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Brea MurakamiExplicit
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Date created
2018/05/26
Latest episode
2026/09/02
Average duration
28 min.
Release period
211 days
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What if you didn’t have to be a scientist or a musician to use music in your everyday life? Every episode of Instru(mental) explores music psychology research and how it shapes your brain, your body, and your life. This podcast isn’t just about what music sounds like, it’s about what music does to you. Hosted by board-certified music therapist, Brea Murakami.
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#22 - Beautiful Motives, Better Person? [Interview with Dr. Tanushree Agrawal]
2026/09/02
Does knowing someone's motivations for using music change our opinion of them? This episode features an interview with Dr. Tanushree Agrawal discussing her research on aesthetics, beauty, and prosocial judgments. Our conversation opens with how our judgments of someone's emotional sensitivity, helpfulness, and intelligence can change when we understand why they're doing something (e.g., listening to music, cooking, walking in nature). Later, Dr. Agrawal explains how her findings might show up in the real world from our everyday conversations to changing perceptions of incarcerated persons.
References and Resources
Dr. Agrawal’s website: tanushree-agrawal.comAgrawal, T., & Schachner, A. (2023) Aesthetic motivation impacts judgments of others’ prosociality and mental life. Open Mind: Discoveries in Cognitive Science, 7, 947-980. https://doi.org/10.1162/opmi_a_00113Center for Open Science. (2026, August 17). What is preregistration? https://www.cos.io/initiatives/preregMusic Credits
Instru(mental) Theme (Daniel Goldschmidt, 2018)Support the show
#21 - An MT-BC Goes to SMPC (2026)
2026/08/04
Where can you catch up on the latest music cognition research, watch a musical about the scientific process, and karaoke to your heart's desire? SMPC 2026! This episode is series of recordings from the 2026 Society for Music Perception and Cognition (SMPC) conference from a music therapist's perspective. And no, we were not sponsored by Hoosier Mama Pie.
Featured Interviewees and Resources
Emily Wood, PhD candidate at Mcmaster University (Insta: @emilywood2, @live.lab)Peter Martens, PeARL Lab at Texas Tech (Geolisten app)Science! The Musical composed by Dr. Andrew Goldman, featuring Yifan Huang, PhD studentDr. Kelsie Lopez, MIND Lab at Northeastern University (Insta: @mindlabneu)Support the show
#20 - This Is Your Musical Brain On Marijuana
2026/04/19
Have you ever noticed that music just hits differently when your high? In this episode of Instru(mental), we're diving into the surprisingly sparse, but curious body of research that explains how cannabis changes our musical experiences. Along the way, we'll touch on what mix of THC and CBD might enhance musical reward and what this might mean for clinicians working with people who listen to music under altered states of consciousness. Thank you to the sponsor of today's episode, Daniel Goldschmidt from Etude, LLC!
References:
Darakjian, L., Glassman, H., Lo, C. Y., & Russo, F. A. (2025). Exploring the interaction between cannabis and music. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, 1551, 140–158. https://doi.org/10.1111/nyas.70010Duggan, P. J. (2021). The chemistry of cannabis and cannabinoids. Australian Journal of Chemistry, 74(6), 369–387. https://doi.org/10.1071/CH21006 Freeman, T. P., Pope, R. A., Wall, M. B., Bisby, J. A., Luijten, M., Hindocha, C., Mokrysz, C., Lawn, W., Moss, A., Bloomfield, M. A. P., Morgan, C. J. A., Nutt, D. J., & Curran, H. V. (2018). Cannabis dampens the effects of music in brain regions sensitive to reward and emotion. International Journal of Neuropsychopharmacology, 21(1), 21–32. https://doi.org/10.1093/ijnp/pyx082 Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2025). Key substance use and mental health indicators in the United States: Results from the 2024 National Survey on Drug Use and Health (Publication No. PEP25-07-007, NSDUH Series H-60). Center for Behavioral Health Statistics and Quality, Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. https://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/reports/rpt56287/2024-nsduh-annual-national-report.pdf Tart, C. T. (1970). Marijuana intoxication: Common experiences. Nature, 226, 701–704. https://doi.org/10.1038/226701a0 Resources
Marijuana Anonymous
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#19 - Split Second Music Judgments
2025/10/01
What can we deduce from hearing less than 1 second of music? Learn how accurately listeners can identify music genres from excerpts that are less than a quarter of a second long, and see how your brain does in a mini version of the experimental task. Our takeaways include how these sophisticated, split-second associations to music sometimes work against our better judgment.
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References
Mace, S.T., Wagoner, C.L., Teachout, D.J., & Hodges, D.A. (2012). Genre identification of very brief musical excerpts. Psychology of Music, 40(1), 112-128. https://doi.org/10.1177/0305735610391347Song Excerpts
Classical: Adagio for Strings (Barber), The Planets, Op. 32: IV (Holst), Trois Gymnopedies: I (Satie)Country: All I Want to Do (Sugarland), Everybody Wants to Go to Heaven (Kenny Chesney), Jazz: In the Mood (Glenn Miller), Take Five (Dave Brubeck), So What (Miles Davis)Metal: Troops of Doom (Sepultura), Madhouse (Anthrax)Hip-hop: Whatever You Like (T.I.), What Them Girls Like (Ludacris), Got Money (Lil Wayne & T-Pain)Resources
The Record: Q1 2025 U.S. Audio Listening TrendsTokChart.comHarmony Healthcare American Phone Usage and Screen Time StatisticsSupport the show
#18 - Music as Moral Evidence
2025/09/25
Can music change our moral judgments of others? In this episode, we explore how knowing about someone's, or something's, musicality shifts our moral decision-making. This episode's research study includes four related experiments involving musical monkeys, anti-musical humans, dogs, babies, and robots. Then, we explore what the converging results suggest about music’s impact to shift social attitudes and advocacy efforts related to groups that are often dehumanized, like the homeless community or incarcerated individuals.
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References
Agrawal, T., Rottman, J., & Schachner, A. (2023). How musicality changes moral consideration: People judge musical entities as more wrong to harm. Psychology of Music, 51(1), 316-336. https://doi.org/10.1177/03057356221096507Robison, M., Aderhalden, F.P., & Joiner, T.E. (2024). Dehumanization and the association with nonsuicidal self-injury and suicidal ideation in an incarcerated population. Crisis, 45(4), 287-293. https://doi.org/10.1027/0227-5910/a000952Schroeder, J., & Epley, N. (2020). Demeaning: Dehumanizing others by minimizing the importance of their psychological needs. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 119(4), 765-791. https://doi.org/10.1037/pspa0000199
Resources
WALL-E movie clipTrain to Busan ending movie clip (turn on English subtitles)M3GAN Sings movie clip60 Minutes Clip: Mr. Lopez Meets Mr. AyersInmates Discuss Impact of Music TherapyMusic Therapy for Inmates at Worcester County JailSupport the show
Instru(mental) Trailer
2025/09/15
What if you didn’t have to be a scientist, or a musician, to use music in your everyday life? Hi there, I’m Brea, a board-certified music therapist and this is Instru(mental) – a podcast that explores the science of music and how it shapes your brain, your body, and your life. This podcast isn’t just about what music sounds like, it’s about what music does to you.
In each episode, I break down fascinating research about how music affects us and I share real-life takeaways you can actually use to feel better, think clearer, or just survive your Monday. Whether we’re learning about how your personality influences the music you enjoy, debunking the Mozart Effect, breaking down how music releases dopamine, or diving into how music shapes psychedelic experiences, there’s always something new I’m curious about – and I can’t wait to explore it with you.
So, follow the show on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts and start tuning into the science behind the music that moves you. Our website is instrumentalpodcast.com
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#17 - The Best Wedding Music
2025/09/10
What's the best music for a wedding? In this episode, I explain how I lightly manipulated my guests with music to make my wedding as fun, engaging, and memorable as possible. We'll cover research about the music and social bonding hypothesis, the brain's reward circuitry, and statistics about my own wedding playlists that explains how music contributed to the celebration. And, if you're in wedding planning mode, this episode has tips for curating the best music for your special day!
Support the show by checking out https://ko-fi.com/breamurakami1. Thank you!
Resources
Brea's Wedding Reception Spotify PlaylistSongData.io: Playlist analyzerReferences
Cevasco, A.M. (2008). Preferred vocal range of young and older adults: Implications for music therapy majors’ clinical training experience. Music Therapy Perspectives, 26(1), 4-12. https://doi.org/10.1093/mtp/26.1.4Montag, C., Reuter, M., & Axmacher, N. (2011). How one’s favorite song activates the reward circuitry of the brain: Personality matters, Behavioural Brain Research, 225(2), 511-514. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.bbr.2011.08.012Savage, P.E., Loui, P., Tarr, B., Schachner, A., Glowacki, L., & Mithen, S., & Fitch, W.T. (2021). Music as a coevolved system for social bonding. Behavioral and Brain Sciences, 44, e59. doi:10.1017/S0140525X20000333Socials
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#16 - Music as a Social Surrogate
2020/07/17
How can music serve as a social surrogate when we can't directly interact with others? This episode explores how listening to music can serve as a social proxy and provides ideas for how to strengthen your social relationships in the age of social distancing.
For more information about the research, resources, and music in this episode, go to www.InstrumentalPodcast.com. Follow us on Facebook or Twitter for news and updates!
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#15 - Bridging Music Therapy/Cognition [Interview with Daniel Goldschmidt]
2020/01/10
How can the fields of music therapy and music cognition strengthen each other? This episode features a conversation with music therapist Daniel Goldschmidt (@danielnnz) on a wide range of topics about bridging these two disciplines including:
What it's like to going to music therapy vs. music cognition conferencesHow Daniel applies music cognition research to his professional practiceWhere music therapy/cognition can easily intersectWhy music therapists need to seek expertise beyond their bubbleFind more information on the research articles and music included in each episode at our website, www.InstrumentalPodcast.com. Follow us on Twitter or Facebook (@instrumentalpod) for the latest news and updates!
Cool people mentioned in this podcast:
Jessica Grahn, PhD
David Huron, PhD
Blythe LaGasse, PhD, MT-BC
Hakeem Leonard, PhD, MT-BC
Marisol Norris, PhD Candidate, MT-BC
Jessica Riley, MM, MT-BC
Natasha Thomas, PhD, MT-BC
Laural Trainor, PhD, MT-BC
Lindsay Warrenburg, PhD
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#14 - Drumming and Prosody [Interview with Jessica Riley]
2019/08/16
This episode features an interview with Jessica McLean, a soon-to-be music therapist who started her career in music neuroscience. We talk about how Jessica first got involved in music science research and how she’s applied her research skills to help children with cochlear implants better hear prosody. In this episode you’ll learn more about what music may sound like for cochlear implant users, a drumming-to-speech paradigm Jessica designed to help with prosody recognition, and the importance of prosody in our everyday communication.
Find more information on the research articles and music included in each episode at our website, www.InstrumentalPodcast.com. Follow us on Twitter or Facebook (@instrumentalpod) for the latest news and updates!
Mentioned Resources:
Video: Willy Wonka with Drums
Jessica Riley’s Thesis Research Poster: HERE
Follow Jessica on Twitter: https://twitter.com/urbanfiddle
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#13 - Human Hearing
2019/07/26
How do our ears and brains take in and process sound? This episode covers the basics of how we hear starting with sound wave all the way to the primary auditory cortex. Learn how music therapists work with individuals who are hard of hearing and how to protect your own hearing.
For more information about the research, resources, and music in this episode, go to www.InstrumentalPodcast.com. Follow us on Facebook or Twitter for news and updates!
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#12 - Melody vs. Lyrics and Emotional Intensity
2019/07/12
How can individual musical elements impact our music listening experiences? This episode is a quick dive into how melody and lyrics in a song impact the emotional intensity of music. Learn how you can make more strategic music choices by becoming mindful of musical elements’ influence in how you perceive music.
For more information on the research articles and music in this episode, go to www.InstrumentalPodcast.com. Follow us on Facebook or Twitter with @instrumentalpod for news and updates!
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#11 - Music-Evoked Autobiographical Memories
2019/07/05
How do certain songs become intertwined with our personal memories? This episode explores the musical reminiscence bump, how our musical preferences may be influenced by our parents, and the neurologic mechanisms behind music-evoked autobiographical memories. Get ideas for how to use music to frame and reflect on your past experiences.
For more information on the research articles and music in this episode, go to www.InstrumentalPodcast.com. Follow us on Twitter (@instrumentalpod) for news and updates!
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#10 - Music, Rewards, and Dopamine
2018/08/10
Does music release dopamine? And how can music be interpreted as a reward? This episode uncovers how reward circuitry in our brain can be activated when we listen to music. Learn how the interactions between music and dopamine contribute to neuroplasticity and how music therapists take advantage of musical rewards for increased motivation.
For more information on the research articles and music in this episode, go to www.InstrumentalPodcast.com. Follow us on Twitter (@instrumentalpod) for news and updates!
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#9 - Congenital Amusia
2018/08/02
Why are some people tone deaf? This episode explores a musical disorder called congenital amusia, in which people have trouble processing the pitch and melodic structures of music. Learn the neurologic disconnect in amusic brains, what amusia can tell us about humans' musical foundations, whether people with amusia can still enjoy music, and how to find out if you may have amusia yourself.
For more information on the research articles and music in this episode, go to www.InstrumentalPodcast.com. Follow us on Twitter (@instrumentalpod) for news and updates!
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Rkerke 2021/02/28
Best music therapy podcast!
This is the best music therapy podcast I’ve run across. Very informative and fun.
Annoyed persons 2020/07/06
Drummer with Baha Implant
Would love to get in touch with Brea! I’m a deaf rudimental drummer with a baha cochlear implant on the right ear and waiting to get the Cochlear Osia...
Millett138 2019/09/22
Informative and interesting
Brea does a fantastic job of taking complex music psychology concepts and putting them into digestible episodes that any musically interested person c...
Esther Rose 2018/11/21
Awesome for clients or professionals
This podcast is a great fit for professionals to listen to AND for music therapists to send to their clients. Very research based, very easy to unders...
gabtothezilla 2018/06/19
Informative!
Like 99% Invisible, except for your music therapist/psychologist :)
Gormansmom 2018/06/01
So interesting!!
Brea’s podcast is very interesting and informative~
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