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196 episodes
Language
EnglishPublisher
Aledade IncExplicit
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Date created
2018/10/10
Latest episode
2026/01/05
Average duration
25 min.
Release period
22 days
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The ACO Show explores the latest developments in the U.S. health care system, with a focus on value-based care and accountable care organizations (ACOs). Join co-hosts Josh Israel, MD, senior medical director of Quality, and Sean Cavanaugh, chief of Policy at Aledade, in conversations with experts, policymakers and clinicians to understand how value-based care is good for patients, practices and society. The ACO Show is produced by Aledade.
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198. The CMMI ACCESS Model explained
2026/01/05
Catherine Olexa-Meadors, head of growth and partnerships at Town Hall Ventures, joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss the recently announced ACCESS (Advancing Chronic Care with Effective, Scalable Solutions) Model from the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (CMMI), also known as the CMS Innovation Center. They explain the new payment system, which includes outcome-aligned payments tied to demonstrating improved patient outcomes, and how advances in technology, specifically in digital patient engagement, could help this model succeed. They also explore challenges, including the delay in the announcement of payment rates and the concern that patients not in an accountable care organization (ACO) may not have someone monitoring the total cost of care.
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Listen to Episode 193: Breaking down CMMI's new strategy with Abe Sutton, director of CMMI, and Farzad Mostashari, MD
197. The Future of Primary Care with Shawn Martin
2025/12/01
Shawn Martin, executive vice president and CEO of the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP), joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss challenges with the future of primary care, particularly independent primary care practices. Martin believes that value-based care has helped sustain rural health care practices and that the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP) will serve as the foundation for value-based care moving forward. Martin stresses the benefits of partnering with support organizations, like accountable care organizations (ACOs), in succeeding in value-based care and outlines opportunities for the AAFP to partner with ACOs to support physician independence, provide value-based care training and advocate for rural health care funding.
196. What is the National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA)? with Margaret E. O’Kane
2025/11/03
Margaret E. O’Kane, CEO, president and founder of the National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA), joins Joshua Israel, MD and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss how the organization has helped transform quality measurement in the American health care system. Over the past 35 years, O'Kane and the NCQA have developed quality measurement standards for clinicians while striving to minimize the administrative workload that comes with an expanding array of quality metrics. O’Kane advocates for a future where quality measures are better integrated into health care technology systems, emphasizing that systemic changes are crucial for improving quality, rather than solely focusing on individual physicians.
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195. Unlocking Independence for Primary Care Clinicians
2025/10/06
Join Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh, along with Brittney Anderson, MD, family physician and podcaster (“Physicians Hanging a Shingle”) and Dan Bowles, general manager of practice health at Aledade, to discuss Anderson’s journey to owning her own private practice, and how she supports other physicians seeking independence. Both Anderson and Bowles believe value-based care is crucial for independent primary care practices, and that greater exposure to independent practice models is essential to provide physicians with more employment options. As Bowles explains, this is the driving force behind Aledade’s effort to support physicians looking for information and a path to their own independent practice.
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194. 2024 MSSP Results with Farzad Mostashari, MD and Sandeep Mann, MD
2025/09/15
Join Josh Israel, MD and Sean Cavanaugh in their video debut as they discuss the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP) results for 2024 released by CMS with Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, MD They explore how Aledade Accountable Care Organizations (ACOs) earned more than $1 billion in total savings and continue to improve performance year over year, including substantially reducing hospitalizations. We also sit down with Sandeep Mann, MD, primary care physician and Aledade partner since 2015, to explore how his practice has thrived in value-based care.
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193. Breaking down CMMI’s new strategy with Abe Sutton and Farzad Mostashari, M.D.
2025/07/28
Abe Sutton, director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (CMMI), sits down with Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Sean Cavanaugh to unpack the new strategic framework for CMMI models. Sutton explores CMMI’s focus on three pillars: promoting evidence-based prevention, improving patient access to their health data and driving choice and competition in health care markets. He discusses the recently announced WISeR (Wasteful and Inappropriate Service Reduction) Model, which aims to leverage artificial intelligence (AI) in reviewing prior-authorization requests to prevent harmful or unnecessary services. He also talks about the Ambulatory Specialty Model (ASM), which would reward specialists for improving health outcomes in Medicare patients with lower back pain or heart failure and CMS efforts to improve risk adjustment through permanent programs and testing new ideas on a smaller scale through the Innovation Center.
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192. The Road Show: What makes a good ACO partner?
2025/07/23
Join Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh for part two of their most recent road trip visiting primary care practices from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. First, they visited Dr. Arvinder Bir and Dr. Seema Bir, Aledade partners in California, to discuss how Aledade has helped enable their practice to reduce patient hospitalizations and remain independent. Next, they visited Varesh Chaurasia, CEO of HealthyU Clinics, and Dr. Lauren Havard, CMO, in Phoenix, Arizona to discuss what they are looking for in an accountable care organization (ACO) partner, emphasizing hands-on experience in local markets. Finally, they met with Dr. Salil Trehan in Amarillo, Texas, whose practice has previously partnered with multiple ACO enablers, to gain insights into what sets great ACO partners apart.
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191. Road Show Reflections with Farzad Mostashari, M.D. and Mat Kendall
2025/07/07
Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Mat Kendall, president, join Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh to share insights from their recent road trip to primary care practices from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. They reflect how conversations about value-based care have evolved over the past 11 years — and what organizations are trying to learn when deciding whether to join an accountable care organization and who to partner with on that journey. Join us to learn why Aledade stands out in this ever-evolving landscape.
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190. The Rising Cost of Skin Substitutes with Dr. Caroline Fife and Dr. Christopher Apostol
2025/06/09
Dr. Caroline Fife and Dr. Christopher Apostol join us to explore the rising cost of skin substitutes in wound care, which Aledade data suggests is a tenfold increase in the last three years. Dr. Fife explains that rising costs are due to an increase in both cost of the product and increased usage and she addresses the real concerns such as the way many skin substitutes are exempt from FDA review, offer rebates or discounts to clinicians and how some Medicare payment models incentivize the use of more expensive treatments. Dr. Apostol also notes how wound care has evolved through the lens of primary care, including an increase in specialist utilization and mobile wound care teams.
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189. Do ACOs Really Save Money? Dr. Amelia Bond and Dr. Dhruv Khullar Explain
2025/05/27
Dr. Amelia Bond and Dr. Dhruv Khullar join us to discuss the long-term savings of accountable care organizations (ACOs) in the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP). Their recent study in JAMA found that ACOs generate increasing savings over time, with physician-led ACOs demonstrating more significant savings. Learn about their study’s methodology, policy implications for The Centers of Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) and where Dr. Bond and Dr. Khullar will focus their research next.
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188. Natalie Davis on Why You Shouldn’t Talk about Value-Based Care
2025/05/19
Natalie Davis, CEO of United States of Care, joins us to talk about the challenges of discussing value-based care with patients and policymakers. Through extensive research with over 30,000 individuals, Davis shares that the term "value-based care" often evokes negative connotations of low-quality care. When presented with the benefits of value-based care without using the term itself, people were most interested in spending more time with their doctors and receiving personalized, quality care. Join us to learn more about effectively communicating with patients and policymakers about value-based care.
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187. Behavioral Health Care Accessibility
2025/04/21
A majority of those with behavioral health challenges lack access to high-quality care. Gabe Diop, co-founder of Rula, a behavioral health physician group, joins the ACO Show to discuss how Rula is making behavioral health care more accessible by partnering with primary care practices to connect patients with the care they need. Dr. Samantha Cotler, family medicine physician in Wall, N.J., explains how her partnership with Rula has improved patient outcomes and made it easier to connect patients with in-network physicians.
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186. How International Medical Graduates Help Ease the US Physician Shortage
2025/04/07
The U.S. faces a significant shortage of primary care physicians, particularly in rural and under-resourced communities. Join Eli Greenspan, policy advisor at Foley Hoag LLP, and Dan Bowles, general manager of Practice Health Solutions at Aledade, to highlight the role that international medical graduates play in addressing this shortage. They explain the complex process that international medical graduates must complete to practice in the U.S., and how the physician shortage is connected to immigration policy. This includes the Conrad 30 Waiver Program, which incentivizes graduates to practice in under-resourced areas. While this program is valuable, it’s also limited in scope, so our guests explore additional legislative efforts to improve and expand these programs.
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185. Crossing the Chasm in Value-Based Care with Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Geoffrey Moore
2025/03/20
Aledade CEO, Dr. Farzad Mostashari, and best-selling author Geoffrey Moore explore how the concepts in Moore’s influential book, “Crossing the Chasm” can be applied to accelerate adoption of value-based care. In order to move to mainstream adoption, it’s crucial to focus on the niche market of “pragmatists in pain” who have an urgent need that the current system isn’t solving. Our co-host Sean Cavanaugh, chief policy officer at Aledade, points out that oftentimes in the traditional fee-for-service model, the pragmatists in pain are independent primary care clinicians. Moore and Dr. Mostashari also share insights and recommendations for the new administration from their recent article, including focusing on primary care, defining the competition and paving the way for simplifiers who can help clinicians navigate the complexities of value-based care. Using this framework, the Center for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) could accelerate expansion of value-based care to the majority of the nation’s primary care clinicians as well as their patients.
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184. Bias and Equity with Artificial Intelligence in Health Care
2025/03/10
Join us this episode as our guests from Aledade, Dennis Liubyvyi, Director of Artificial Intelligence (AI) Research, and Jette Henderson, Staff AI Researcher, explain the world of AI and machine learning and its potentially transformative impact on health care. Dennis shares how AI models at Aledade are reshaping patient care by analyzing vast amounts of patient data to predict critical health events such as kidney disease progression and congestive heart failure. The goal is to provide more timely, targeted interventions to patients who need them most. Jette also notes the challenges that exist in these predictive models, particularly regarding biases within data sets, which can lead to inaccurate predictions and how Aledade is developing tools to help identify and mitigate these biases.
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Podcast reviews
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AshRun12 2024/10/24
Great podcast!
Very informative podcast about the delivery of value based healthcare
Pdxgirl72 2021/09/23
Awesome show for folks interested in learning more about ACOs.
Love this podcast!
obacker19 2020/10/19
Timely, insightful and actionable! 🙌
Whether you’re well established as a healthcare innovator, or just getting started as a catalyst for change - this is a must-listen podcast for you! J...
JLBMD 2019/12/11
Wow, the Best!
Can we get the gentleman from episode 9 to run CMS?!? He's THE BEST!!!
Lori_Suzanne 2019/07/08
Great contribution,
Inspiring leadership
Ahmed and Travis:taking on Ris 2018/12/31
Ahmed and Travis:taking on Risk
Excellent!
Rich Obertots 2018/11/03
Now I Get It ... and Can't Get Enough
I have been aware of Aledade for more than a year. I surely believed the company was leading-edge and was important to our healthcare system's transfo...
pcpwannabe 2018/10/29
I love this podcast!
Episode w/ Sean Cavanaugh does an excellent job of describing value-based care and ACOs in a simple way!
doczoe 2018/10/19
Enlightening and fascinating
Great origin story with a tantalizing glimpse into the future of our healthcare system
Crystal Wrigley 2018/10/18
Inspiration & Innovation at its Finest!
Great company, great leader, amazingly inspirational & innovative movement!
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