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426 episodes
Language
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Peter Shepherd & Jen WaldmanExplicit
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Date created
2018/09/23
Latest episode
2026/10/20
Average duration
19 min.
Release period
7 days
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A weekly podcast for curious people ready to explore the art and science of being human from every possible angle: macro, micro, Australian, American, tall, short and everything in between.
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421. Leading People Who Don't Want To Be Led
2026/10/20
This week, after moving beyond the obvious answer to the question, Pete and Jen brainstorm on possible tactics for attempting to lead those who don't wish to be led.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What does covert leadership look like?Why is it important to ask someone if they are okay, if you notice their behavior shifting?How can you get used to the fact that not everyone can be enrolled in the collective vision?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
420. Jen's Big Oopsie
2026/10/13
After a big mistake, Jen confides in Pete, and together they brainstorm (with some wise advice from Jen's daughter) on how to confront mistakes when they happen, and how to move on from them.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What are some tactics for moving on from a big mistake?How might we assume best intentions of those around us?How might we be more quick to forgive ourselves and others?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
419. Thinking Out Loud
2026/10/06
This week, Jen and Pete noodle on an activity that they do together every week: thinking out loud.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What might be some fears and hesitancy around thinking out loud?How might leaders encourage more thinking out loud on their teams?What are some tools and tactics to starting thinking out loud more frequently?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
418. The Witch
2026/09/29
After visiting a witch, Jen shares her experience with Pete, and together, they noodle on the power of a reframe.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What is the gift to be found out of some of our hardships?When is a gentler approach important to solve a problem? And a more firm approach?Why is important to seek help or feedback from a trusted mentor or colleague?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
417. FOBA
2026/09/22
Another week, another acronym, as Pete and Jen noodle on the fear of the atrophy of the brain, due to reliance on AI.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
How might we limit and monitor our usage of AI?How might we find more joy in the usage of our brain?What is the importance of having a human coach, and relying on peers rather than a robot?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
416. FOYF
2026/09/15
After a recent vacation adventure, Jen shares with Pete an experience of falling on her face, and together they noodle on the advantages of failures.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What makes us return to an activity, after we have failed?How can we set others up for success, even in difficult environments?How might we actually seek out more things to fail at?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
415. Lessons From Pete's Mum
2026/09/08
Inspired by Pete's mum, Pete and Jen noodle on the qualities of leadership that allow everyone in the room to succeed, whether in the back of a car, on a stage, or in an office.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What are the correlations between parenting and leadership?How might you lead by example, as opposed to with words?In what way is behavior and energy contagious to a full team? And how might we consider that in the approach to our work?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
414. Disney Map
2026/09/01
Taking inspiration from the Disney Map, Jen and Pete noodle on what their own mind maps might look like, and how they might be created in the first place.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What is the Disney Map?
How might seemingly disparate projects actually be related?
What does the 30,000 foot map look like for Pete and Jen? And what about the sea level map?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
413. Looking Back
2026/08/25
After a trip down memory lane this week, Jen noodles with Pete on the ways in which we reflect, and how we might learn from our past self.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What are different tactics for reflecting on the past?
Why is it important to notice the repetitions in the problems we face?
How might we look to the past for evidence or help with where we are now?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
412. Counting Strokes
2026/08/18
This week, Pete shares with Jen some lessons he has learned from his swimming coach, on how to measure progress...by stopping the measuring.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
Why might our existing tools actually hinder our forward momentum?
Where might we be able to rely on ourselves more, rather than searching for external validation?
Why is it important to go slow, in order to go fast?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
411. Proposals
2026/08/11
After submitting many proposals between the two of them, Pete and Jen noodle on their proposal writing process, and how they might help their clients to write their own.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What are the three key questions to answer when writing a proposal?
How might you identify the core problem that your proposal is meant to solve?
Why is it important to consider who will be reading the proposal you submit?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
410. Grown Up Sh*t
2026/08/05
This week, Pete brings his sighs and his aha moments around grown up sh*t to Jen, and they unpack it all together.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
Why is adulting so hard sometimes?
What tactics might we utilize to navigate difficult situations and conversations?
How might we think about finding solutions and take ownership of the problems we encounter?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
409. Unpacking
2026/07/28
After a recent episode on packing, Jen and Pete spend this week mulling over the idea of its opposite: unpacking.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What are some tactics we might use to make it easier to manage change?
How might we assess what everyone on our team needs before making a plan?
What surprises might we find when we take a different path than planned?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
408. Strategy
2026/07/21
After thinking over and over about the concept of strategy, Pete turns to Jen to help him unravel what strategy actually is and how it can be best utilized by individuals and companies.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
What even is strategy?
How might we move from our goals to a clear strategy?
What are some tactics to stay focused on the things we actually have control over?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
407. Packing
2026/07/14
As Jen prepares for her summer travel, she and Pete noodle on the activity of packing, and the sometimes difficult decisions of what to bring and what to leave behind.
Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:
Why is making decisions so hard?
How might the usage of constraints and rules be beneficial when making choices?
What are some tactics to deliberately carry less around with us?
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Pete's work: humanperiscope.com · Jen's work: jenwaldman.com
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ChrisRiceNY 2023/11/03
Listened to EVERY episode.
This podcast has expanded my world so much. So thankful to these two hosts for sharing their knowledge, ideas, and views. They poke holes in my belief...
Rivers aaaaa 2022/03/01
Great listen!
I love the dynamic and the wisdom and interesting insights! Super well done!
knarfydna 2021/08/31
Innovation and Infrastructure
Love the parallels in the most recent episode (153) with the US government’s current grappling with infrastructure bills specifically in regard to cli...
bliven 2021/03/03
Wonderful Podcast!
So smart, funny and insightful!
Jen and Pete challenge you to think outside of your comfortable zone and encourage you to reach further then you ever...
JCKW_ 2021/02/09
This podcast is excellent
Jen and Pete offer so much knowledge and incredible insight in generous, and noodle-filled episodes. Their perspectives allow all humans an access poi...
DBL S 2020/07/28
Tremendous Thought Leaders
I stumbled upon this wonderful Podcast during one of my routine sunrise walks. Jen and Peter are an amazing combo that play well off each other. The f...
heyitscdubs 2020/04/24
Important Work from Amazing Humans!
The amount of personal development work I’ve done since listening to TLATSOI has been outstanding. The synchronization of life during this quarantine ...
SelMcCurdy 2020/04/15
I learn so much from this podcast!
I wake up Tuesday mornings excited to get a dose of Jen and Pete’s phenomenal weekly insights! They get to the point, speak clearly and leave one with...
TheJenB 2020/01/15
Staying motivated in Guam
I was a student of Jen’s from NYC and now I live in Guam (Navy). Being buried in a military lifestyle and community (one I never thought I’d be a par...
jessiebaby33 2019/11/21
Love this podcast!!
I can’t get enough of this podcast. Thought provoking, insightful & light hearted. Jen & Pete are the perfect combo. Relatively short podcast packed w...
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