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Conversations at the intersection of politics, religion, and culture: Commonweal Magazine editor Dominic Preziosi hosts The Commonweal Podcast, a regular compendium of in-depth interviews, discussions, and profiles presented by Commonweal’s editors and contributors.
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Ep. 170 - The Women Behind Civil Rights
2026/10/16
The field of history is under fire these days, and not just from conservatives.
Perhaps as a result of a need for unambiguous heroes in dark, unsettled times, historians also face pressure to simplify the historical record when it comes to liberal causes—and perhaps nowhere more so than in the country’s long struggle for racial equality.
“I wanted to write about Civil Rights in a way that made Martin Luther King, Jr. a bit player,” said Marcia Chatelain, author of the new choral biography How Bright the Path Grows: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the March on Washington.
The women featured—among them Rosa Parks, Mahalia Jackson, and Marian Anderson—are imperfect. But that’s exactly what makes them interesting, their stories worth reexamining.
On this episode, Chatelain joins Commonweal associate editor Griffin Oleynick to talk about her book, motherhood, and vocation.
Plus, senior correspondent Heidi Schlumpf speaks with Dominic Preziosi about the latest in Catholic news, including Pope Leo’s health, and the Pentagon toying with the idea of broadcasting an execution, a decision President Trump walked back just after the segment was recorded.
For further reading:
Marcia Chatelain on Georgetown and slavery
Gary Dorrien on the Black Social Gospel
Mollie Wilson O’Reilly on Trump’s destructive impulses
Ep. 169 - Love Songs
2026/10/02
Readers of Commonweal and beyond will likely recognize Lawrence Joseph, the author of many books of poetry and prose, and whose work has often appeared in the pages of our magazine.
We’re delighted to report that Larry has just published a new collection of poems, entitled Precisely Now. It’s a collection of thirty-two poems, some of which appeared for the first time in Commonweal, that he began shortly after the first election of Donald Trump in 2017 and continued writing right up to the present.
They are poems of linguistic compression and colloquial precision that, as our literary critic Anthony Domestico puts it, “match anything published in the past half-century in their formal control and moral witness.”
On this episode, senior editor Matthew Boudway talks with Larry Joseph about the
new collection, the poet’s process of composition, and the theology of grace.
For further reading
Anthony Domestico reviews Precisely Now
Lawrence Joseph’s poem entitled ‘Now Light’
Lawrence Joseph speaks about So Where Are We?
Ep. 168 - ‘All We Want Is to Live’
2026/09/17
By now, many of us are familiar with the realities of the Trump administration’s violent campaign of mass deportations. But how often do we listen to the stories of some of the most vulnerable victims—young children and teenagers separated from their families?
Gabrielle Oliveira, a professor at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, did just that. For her ethnographic study Now We Are Here, she followed sixteen migrant families from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, and her native Brazil from 2018 to 2021.
All of Oliveira’s subjects experienced some form of family separation as a result of U.S. immigration policy under Donald Trump. Yet all also managed to remain in the United States, where their educational journeys remain the single most important factor in their lives.
On this episode, Oliveira speaks with Commonweal Director of Mission and Partnership Claudia Avila Cosnahan about how these families have metabolized the trauma of separation.
Plus, Commonweal Senior Correspondent Heidi Schlumpf speaks with Dominic Preziosi about the latest in Catholic news, including the midterms, new Catholic converts, and the U.S. Bishops’ pointed letter to Donald Trump on behalf of Haitians living in the United States.
For further reading:
Heidi Schlumpf on new Catholic converts
Jonathan Heaps on the Catholic theologian joining DHS
A photo essay of migrants forced to remain in Mexico
Ep. 167 - The Objects We Call Bibles
2026/08/27
What happens when we read the Bible? Why do we read it? What does it do to us?
There are at least as many answers as there are people. Our interpretations of the Bible depend not only on what we read—which texts, which translations, etc.—but how and especially with whom we read it.
On this episode, professor of spirituality—and editor of the Commonweal Podcast—David Dault joins associate editor Griffin Oleynick to discuss the ethics of reading the Bible, detailed in his new book The Accessorized Bible.
Core to Dault’s argument are the Jewish concepts of tikkun olam, or repairing the world, and tzniut, indicating modesty. Reading—and even willfully misreading—the Bible with these in mind can help commit us to liberation instead of coercion, to peacemaking rather than violence.
For further reading:
Christian Wiman on the Bible as poetry
Luke Timothy Johnson on the history of the Bible
Sarah Ruden on translating the Bible
Ep. 166 - A Middle Way for AI?
2026/08/05
Debates over artificial intelligence tend to vacillate between the poles of blustery optimism and spiraling despair, with AI boosters making stratospheric claims for the technology just as critics vociferously denounce its capacity for disruption.
But could there in fact be a via media on AI, a path that celebrates technological advances while also respecting limits and safeguards?
The key to such a shift, argues ethicist Meghan Sullivan, a professor of philosophy at Notre Dame, where she also directs the Institute for Ethics and the Common Good, is a commitment to prioritizing human life over technocratic paradigms.
That means, above all, foregrounding human dignity—a concept the Catholic Church is well-positioned to articulate.
Plus, Commonweal senior correspondent Heidi Schlumpf reports on Catholic news from the past few weeks, including schism, ICE roundups, and new polling about young people and religion.
For further reading:
Our symposium on Pope Leo’s Magnifica Humanitas
Meghan Sullivan on the DELTA framework for AI
Heidi Schlumpf on the ‘tradwife’ phenomenon
Ep. 165 - Is Anti-Vaxx Really Anti-Science?
2026/07/09
Vaccines have encountered resistance ever since they were invented in the late eighteenth century.
But vaccine skepticism has never been as vocal—or as widespread—as it has become in the United States in recent years.
Much of that has to do with the policies of the Trump administration, in particular Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., whose drastic changes at the CDC have reversed decades of American vaccination policy.
But what explains such broad receptivity to vaccine skepticism among wide swaths of Americans?
On this episode, Commonweal associate editor Regina Munch speaks with Kiera Ganga Kieffer, a professor of religious studies at Fairfield University. Her new book, Unvaccinated Under God, offers a provocative reading of the history of vaccine hesitancy in America.
Anti-vaccination beliefs are less a matter of scientific misinformation, Kieffer argues, than forms of religious expression, in which vaccines themselves become proxies for broader existential concerns about justice and morality.
For further reading:
Regina Munch on Kennedy’s crusade against vaccination
Michael Peppard on persuading anti-vaxxers during the pandemic
M. Anthony Mills on rebuilding America’s scientific infrastructure
Ep. 164 - How to Exit ‘Enemy Mode’ on Immigration
2026/06/25
Even as Donald Trump’s approval ratings continue to plummet across the country, voters in the deep-red state of Wyoming, where registered Republicans outnumber Democrats by more than six to one, remain solidly in support of the president.
So it took real courage for Bishop Steven Biegler—appointed by Pope Francis in 2017 to lead the Diocese of Cheyenne, encompassing all of Wyoming—to promulgate a pastoral letter on migration just a few months ago.
Bishop Biegler is keen to point out that Be a Merciful Neighbor is not a political document.
Instead it asks Catholics to evaluate policies of mass deportation in light of the values of the Gospel—especially Christ’s unequivocal call to welcome the stranger.
On this episode, Bishop Biegler speaks about the letter, and its surprising reception by Wyoming Catholics, with Commonweal Senior Correspondent Heidi Schlumpf.
Before their interview, Schlumpf also updates listeners on recent news affecting American Catholics.
For further reading:
Heidi Schlumpf on the Church’s continued fight on behalf of migrants
Pablo Christian Soenen on moral ambiguity in the borderlands
Paul Moses on the evils of immigration enforcement under Tom Homan
The City and the Cross—Episode 3: Dots on a Map
2026/06/24
Following the 1989 parish closures, the infrastructure that had supported Black Catholic leadership in Detroit was largely dismantled. Surviving parishes tried to rebuild community, while parishes that were merged struggled to forge new identities. Meanwhile, Cardinal Edmund Szoka, the archbishop who oversaw the closures, left the city for Rome to take a top Vatican finance post.
In the third and final episode of “The City and the Cross,” host and Commonweal Centennial Fellow Aaron Robertson weighs the total cost of the 1989 parish closures—not just the loss of buildings, but the erosion of the systems that once nurtured Black Catholic vocations. He tells the story of Father John McKenzie, a Black priest who tried to serve Detroit’sBlack Catholic community with little institutional support, and whose own struggle raises a pointed question for the Church today: decades after 1989, how committed is the archdiocese to investing in Black Catholic communities?
Slowly, another question also starts to emerge: did the Black Catholic Movement ultimately succeed or did it fail? Robertson asks the very people who lived through it.
Today, as the Detroit archdiocese undergoes another round of restructuring, Black Catholics are bracing for the worst, but they refuse to walk away from the spiritual centers they built and still call home.
Featured Voices
Marjorie Gabriel-Burrow, a musician who helped bring Black musical styles into Catholic Mass;
Norah Duncan IV, a nationally acclaimed composer who watched the 1989 closures unfold from inside the archdiocesan chancery;
Judith McNeeley, the daughter of Deacon Allen McNeeley, who was a member of St. Bernard parish until its 1989 closure;
Dr. M. Shawn Copeland, a former nun from Detroit, now one of the world's leading Catholic theologians;
Father Tom Lumpkin, a founding member of the Detroit Catholic Pastoral Alliance (DCPA);
Father Norm Thomas, the longtime pastor of Sacred Heart and a cofounder of the DCPA who led the public resistance to the 1989 closures (archival);
Father John McKenzie, a Black former Benedictine monk ordained a priest in Detroit in 2019, whose path eventually led him out of the Roman Catholic Church;
Bishop Walter Hurley, Cardinal Edmund Szoka's chief of staff;
Cathey DeSantis, a nun and member of Sacred Heart who became an organizer, and eventually director, of the DCPA;
Steve Wasko, a Secular Franciscan and member of a Detroit-area anti-racism coalition that formed in the wake of George Floyd’s murder;
Dr. Shannen Dee Williams, a historian of Black Catholicism whose scholarship frames Detroit as the radical center of the national Black Catholic Movement;
and Patricia Montemurri, a former Detroit Free Press reporter who chronicled the 1989 closures and broke the news of Szoka’s Vatican appointment.
The City and the Cross—Episode 2: A Padlock on All the Doors
2026/06/17
In September 1988, Cardinal Edmund Szoka, the archbishop of Detroit, announced via a closed-circuit television broadcast that the archdiocese would close dozens of inner-city parishes in Detroit within a year. Churches on the city’s predominantly Black east side would be disproportionately affected.
The announcement triggered an immediate outcry: parishioners met at Sacred Heart, Detroit's Black Catholic “mother church,” and held vigils outside locked churches; the Detroit Catholic Pastoral Alliance became the organizing hub of resistance; protestors marched up and down Woodward Avenue; and a few local residents planted mums outside the cardinal’s residence, one for each parish the archdiocese eventually closed.
In the second episode of "The City and the Cross," host and Commonweal Centennial Fellow Aaron Robertson chronicles the community organizers who coordinated these efforts, a journalist who covered the story, the Catholic priests caught between their vows of obedience and their commitment to Black parishioners, and the prominent Black Catholic leader—a former Black Panther—who had to deliver the news of the parish closures to the communities he faithfully tried to serve.
Featured Voices:
Walter Hurley, Cardinal Szoka's chief of staff, who oversaw the implementation of the closures;
Patricia Montemurri, a Detroit Free Press reporter who covered the Catholic Church in Detroit for decades;
Father Norm Thomas, the Lebanese American pastor of Sacred Heart Church and a co-founder of the Detroit Catholic Pastoral Alliance (DCPA), who became the public face of the fight against the closures (archival);
Cathey DeSantis, a former nun who became one of the lead organizers of the DCPA;
Eric Blount, a Sacred Heart parishioner and minister who became an outspoken public voice against the archdiocese's plan
Frances May, a Black laywoman who co-led the Alliance for Detroit Churches and directly challenged Cardinal Szoka's authority (archival);
Wyatt Jones III, whose father Wyatt Jones Jr. delivered the news of the closures to the communities he had devoted his life to serving;
Michelle McKinney and her mother Jackie Mahome, who watched St. Agnes—the church where Jackie had built pioneering Black history programs—be merged out of existence.
Ep. 163 - ‘A Coherent Picture of Reality’
2026/06/11
What can I know? What must I do? What may I hope?
These questions, originally formulated by philosopher Immanuel Kant, are some of the most essential ones that we ask. Attempting to answer them can take a lifetime, if we can answer them at all.
On this episode, we’re featuring an interview with Christopher Beha, the novelist and former editor of Harper’s Magazine whose new book, Why I Am Not an Atheist: The Confessions of a Skeptical Believer, offers an account of how he has grappled with these same questions.
Beha grew up Catholic, but became a committed atheist in college after his twin brother was nearly killed in a car accident, and he himself was diagnosed with a serious illness.
Beha’s journey through rival forms of atheism—scientific materialism and romantic idealism—and the experience of falling in love ultimately led him back to Catholicism.
Here, shares why he believes Catholicism offers a complete and coherent picture of reality.
For further reading:
Costica Bradatan on the emotional history of atheism
Rand Richards Cooper speaks with Beha about his novels
George Scialabba on the romantic poets
The City and the Cross—Episode 1: From the Ground Up
2026/06/10
In the first episode of Commonweal's new podcast series, The City and the Cross, host and inaugural Centennial Fellow Aaron Robertson traces the origins and flowering of Black Catholic Detroit throughout the twentieth century—from the era of Jim Crow, when Black Catholics were regularly excluded from white parishes, through the 1960s and 1970s, when the modernizing reforms of the Second Vatican Council coincided with the civil-rights and Black Power movements.
Robertson speaks with the musicians who transformed Catholic liturgy by bringing gospel into the sanctuary, the parishioners who built Black Catholic communities from scratch, and the activists who compelled the local Church to recognize Black leadership.
For more information about the episode, click here. To learn more about Commonweal's Centennial Fellowship, click here.
The City and the Cross—Series Trailer
2026/06/08
In Commonweal's first narrative podcast series, inaugural Centennial Fellow Aaron Robertson chronicles the rise, erosion, and defiant survival of Black Catholic Detroit—a community that led its own spiritual renaissance in the 1960s and 1970s only to watch the institutional Church fail to sustain it over subsequent decades.
The three-part series premieres Wednesday, June 10.
Ep. 162 - Subversive Cartography
2026/06/02
For as long as humans have been able to write, they’ve made maps.
Sometimes maps show paths to the sacred. More often, they depict borders and boundaries, becoming tools of exclusion and control.
Not so for Sandy Rodriguez, a third-generation Chicana artist based in Los Angeles.
Her work, made with traditional indigenous paper and pigments, offers a pointed alternative to the map of the United States of America as we know it.
On this episode, Rodriguez speaks with Commonweal’s Claudia Avila Cosnahan and Griffin Oleynick.
She shows how the land—la tierra insurgente—can rise up and resist the violence carried out by ICE and the Trump administration against our immigrant neighbors.
Plus, Commonweal Senior Correspondent Heidi Schlumpf delivers a roundup of the latest Catholic news.
For further reading:
Claudia Avila Cosnahan on the siege of Los Angeles
Nicole-Ann Lobo on Chicana artist-activist Yolanda López
Alejandro Anreus on the Hispanic Society Museum and Library
Ep. 161 - Catholicism and Community Organizing
2026/05/14
As bad as things have gotten for democracy in America, it no longer suffices to simply denounce those in power. Nor is it enough to march, call members of Congress, or vote, important though all of those things are.
Instead we have to find new ways of building power—a process that begins with grassroots community organizing. But what exactly does that look like?
On this episode, Commonweal Mission and Partnerships director Claudia Avila Cosnahan is joined by two organizers: Nicholas Hayes-Mota, a public theologian and professor at Santa Clara University, and Michael Okinczyc-Cruz, co-founder of the Chicago-based Coalition for Spiritual and Public Life and the author of a new book on organizing.
Besides explaining the history of organizing in America, and arguing for its necessity, Hayes-Mota and Okinczyc-Cruz share how organizing can also help the Catholic Church advocate for justice and peace throughout the world.
For further reading:
Claudia Avila Cosnahan on the Chavez revelations
Heidi Sclumpf on CSPL’s Mass outside an ICE facility
Joanna Arellano on the spiritual solace of organizing
Ep. 160 - Humble Work
2026/04/30
Catholics have been thinking about vocations for a long time—and not only in terms of becoming a priest or member of a religious order.
The Church teaches that every person is called by God to do something particular, to play some unique role in the ongoing creation and salvation of the world.
But what happens when our working lives don't align with our true vocations? What should we do when we find ourselves stuck doing jobs we don’t like?
Fr. James Martin knows something about that, having spent his teenage summers and most of his twenties doing a variety of odd jobs.
It’s the subject of his new book, Work in Progress: Confessions of a Busboy, Dishwasher, Caddy, Usher, Factory Worker, Bank Teller, Corporate Tool, and Priest.
On this episode, Fr. Martin joins associate editor Griffin Oleynick to speak about what that work has meant to him, and how he still draws from its lessons in humility and grace.
Plus: Heidi Schlumpf reports on the latest developments in American Catholicism, including the Trump administration’s conflict with the Vatican, the recent rise in Catholic conversions, and the fiftieth anniversary of the Women’s Ordination Conference.
For further reading:
Ryan Burge on the “great sort” in American religion
Heidi Schlumpf on the Women’s Ordination Conference
Massimo Faggioli on “cool” Catholicism and new baptisms
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