whitehouse Correspondents Dinner 35:51: No. 8: What happened at the Miami mall? 38:41: No. 7: The Niners substation situation 41:32: No. 6: Nancy Guthrie 43:24: No. 5: What’s up with Trump’s ear? His hand? 48:35: No. 4: The microphone … 48:35: No. 3: Missing scientists 54:36: No. 2: Matt Miller … or Karen Read 01:00:33 No. 1: The Lindsay Clancy case 01:10:25 Bonus round: Why did Mark Cuban sell the Mavs? Plus: JC’s Long Island serial killer theory. Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcastHosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerGuest: Bill SimmonsProducers: T Cruz and Justin SaylesVideo editing: Marco Escalante and T CruzEngineering: Jacob CornettSocial media: Paige Ransbury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Midnight Boy and very concerned Lakers fan Jomi Adeniran joins Jason and Tyler to break down an eventful—and suspicious—week in L.A. sports. First, they break down everything surrounding the Lakers sale (including the involvement of the alleged "good" Kushner) and the ongoing Buss family drama. Then, they look at the NBA's investigation into Kawhi Leonard and Steve Ballmer, which is reportedly nearing a conclusion. 02:48: Connecting all the dots on the Lakers Sale16:48: Adam Silver's role in this?29:25: The "good" Kushner31:30: The Buss family drama: Jeanie goes 20-v-142:46: Lakers GM Chris Paul?44:40: The latest on Kawhi57:25: The Pablo Torre of it all01:00:38: The Doomscroll: Bill Gates's daughter and cookie stuffing01:05:50: Evidence in the ice cream box01:09:30: Two origins of life on Earth?01:11:35: The Romans took tax fraud really seriously01:14:55: Military leave for 'GTA VI' Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcast Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler ParkerGuest: Jomi AdeniranProducers: T Cruz and Justin SaylesEngineering: Sarah ReddySocial media: Paige Ransbury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel joins the podcast to help break down the small-potato scenarios of AI run amok. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (7:15) Low-stakes AI scenarios (40:21) Trump’s catering truck escape (43:57) AI viruses (47:22) The missing Nicolas Cage movie (54:18) Ancient Chinese civilization (57:02) Italy’s cheese banks (59:21) Flock stalking (1:03:26) Iranian money laundering Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Charlie Warzel Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason and Tyler welcome back co-host of ‘The Press Box’, Bryan Curtis to review to tape and answer the question on the nation’s collective mind: does President Trump keep pooping himself?  In this episode: (00:00) Intro (6:25) Presidential health lies (19:37) Poop or the field? (44:19) Doomscroll: An AI slowdown? (52:47) Alleged NATO spy (54:39) eBay stalking scandal (58:11) Ancient Amazonian city found  Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Bryan Curtis Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris Ryan returns to help Jason and Tyler give the people what they want: cryptids! Inspired by Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey,’ they take a look at some of folklore’s most fantastical creatures. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (3:31) Cryptids in ‘The Odyssey’ (16:26) The goblin shark (19:55) The unidentified organism (22:38) The barreleye fish (23:20) New Loch Ness Monster sighting (25:25) Cryptids that’d be the best hang (40:19) Giant great white shark (42:02) Stories we’re keeping tabs on Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Chris Ryan Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason and Tyler are joined by cohost of The Ringer Fantasy Football Show Danny Heifetz to discuss allegations that China is fueling data center resistance. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (3:19) Roosevelt shot McKinley? (8:30) Chinese psyop causing data center hate? (40:38) Trump’s "Freedom Fuel" (53:47) The Doomscroll: Taylor Farms (58:09) Police buying Israeli spy vans (1:00:07) Meta targeting employees? (1:03:49) The Center for Intellectual Freedom (1:07:05) Jimothy the raccoon Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Danny Heifetz Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Additional support: Dae Shik Kim Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Former national security adviser and cohost of Pod Save the World Ben Rhodes joins to discuss the conspiracy of an informal agreement between superpowers to stay out of each other’s spheres. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (3:15) Spheres of influence (21:55) Marco Rubio running Venezuela? (29:11) Let’s talk about drones (38:45) Ben Rhodes’s top conspiracies (43:59) Tips for the paranoid (48:58) The death of Lindsey Graham (51:42) Terrorists and AI (54:20) Waymo calls police on teens (55:46) The MSG celebrity “risk” list (1:00:00) Zara’s dangerous pants Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Ben Rhodes Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Additional support: Dae Shik Kim Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason and Tyler welcome Anthony Dabbundo, cohost of The Ringer Gambling Show, to discuss the latest in a long string of controversies involving the governing body of football. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (4:19) Is the World Cup rigged? (13:49) Is corruption affecting the matches? (23:30) What’s the answer? (29:55) Famous “rumored to be rigged” matches (50:10) The Doomscroll: ESPN analyst investigated (56:33) The Mitch McConnell mystery (58:41) Donald Trump’s meme coin (1:02:52) Explosive diarrhea! Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Anthony Dabbundo Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Additional support: Dae Shik Kim Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cohost of Midnight Boys Jomi Adeniran joins to crack open the star-spangled mailbag and answer the questions lighting up our inbox this Fourth of July. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (4:42) What makes a good conspiracy? (12:37) Favorite sports conspiracies (23:47) Princess Diana and international intrigue (46:49) The Doomscroll: Ukrainian catfishing (49:39) Russian hackers Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Jomi Adeniran Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Additional support: Dae Shik Kim  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Actor/comedian Adam Conover joins to discuss Peter Thiel’s invitation-only organization and a list of the all-time evil billionaires. Plus, a pair of weight-loss drug stories, drone warfare in Russia, and theories about the afterlife. In this episode: (00:00) Intro (3:02) Peter Thiel’s "Dialog" (13:13) Jason’s theory about Dialog (38:03) All-time evil billionaires (48:23) The Doomscroll: Ozempic hacked (50:51) New obesity drug in the White House? (53:09) Claude Mythos update (56:11) Ukrainian drones (1:02:23) The ghost of Dennis Hopper Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Adam Conover Producers: Donnie Beacham and Justin Sayles Art direction: David Shoemaker Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton Engineering: Sarah Reddy Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff Additional Support: Dae Shik Kim Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices