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The Spin Sucks Podcast with Gini Dietrich

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2018/03/06
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2026/10/20
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19 min.
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8 days

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We're your one-stop shop for modern communications. The lines between PR, marketing, search, advertising, social, and content continue to blur, making it difficult to decide what belongs where. Rather than decide, let’s come together and work as one to grow organizations. We can change the PR industry...together.

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Your AI Visibility Dashboard is Lying to You
2026/10/20
Your AI visibility dashboard says you’re winning, but it may only be asking AI about your own headlines. In this episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich shares how we caught a vendor report flattering a client who turned out to be absent from every real customer question, and I walk through the exact AI visibility audit we use instead: the spreadsheet, the anchor hub, the trust map, and the “says who?” rule for measurement. Read the article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/ai-visibility-dashboard-lies/  PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/Spin Sucks Community: https://spinsucks.com/community
Thought Leadership for Executives Who Don't Have Time
2026/10/13
Your executives have plenty of thoughts. They just don't have time for your thought leadership calendar. In this week’s episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich shares how a CEO who called a voice-note idea "stupid" became famous in his industry because of it, why the fix is adding one small step to something your execs already do, and what AI can and can't do to turn their thinking into earned media. Read the post: https://spinsucks.com/communication/thought-leadership-for-executives/  PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/Spin Sucks Community: https://spinsucks.com/community
Why Your Marketing and PR Measurement Isn't Telling Leadership What Worked
2026/10/06
Your executive team wants "the numbers" by Friday, and you know what's coming: six logins, a Thursday-night spreadsheet, and a CEO asking, "So what actually worked?" The problem isn't you—it's a process that asks for activities, judges you on outcomes, and scatters the data across teams and agencies that all measure differently. In this week’s episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich breaks down why measurement keeps breaking and how to fix it: start from organizational goals, measure each PESO Model® media type for its job, and report what the numbers mean instead of just what they are. Read the article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/marketing-pr-measurement-broken/  PESO Model Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/  PESO Model Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/  Build your measurement spine: https://spinsucks.com/contact/
The PESO Model® Diagnostic: The Novartis Tight End
2026/09/29
Novartis made the most likable pharma ad of the Super Bowl—Gronk, hammocks, "relax your tight end"—and won the Pharma Lions Grand Prix at Cannes for it. But when paid media is the only channel that legal can fully control, the ad quietly becomes your whole operating system, and everything it can't say gets handed to someone else.  In this month's PESO Model® Diagnostic, Gini Dietrich runs the full Novartis campaign through the PESO lens, names the regulated-industry trap, and lays out the fixes that survive a compliance review—at every size of organization. Take the PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/Full article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/peso-model-diagnostic-novartis/
When Men Use AI, They're Resourceful. When Women Use AI, They're Cheating.
2026/09/22
Give 1,000 people the identical AI-assisted résumé and change only the first name, and James is "resourceful" while Emily "can't even write a CV herself." Three studies this year show women are judged more harshly than men for the same AI use—and in a profession that's two-thirds women, that's not an HR footnote; it's how the job loss Alex Karp predicted actually happens.  On this week’s Spin Sucks podcast episode, Gini Dietrich walks through the research, why the adoption gap doesn't close with access or training, and four things to do about it, whether you lead the team or you're the one using the tools (or both). Read the article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/ai-resourceful-cheating  My conversation with Tara McDonagh: https://communicationsbusinessadvisor.libsyn.com/episode-49-yes-and-what-gini-dietrich-and-i-learned-from-each-other Free PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/  PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/
AI Isn't Disrupting the PESO Model®. It's Proving It.
2026/09/15
A new report says earned media is disrupting the PESO Model® for AI discoverability—and a second survey, published the same month, says paid media matters most. They can't both be right, and Gini Dietrich argues neither question is. In this week’s Spin Sucks episode, she walks through what both surveys found, why "which media type matters most" measures who you asked instead of what works, and the finding everyone should be talking about: a 28-point confidence gap between agencies and brands that comes down to one word—measurement. Read the post: http://spinsucks.com/communication/ai-peso-model-proof  PESO Model Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/  PESO Model Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/  Spin Sucks Community: https://spinsucks.com/community  D S Simon report: https://www.dssimon.com/earned-media-in-the-ai-era-report/  Sword and the Script survey: https://www.swordandthescript.com/2026/08/ai-visibility-survey/
AI Agents Are the New Gatekeepers
2026/09/08
In this week’s Spin Sucks podcast episode, Gini Dietrich explains why the AI persona you built last year just got promoted to referee, the only two signals it checks before it vouches for you, and the four moves to make before someone in your building tries to solve "the AI problem" with a bigger ad budget. Read the article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/ai-agents-gatekeepers/  Take the free PESO Model Diagnostic®: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/  PESO Model Certification®: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/  AI Visibility Is a PESO Model Problem: https://spinsucks.com/communication/ai-visibility-peso-model/  Meet Your New Buyer Persona: https://spinsucks.com/communication/meet-your-new-buyer-persona/
AI Visibility Is a PESO Model® Problem—and You're Closer Than You Think
2026/09/01
Everyone is writing the same article about AI visibility: it's a new discipline, and—what luck!—they sell the thing that fixes it. Nope. AI systems reward probability, not popularity, and probability gets built through the integrated program communicators have been running for more than a decade: the PESO Model®.  In this week’s Spin Sucks podcast episode, Gini Dietrich breaks down the specific job each media type does in the evidence base LLMs actually score—and the claims-versus-corroboration audit to run with your team this week. Links:  Full article: https://spinsucks.com/communication//ai-visbility-peso-model  Marketing Dive article: https://www.marketingdive.com/news/why-unpaid-media-is-now-essential-to-ai-visibility/822485/ Free PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/  PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/
AI Visibility Starts With Trust—and You Can't AI Your Way Out of a Trust Problem
2026/08/25
Everyone wants the AI visibility tool with the free trial and the dashboard. We don't have one to sell you, and neither does anyone else—because if AI isn't recommending your brand, that's usually a trust problem wearing a tooling costume.  In this week’s Spin Sucks podcast episode, Gini Dietrich makes the case that trust is a supply chain with stations you cannot skip, and she walks through the three shortcuts that failed in public last year. You'll also learn why getting cited by an AI engine isn't the finish line, and how to tell an awareness problem from a belief problem. Read the full article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/ai-visibility-trust/  Links: Take the free PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/ PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/  The full eight-week arc, from the CMO operating system post through the Duolingo diagnostic, is at spinsucks.com
The PESO Model® Diagnostic: Duolingo Built the Internet's Favorite Brand on Rented Land
2026/08/18
Duolingo built the internet's favorite brand on rented land—the best shared media engine on the planet, run through one green owl on platforms it doesn't control. In this month's PESO Model® Diagnostic, Gini Dietrich looks at what the legend leaves out: an owned media record too thin to defend the brand when the 2025 "AI-first" backlash hit. You'll learn why Duo's chaos is actually disciplined character work, why AI engines ignore your funniest channel and cite your machine-readable record instead, and the three fixes that apply to any brand being told to "just go viral." Read the full article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/duolingo-peso-model-diagnostic/ Links: Take the free PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/ PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/  The series so far: Budweiser, Liquid Death, Peppa Pig, and HubSpot at spinsucks.com
Your Org Chart is Sabotaging Your Brand
2026/08/11
Your best work goes into review sounding like your brand, only to come out sounding like a terms-of-service update—and legal isn't actually to blame. Nearly 80% of CMOs tell Lippincott that bureaucracy regularly interferes with decision-making, and that's not a culture problem—it's a brand-erosion mechanism. In this episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich breaks down the difference between compliance bureaucracy and the self-inflicted kind, and shares the quarterly content pod system regulated teams use to ship fast without skipping review. Links: Full article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/org-chart-brand-sabotage/   Lippincott CMO Outlook 2026: https://www.lippincott.com/cmo-outlook-2026/  Free PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/  PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/
Reputation Management Now Includes What AI Says About Your Brand
2026/08/04
AI tools are already answering questions about your brand—to your buyers, your board, and the journalists who cover you—and they're confidently wrong often enough that one Minnesota company is suing Google for as much as $210 million over a lawsuit its AI invented. To make matters worse, Muck Rack research shows that in 29% of organizations, nobody owns this at all. In this episode, Gini Dietrich shares the four-move discipline for governing what AI says about your brand—baseline the narrative, fix your source of truth, correct the record with infrastructure, and give the work an owner—and make the case that this is reputation management, which means it belongs to communicators. Read the full article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/ai-reputation-management/  Take the free PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/Explore the PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/
How to Defend Your Marketing Budget in Language the CFO Actually Speaks
2026/07/28
Gartner predicts that more than 40% of CMOs who push for bigger budgets this year will lose influence with the C-suite—because their asks never connect to what the business runs on. Here's the thing: your CFO's language has only four words—pipeline, risk, retention, and cost-to-acquire—and 'reach' isn't one of them. In this episode, I show you how to translate your work into those four numbers, which budget lines to cut before someone cuts them for you, and why one traceable story beats 12 metrics in any budget meeting. Read the full article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/defend-marketing-budget Take the free PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/  PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/
The PESO Model® Diagnostic: How HubSpot Turned Owned Media Into a Moat
2026/07/21
HubSpot lost roughly 75% of its blog traffic to AI search—and grew revenue 19% anyway. Everyone wrote the obituary for content marketing, but the traffic that died was the content HubSpot never had the right to own, and everything built on real authority held. In Episode 4 of the PESO Model® Diagnostic, I break down what survived, what didn't, and how to tell which of your own content is an asset versus exposure—before AI makes the call for you. Take your own PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/ PESO Model® Certification: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/ Full article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/peso-model-diagnostic-hubspot
How to Show Up Inside the Answer: A Visibility Engineering Playbook
2026/07/14
Your buyers are asking their AI tool of choice who to trust—and if AI doesn't cite you, you don't exist. Communicators missed SEO once because it felt "too technical," and the Lippincott data says we're on track to repeat history with AI. In this week’s Spin Sucks podcast episode, Gini Dietrich shares the five-move visibility engineering playbook, plus the moment Martin Waxman ran his own organization through the PESO Model® Diagnostic live and turned a 50% score into a blueprint. If you're determined to own AI visibility before someone else does, this one's for you. Take the free PESO Model® Diagnostic: https://spinsucks.com/self-peso-diagnostic/  Get PESO Model® Certified: https://spinsucks.com/peso-model-certification/  Read the article: https://spinsucks.com/communication/visibility-engineering-playbook

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4.9 out of 5
68 reviews
★★★★★
Adrienne Says So 2025/10/25
The undisputed authority
Gini is on top of evy. This content is the living Bible for communication
★★★★★
MissyVinMN 2024/07/16
Great podcast
Gini is a well known industry pro and always has timely and good things to share!
★★★★★
Rosalita9899 2021/07/28
Listened to 3 in a Row
I am just getting into PR. I need to create a social media calendar for my assignment. Episode #21 was assigned as something to listen to. The I staye...
★★★★★
Giants2010WSChamps 2019/01/02
I'm addicted
I love Gini Dietrich! I follow her blog and now listen to her information-packed podcasts. I learn so much every day. I'm 59-years-old. Gini is teachi...
★★★★★
Chantmagick 2018/11/29
Finally!
I just binge listened to four episodes, only stopped because I arrived home! Comprehensive but digestible, pro viewpoints that a lay person can unders...
★★★★★
Joanatstake 2018/07/02
Comms Consultant/ CCO
Gini finds the perfect how-to voice. Filled with intelligence and practicality, it’s always clear, never condescending and always worth a listen for a...
★★★★★
Big MacMike 2018/06/29
Yay, more Gini Dietrich
I have always enjoyed listening to Gini on other podcasts, so I was thrilled to see she now has her own. Looking forward to getting my weekly fix
★★★★★
Newtonian54 2018/06/12
Very useful
Saying that these podcasts are very useful is high praise. Gini has a terrific combination of storytelling and hands-on advice. I was able to use some...
★★★★★
Olivia Reguon 2018/06/12
Finally!!
The communications world has been in need of this podcast for forever and a year!! Now we finally have it! Woohoo!!
★★★★★
Mdbarber 2018/06/12
Solid Tips and Advice for Comm Pros
Gini and her team have produced a great podcast for public relations and communications pros. Their segments include practical advice professionals ca...
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