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In 2016, doctors gave young mother Jackie Aviles six months to live. As cancer spread through her bones and lymph nodes, she prepared her children for her death and even chose a casket. Now, ten years cancer-free, Jackie tells Steve how faith, medicine, grief, and what she describes as God’s supernatural healing shaped her family’s journey. Jackie and her husband, pastor Emilio, also faced the pain of leading a church while grieving—and learned that listening can matter more than offering easy reassurance. Their conversation explores hope when healing doesn’t come, the difference between caring and carrying, and why peace may matter more than clarity. More from Jackie Aviles: Jackie Aviles’ website Learn about Embassy Church Episode Resources: More about Matt Chandler Learn about the Bright City Church team Scripture Referenced: 2 Corinthians 4 ESV 2 Corinthians 1:3–4 ESV 2 Corinthians 12:9 ESV Romans 5:3–5 ESV Philippians 4:7 ESV Romans 8:28 ESV Philippians 1:21 ESV Philippians 1:6 ESV Isaiah 40:31 ESV Isaiah 53:5 ESV Mark 4:35–41 ESV John 15:5 ESV Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bad news isn’t the main story of the church. On Being Human, Steve Cuss talks with pastor Ryan Keating and Resource Global founder Tommy Lee about faith in action—from feeding thousands of refugees in Turkey to equipping Christian leaders and expanding access to education in Indonesia. As part of the “God’s Expansive Kingdom” series, these conversations explore global ministry, faith and work, and the lasting impact of small, faithful investments in people. Discover how noticing God at work can interrupt anxiety, renew hope, and help you see fresh possibilities in your own community. Episode Resources: Learn about & support Resource Global Learn about Fellowship Church in Connecticut Learn about Doctor Share Timothy Keller’s Every Good Endeavor More about Tommy Lee More about Ryan Keating Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this recap episode of Being Human, hosts Steve and Lisa Cuss explore how God's kingdom expands through mental health ministry and spiritual formation. They highlight innovative church-based counseling models, including a "clinic in a box" concept, and community mental health collectives. The episode features interviews with clinical counselor Alex Thompson and Doug McKelvie, writer of the Every Moment Holy liturgy series. They discuss how ancient prayers provide grounding for modern struggles. Steve and Lisa also share personal stories of global ministry encounters, life-giving habits, and the power of liturgical prayer to connect believers across generations and cultures. Episode Resources: Learn about: Women Leaders Alliance Build your Life Giving List Partner with Cumberland Counseling Centers Douglas McKelvey’s Every Moment Holy Douglas McKelvey’s Every Moment Holy: Rites of Passage Book of Common Prayer (online version) Thomas Keating’s contemplative prayer Explore the Hope Collective More from Alexandra Thompson: More about Alexandra Thompson, LCSW More from Douglas McKelvey: Every Moment Holy Website Every Moment Holy Liturgy Downloads Every Moment Holy Live Experience Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss speaks with Douglas McKelvey, author of the Every Moment Holy series—books offering liturgical prayers for everyday and significant life moments. Both share personal journeys from skepticism toward formal liturgy to discovering its deep spiritual value. Douglas recounts how the Book of Common Prayer transformed his faith during a period of theological uncertainty, while Steve reflects on his experience as a hospital chaplain. They explore the power of communal liturgy, the specificity of prayers for modern moments, and how Douglas's latest volume, Rites of Passage, helps young adults connect with God throughout life's transitions. Episode Resources: Douglas McKelvey’s Every Moment Holy Douglas McKelvey’s Every Moment Holy: Rites of Passage Book of Common Prayer (online version) More about Andrew Peterson Scripture Referenced: Psalm 131 ESV More from Douglas McKelvey: Every Moment Holy Website Every Moment Holy Liturgy Downloads Every Moment Holy Live Experience Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss chats with Alexandra Thompson, founder of Cumberland Counseling Centers, a Georgia-based nonprofit embedding state-licensed counseling clinics inside local churches. Alex introduces her "clinic in a box" model, which allows churches to launch professional mental health services within weeks. The conversation covers trauma healing, EMDR therapy, faith integration, and the church's historical role as a community healing center.  Episode Resources: More about Alexandra Thompson, LCSW Partner with Cumberland Counseling Centers Overview of EMDR What Is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy? Scripture Referenced: Mark 12:30-31 ESV Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss launches the new theme "God's Expansive Kingdom." Drawing from years of international travel, Steve shares inspiring stories of Christians making a difference worldwide—from floating hospitals in Southeast Asia to a small women's Bible study group running a halfway house for former inmates. He also addresses the prevalence of negative narratives about the church online, acknowledging that abuse must be exposed while cautioning against cynicism and shame-driven reporting. Steve emphasizes that despite troubling headlines, countless faithful believers are quietly and powerfully advancing God's kingdom globally. Episode Resources: Steve Cuss’s Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs Scripture Referenced: Luke 18:9–14 ESV Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of Being Human, Steve and Lisa Cuss explore how politics, social media, and the stories we tell ourselves shape who we become. Pastor and political analyst Ryan Burge explains how social media amplifies political extremes, distorts public discourse, and increasingly allows partisanship to shape religious identity. Jessie Cruickshank and Julia Schmaltz, co-authors of Becoming Good News, unpack how internalized narratives, legalism, perfectionism, and the Christian “Übermensch” ideal—the pressure to become a superhuman believer—can hinder spiritual growth. Steve and Lisa use these conversations to offer a path toward self-awareness, grace, presence, and embracing weakness as essential to genuine faith and transformation. Original Episodes: Being Human: How Memory, Identity, and Story Shape Discipleship with Jessie Cruickshank & Julia Schmaltz Being Human: How Politics Hijacked the Pulpit with Ryan Burge Ryan Burge’s The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us Jessie Cruickshank & Julia Schmaltz’s Becoming Good News: Reimagining Discipleship Through Identity, Story, and Science Nietzsche’s concept of the Übermensch More from Ryan Burge: Ryan’s Graphs about Religion Ryan on X (formerly Twitter) More from Jessie Cruickshank and Julia Schmaltz: Jessie Cruickshank’s Ordinary Discipleship podcast Julia Schmaltz’s Sermons Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Steve Cuss welcomes physician Eric Shoemaker to explore the intersection of physical health, neuroscience, and spiritual fitness. Eric explains how injury and pain recovery mirror emotional and spiritual healing, and breaks down the difference between the body's "threat" and "challenge" responses, showing how faith can reshape our nervous system's reactions. Steve and Eric discuss whole-body discipleship, identity in Christ, and practical micro-habits to help rewire the brain toward trust over fear.  Episode Resources: Eric’s article The Neurobiology of Victory: How the physical reality of performance reveals the spiritual power of faith   Dan Allender’s Leading with a Limp: Take Full Advantage of Your Most Powerful Weakness Scripture Referenced: Genesis 32:22-32 (ESV) More from Eric Shoemaker: Eric Shoemaker’s Substack: The Divine Design Lab Follow Eric on instagram Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss is joined by pastor and Harvard-trained brain scientist Jessie Cruickshank and first-time guest Julia Schmaltz to explore whether changing our internal narratives can enable transformation. Jessie and Julia discuss their co-authored book, Becoming Good News, and examine spiritual growth and discipleship through the lenses of theology, neuroscience, and personal experience. They challenge unrealistic “superhuman” expectations in church culture, advocate for grace-based discipleship, and emphasize that spiritual maturity means becoming more fully who God created us to be—joyful, childlike, and close to Jesus. Episode Resources: Jessie Cruickshank & Julia Schmaltz’s Becoming Good News: Reimagining Discipleship Through Identity, Story, and Science Jessie Cruickshank’s Ordinary Discipleship: How God Wires Us for the Adventure of Transformation Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s Nobel lecture: The Quest for Peace and Justice Nietzsche’s concept of the Übermensch Jessie Cruickshank’s previous appearance on Being Human: Episode 171 Scripture Referenced: 2 Corinthians 3 (ESV) Psalm 139 (ESV) More from: Jessie Cruickshank’s Ordinary Discipleship podcast Julia Schmaltz’s Sermons Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss speaks with political scientist and pastor Ryan Burge about his book The Vanishing Church. They explore how American Christianity has become increasingly radicalized by political partisanship, the role of social media algorithms in amplifying extreme voices, and the disappearance of moderate congregations. Burge discusses how partisanship now shapes religious identity rather than the reverse, the impact of COVID had on churches, and how the church has become a "hospital for the healthy."  Episode Resources: Ryan Burge’s The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us Michael Wear’s CT review of Ryan’s work on the “big church sort” Pew research: How the Pandemic Has Affected Attendance at U.S. Religious Services A Look at The Donatist controversy Who was Count Zinzendorf? Scripture Referenced: 1 John 1:5 (ESV)  Matthew 20:16; Luke 13:30; Mark 10:31 (ESV) Mark 2:17 (ESV) More from Ryan Burge: Ryan’s Graphs about Religion Ryan on X (formerly Twitter) Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this special travelogue episode of Being Human, host Steve Cuss records from Tinos, Greece, where he discovered a profound Orthodox Christian pilgrimage tradition. Pilgrims crawl a half-mile uphill to a famous church, seeking healing. Steve reflects on desperation, hope, and faith across traditions, he draws on MLK's words: "If you can't walk, crawl—but keep moving forward." He invites listeners to consider their own pace and bring their whole selves to God. Episode Resources: Learn about Christian Missionary Fellowship International Read about the church of Our Lady of Tinos, Greece History of Our Lady of Tinos (Panagia Evangelistria) More about Fred Craddock Scripture Referenced: Revelation 21:5 (ESV) 2 Corinthians 5:17 (ESV) Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hosts Steve and Lisa Cuss address listener questions about navigating judgmental believers, generational anger, and caregiving burnout. They encourage listeners to define their own positions without trying to change others, explore emotions beneath anger, and build connections through small, consistent moments. Steve and Lisa  also revisit recent guests Matt Smallbone and Jenny Brown to offer insights on relating to strong personalities, praying the Lord's Prayer intentionally, and recognizing unhealthy family patterns.  Episode Resources: Matt Smallbone’s The Prayer Experiment: How Praying Like Jesus Realigns Everything - Our Thoughts, Our Hearts, and Our Posture Toward God and the World Jenny Brown’s The Parenting Paradox: Loving Our Children by Giving Them Space to Grow Explore the Enneagram Brad Gray & Brad Nelson’s Bringing Heaven Here: How The Lord's Prayer Can Change Your Life and Our World  Brad Gray: The Lord's Prayer (documentary) What is the Anger Iceberg Scripture Referenced: The Lord’s Prayer: Matthew 6:9–13 (ESV) Read Matthew 7:3–5 ESV More From Matt Smallbone: Matt Smallbone’s website Church of the City Downtown teaching podcast More From Jenny Brown: Jenny Brown’s Website Jenny Brown’s Author Page Jenny Brown’s Growing Yourself Up: How to bring your best to all of life's relationships Parent Hope Project Parent Hope Podcast Family Systems Institute Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Steve Cuss speaks with theologian Dr. Andrew Ollerton about his book God's Book: An Honest Look at the Bible's Seven Toughest Topics. They discuss the importance of honestly engaging with difficult biblical passages rather than avoiding them, and how wrestling with tough questions can deepen faith. Andrew shares his own intellectual and emotional struggles, including reconciling science with Genesis and coping with loss. They also explore the role of community, spiritual practices, and humility in staying connected to God. Episode Resources: Andrew Ollerson’s God’s Book: An Honest Look at the Bible’s 7 Toughest Topics More about Bear Grylls  Scripture Referenced: Genesis 3 (ESV) Matthew 1:1–17 (ESV) Genesis 1–2 (ESV) Joshua 6 (ESV) The Book of Job (ESV) Genesis 28:10–22 (ESV) 2 Kings 6:8–23 (ESV) Luke 24:13–35 (ESV) Numbers 22:21–35 (ESV) Numbers 13–14 (ESV) Joshua 14:6–15  (ESV) More From Dr. Andrew Ollerton: Andrew Ollerton’s website  Learn more about Andrew Ollerton Andrew’s eight-session course: The Bible Course Andrew’s The Family Bible Course Sign up for Steve’s Newsletter & Podcast Reminders Capable Life Newsletter Get the Assets & Liabilities pdf and the Life Giving List Join Steve at an Upcoming Intensive Capable Life Intensives Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Steve Cus welcomes Lee C. Camp—professor, podcaster, and author—for a rich conversation about anxiety, systems theory, and human flourishing. Lee shares his personal journey with anxiety and depression, and how discovering differentiation through therapy transformed his relationships and emotional health. They explore legalism within the Churches of Christ tradition and its lasting emotional impact. The discussion also touches on societal reactivity, the purpose behind Lee's podcast No Small Endeavor, and the importance of creating hospitable spaces for honest dialogue. Lee closes with reflections on gliding, music, and simple morning rituals as grounding practices. Episode Resources: Malcolm Gladwell’s The Alabama Murders: Part 1: The True Church Steve Cuss’ Managing Leadership Anxiety David Schnarch’s Passionate Marriage David McCullough’s The Wright Brothers Books by Parker J. Palmer Books by Thomas Merton Murray Bowen’s family systems theory More about Differentiation of self Scripture Referenced: Mark 12:30–31 (ESV) More From Lee C. Camp: Lee C. Camp’s Scandalous Witness: A Little Political Manifesto for Christians Books by Lee C. Camp Listen to No Small Endeavor and The Subtext Sign up for Lee C. Camp’s newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Host Steve and Clarissa Moll explore how invisible dynamics like reactivity and anxiety affect leadership, relationships, and our connection with God. Steve shares six tools for diffusing reactivity—vulnerability, laughter, curiosity, clarity, love, and redirecting anxiety—while emphasizing playfulness as an underutilized organizational resource. They discuss how collective laughter and singing reset the nervous system, and how God's playful nature, reflected in creation, makes these habits spiritually meaningful. Episode Resources: More about Trisha Taylor More about The Chosen More about Ladysmith Black Mambazo  More From Clarissa Moll: Explore Clarissa Moll’s website Read Clarissa Moll’s substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices