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Cafeteria Christian started as a place for people who love Jesus but are so over the version of Christianity that forgets love, justice, and curiosity. Hosted by Pastor Natalia Terfa and Pastor Emmy Kegler, the show is a mix of faith conversations, cultural commentary, and the beautiful, complicated mess of trying to follow Jesus in the real world. From biblical deep dives to big feelings about the world, Emmy and Natalia create a space where honesty and hope coexist. Together, we're reclaiming the term "Cafeteria Christian" — because when it comes to faith, you really can take what you like and leave the rest.

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#379 Faith, Politics, and How We Go From Here

2026/10/19

What do we do about our faith when we step into the voting booth? Do we leave it outside or bring it with us? Does our faith influence our politics, or do our politics influence our faith? Is one better than the other? Emmy and Natalia talk about what it means to be a person of faith trying to do the right thing on voting day. Article on the Male Loneliness Epidemic that Natalia mentioned Give to support the pod! www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#378 "Do Better You Guys" - Jesus.

2026/10/12

Emmy and Natalia take a break from current events to talk about the middle section of Matthew's Gospel, and why some harsh talk from Jesus might actually be what we all need right now. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#377 We Can't Care About Everything (but we're sure gonna try!)

2026/10/05

Emmy and Natalia talk about all the things that are happening in the world and what exactly we're supposed to do about it. Care about everything? Nothing? Some middle place where we care about some of it but not all of it and then how do we do that exactly? www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#376 You Don't Need a Calling with Damon Garcia

2026/09/28

Natalia welcomes author, public theologian, and artist Damon Garcia to talk about his new book "You Don't Need a Calling: An Anti-Capitalist Manifesto for a Life of Purpose." www.damongarcia.com www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#375 Macklemore, Ms Rachel, and the Myth of Neutrality

2026/09/21

Emmy and Natalia get a little spicy as we talk about Ed Sheeran, Macklemore, Ms Rachel, and how it all connects to Jesus in Matthew's Gospel. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#374 Catching Up and Leaning Away from Despair

2026/09/14

Natalia welcomes back Emmy from maternity leave! Yey! They do a little catching up and then talk about why we should or should not be nihilists and why we still, despite everything, lean into hope instead of despair. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#373 Body Narrative Repair - with Ellie Roscher

2026/09/07

Natalia welcomes back Ellie Roscher (again!) to talk about bodies and in particular female bodies and how the narrative has turned back to being smaller and quieter and what we do with that. www.ellieroscher.com www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#372 Damned if She Does, with Sarah Stankorb

2026/08/31

Natalia welcomes author and journalist Sarah Stankorb to talk about her book, "Damned if She Does: Why Women Quit Church and What It Means for the Future of Religion." Join Sarah in the Twin Cities: September 10 at 7pm at Moon Palace Books Sarah's website Sarah's substack Patreon

#371 Fair Game - part 2, with Ellie Roscher

2026/08/24

Natalia welcomes back author Ellie Roscher to talk about trans athletes in sports and how the conversation has already changed in the short 6 months since her book came out. Book Ellie's Website Previous Ellie CC Episodes (SO MANY, but here are a few): Tiny Things The Embodied Path The Body Stories Embodiment as a Spiritual Practice Search Ellie Roscher Cafeteria Christian in apple podcasts to find a whole list!

#370 If Make It Make Sense Were a Person - with Janice Lagata

2026/08/17

Natalia welcomes back longtime friend of the pod Janice Lagata for a fiery talk about social capitalism, exvangelicalism, and what it means when we do things for appearances instead of just doing them for real. Patreon Connect with Janice: instagram www.janicelagata.com

#369 Enneagram and Faith with Holly Johnson

2026/08/10

Natalia welcomes Pastor Holly Johnson to help answer a listener question about the enneagram and how it is connected (or can be connected) to faith. Enneagram Made Easy, by Elizabeth Wagele and Renee Baron The Enneagram, by Helen Palmer Patreon

#368 It All Counts - with Natalia Terfa

2026/06/29

We welcome back Ellie Roscher to host and celebrate Natalia's new book: It All Counts: Finding God Everywhere They Told You Not To Look. It's out July 21, preorders are available now. Link for autographed copies Patreon

#367 A Grab Bag of Topics

2026/06/22

Emmy and Natalia get to a bunch of listener requests/questions/topics that are not one episode on their own, but together make a wide-ranging and varied episode of your adhd dreams. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#366 iSn'T pRiDe A sIn

2026/06/15

Emmy and Natalia celebrate PRIDE! But isn't pride a sin? No guys. Not this kind. We promise. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

#365 What Are Sacraments Anyway?

2026/06/08

Emmy and Natalia talk about the sacraments, why we have them, and why they still matter. www.patreon.com/cafeteriachristian

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4.8 out of 5

388 reviews

★★★★★

Ath01018 2025/12/08

Love Natalia and Emmy!

My weekly comfort podcast. Absolutely love listening to Natalia and Emmy.

★★★★★

Charlie Belle's Mom 2022/02/09

Too Soon?

Just listening to my first episode (Feb. 2022) and am already feeling pretty okay about putting my review out there. Just listening to these two sharp...

★★★★★

Rgierok 2021/04/19

Tune in, listen up!

Two female pastors, a black man and an awesome white lady is the perfect combination for a podcast that challenges the status quo of religion and delv...

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Rcwei 2021/02/06

Not just for Christians

I’m a happily Jewish person who is curious about Christianity, since it’s the ubiquitous religious framework in the US. I grew up hearing that Christi...

★★★★★

d.glory 2020/09/06

Great non-dingbat podcast

I had a religious Christian upbringing in the rural US and left the church because my understanding of God and what Christians are called to do in the...

★★★★★

mymy144440 2020/08/18

Love this podcast

Love love love. Highly recommend this podcast. I feel like through listening to this podcast I’ve not only learned about current events and God but I’...

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margaret shell 2020/08/11

So helpful

Emmy, Natalia, Nora, and Jesse do a wonderful job of putting words to some of the struggles I have had with church and faith and especially other Chri...

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Sam_Gil 2020/07/22

Unbiblical False Gospel

I listened to 3 different episodes from this show and heretical is a deep understatement. This show unashamedly advocates pantheism and universalism u...

★★★★★

sunnryz 2019/11/26

Wonderful

I have been really struggling lately with labeling myself a Christian in this awful political climate. I’ve found myself avoiding going to my church t...

★★★★★

Gmitcham 2019/11/12

Fantastic podcast

Love the hosts, love the topics, love the love. Came across this podcast after my father passed suddenly and I felt myself drifting from church becaus...

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