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2026/10/13
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The MAKE IT podcast salutes the Indie Film Creative. Join us for candid conversations with seasoned pros who share advice, knowledge, and industry insights to fast-track the journey of aspiring film professionals. Discover inspiration and guidance tailored for your cinematic path. Enjoy the journey? Dive deeper at www.themakeitpodcast.com and follow us on Instagram and X @_makeitpodcast.
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SUMMARIES - Julius Ritter - The Permissionless Revolution & When Zero Dollars Isn’t Zero Vision
2026/10/13
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Hello, Hello!
In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness explore Julius Ritter’s evolution from biracial child and working actor to independent writer-director. The conversation examines permissionless work, zero-budget filmmaking, creative solitude, and the search for timeless artistic themes. It is essential listening for filmmakers who want to build original work without waiting for industry approval.
We also talk about:
How being labeled can lead an artist to invent new worlds and identities.Why Ritter paused Sock and Buskin to pursue a $100,000 GoFundMe.The relationship between casting debates, colorism, representation, and working artists’ livelihoods.Why internet slang can date a screenplay while universal themes remain accessible.How solitude prepares a creative blueprint before collaboration brings it to life.
People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:
People
Julius Charles Ritter (also on TMDB)
Terry Jingles
Rob Reiner
Quentin Tarantino
William Shakespeare
Soulja Boy
Acting Credits
Gap (Gap Kids)
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation
Like Mike
Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life
The Master of Disguise
His Own Films
Sock & Buskin
Sock and Buskin Film Fund (GoFundMe)
Mr. Misery
Americana, White Sheets
What Did Deborah Do?
Organizations & Platforms
Ford Models
GoFundMe
Mammoth Film Festival
References & Places
Looney Tunes
Sock and buskin
Hollywood
Los Angeles
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Bonus Episode: 48 Hour Film Project Winner Allison Alonzo on How to Make a Film in 48 Hours
2026/10/09
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Hello, Hello!
In this episode, Allison Alonso explains how she led her first 48 Hour Film Project as a director and won with Falling Short. She breaks down the competition’s strict rules, the creative decisions behind the film, and the practical realities of making a short film in 48 hours. The conversation also explores filmmaking careers, crew leadership, food on set, film influences, and what it means to make it.
We also talk about:
How the 48 Hour Film Project assigns the same prop, required phrase, and character details to every team.Why Allison chose fantasy over dystopia/utopia and how the team made a tomato work at a gas station location.The importance of feeding a crew, from Mexican bowls at lunch to Hunts Brothers pizza at 2 a.m.How a production team can protect a story’s twist by listening to actors and department heads during shooting.Why Allison sees the project as a return to film after taking a job at Vanderbilt University for stability, health insurance, paid time off, and a break from the industry.
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
Falling Short
Raiders of the Lost Ark
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Jaws
Short Circuit
Napoleon Dynamite
Barbie
Tenet
The Green Knight
Black Knight
Coming to America
Food & Brands
Hunt Brothers Pizza
Domino’s
Gabby’s Burgers & Fries
Emmy Squared
Big Mac
Superica
Pizookie
People
Allison Alonzo
EmElise Knapp
Martin Lawrence
Steven Spielberg
Jordan Chateau
Connor Bacon
Seth Shepard
Jones Kolbinski
Jake Gilbert
Mariah Kramer
Alfonso Ribeiro
Tia A. Smith
Schools
Vanderbilt University
Belmont University
Carnegie Mellon University
Film Events & Organizations
Nashville Film Festival
48 Hour Film Project — Nashville
Filmapalooza
Point of VU Film Festival (POVU) — Vanderbilt’s student festival
Places & Venues
Dallas, Texas
Burbank, California
Mexico City
Zanies Nashville
The Gulch
Green Hills
Flamingo Cocktail Club
Cledis
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447 - What Money Can’t Fix on a Film Set, Why People Need People, and Creative Sets, AI, and Staying Weird - Nichole Marie Lim
2026/10/02
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Hello, Hello!
In this episode, we speak with Nashville filmmaker Nicole Marie Lim about building a career across makeup, writing, producing, and directing. Nicole explains how supportive relationships, practical set skills, and respectful leadership shape better creative work. The conversation also examines AI, vertical video, mid-budget filmmaking, actor chemistry, and what it means to make it without losing the joy of creating.
We also talk about:
How makeup artists can prepare for their first professional set.Why continuity, schedules, and department-specific language matter.The limits of glamour, fame, and money in filmmaking.Why directors should trust department heads and communicate according to individual needs.How chemistry reads can reveal unexpected casting choices.
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
People
Nichole Marie Lim (also IMDb)
Joy Todd
David Lim
Michelle Lim
John August
Craig Mazin
Jim Henson
J.K. Simmons
Brad Pitt
David Ayer
Stephen Norrington
Tim Burton
Christopher Nolan
Zendaya
Robert Pattinson
Milla Jovovich
Viola Davis
Brands & Products
My Kit Co
RCMA Makeup
Senna Cosmetics
Listerine
Altoids
Her Projects
Checkmate, The Way Back Down, Mom Cult, American Quilt Contest
Films
Holland (2025)
Blade
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
The Migrant
Marie Antoinette
Amélie
Romeo + Juliet
The Sound of Music
The Expendables 2
Sinners
The 'Burbs
Poor Things
The Odyssey
Oppenheimer
Grizzly Man
Jaws
Alien
A Week Away
Places & Institutions
Nashville
Ohio
New York
Amsterdam
Mumbai
Nashville Film Festival
Frist Art Museum
MAKE IT
Make It Academy
Mastering Film Marketing (e-book)
The MAKE IT Podcast
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SUMMARIES - Keith McDaniel - How he made "The Clinton 12," Cast James Earl Jones, and Why Local Beats Bigger
2026/09/29
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Hello, Hello!
In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness examine Keith McDaniel’s path from singer, designer, and scriptwriter to documentary filmmaker and community leader. They explore how he learned filmmaking without formal training, documented complex Tennessee history, and built a sustainable local film festival. The conversation also connects creative independence with health, discipline, and the possibility that starting late can mean starting prepared.
We also talk about:
How a poor first documentary can still reveal the right creative medium.Why interviewing original Oakridgers preserved primary historical testimony.How James Earl Jones added credibility and distribution power to The Clinton 12.Why Keith treated 40 film festivals as research laboratories rather than applause tours.How the seven-day shootout created audience ownership through participation.
People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:
Keith McDaniel (also IMDb)
James Earl Jones
Ken Burns
Films & Projects
The Clinton 12
Secret City: The Oak Ridge Story
The Belmont Reasons
Companies & Organizations
Secret City Films
Secret City Film Festival
Knoxville Film Festival
Dogwood Arts
Discovery
Jupiter Entertainment
eBay
Motel 6
Places
Oak Ridge, Tennessee
Roane County, Tennessee
Knoxville, Tennessee
Regal Downtown West Cinema 8
History & Concepts
Brown v. Board of Education
Manhattan Project
VHS
Slow-carb diet
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446 - Isabel Hagen on Making 'On a String', Winning Tribeca, Cancel Culture, and Surviving Stand‑Up
2026/09/18
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In this episode, Isabel Hagen joins us to discuss her work as a comedian, filmmaker, and classically trained violist. She explains how her freelance music career inspired the feature film On a String, which premiered at Tribeca and won Best Screenplay in the U.S. Narrative Competition. The conversation also explores comedy in the age of clips, creative persistence, protecting real people in fiction, film criticism, artistic identity, and what it means to make it.
We also talk about:
Turning experiences from weddings, funerals, and private music gigs into heightened comedic characters and situations.Why live comedy benefits from audiences putting their phones away while performers test unfinished material.Isabel’s process for becoming a stronger comedian through open mics, recordings, repeated performance, and daily review.The creative lessons she draws from Paul Thomas Anderson, including the scale of One Battle After Another and the score of Phantom Thread.How nostalgia, streaming overload, and the paradox of choice influence how audiences rewatch their favorite movies.
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
People
Isabel Hagen (isabelhagen.com)
Brandon Tamburri
William Primrose
Paul Thomas Anderson
Maria Bamford
Marina Abramović
Lana Del Rey
Films & TV
On a String
The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
One Battle After Another
Phantom Thread
Happiness
The Omen
The Parent Trap
Goodfellas
Challengers
Saltburn
It's a Wonderful Life
The Princess Bride
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
The NeverEnding Story
The Dukes of Hazzard
Companies & Organizations
Joke Zero
Tribeca Film Festival
The Juilliard School
NBC Symphony Orchestra
Hollywood Walk of Fame
Nashville Film Festival
Substack
Soho House
Music
Guns N' Roses
"Welcome to the Jungle"
Food & Places
LaGuardia Airport
Seattle
7th Street Burger
Shake Shack
Beecher's Handmade Cheese
The Capital Grille
MAKE IT
Make It Academy
Mastering Film Marketing (e-book)
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Film Brief - Who Is Stan Smith? - The Man Behind the Three Stripes
2026/09/16
WHAT IS FILM BRIEF?
Blending journalism with artistry, Film Brief transforms film analysis into an engaging and informative listening experience. The goal is to reveal what makes each movie or series resonate—on screen and behind the scenes. For listeners, it’s not just a review; it’s an exploration of the art of filmmaking.
BRIEF:
In this episode, Nick reviews Who Is Stan Smith?, Danny Lee’s documentary about the tennis champion whose name became attached to one of the world’s most recognizable sneakers. The film moves from athletic achievement and fashion history to Stan Smith’s friendship with Arthur Ashe, humanitarian work, and commitment to players’ rights. The conversation ultimately asks what kind of signature each person leaves behind when fame and branding are stripped away.
TAKEAWAYS:
Smith’s rise from Southern California and USC tennis to former world number one.His 1971 U.S. Open victory, 1972 Wimbledon victory, five U.S. Open titles across singles and doubles, and eight championship Davis Cup teams.The open era of professional tennis and the movement for greater player control.Smith’s 1973 Wimbledon boycott after Nikola Pilic was suspended.The sneaker’s adoption by musicians, artists, designers, and fashion communities.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
The Film
Who Is Stan Smith?
Danny Lee
Rebecca Halpern
People
Stan Smith
Arthur Ashe
John McEnroe
Darryl "DMC" McDaniels
Pharrell Williams
Niki Pilić
Products & Brands
Adidas Stan Smith
Run-DMC
Institutions & Events
University of Southern California
US Open
Wimbledon
Davis Cup
Ebook: "Mastering Film Marketing"
The MAKE IT Podcast
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SUMMARIES - Alexis Gambis - CRISPR, Cinema, and Identity—The Human Story of Science
2026/09/15
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In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness dive deep into the world of filmmaker and Scientist, Alexis Gambis. He explains how a background in molecular biology can serve as a foundation for filmmaking rather than be an abandoned career. The conversation explores the Science New Wave, a movement that combines rigorous science with emotional storytelling, culture, and personal identity. It also examines CRISPR, de-extinction, creative practice, and the infrastructure needed to bring hybrid science films to audiences.
We also talk about:
The patience and observation skills Gambis developed while studying fruit flies.His father’s shift from engineering to painting and the role of family history in his films.The resistance Gambis encountered from both biology and film communities.Spike Lee’s mentorship and the fruit-fly drawing displayed beside a photo of Patrick Ewing.The Symbiosis initiative’s one-week collaborations between scientists and filmmakers.
People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:
Alexis Gambis
Spike Lee
James Franco
Jessica Chastain
Tenoch Huerta
Kurt Andersen
Thomas Hunt Morgan
Films & Projects
The Fly Room (2014)
Son of Monarchs (2020/21)
The Next Jaguar
Disposable
The Color of Time
Institutions & Platforms
The Rockefeller University
NYU Tisch School of the Arts
Columbia University
Labocine
Imagine Science Films
Science New Wave — Labocine
Sundance Film Festival
Alfred P. Sloan Prize
Science & Concepts
Symbiosis
CRISPR
Cas9
Thylacine (Tasmanian tiger)
Woolly mammoth
Asian elephant
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445 - Indie Talk - The Death of Physical Media, Infoist Religion, Fall Film Festivals, AI in Education, and Reaching 300K Subscribers
2026/09/04
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In this episode, we dive deep into the cultural and philosophical battle between physical ownership and the digital future, using Sony's elimination of physical game discs and Xbox's pro-physical media stance as a launching point for a wide-ranging conversation about what we lose when we lose the tangible things we love. We pay heartfelt tribute to recently lost icons — including Dolly Parton, Tim Curry, Peter Cullen, Hayden Panettiere, and Michael Wright — reflecting on how physical artifacts, authentic storytelling, and genuine human connection define lasting legacies. We also cover upcoming film releases, fall film festival Oscar buzz, the Nashville Film Festival, and celebrate our milestone of 300K YouTube subscribers.
We also talk about:
The generational nostalgia crisis — what happens when the next generation's cultural touchstones are memes instead of physical media, Saturday morning cartoons, or vinyl records, and why that loss of human connection to art mattersThe University of Michigan's decision to eliminate grades in response to students using AI to complete coursework for them, and what that means for the future of education and creativityThe Tennessee Titans' underwhelming $10,000 charity gesture for former star Chris Johnson (CJ2K), who was diagnosed with ALS, contrasted with Dolly Parton's 330-million-book donation legacy and what "real" philanthropy looks likeThe upcoming Netflix reboot of A Different World, why Kadeem Hardison's involvement gives fans hope, and what the show must get right to honor the original's legacy of hope, pride, and HBCU cultureThe "infoist" philosophy described in Yuval Noah Harari's 21 Lessons for the 21st Century and how it explains why tech companies are relentlessly pushing toward a fully digital, ownership-free world
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
Products / Software / Technology
PlayStation
Xbox
Spotify / Apple Music
iTunes
Netflix
HP
Funko
Atari 2600
Sega Genesis
ChatGPT
Flock Safety
Films / Shows / Music
Mastering Film Marketing (ebook)
On a String
Black Zombie
Anthony Bourdain
Digger (Tom Cruise)
A Different World
Bel-Air
Good Times
The Five Heartbeats
Blonde
"Jolene"
"Coat of Many Colors"
"9 to 5"
"I Will Always Love You"
Boys Don't Cry (Frank Ocean magazine) — Blonde page
The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Annie
The Transformers
Smosh
"Chocolate Rain"
Charlie Bit My Finger
Iron Lung
Obsession
Backrooms
Peter Frampton
21 Lessons for the 21st Century
Sapiens
People
Dolly Parton
Tim Curry
Peter Cullen
Hayden Panettiere
Michael Wright
Chris Johnson (CJ2K)
Frank Ocean
Whitney Houston
Elvis Presley
Porter Wagoner
Eminem
Steve Jobs
Yuval Noah Harari
Kadeem Hardison
Markiplier
Kane Parsons
Curry Barker
Isabel Hagen
Anthony Padilla & Ian Hecox
Tay Zonday
Paul Kuharsky
Bill Cosby
Places / Events / Organizations
Nashville Film Festival
Nashville, Tennessee
Dollywood
Telluride Film Festival
New York Film Festival
Venice Film Festival
TIFF
Sundance Film Festival
Tribeca Film Festival
HBCUs
University of Michigan
Make It Academy
themakeitpodcast.com
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SUMMARIES - Jeffrey Pittle - Why Art Is Never Finished, The Secret Lost Chaka Khan Video, and How Serving the Work Builds a Lasting Creative Legacy
2026/09/01
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Hello, Hello!
In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness dive deep into the remarkable career of Jeffrey Pittle, a senior creative director, animator, and self-described "agent of transformation" who has spent over two decades working with industry giants like Disney, Universal, Warner Bros., and Nickelodeon. Drawing from the original MAKE IT interview, they unpack the audacious, humble, and often painful journey of a creative professional who built a unicorn skill set by refusing to stay in any single lane. From knocking on a comic legend's front door as a teenager to producing an Oscar-nominated Holocaust animated short, Jeff's story is a masterclass in surviving — and thriving — in the unpredictable business of creativity.
We also talk about:
How Jeffrey's childhood obsession with '70s Disney films, Jim Henson's Muppets, and the original Star Wars at a drive-in theater planted the seeds of his creative identity and gave him the cognitive leap to realize that making art was an actual, payable professionThe critical balance between audacity and humility in a creative career — why having the ego to knock on a legend's door means nothing without the willingness to sit in a freezing car all night just to hold a parking spot for a film craneThe dangers of tying your creative work to a proprietary tech platform, illustrated by the heartbreaking story of a technically stunning Chaka Khan music video that was locked away forever when the startup behind it went bankruptJeffrey's sharp critique of modern art schools, which excel at teaching technical craft but consistently fail to equip young creatives with the business skills — invoicing, taxes, pricing their time — needed to survive as professionalsThe philosophical paradox that closes the episode: if a masterpiece is created but legally sealed away from the public forever, does it still have value — or does the true worth of creativity lie entirely in how the process of making it transforms the artist?
People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:
Jeffrey Pittle
Will Eisner
Bill Murray
Caroll Spinney
Chaka Khan
Jim Krupa (NY puppet company)
Daniel Alcheh
Leonardo da Vinci
Isaac Newton
Steven Spielberg
Films & Shows
Pete's Dragon
Winnie the Pooh
Star Wars (1977)
Scrooged (1988)
Eureeka's Castle
Deal or No Deal
Wipeout
The Tattooed Torah
Companies & Organizations
Nickelodeon
Universal Pictures
Nick Jr.
School of Visual Arts
QB (vertical video startup)
Quibi
Fish Eggs (Venice, CA)
USC Shoah Foundation
11 Dollar Bill
Platforms & Tools
Adobe After Effects
Fitbit
Google Images
MTV
Places
South Florida
Boca Raton, Florida
New York City
Queens, New York
Venice, California
Los Angeles, California
Moscow, Russia
Concepts & Awards
Eisner Awards
Academy Award for Best Animated Short Film
Motion capture
Chroma key (green screen)
Steampunk
Jack of all trades, master of none
Star Trek vs. Star Wars
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444 - Oscar Boyson on Directing Our Hero, Balthazar, Working with The Neistat Brothers, Empathy Machines vs. Validation Machines, and Failing in Public
2026/08/21
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In this episode, Chris & Papa Bear sit down with filmmaker Oscar Boyson to discuss his directorial debut, Our Hero, Balthazar, a provocative and critically talked-about indie film that has been called the most controversial movie of the year. Oscar shares how his unconventional path — from competitive freestyle skier in Maine to Craigslist hire at the Neistat Brothers' studio — shaped him into the filmmaker he is today. The conversation spans filmmaking craft, the dangers of AI dependency, the power of perseverance over ideas, and what it truly means to get an independent film in front of audiences.
We also talk about:
The thematic parallels between Our Hero, Balthazar, and the 1995 indie classic Kids, including how both films straddle the line between being cautionary tales for parents and romanticized adventures for younger viewersThe growing role of AI tools like ChatGPT in everyday decision-making, and whether over-reliance on AI is creating a generation that can no longer think or fail independently — including the concept of "Gellman Amnesia" as a lens for understanding AI's credibility problemThe social media "validation machine" phenomenon, how algorithms reinforce existing beliefs and behaviors, and what that means for youth culture, mental health, and even real-world violenceThe importance of perseverance over ideas in the creative process, drawing on Casey Neistat's famous motto — "Ideas are common, perseverance is rare" — and how Oscar applied that philosophy to his own career and filmmaking journeyThe practical and ethical considerations of using firearms and blank-firing weapons on an indie film set in the post-Rust era, including the critical role of a professional armorer and the creative reasoning behind using blanks for actor authenticity
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
People
Oscar Boyson
Casey Neistat
Van Neistat
Ricky Camilleri
Nate DeYoung
Josh & Benny Safdie
Greta Gerwig
Noah Baumbach
Tom Sachs
Frank Gehry
Asa Butterfield
Jaeden Martell
Stephen Phelps
Christopher Messina
Lena Dunham
Sam Lisenco
Harmony Korine
Rosario Dawson
Chloë Sevigny
Roger Ebert
Gene Siskel
Oscar Hammerstein II
Oscar Micheaux
Oscar Isaac
Oscar Levant
Dick Gregory
MrBeast
Jordan Gallant (composer)
Spike Lee
Spike Jonze
David Fincher
Gaspar Noé
Andrew Tate
Big Mike (Oscar’s father)
Elise (Oscar’s sister)
Films
Our Hero, Balthazar
Kids (1995)
Frances Ha
Good Time
Heaven Knows What
Adolescence
The Odyssey
Boogie Nights
Trainspotting
Taxi Driver
Straw Dogs (1971)
Jour de fête
The Last Temptation of Christ
Irréversible
Ex Machina
A Most Violent Year
Lady Be Good (1941)
State Fair (1945)
TV Shows
The Neistat Brothers
Platforms, Websites & Tools
ChatGPT / OpenAI
Craigslist
Vimeo
The Wayback Machine
Digital Cinema Package (DCP)
Art House Convergence
Places
Williams Center
Nashville, Tennessee
Maryland
Lower Antioch / Woodbine — Nashville neighborhoods
Maine
New York City
North Texas
Hawaii
Tribeca Festival
Nashville Film Festival
Belcourt Theatre
Regal Opry Mills
Products & Brands
Tesla Supercharger
Tesla app
Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Chick-fil-A
Concepts & References
Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect
Parasocial relationships
The Covenant School shooting
Nineteen Eighty-Four
Stoneman Douglas / Parkland
Four-walling
“Ideas are common, perseverance is rare” — Casey Neistat motto
“Movies are empathy machines” — Roger Ebert
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Mistakes In The Making - The Creative Pivot That Made Barbie a Billion-Dollar Film
2026/08/19
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In this episode, Kevin Goetz, Hollywood's leading audience research expert and founder of Screen Engine, shares one of his most humbling professional mistakes — advising Mattel's entertainment team to walk away from the Barbie movie project before it became a global cultural phenomenon. Kevin reflects on how he misread early research data that showed limited audience interest in a Barbie film, and how a visionary filmmaker, a bold creative pivot, and a brilliant marketing strategy transformed a seemingly doomed IP into one of the highest-grossing films in history. This conversation is a masterclass in intellectual humility, the limits of data, and the power of creative conviction.
We also talk about:
How Kevin's proprietary "capability testing technique" works — measuring awareness, interest, intensity, and format preference — and why even well-executed research has its limits when creative transformation hasn't yet occurredThe behind-the-scenes story of how Greta Gerwig pitched her vision for Barbie in a New York brownstone, describing the film as existing "somewhere between a stiletto and a Birkenstock," and how that single creative framing changed everythingWhy two previous Barbie film attempts — one with Anne Hathaway and one with Amy Schumer — never made it to production, and what pattern Kevin saw that made him skeptical a third attempt would succeedHow Barbie's marketing team turned the color pink into a full visual language and cultural movement, driving audiences to theaters dressed in Pepto-Bismol pink and making the film a genuine zeitgeist momentHow this pivotal mistake reshaped Kevin's approach to advising clients, leading him to offer a new kind of hope to filmmakers and studios working with IP or projects that appear to have limited audience potential on paper
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
People
Kevin Goetz
Robbie Brenner
Margot Robbie
Tom Ackerley
Greta Gerwig
Noah Baumbach
Ryan Gosling
America Ferrera
Issa Rae
Anne Hathaway
Amy Schumer
Companies & Organizations
Screen Engine/ASI
Mattel
Simon & Schuster
Films & Franchises
Barbie (2023)
Dallas Buyers Club
Fast & Furious franchise
List of Barbie films
Books
Audienceology
How to Score in Hollywood
Podcasts
Don't Kill the Messenger
Mattel IP Referenced
Barbie
Hot Wheels
Websites & Social Media
KevinGoetz360.com
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SUMMARIES - Nathaniel Nuon's Unconventional Philosophy on Filmmaking Tech (The Uber Analogy and the Viagra Principle)
2026/08/18
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In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness dive deep into the extraordinary life and career of Nathaniel Nuon, a Cambodian refugee-turned Emmy-winning filmmaker who transformed personal and financial limitations into groundbreaking creative work. They explore how a childhood spent watching a broken, silent television set trained Nathaniel's brain to become a master storyteller, and how that same constraint-driven mindset led him to make an Emmy-winning short film about one of history's most overlooked genocides. From designing a feature film specifically for visually impaired audiences to using a cheap VR gaming puck to replicate Hollywood-grade camera tracking, Nathaniel's story is a masterclass in turning obstacles into innovation.
We also talk about:
How Nathaniel's Cambodian refugee background and his family's adoption of American names shaped his identity and creative driveThe psychological science behind why cognitive constraints — like missing audio — can actually hardwire the brain to become a more powerful problem-solving storytellerThe concept of inclusive design in filmmaking and how designing for marginalized audiences (such as the visually impaired) can unintentionally produce a richer, more atmospheric experience for all audiencesThe culture and output of Full Sail University as a 24/7 creative incubator, and how its high-pressure environment produced 140 graduates who worked on Oscar-nominated films in a single yearA forward-looking philosophical question about the future of filmmaking: as AI, LED walls, and game engines make visual perfection cheap and ubiquitous, will audiences eventually crave the imperfection of practical, physical effects just to feel something authentically human?
People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:
People
Nathaniel Nuon
Jordan Ladd
Valerie Jane Parker
Films & Projects
Residue
The Voices
Shows Referenced
Mister Ed
John Wick
Marvel Cinematic Universe
Organizations & Companies
Nuon Films
3rd Realm Creations
Full Sail University
Technology & Products
HTC Vive Tracker
LED walls / virtual production
RED
ARRI Alexa
DSLR cameras
Viagra (sildenafil)
Uber
Historical Events & Concepts
*Operation Menu
Khmer Rouge
Audio description
Parallax
*This was actually a US Air Force operation, not a CIA operation — Strategic Air Command B-52 strikes authorized by Nixon and Kissinger (1969–70), kept secret from Congress. The CIA did run separate covert programs in Cambodia, including training Cambodian irregulars, which is the premise Residue actually dramatizes.
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443 - X-Men ’97 Cast - Rogue, Morph & Nightcrawler Walk Into a Podcast: The Voice Acting Craft Behind X-Men '97
2026/08/12
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In this episode, we sit down with three legendary voice actors from the animated series X-Men '97 — Lenore Zann (Rogue), JP Karliak (Morph), and Adrian Hough (Nightcrawler) — to discuss Season 2 of the hit Disney+ show, the craft of voice acting, and the personal journeys that have shaped each of their careers. The trio shares candid reflections on preserving character continuity across decades, the challenges facing working voice actors in an AI-driven industry, and how their art intersects with social justice, environmental advocacy, and political engagement. From cheat day meals to what it truly means to "MAKE IT," this conversation is as heartfelt as it is illuminating.
We also talk about:
The origins of Rogue's iconic catchphrase "sugar" and how it became part of Lenore Zann's everyday speech, blurring the line between character and performerThe nostalgia for the 1990s circulating on social media, and why JP Karliak believes humans were never biologically designed to process the volume of information we consume today via the internetThe very real threat of AI voice cloning in the animation industry, including Adrian Hough's discovery of unauthorized voice copies of his characters Nightcrawler and Haytham Kenway, and what that means for workhorse voice actorsThe role the COVID-19 pandemic played in reviving interest in X-Men: The Animated Series on Disney+, and how that surge in viewership likely led directly to the creation of X-Men '97Each guest's deep personal commitment to causes beyond entertainment, including environmental advocacy for old-growth forests (Adrian), LGBTQIA+ voice actor support and nonpartisan voter engagement (JP), and social/political justice work rooted in Lenore's 12-year career as a Canadian politician
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
X-Men '97
X-Men: The Animated Series
Disney+
Revival
Peacock
Audible / Amazon
Star Wars: Visions
My Life with the Walter Boys
Marvel Mash-Up
Bob Trevino Likes It
Our Hero Balthazar
Holy Days
Breaker Morant
Mephisto
The Ruling Class
The Chant of Jimmie Blacksmith
Picnic at Hanging Rock
My Brilliant Career
Storm Hawks
The Boss Baby
CoComelon
Yo Gabba Gabba!
Bluey
The Joy Luck Club
The Aussie Six
People
Lenore Zann
JP Karliak
Adrian Hough
Tracie Laymon
Ted Welch
Oscar Boyson
Nat Boltt
Miriam Margolyes
Jacki Weaver
Judy Davis
Sam Neill
Edward Woodward
Jack Thompson
Bryan Brown
Peter O'Toole
Anthony Hopkins / Hannibal Lecter
Ian McKellen
Patrick Stewart
Tom Kenny / SpongeBob
Chris Rock
Ella Fitzgerald
Marilyn Monroe
Neil Gaiman / The Graveyard Book
David Letterman / Jennifer Aniston
Characters
X-Force
X-Factor
Polaris
Jubilee / Sunspot
Graydon Creed
Carol Danvers / Ms. Marvel
Mystique / Destiny
Bishop
Gambit / Remy LeBeau
Poison Ivy
Haytham Kenway
Organizations, Tools & Books
Queer Box
Nerds Vote
Nashville Film Festival
Postly
Canva
Riverside
A Rogue's Tale
Lilith Fair
MTV Video Music Awards
Cocoanut Grove
Places
Vancouver Island
Calgary
London, UK
Montreal
Paris
New York / Off-Broadway
Wisconsin
Hollywood
Social Media
Adrian Hough
JP Karliak
@queerboxacademy
nerdsvote.com / @nerdsvote
@LenoreZann (Instagram) / @ZannLenore (X)
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442 - Illuminai Studios Founder Jesse Weglein on Being Laid Off at Pixar, Why AI Is the Brush, Not the Artist, and Animation's Next Frontier
2026/08/07
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In this episode, Chris, Nick, and Producer Papa Bear sit down with Jesse Weglein — 15 years at Pixar, now founder of Illuminai Studios — joining live from the foot of Mount Fuji. Jesse worked on Up, Toy Story 3, and Toy Story 4 before a mass layoff ended that run and pushed him into building his own studio. He's using AI as a tool, not a replacement, to make original animated films for audiences the industry keeps overlooking — including his short film Roar, which Whoopi Goldberg picked for the Tribeca Film Festival.
We also talk about:
The creative culture at Pixar and what makes it impossible to replicate — including how directors would skip watching their own films in theaters to study the audience's reactions insteadThe global divide on AI in animation, from China's breakneck adoption of the technology to Japan's philosophical hesitation around whether AI can carry the "soul" of an artist's visionThe economic fragility of the animation business model, including the trend of outsourcing animation overseas and how AI might offer a path to reclaiming domestic production jobsThe importance of traditional art training as the essential foundation before any aspiring animator or filmmaker touches AI tools — and why skipping that foundation produces hollow, soulless contentThe passionate debate around AI's role in filmmaking, including the social policing happening on different platforms, copyright and trademark risks when using AI-generated imagery, and the distinction between using AI to accelerate creativity versus allowing it to replace it entirely
People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:
People
Jesse Weglein
John Lasseter
Steve Jobs
Ed Catmull
Pete Docter
Frank Oz
Andrew Stanton
Whoopi Goldberg
Phil Tippett
Tim McLaughlin
John McCarthy
Akira Kurosawa
Hayao Miyazaki
Fritz Lang
Toshiro Mifune
Lionel Messi
Ray Kurzweil
Isaac Asimov
Dario Amodei
Sam Altman
Brian Adler
Barbara Lowenstein
Films & Shows
Up
Toy Story 3
Toy Story 4
Toy Story 5
The Incredibles
ROAR
Shine (Illuminai Studios)
The Color Purple
Metropolis (1927)
Seven Samurai
High and Low
The Wind Rises
Spirited Away
Rashomon
Red Beard
Starship Troopers
Jumpin' Jack Flash
Sister Act
A.I. Artificial Intelligence
Disclosure Day
The Boy and the Heron
The Odyssey
Companies & Organizations
Pixar Animation Studios
ILLUMINAI Studios
Industrial Light & Magic (ILM)
Google DeepMind
Tribeca Film Festival
Texas A&M Visualization
Anthropic
OpenAI / ChatGPT
Apple
Technicolor
Nashville Film Festival
WGA
Software & Technology
Maya
Presto (Pixar's proprietary tool)
Photoshop
Suno
Ray tracing / render farm
Websites & Social Media
illuminaistudios.com
nashvillefilmfestival.org
Books & Products
Mastering Film Marketing (ebook)
Make It Academy
Up Lego Set
Luxo Jr.
Places
Emeryville, California
Lake Kawaguchi / Mount Fuji
Tokyo, Japan
San Francisco, California
Lucas Building/Steve Jobs Building
Dartmouth College / Dartmouth workshop, 1956
Other References
The Dan Patrick Show
The View
2026 FIFA World Cup
NBA Playoffs
WHALE 52 — Suite For Man, Boy, And Whale
Dear Upstairs Neighbors
Joseph McCarthy / McCarthyism
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SUMMARIES - Actress Christine Woods - How to Walk Into Any Audition Room and Completely Flip the Power Dynamic in Your Favor
2026/08/04
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In this episode, AI Hosts Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness take a deep dive into the life, craft, and career philosophy of actress Christine Woods — known for her roles in HBO's Hello Ladies, ABC's Flash Forward, and The Walking Dead — exploring how a profoundly shy girl from Lake Forest, California built a sustainable, authentic acting career by rejecting Hollywood's arbitrary rules. Drawing from a wide-ranging interview hosted by Chris, he unpacks how Christine transformed her fear of failure into a powerful, service-driven approach to storytelling that flips the traditional power dynamic of the audition room on its head. From her early tap dancing days and her grandfather Sterling's love of classic movie musicals to her unconventional college path, her manager's game-changing advice, and her expanding work as a producer and director, this episode offers a masterclass in building a creative career on your own terms.
We also talk about:
How Christine's grandfather Sterling — a hulking, ex-military man who secretly loved classic movie musicals — introduced her to films like Meet Me in St. Louis and Gene Kelly and Judy Garland, fundamentally shaping her belief that performance is communal storytelling, not ego-driven spectacleWhy Christine chose to attend the University of Arizona on a singing and vocal jazz scholarship rather than audition for prestigious conservatories like Juilliard or Carnegie Mellon, and how she made a calculated pivot to a Bachelor of Fine Arts in musical theater to fill a critical gap in her trainingHow severe creative constraints on low-budget indie sets — such as having only one hour left at a location to capture a crucial, emotionally exhausting scene — can actually serve as a psychological gift by forcing actors entirely into the present moment and bypassing the internal criticThe fascinating physiological mechanics behind Christine's on-set habit of performing classical vocal warm-ups right before the director calls action — including how stretching the jaw and engaging the vocal cords stimulates the vagus nerve to calm the parasympathetic nervous systemChristine's expanding work behind the camera, including producing and directing experimental comedy shorts with friends, such as one brilliantly titled Finding the A*****e, as a way to tell stories on her own terms without waiting for permission from industry gatekeepers
People, Places, Products, and References Mentioned:
People
Christine Woods (actress)
Sterling Woods (Christine's grandfather)
Eric Emery (Christine's first LA manager)
Joe Sill
Gene Kelly
Judy Garland
Billy Corgan
Frank Ocean
Shows, Films & Projects
Hello Ladies
FlashForward
The Walking Dead
Meet Me in St. Louis
Stray
Finding the A*****e — experimental comedy short
Schools & Programs
University of Arizona
Juilliard
Carnegie Mellon
Social Media
@TrickyBear (Christine Woods' Instagram)
Bands / Artists
The Smashing Pumpkins
Frank Ocean
Places
Lake Forest, California
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