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This is the free/public New Models channel For full episodes, subscribe: https://patreon.com/newmodels | https://newmodels.substack.com Art, tech, media theory, culture ... networked tech's impact on life Hosts: Caroline Busta & Lil Internet https://newmodels.io Follow: @newmodels_io Est. 2018 Berlin ( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ°)ʖ ͡°)

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Preview | NM 200 Questions - Lil Internet (Fall 2026)
2026/11/03
Lil Internet has 200 questions about the future and yolo’d them all into a podcast—including the kind you don’t ask in public. 1. What if it’s all over? 2. What if this is the end? 3. What if AI is the beginning of the end? 4. Did the immateriality and ultra-high margins of the digital economy break capitalism? 5. Or did the acceleration and scale of the digital cause a phase shift in capitalism’s nature? 6. Did the digital economy break economics? 7. Or did it all start with fiat being severed from its worldly ties, freed to operate in the realm of pure abstraction? 8. Is the value of one dollar now incomprehensible? 9. Is the value of one dollar calibrated to anything human at all? 10. Do we need an entirely new economics? 11. Could AI enable a new currency that measures multi-valenced value? 12. A dollar that accounts for externalities, productivity and social betterment; that intrinsically penalizes parasitic dynamics and rentierism? 13. What if capitalist societies by their nature will never survive the digital turn? 14. Why does American capitalism seem to be optimizing for addiction? 15. Does addiction break capitalism or is it capitalism’s ideal form? 16. Is fentanyl the model for capitalism’s ideal product? 17. Is the addict capitalism’s ideal consumer because the addict’s behavior is predictable? 18. Could AI make all behavior predictable? 19. What would it feel like to find out everything you do, think, and say is predictable? 20. Why does so much of American capitalism involve normalizing vice—gambling, narcissism, lust, greed, pride? 21. Are all vices addictive? 22. If convenience is addictive, is convenience a vice? 23. Or is the whole concept of vice antiquated and problematic and I’m being reactionary? 24. If a country peddles primarily in addiction can we call it a narcostate? [...]
Preview | NM 95: Artforum co-editors Daniel Wenger & Rachel Wetzler (2026)
2026/09/29
This is a preview | For the full conversation, an annotated photo diary of Artforum’s old 7th Ave office, and access to New Models’ back catalogue, subscribe https://patreon.com/newmodels or https://newmodels.substack.com _ Our guests are Artforum co-editors Rachel Wetzler and Daniel Wenger. When the two stepped into the role this spring, the magazine, like nearly all print media and the art world at large, was wading through something of a backloop. But three issues in, a new era of the publication seems underway—one in which the magazine leans into being based in New York, and its exacting art criticism applies not just to the art on the wall but potentially to anything that operates on and through culture. In Rachel and Daniel’s hands, major exhibition reviews follows essays demystifying the creative logic of generative AI or a visit to a midtown Manhattan shop selling bank vaults; meanwhile, a heartfelt essay by Nairy Baghramian on the life of her gallerist Marian Goodman sits just as naturally on the page as a piece by Simon Denny on the aesthetics of Palantir. Reading, you might think: could art criticism become the ur-mode for making sense of the world now? We talk to Rachel and Daniel about their vision for the magazine and their own backstories. Then in post, Carly, who worked at Artforum from 2008 to 2014, added some meta-commentary on the digital shift and an impression of the Artforum she knew. Daniel and Rachel responded, also in post, with an impression of the Artforum that now is. This ep is sort of like a live-edited Google Doc in the form of a podcast. We hope you enjoy. https://www.artforum.com/issue/2026/may-2026-1234741944/
Preview | NM Update: Astonishment (Sept 2026)
2026/09/16
This is a preview | For full audio and show notes plus extras, subscribe via https://patreon.com/newmodels or https://newmodels.substack.com — After a month in North America, we’re back—coming to you from Berlin with some reflections on that time and thoughts on the AI doomstorm that’s defined this year’s fall rentrée. Lil Net, currently writing on Bernadette Corporation’s film Get Rid of Yourself (2003) for the Julia Stoschek Foundation, draws a path from Y2K era empire to the blackboxed Cthulhu it’s become today. "The twin towers didn't fall, they were uploaded." — Lil Net Carly, involved in a local land-use dispute over a country road, notes how, at least in the US, there’s no civic mechanism to value the intangible benefits of something that’s slower and higher-friction, only its measurable “improvement.” Plus: trance music and Y2K airport globalism; birth of the non-space; 9/11; the contentification of theorems; data centers; and the K-shaped everything. “They are themselves so astonished that they can do these things. And they have so much fun in doing it. But they miss a little bit more of intelligence. Strategic intelligence [...] they are too confused because they are too astonished about their own being made.” — Werner von Delmont (Stephen Dillemuth) in BC’s Get Rid of Yourself (2003) https://newmodels.io
Preview | NM Dispatch: America Diaries (Lil Internet) - August 2026
2026/08/18
Every summer, we return to the land of our youth, the Mid-Atlantic USA and, as has become tradition, relay our impressions of it to you. With this episode, @Lilinternet unpacks the 36 hours he spent just trying to get to the States, navigating a labyrinth of apps, regulations, platforms, self-ordering kiosks, loyalty programs, waitlists, dynamic pricing, seat assignments, Star Alliances and accelerating arches in an atmosphere defined by algorithms.
Preview | NM 94: Simon Denny on defense tech's aesthetic turn (2026)
2026/07/23
This is a preview | For full audio and show notes plus extras, subscribe via https://patreon.com/newmodels or https://newmodels.substack.com _ Artist Simon Denny returns to New Models to discuss the American defense tech sector's newfound dedication to aesthetics. Distilling the branding languages of companies like a16z, Palantir, and Anduril—which draw heavily on Italian Futurism, return-to-order neoclassicism, and the graphic idiom of modernist institutions—Denny shows techno-libertarian leaders to be positioning themselves as a progressive counter-elite, priming the public to receive its revanchist turn toward miltarism as natural, just, and inevitable. "Why is Andreessen reaching for art and culture? He doesn't have to reach for culture... What is useful for him in reaching back toward Futurism… ?" This conversation builds on “Epic Fury: the Dark Art of Defense Tech” Simon’s feature for the May 2026 issue of Artforum; as well as his installation “Monsters Between Worlds” with Venkatesh Rao, which is on view in Venice as part of Palazzo Diedo’s “Strange Rules” exhibition (through Nov. 21); and “Rules Based Order” in Munich, his solo show at Gallery Kraupa-Tuskany-Ziedler. https://simondenny.net/
Preview | NM Content Today: Taste (2026)
2026/07/06
This is a preview | For full audio and show notes plus extras, subscribe via https://patreon.com/newmodels or https://newmodels.substack.com _ When Enlightenment-era scholars taxonomized humankind, they chose homo sapiens, in part because of what they observed as a uniquely human aptitude for “taste.” [“Taste” comes from the Latin taxare (to handle, to assess) – an intensive form of tangere (to touch). It is a term that via vulgar Latin blended with gustare (to taste, to try) to express the act of appraising something by physically handling or even consuming it. In proper Latin, there is the related term sapere, which carries a double meaning of “to taste” and “to be wise.” To taste, in the sense of sapere, is to possess wisdom through tangible experience.] It’s remarkable that in recent years, and intensely in recent months, the idea of “taste”—“having taste,” “deploying taste,” “taste agents,” “integrating a taste layer,” “taste as a core skill,” “taste as moat”—has become an ultra-present concern in tech circles. Isn’t having taste (wherever one falls along the taste spectrum) an inherent quality of being human? To be sure, there’s already a lot of writing on this phenomenon: “Tasteslop” by NEMESIS‘s Emily Segal and “Why Tech Bros Are Now Obsessed With Taste” by Kyle Chayka for the New Yorker being among the best takes. The most confounding, in our opinion being Y-Combinator cofounder Paul Graham’s “Taste for Makers” (Feb 2002, but highly cited this year). There is also “Against Taste,” by Will Manidis, which makes some good points (patrons used to fund art for a higher power or at least public display whereas contemporary collectors tend to buy art for their own private use) but in its theory-of-everything aspiration, feels LLM-ish and contextually ahistorical. So in pure “Content Today” form, we are adding to the pile-on with our own fashionably late, probably factually botched but definitely human, free-associative conversation about taste.
The Online Marketplace of Ideas w/ Joshua Citarella (2026)
2026/06/10
This is a public post. For all New Models, subscribe! https://patreon.com/newmodels | https://newmodels.substack.com In recent episodes, you’ve heard us mention the project we created this spring with Joshua Citarella, together with the spatial design studio sub, for “Strange Rules” at Palazzo Diedo, Venice. On this episode, we chat with Josh about this work. The exhibition, which was curated by Holly Herndon, Mat Dryhurst, and Hans Ulrich Obrist with Adriana Rispoli, presents practices that engage with the "protocol layer” — in other words, the rules that determine how culture is created, transmitted, remembered. For more text & images: https://www.patreon.com/posts/online-of-ideas-160600874 https://substack.com/home/post/p-201216984 Joshua Citarella / Doomscroll: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4pEm3-yshBWa7nH3sQIKHQ
Preview | NM Talkcore: Steven Warwick on making music in the time of content (2026)
2026/06/08
This is preview (full ep released to subscribers 06/03/2026) — to access all our content & to join the NM Discord, subscribe: https://patreon.com/newmodels & https://newmodels.substack.com We talk a lot on this show about the “content” layer being compromised; how, given the physics of the feed, the creative act increasingly happens at the protocol level. While this is true, good books and films and records are, in fact, still being made. On this ep, friend of New Models Steven Warwick comes by on the occasion of his two new albums — "Live at Café Oto" (P-A-N) and, from his new band with Iván Brito, GUSH, "Splash of Milk" (Huntleys + Palmers) — to chat about making music, touring, and putting out albums in 2026. https://p-a-n.org/product/steven-warwi…iveatcafeoto-pan163/ https://huntleyspalmers.bandcamp.com/album/gush…of-milk-lp For more: https://instagram.com/ohmygushhhhh https://instagram.com/sweetie_darling_bebe https://stevenwarwick.info
Preview | NM Greenroom: VICE magazine’s Ben Ditto & Kevin Lee Kharas (2026)
2026/05/12
This is preview (full ep released to subscribers 04/17/2026) — to access all our content & to join the NM Discord, subscribe: patreon.com/newmodels & newmodels.substack.com "Anyone that claims they understand the world — this immediately marks them out as a fraud." — Kevin Lee Kharas After the imperial collapse (40 global offices, thousands of employees, bankruptcy), VICE magazine is now run by a lean, London-based team — and it is making one of the best culture publications currently in circulation. Ben Ditto (Vice global editorial director; founder of Ditto Nation; creative dir. Yaya Labs; founding creative dir. Dazed Beauty) and Kevin Lee Kharas (Vice editor-in-chief and co-founder of the electronic duo @real_lies ) come on New Models to discuss their current “Not The Photo Issue” (feat. Dean Kissick x Adam Curtis, Bertie Brandes, Mat Dryhurst, Günseli Yalcinkaya, Duncan Wilson, and others) and their media philosophy at large. Subscribe to VICE: https://www.vice.com/en/article/introducing-the-not-the-photo-issue-of-vice-magazine-pre-order-now/ For more: NM49 | GPT Ditto w/ Ben Ditto: https://soundcloud.com/newmodels/gpt-ditto-w-ben-ditto-nm49
Preview | Theorists Daniël de Zeeuw & Sal Hagen on the post-discursive web (NM 93) 2026
2026/04/12
This is preview — to access full episode and all New Models' content, subscribe: https://patreon.com/newmodels & https://newmodels.substack.com We’re joined by media scholars Daniël de Zeeuw & Sal Hagen, who have been closely tracking the weirder end of the internet for over a decade—their research and analysis of 4chan has made them low-key legends within internet studies. As 4chan’s logic is now pervasive across the social web, Daniël and Sal, together with their colleagues at the Amsterdam-based OILab, have been modeling novel ways of thinking about our current communication space that travel well beyond the network media / public sphere template to something far stranger — and more accurate. For more: https://oilab.eu/ https://salhagen.nl/ https://www.uva.nl/en/profile/z/e/d.dezeeuw/d.dezeeuw.html Hagen, S., de Zeeuw, D., & Venturini, T. (2025). Digital Rhythmanalysis: Studying Memetic and Affective Rhythms on the Post-Viral Web. Platforms & Society, 2. de Zeeuw, D., Birchall, C., & Knight, P. (2025). On Psyop Realism. Cultural Politics, 21(2), 240-257 Hagen, S. (2024) Reactionary Rhythm: Quali-quantitative studies of 4chan/pol/. PhD thesis, University of Amsterdam
 Hagen, S., & de Zeeuw, D. (2023). Based and confused: Tracing the political connotations of a memetic phrase across the web. Big Data & Society, 10(1) Nepost
Unlocked | Scholar Peli Grietzer updates his 2017 "Theory of a Vibe" (NM92) 2026
2026/03/02
This is an unlocked epdisode first released to subscribers 03/02/2026 — to access all our content & to join the NM Discord, subscribe: patreon.com/newmodels & newmodels.substack.com _ We speak often in the New Model sphere about scanning and sensing rather than reading—communication through vibes. Peli Grietzer is a comparative literature PhD (Harvard) who has spent over a decade developing a rigorous theory of what a “vibe" actually is, how we increasingly follow ineffable cues to navigate our world and these, taken together, in fact exist as empirical objects in mathematical space. On this episode, Peli joins NM to talk about his work for a more general audience. For more: @peligrietzer (X & IG)
 Substack: Second Balcony
(https://peligrietzer.substack.com/) Theory of a Vibe (https://www.glass-bead.org/wp-content/uploads/GB_Site-1_Peli-Grietzer_Eng.pdf) Theory of a Vibe ’25 (https://peligrietzer.substack.com/p/theory-of-vibe-25)
Preview | NM Greenroom: Calla Henkel & Max Pitegoff on New Theater Hollywood (2026)
2026/03/02
This is preview (full ep released to subscribers 02/15/2026) — to access all our content & to join the NM Discord, subscribe: https://patreon.com/newmodels & https://newmodels.substack.com -- Back in Berlin to show their new film work “The End of Theater” at Isabella Bortolozzi Gallery, artists Calla Henkel & Max Pitegoff drop by New Models to chat about that film’s primary set: New Theater Hollywood, the DIY theater they opened on Santa Monica Boulevard after decamping to LA in 2023. We discuss their layered process — creating a space that generates a scene, which produces its own art and dedicated star-system while also serving as source material, location, and cast for all that Max and Calla make in parallel — as a distinctly contemporary protocol for artmaking today. We also talk about the return of theater itself at a time when every physical place now feels like a potential set, whether for a vlog or an ICE raid, and performance online is constant? Does theater hit different in our neo-oral era? Does LA? For more: www.newtheaterhollywood.com & @newtheaterhollywood See also: 
 Mike Davis, "City of Quartz" (Verso, 1990) Thom Anderson, "LA Plays Itself" (2003) NM Podcast | Mise-en-TV w/ Calla Henkel (2022) NM 77 | Calla Henkel on Art, Industry, and “Scrap” (2024)
Unlocked | NM Reads: Gideon Jacobs, "MAGA as Fan Fiction," LA Review of Books (2026)
2026/02/20
This is an unlocked episode of New Models (originally released 01/31/2026) — to access all our content & to join the NM Discord, subscribe: patreon.com/newmodels newmodels.substack.com -- Gideon Jacobs returns to NM with his third essay in a trilogy for the LA Review of Books that tracks, in real-time, the American Political machine’s delamination from everyday life through runaway story-drive. In “MAGA as Fan Fiction,” Gideon shows US politics both left and right as having become a read-write medium for collective creative expression more than material governance—a kind of kayfabe where ‘democracy’ takes the form of citizens co-creating storyline with their elected officials and everyone in office has an IMDB profile. Carly & Lil Internet intro this ep with a short conversation drawing out themes across this trilogy that feel particularly NM Canon. “Of course, long before any advanced communication technologies, humans had been drawn not just to stories but also to the possibility of living as characters within them. Story’s appeal had always been precisely that it’s not like reality. […] a dream of existing free from the pesky flaws intrinsic to reality: uncontrollability, unpredictability, vulnerability, mundanity, complexity, incoherence, confusion, pain.” Audio production: Lil Internet For more:
gideon.works/ Gideon Jacobs, “MAGA as Fan Fiction,” (Jan 2026)
lareviewofbooks.org/article/trump-e…l-maga-reality/ Gideon Jacobs, “Player One and Main Character,” (Apr 2025)
lareviewofbooks.org/article/player-…main-character/ Gideon Jacobs, “Trump l’Oeil,” (Nov 2024) lareviewofbooks.org/article/trump-loeil/
Preview | NM Dispatch: America Diaries Winter 2026 (Lil Internet)
2026/01/31
This is a preview — for the full episode, subscribe: https://patreon.com/newmodels https://newmodels.substack.com A psyche-delic meditation by Lil Internet on what it means to live among multiple competing intelligences—and the urgent need to develop new rituals for engaging with them before capital-mind fentafies us all into extinction. "I no longer saw the highway, I felt it, viscerally, overwhelmed by the colossal, conquering thrust of capital. The velocity of the vehicles became tangible, massive aggregations of steel, plastic, glass, rubber, precision electronics, combustion engines and gasoline in violently accelerating streams of headlights and taillights..."
Preview | NM Talkcore: Jay Springett on "Slop Machines of Loving Grace" (2025)
2025/12/30
This is a preview — for the full episode, subscribe: https://patreon.com/newmodels https://newmodels.substack.com You’ve heard us reference the work of Jay Springett (aka @thejaymo) on nearly every pod this year — so with his new book Slop Machines of Loving Grace near completion, we invited Jay on the show to chat through some of its themes. The book takes 2008 as a breaking point, a moment where the late-20th century financial system imploded and, in its place, society was given a new operating system: one optimized for exocapitalism and shaped by “smartness,” a forceful symbiosis of finance and software. On the ep, we discuss the rise of American “code-spaces” (e.g., apps, platforms, etc) and hyper-fragmented “data subjects” taking the place of the modern “individual.” "What happens,” Lil Internet asks, “when AI agents become not just tools but inhabitants of the world of human culture? Chat with an Oct 2025 draft Jay’s book’s here: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-68d150abe8008191b27383697808eed9-slop-machines Follow/subscribe/listen to more of Jay’s work at https://thejaymo.net See also: NM85 | Jay Springett on “Worlds” as Medium (2024)

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4.7 out of 5
138 reviews
★★★☆☆
knocknamey 2025/01/04
Hosts rude to each other and the guests
The woman host seems like she has to interject constantly, especially over her co-hist, but even over the guest. It’s annoying to listeners.
★★★★★
Jarrerr 2022/06/02
Actually pretty good
I sold my milady for a second Channel Founders Token. The best deal in the bizness.
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jackbowen92 2021/04/20
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Love to listen to some pro-complexity takes while enjoying a nice Arnold Palmer and sitting on my front porch :👃)
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GR8_TASTE 2021/04/01
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top 8
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Ahahdhdjudhdhdhdvg 2019/09/20
Just some edge lords after all
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Pathh 2019/07/18
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Very fire.
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Damjanski 2019/05/12
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johnnyfractal3 2019/05/08
Loves it
Maybe I’m a dork but I like to take notes while I listen, the topics and discussions are extremely interesting.
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R. Foxxworth 2019/04/15
"Pro-Complexity"
Well edited and produced podcast that focuses on tech-criticism and how tech interacts with politics, and always wary of the simplistic, reductionist ...
★★★★★
caarl marks 2019/03/30
fun
a podcast that talks about twitter like it is real life. constantly reminding you they are based in berlin. cheers
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