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More than a decade ago, Eric Osborne co-founded the world’s first public psilocybin retreat In Jamaica (MycoMeditations) on the heels of Michael Pollan’s revelatory New Yorker feature, The Trip Treatment. Eventually, Eric left the world of wellness retreats behind to establish Psanctuary, a Louisville, Ky., church that allowed him to create an ideal environment where he could build a permanent and legal community that focuses on people and healing with psilocybin. Eric Osborne shares his amazing journey from teen snake-charmer to spiritual leader and healer, explains why a church is the best place to do psychedelic work and reveals what he learned from his first experience with psilocybin at age 19 that he keeps exploring even now, this week on Spirit Gym. Learn more about Eric and his work at his website and his Psanctuary website (where you can check out his My Mushroom Map mini-course). Sign up to read the first chapter of his upcoming book, The Psychedelic Reformation, at this link. Find Eric on social media via Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and TikTok. For Spirit Gym listeners: Eric is offering Spirit Gym listeners a 10 percent discount on all three courses Psanctuary teaches — his upcoming live, three-session My Mushroom Map Bootcamp (via Zoom) starting on Monday, Oct. 26 and Level 1: MySelf Training and Level 2: Friends and Family Spaceholder Training geared for people seeking out deeper journeys — through this special link. Save 10 percent on these courses by using the promo code SPIRITGYM at checkout. Timestamps 3:39 Eric’s scientific obsession with snakes introduced him to the world of taboo subjects, like mushrooms. 10:57 A sovereign being in a spiritual space. 19:23 “I've learned more from plant medicines than all the books I've ever read in my life and I've read a lot of them.” 24:14 Do you fear consuming mushrooms because you’ll find out what entities are already possessing you? 35:24 Applying material science to psychedelics can be a real problem. 41:40 What Eric learned in his first mushroom experience that he will keep exploring for the rest of his life. 48:18 Eric believes a church is the best place to do psychedelic work. 57:45 Why do so many consider scientism a religion? 1:02:13 Are mushrooms conscious entities? 1:16:31 Eric communicates with mushrooms. 1:49:44 Eric leaves the Jamaica retreat he created to build Psanctuary, a Kentucky-based church. 1:59:49 “Quantum biology will teach us more about the psychedelic experience and what is happening in these states than psychology will.” 2:08:06 “Losing your mind is the entry point to becoming everything.” 2:13:41 Eric is very cautious before he considers playing a role in a ceremony. 2:23:39 Eric’s philosophy on working with someone in a ceremony: “I’m here to help you learn how to use this medicine on your own.” 2:29:24 Could psychedelic therapy wake people up to their own personal empowerment or perpetuate their codependency? 2:37:45 People can come to psilocybin with help from clinical professionals but they’re really not equipped to support you through this sacred experience. 2:47:38 “We cannot truly be ourselves or discover ourselves without a community.” Resources Eric’s recent podcast conversation with Kyle Kingsbury Rastafari Podcaster Shawn Ryan shares his experience with Ibogaine on YouTube How Psychedelics Work: The Hidden Mind and Our Power to Heal by Dr. Robin Carhart-Harris Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata Pantheism and panentheism The work of Hunter S. Thompson, Thomas Merton, Paul Stamets, Iain McGilchrist, Albert Hofmann and Rupert Sheldrake Owning Your Own Shadow: Understanding The Dark Side of Psyche by Robert A. Johnson Paul’s podcast conversations with Hamilton Souther, Robert Forte, Dr. Nathan Riley and Sasha Latypova Paul’s solocasts on Lucifer, Christ and Ahriman and Shadow Work Science and the Akashic Field: An Integral Theory of Everything by Ervin Laszlo The Unknown Spirit by Jean Charon The Are You Possessed? audio program with Paul and Kaedrich Olsen Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility by James Carse  Food of the Gods by Terence McKenna Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

What’s contained/not contained in vaccines and why isn’t it regulated? After all these years, why is the polio vaccine still a sacred cow? Why has Robert F. Kennedy Jr. not made the impact in human health at the federal level so many people expected?  Explore the scientific truth behind the fiction with former pharmaceutical R&D executive Sasha Latypova this week on Spirit Gym. Read Sasha’s work on Substack, including her Summary of Everything and Quick Links Update January 2026. Timestamps 4:19 Most pharmaceutical professionals don’t understand biologics — drugs derived from living organisms — are totally different. 6:28 By the spring of 2020 (the beginning of COVID), Sasha noticed the FDA was behaving in ways she’d never seen before. 10:18 The TeGenero scandal. 19:15 Falling into mental traps and pretending into real problems. 25:10 The differing concepts of error versus intention. 37:10 “Germ theory consciousness is fundamentally based on fear.” 43:12 Fear-mongering and propaganda from medical “experts” really works. 49:56 “People need to understand that virology is not a science.” 56:59 The truth about cancer. 1:08:14 If cancer is driven by exposures, how did its demographic profile change so radically over the course of a century? 1:15:04 Nixon’s war on cancer. 1:21:22 The great business of imaginary spirit cooking. 1:30:09 The polio vaccine is a sacred cow. 1:45:43 The Biologics Control Act/Virus-Toxin Law of 1902. 1:52:01 Nothing about biologics is regulated, even in vaccines. 1:56:37 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wasn’t the defender for public health Sasha, Paul and many others expected. 2:02:07 “[RFK Jr.] has no values and does what his handlers tell him to do.” 2:17:28 Glyphosate. 2:28:08 Diffusion tactics that distract you from the truth. 2:35:25 “Smoking is hazardous to your health” falsehoods. 2:59:17 “Don’t endow tools [like AI] with superhuman properties.” 3:02:50 The crisis of daily living is always the same, so take as much responsibility as you can for the decisions you make. 3:10:51 “Make sure your picture of reality is accurate.” Resources Sasha’s What is Cancer: a Comprehensive Theory of Causes and Mechanisms essay on Substack Sasha’s 175+ Years of Cancer: The Big Picture the Establishment Doesn’t Want You to See essay on Substack Sasha’s conversation with Dr. Andrew Kaufman on YouTube Sasha’s conversations with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Militarized Healthcare and leaked Moderna files The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul, John Wilkinson and Robert Merton Hydroxychloroquine VAERS How Bad is My Batch website NIH’s Cancer Stat Facts Voltaire on Inoculation The Mahoney strain (polio) Secretory IgA Plato’s allegory of the cave Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) The Adelphi Genetics Forum British Doctors Study Zeta potential The Science Delusion by Rupert Sheldrake Paul’s podcast conversations with Dr. Alexis Cowan, Dr. Tom Cowan and Dr. Sherry Tenpenny What Really Makes You Ill?: Why Everything You Thought About Disease is Wrong by Dawn Lester and David Parker The work of Charles Richet, Theron Randolph, Edward Edinger, Sir Robert McCarrison and Dr. Alton Ochsner Outbreak (movie) DNA: Pirates of the Sacred Spiral by Leonard Horowitz Against The Machine: On the Unmaking of Humanity by Paul Kingsnorth Missing Links with Gregg Braden on Gaia Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

Rather than struggle for perfection, analytical psychologist Carl Jung believes being a well-rounded man/woman is a better, smarter and healthier goal in life. So, what exactly are the traits of a well-rounded woman? Paul explores what that means in today’s world with wife, mother and painter Natasha Kingsbury (her husband is the amazing Kyle Kingsbury) who keeps her mind wide open to new possibilities this week on Spirit Gym. Check out Natasha and her family on Instagram. Contact Natasha through her husband’s Kingsbu website. Download a PDF of Natasha’s amazing art she and Paul discuss toward the end of their conversation at this link. Timestamps 5:45 If you could go back in time, would you change anything about your past? 10:35 Natasha’s introduction to plant medicines. 21:14 Meridians and bee/wasp stings. 27:29 Natasha’s first painting of a human being — Paul — was a perfect one. 36:46 “I’ve found it’s easier to do deeper healing work if you have a healthy, stable woman with you.” 42:21 Natasha’s worldview: Prepare for the future. 58:27 Balance. 1:11:05 “I want [my kids] to hear both sides of an issue.” 1:27:18 Over the past decade, Natasha has learned more about her body and how it works than ever before. 1:39:09 Red Tent rituals. 1:46:20 Natasha recommends The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz as a great postpartum book for women. 2:04:33 The version of open relationships for Natasha and Kyle was very different than others. 2:09:07 Natasha and Kyle return to monogamy and learned not to overshare so much. 2:31:17 The 18-month honeymoon phase of a relationship is real. 2:43:10 What art means to Natasha. 2:47:51 Natasha sits with God when she paints. 2:52:22 Natasha shares some of her paintings she gifts to others. 3:00:36 The snow leopard connection. 3:09:12 Natasha knows the gender of your baby before she/he is born. 3:18:18 “All of my friends know I want crow friends.” Resources Thus Spoke The Plant by Monica Gagliano and Suzanne Simard The Secret Life of Plants documentary on YouTube The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird Primary Perception: Biocommunication With Plants, Living Foods and Human Cells by Cleve Backster The Ever-Present Origin Part 1 by Jean Gebser Nonviolent Communication: The Basics As I Know and Use Them by Wayland Myers The work of Rowena Kryder Paul’s podcast conversations with Aubrey Marcus and Kyle Kingsbury, Dr. Keith Witt, Emily Abbott and Mike Salemi Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

It’s just a fact that people are far more tuned into current events — AI, data centers, bad TV shows and politics — while their eyes are glued to their mobile phones than what they put in their mouths, thus putting their health at a far greater risk than ever before. The bigger problem: There’s a wealth of research that shows how and why eating nutrient-rich organic food and grass-fed meats really matters but few know about it outside the realm of research. Dr. Autumn Smith, co-founder of Paleovalley and Wild Pastures, shares what she’s learned about glycine (one of the most overlooked nutrients in modern nutrition), brain nutrition and what you should be avoiding this week on Spirit Gym. Download Autumn’s presentation she shares during her Spirit Gym conversation with Paul — The Glycine Gap — at this link. Learn more about Autumn’s inspiring journey on YouTube and watch her eight-part ReThink Meat series here. Follow Autumn on social media via Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Watch/listen to her ReThink Health podcast at the Paleovalley website, YouTube, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get them. For Living 4D listeners: Check out Paleovalley’s sister company Wild Pastures and their amazing variety wild-caught seafood, pasture-raised chicken and pork and 100 percent grass-fed and finished beef. Sign up for a home delivery subscription and save 20 percent off for life along with free shipping and $15 on your first order. And, don’t forget to save 15 percent on any Paleovalley products you buy at this link. Timestamps 8:21 What is glycine? 13:25 Who has the highest levels of glycine in their bodies: Vegans or carnivores? 18:03 The lack of glycine spurs faster aging. 24:10 Rend mode versus mend mode. 31:51 Autumn’s obsession with the many positive ways the brain interacts with nutrition. 39:00 The power of three. 45:43 Low plasma glycine: A very consistent biomarker of insulin resistance. 56:04 What’s more effective: Getting more glycine in a supplement or food? 59:45 Common questions about glycine. 1:05:35 Have you tried a bone broth fast? 1:10:26 Autumn shares the results of her work with Dr. Stephan Van Vliet on the Beef Nutrient Density Project. 1:13:33 The Omega-3 Index, the benefits of eating pasture-raised/grass-fed animals and the wisdom of your body. 1:21:51 Could mercury warnings for pregnant women be doing more harm than good? 1:25:53 Brain nutrition is so poor, could average IQs drop sharply over the next four decades? 1:36:04 Are you eating too much liver? 1:44:25 How you can be fooled by Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS) laws. 1:49:27 Does the citric acid in your food come from mold? 1:53:55 Lab-grown meats. 1:59:08 The spread of data centers and how it could affect our health. 2:06:20 Wild Pastures Burger Co. is growing! Resources The Glycine Miracle: The Science of Living Long and Free from Inflammation by Dr. Joel Brind Pyroptosis Autumn’s conversation with Dr. Joel Brind on her ReThink Health podcast The Shrinking Brain: Mental Health is affected by poor brain nutrition by Michael Crawford and David E. Marsh Methionine Cellular senescence The work of Stephanie Seneff, Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, Dr. Joseph Hibbeln and Dr. Bill Harris Autumn’s work on the Journal of Animal Science study, Nutritional composition of beef: a comparison of commercial North-American grass- and grain-finishing systems DHA Autumn’s conversation with Dr. Anthony Hulbert about achieving Omega balance on her ReThink Health podcast Oneness vs. the 1% by Vandana and Kartikey Shiva Paul’s podcast conversations with Dr. Ibrahim Karim, Dolf Zantinge and Dr. Robert Gilbert  How to Eat, Move and Be Healthy 20th Anniversary Edition The Great Plant-Based Con by Jayne Buxton The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe by Jeremy Lent Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

Your relationship with pain probably goes one of the two ways… Most people take the conventional route and try to obliterate it with drugs and extreme treatments they may not need (that can hurt them even more than the pain itself). In many cases, their relationship with pain defines who they are. Paul and senior CHEK instructor Leigh Brandon, author of Beyond the Pain: A Whole-Person Approach to Understanding Pain and Participating in Recovery, explore a very different and holistic relationship with pain, one that doesn’t treat it like an enemy but a vital source of information about your body this week on Spirit Gym. Learn more about Leigh and his work at his website. Find him on social media via Instagram, Twitter/X and TikTok. Check out Leigh’s podcast, Beyond the Pain, on YouTube, Apple Podcasts and wherever you listen to them. Read the first chapter of Beyond the Pain at this link. For Spirit Gym listeners: Download Leigh’s paper, The Load Capacity Hierarchy Model of Chronic Pain: A Systems Based Framework for Understanding Pain and Guiding Clinical Practice, today! Timestamps 4:54 Why Leigh felt compelled to write a book about pain. 6:46 More UK adults suffer from chronic pain than Americans, depending on the studies you read. 14:43 The double-whammy of taking a painkiller and medication for depression. 16:44 One of Leigh’s worst experiences with pain that took him 22 months to diagnose, treat and heal. 27:13 Do you have a pain identity? 31:39 Miasms (trapped emotions). 36:39 Why people treat pain as their enemy. 44:12 Treating fear as different emotions. 50:21 Proprioception. 1:03:30 Pain is far more diverse and complex than most people realize. 1:10:30 The four predominant causes of persistent pain that interact with each other, based on Leigh’s experience (structural, metabolic, nervous system regulation and emotional load). 1:15:08 People are so addicted to mobile phones, they use them in saunas! 1:22:40 Leigh narrows down his knee inflammation to eating porridge every morning for breakfast. 1:31:30 Viscerosomatic reflexes. 1:41:02 When we can make meaning and understand our pain, it raises our threshold and we are better able to live our lives. 1:54:23 Leigh’s six principles of recovery. 2:02:27 Pain exists as a vital path of communication and a safety valve that doesn’t always guarantee painful problems. Resources Anatomy of Sports Injuries for Fitness and Rehabilitation by Leigh Brandon Anatomy for Strength and Fitness Training For Speed by Leigh Brandon  Anatomy For Yoga For Posture and Health by Leigh Brandon Eliminating Adult Acne for Good by Leigh Brandon The Tennis Biomechanics Manual by Leigh Brandon and Paul Chek MRSA infections The CHEK Totem Pole Wall & Melzak’s Textbook of Pain by Stephen B. McMahon, Martin Koltzdenburg, Irene Tracey and Dennis Turk Novak Djokovic: The Wolf in Winter The work of Dr. John Sarno and Mariano Rocabado Paul’s podcast conversations with Danny Way, Dr. Ibrahim Karim, Doreya Karim and Angie Chek The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life by Robert Becker and Gary Selden How to Eat, Move and Be Healthy! 20th anniversary edition Nonviolent Communication: The Basics As I Know and Use Them by Wayland Myers Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

In his first conversation with Paul, Mark Wolynn shared his personal journey that led him to become a renowned authority on inherited trauma and write a best-selling book about it.  Mark returns to talk about his recently revised landmark book, It Didn’t Start With You, and a new workbook that accompanies it and to describe how our DNA and genes are affected by trauma across generations this week on Spirit Gym. Learn more about Mark and his Inherited Family Trauma Training Program and workshops along with booking a private session with him on his website. You’ll also find him on Facebook and Instagram. If you need help, contact Giovanna Taormina for a list of practitioners Mark has trained. Timestamps 9:13 Despite writing a book on generational trauma, Mark’s work with clients mainly focuses on attachment trauma. 11:02 “Throw away the old book!” 18:45 While some pay attention to attachment styles, Mark looks at breaks between people and how they function. 25:27 Describing generational trauma. 32:00 The first case that taught Mark how to look for inherited family trauma and changed his life 30 years ago. 40:57 Where does this deeply traumatic information reside? 49:12 How our DNA and genes are affected by trauma across generations. 52:49 Mark describes the trauma experience from a spiritual perspective. 1:03:50 Mark’s psychotic break at age 24 was the beginning of his healing and how he began helping others. 1:08:45 Mark regains his eyesight after healing his trauma inherited from his mother and grandparents. 1:12:36 Paul’s inherited trauma. 1:24:27 How many generations of inherited trauma could humans carry? 1:32:19 “Our inhumanity toward others is often a mirror of our own inhumanity toward ourselves.” 1:42:04 Mark’s core sentence tool in action. 1:49:37 Positive traits can be transferred and inherited among generations too. 1:56:31 Examples of verbal and non-verbal trauma language. 2:01:31 Mark’s The Official It Didn’t Start With You Workbook is designed to be used whether you read his book or not. 2:13:16 Every day, take a few moments to pause and take inventory of what you’re feeling and, especially, the divine nature within you. Resources It Didn’t Start With You by Mark Wolynn The Official It Didn’t Start With You Workbook by Mark Wolynn Trichotillomania The work of Bert Hellinger, Dr. Isabelle Mansuy and Dr. Rachel Yehuda Paul’s podcast conversation with Diane Poole Heller Morphic Resonance and Morphic Fields: An Introduction by Rupert Sheldrake Healing With Haiku: A Poetic Exploration of Self by Anne Helfer Brainstorm: The Power and Purpose of the Teenage Brain by Dr. Daniel Siegel The Biology of Transcendence by Joseph Chilton Pearce A Practical Guide to Vibrational Medicine: Energy Healing and Spiritual Transformation by Richard Gerber Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

So many people and companies sell miracle products and supplements that claim to detox your body from the harm of everyday living that it’s really hard to know the difference between fact and fiction. Certified Nutritionist, CHEK Faculty member and shamanic-trained coach and consultant, Angie Chek joins Paul to share their philosophies about safe detox protocols and explain why too much of a good thing can become a bad thing this week on Spirit Gym. Find Angie online at angiesworld.com, where you can also book a free 15-minute consultation to learn more about working with her in person or virtually to discuss detox strategies or any health issues. For Spirit Gym listeners: Check out the DesBio product line of supplements and detox products Angie talks about during the podcast at the DBscript website. To purchase products on the website, register at this link. Save 10 percent on any purchase you make on the website by using the promo code PAULCHEK10 at checkout. Timestamps 3:23 Toxic statistics. 11:39 The detoxification process in your body. 19:19 Liposuction. 21:44 Organs that detoxify your body. 28:21 The relationship between your organs and emotions. 38:39 Your environment (indoor and outdoor) can be toxic too. 46:28 Are chloramines in your drinking water? 52:09 What’s really in your supplements? 1:00:07 The toxic chemicals hiding in plastic containers. 1:05:54 Pollution your body feels from light, noise, Wi-Fi routers and 5G towers (EMFs). 1:15:21 “What you put in your mouth you have full control over…” 1:30:02 Angie’s annual Christmas gift for Penny and Paul. 1:42:09 Nature as the ultimate detox. 1:52:01 Are you detoxing too much? 2:00:02 Try a 30-day social media detox. 2:05:11 BioGeometry. Resources Body for Life How Emotions Are Made: The Secret Life of the Brain by Lisa Barrett The Environmental Working Group’s (EWG) consumer guides EWG’s full lists of the Clean 15 and Dirty Dozen foods King Corn (movie) Optimize: A Groundbreaking 7-Step Plan to Health and Longevity Through Quantum Biology by Dr. Catherine Clinton The work of L. Ron Hubbard The Safe Shoppers Bible by David Steinman and Samuel Epstein Gynecomastia Shungite Demeter Association Find A Spring Thimerosal Cellcore Metagenics Paul’s podcast conversations with Dr. Catherine Clinton, Doreya Karim, Jason Pickard, Sayer Ji, Wade Lightheart and Matt Gallant, Dr. Ibrahim Karim and Dr. Robert Gilbert Farmers of Forty Centuries: Organic Farming in China, Korea and Japan by F.H. King Switch: How to Change Things When Change is Hard by Chip and Dan Heath Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music  Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

Most people believe in Jesus as a savior who shared parables, performed miracles and died for our sins during his brief life. But is that really true? For the longest time, Paul had tried to connect with Jesus yet came up empty until recently when his soul led him to Jesus, the man not of the Bible. Paul and Sean O’Laoire examine the life of Jesus from very different and complementary perspectives that may encourage you to reconsider what you think about myth and the Bible this week on Spirit Gym. Learn more about Sean at his Spirits in Spacesuits website. Find him on social media via Facebook, Instagram and YouTube. Timestamps 11:05 Epistemology, ontology and cosmology. 15:28 Was Jesus a product of Jesus mythicism (Christ myth theory)? 19:38 What modern historians DO agree on about the life of Jesus. 31:08 The difference between wisdom and knowledge. 34:56 Mythish: Sacred wisdom shared in story form. 40:20 The use of metaphor. 52:09 “When power becomes available, morality goes out the window.” 1:05:30 Prosopon. 1:17:27 A cohort of souls. 1:27:11 Sean is one of few people Paul thinks about the most, especially when he gets very irritated at Christianity. 1:38:13 Paul spent many years tracking Jesus and only experienced emptiness, until he recently connected with Jesus, the man not of the Bible. 1:42:54 What really happened to Jesus after the crucifixion. 1:45:35 What is evil? 1:46:34 Did Jesus practice a religion? 1:49:45 How Paul brought alchemy into his teachings. 1:54:16 Awe. 2:01:47 Why one minister taught kids at his church to fear God. 2:11:13 “We volunteer to be here right now.” Resources Setting God Free: Moving Beyond the Caricature We've Created in Our Own Image by Sean O’Laoire Noosphere Teleology Dr. Walter Russell’s Home Study Course Third Edition (FREE PDF link) The work of Bart Ehrman, Paramahansa Yogananda, Thomas Aquinas, Stanislav Grof and Elie Wiesel Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility by James Carse The Religious Case Against Belief by James Carse Streams of Wisdom by Dustin DiPerna and Ken Wilbur The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe by Jeremy Lent Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

When people ask for your opinions about UFOs, are the little green men from The X-Files the first things that pop in your head? Michael Jawer, author of the upcoming book What UFOs Really Are, believes we should be less focused on aliens flying in the sky and directing our attention on our inner selves and downward to living things anchored on the ground like plants, trees and fungi.  Join Paul and Michael on a wide-ranging conversation that could make you look at reality in a brand-new way this week on Spirit Gym. Learn more about Michael’s work on his website and Linkedin. Timestamps 2:20 Michael’s next book, What UFOs Really Are, coming out in December. 3:39 “My myth begins with emotion.” 13:51 Abnormalities like UFOs/UAPs (unidentified anomalous phenomena) are where enigmas often meet stigmas. 17:17 UAPs are forms of sentience, but not here to take over our planet. 26:59 Is lucid dreaming connected to remote viewing? 39:06 “The dimension that I'm most interested in is what's under the surface, or what we don’t see within our own unconsciousness.” 45:45 Is the unconscious poorly understood, incorrectly named or both? 58:00 Does an electron or atom feel like anything? 1:08:37 Michael is directing his attention inward and downward, rather than toward the skies. 1:13:50 C.H. Waddington’s concept of creodes. 1:21:27 UFOs and UAPs shake up our perceptions and invite us to consider viewing reality in different ways. 1:28:16 Paul’s question, What is on the sun?, is answered. 1:36:16 The ancient origins of AI. 1:46:06 “Humanity is in peril because we have archaic emotions, medieval institutions and god-like technology.” 1:48:56 John Lennon’s UFO sighting. Resources Michael’s recent appearance on New Thinking Allowed with Jeffrey Mishlove on YouTube The Spiritual Anatomy of Emotion: How Feelings Link the Brain, the Body and the Sixth Sense by Michael Jawer and Dr. Marc Micozzi Your Emotional Type: Key to the Therapies That Will Work For You by Michael Jawer and Dr. Marc Micozzi Sensitive Soul: The Unseen Role of Emotion in Extraordinary States by Michael Jawer Planta Sapiens: The New Science of Plant Intelligence by Paco Calvo and Natalie Lawrence Awe: The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How It Can Transform Your Life by Dacher Keltner The 2017 New York Times article about the Pentagon’s UFO program A British military defense unit report on acquiring UFO tech from the Jerusalem Post The Hidden Life of Trees and The Inner Life of Animals by Peter Wohlleben The Future of Life by Edward O. Wilson Disclosure Day (movie) Arrival (movie) The Soul of an Octopus by Sy Montgomery After by Dr. Bruce Greyson Rupert Sheldrake’s paper, Is the Sun Conscious? Rupert Sheldrake’s banned TED talk on YouTube The Trickster and the Paranormal by George Hansen The Mystic Spiral: Journey of the Soul by Jill Purce Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies by Carl Jung Compendium of the Emerald Tablets by Billy Carson The work of Ingo Swann, Barbara Hand Clow, Dr. Michael Levin, Steven Greer, Peter Godfrey-Smith, Jenny Randles and Jacques Vallée Your Body is Your Subconscious Mind by Candace Pert The Secret Life of Plants by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird The Secret Life of Nature: Living in Harmony With The Hidden World of Nature Spirits From Fairies to Quarks by Peter Tompkins The Unknown Spirit by Jean-Emile Charon Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

Do you remember hearing from your Higher Power for the very first time? John Novello heard a voice from Source — what he calls the Invisible Architect — telling him, “Point to the keyboard,” at the ripe, old age of three. That cosmic whisper led John to a long and successful career as a composer and acclaimed jazz pianist. Another conversation later in life led John to write his best-selling book, The Invisible Architect: How to Design a Perfect Life from Within, as a way to help others tap into the wisdom and knowledge that sits inside them waiting to be tapped. John goes deep into the Invisible Architect and shares his Be, Do, Have philosophies of life this week on Spirit Gym. Learn more about John’s work as a bestselling author at this link and his first career as an acclaimed jazz pianist and composer at this link. Check out his 1-1 mentoring program at this link. Find him on social media via Facebook and Linkedin. Timestamps 3:35 John’s upcoming book series, The Invisible Architect Guide For Young Souls, for kids. 9:44 John’s first experience with the Invisible Architect at age three. 14:23 A conversation with the Architect that led to John writing The Invisible Architect as a way to pay it forward. 19:28 What is the Invisible Architect? 28:53 The importance of reciprocity. 34:34 Are you really aware there’s an inner voice inside you waiting to be heard? 49:14 Few people know how to listen to the Invisible Architect. 52:48 Why John believes humans have no souls. 58:39 Remember the future. 1:01:03 Applying John’s Be, Do, Have philosophies and the Law of Thought Substitution. 1:13:46 Who goes to the afterlife? 1:20:59 A prayer John says to invite the Architect and express perfection through him. 1:32:53 The ultimate way to manifest anything, according to Thomas Troward. 1:42:41 Most people operate on the Have, Do, Be system and can’t convert a goal into a fact. 1:52:52 The seven milestones of John’s Be, Do, Have process. 2:00:31 Refining your Be is critical. 2:16:51 Instead of the law of attraction, John reframes it as three things: The law of reflection, law of cause and effect or law of resonance. 2:21:00 “The journey is not one of becoming, but one of remembering.” Resources Invisible architecture Tao of Jeet Kune Do by Bruce Lee Conversations with God: an uncommon dialogue book 1 by Neale Donald Walsch The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield The work of Bob Carver, Lawrence Welk, Myron Floren, Walter Russell, Dan Inosanto, Zig Ziglar, Eckard Tolle, David Bohm, Delores Cannon, Wei Wu Wei, Neville Goddard, Sri Aurobindo Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility and The Religious Case Against Belief by James Carse Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

The difference between being healthy or not healthy mostly comes down to the simple things within your control like eating nutrient-rich foods, incorporating movement into your daily routine and following a stable sleep schedule. Like Paul, BIOptimizers co-founders, Matt Gallant and Wade Lightheart, constantly test, test and test their bodies, beliefs and products to ensure those simple things are always protecting and enhancing better health. Building on that theme of experimenting, Matt talks about the 80,000+ experiments he’s done on BIOptimizers products over the years and Wade shares his bucket theory of nutrition that will make your health more bulletproof this week on Spirit Gym. Besides the many great BIOptimizers products Wade and Matt have developed, you’ll want to check out the BIOptimizers Nutrition Coach Program. Look for Matt and Wade on social media via Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. Listen to the BIOptimizers Awesome Health Podcast hosted by Wade on Apple Podcasts. Timestamps 2:19 Is maltodextrin in your electrolyte drink? 6:08 BiOptimizers’ bio-lab recently topped the 80,000 mark in experiments. 10:17 Wade’s concussion theory. 24.28 “Matt loves running experiments on everything.” 32:42 Do you have a zinc deficiency? 38:32 Can you really feel the truth? 51:30 How to make your health more bulletproof. 1:00:37 Wade’s bucket theory of nutrition. 1:08:55 Feeling the sensation of a weightlifter’s/athlete’s heart. 1:16:38 Understanding cofactors. 1:22:53 “One of the hardest things [for humans] to absorb is fat soluble molecules.” 1:33:21 Protecting your microbiome. 1:45:44 Wade’s small confession. 1:53:30 The power of the placebo and the biology of belief. 2:02:00 The benefits of experiential reality. 2:17:06 Substitute the word belief for hypothesis and your life will change. 2:23:00 “Children are the ultimate health hack.” Resources The Ultimate Nutrition Bible by Matt Gallant and Wade Lightheart Orthomolecular Psychiatry: Treatment Of Schizophrenia by Dr. David Hawkins and Dr. Linus Pauling Bioaccessibility, bioavailability and metabolism of functional foods, Handbook of Functional Foods Paul’s podcast conversation with Jason Christoff Hildegard von Bingen’s Physica by Saint Hildegard of Bingen and Priscilla Throop The Fat of the Land by Vilhjalmur Stefansson Your Body’s Many Cries for Water by Fereydoon Batmanghelidj The Body Electric: Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life by Robert Becker and Gary Selden Tuning in to Nature by Philip Callahan Biochemical Individuality by Roger Williams Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

Toward the end of her first Spirit Gym conversation with Paul, Dr. Joanna Kujawa described how Baba Yaga insisted on being included in her recent book, Alien Goddess: UFOs, AI and the Goddesses of Ascension.  Joanna and Paul continue their conversation about Baba Yaga and her connection to Mother Earth as the soul and guardian of our planet who has had quite enough of our human shenanigans and isn’t putting up with it any longer this week on Spirit Gym. Learn more about Joanna’s work on her website and Substack. Find her on social media via Facebook, Instagram and YouTube. Timestamps 7:01 Could Baba Yaga be Mother Earth, the spirit of our planet? 10:50 “The issue is authenticity.” 19:22 Joanna felt a sense of urgency while writing her book, Alien Goddess. 28:57 Becoming the change you want to see in the world by making small choices. 36:53 The four levels of consciousness. 44:55 Ignorance versus wisdom. 48:51 “Mystics see in the light what scientists try to measure but seldom get.” 1:02:02 The Ahrimanic deception. 1:12:55 The looming conflict ahead: Consciousness, how we define it and what we can do to prevent its suppression. 1:29:30 Are we too focused on the untruths? 1:35:50 Will this delusion of merging body and machine eventually end well? 1:43:52 A necessary sacrifice. 1:58:04 Ascending and descending waves of consciousness. 2:03:04 Why Baba Yaga is angry with us. 2:16:31 “We know what they are.” 2:30:24 Be a spiritual warrior in the face of oppression and suppression from AI and too much tech. 2:45:05 Communicating in liminal and imaginal space. 2:55:50 “As we evolve, God evolves.” 3:00:33 “The best thing you can do for God is to work on yourself.”  Resources   The Other Goddess by Dr. Joanna Kujawa Mythologium 2026: Mythic Imagination rewatch Rupert Sheldrake discusses The Science Delusion on YouTube I, Robot (movie) Mercy (movie) The myth of Prometheus The story of Enlil and Enki The myth of Demeter and Persephone Involution and evolution, according to Rudolf Steiner Pistis Sophia Farmers of Forty Centuries: Organic Farming in China, Korea and Japan by F.H. King The work of Marie-Louise von Franz, Victor Frankl, David Bohm, Dr. Fred Allen Wolf, Dr. William Tiller, Sam Altman, Gregg Braden, Billy Carson, Rabia al Basri and Edward O. Wilson Paul’s podcast conversations with Amit Goswami, Sean O’Laoire, Dr. Marc Gafni, Dr. Jared Horvath and Elizabeth Nelson Paul’s podcast on Lucifer, Christ and Ahriman Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

Living the life of your dreams is very hard work. Paul believes much of that hard work comes from being open (and brave) to listen to new and different ideas — things you may never have considered before — then testing them in your own laboratory of daily living to see if they’re true and they work for you. Having the courage to explore and refine your life by doing the hard work of letting go of the stuff that isn’t working for you and choosing to allow the new in is a recurring theme in this week’s Spirit Gym conversation with Erick Godsey, a Master Coach and teacher of myth, science and philosophy.  Remember, the best teachers you’ll ever have are the ones who are always challenging you to be your best you, not a clone or cult member! Curious to read more after Paul’s conversation with Erick? Check out part 1 and part 2 of his Renaissance Fitness essays on Substack where you can subscribe to his feed for free. Find out more about Erick and his work on his website and Skool.com/The Dharma Artist Collective. Look for him on social media via Instagram, Facebook and YouTube. Listen to his Myths That Makes Us podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to them. Timestamps 3:12 The spiritual community is splitting into different camps about how to handle technology. 7:58 Erick was slow to change his mind about God, reincarnation and remote viewing. 15:17 Paul’s remote viewing skills are put to the test. 25:25 “To remote view, you have to get rid of any idea that could alter your conviction that it's even possible.” 34:35 What does unconditional love mean? 44:03 Myths and archetypes. 51:05 Is there a fundamental grammar for archetypes that’s represented in the Tarot? 59:18 A metaphysical kind of artificial intelligence that’s been around for billions of years. 1:06:42 The illusions we create to make our stories work when they really don’t. 1:13:43 Paul’s dream: Do the work to figure things out for yourself and test what you learn, even from him. 1:19:46 Like Paul, Erick has been accused of being a cult leader and he lists it on his resume as a source of pride. 1:23:46 One thought leader believes it could take about 735 lifetimes to reach a state of enlightenment. 1:31:42 “I see a lot of sleeping teachers and potential leaders.” 1:40:30 The deep importance of your dream life. 1:47:10 Paul explains how to speak to and hear your soul. 2:01:48 Paul helps Erick work with his soul. 2:10:44 Heart breathing, soul connection and praying. Resources Life Before Life: Children’s Memories of Past Lives by Dr. Jim B. Tucker Phenomena: The Secret of the U.S. Government’s Investigations into Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis by Annie Jacobsen The work of Dr. Stanislav Grof, Paramahansa Yogananda, Ibn Arabi, Itzhak Bentov, Arthur M. Young, Huston Smith, Jean Gebser, Eckhart Tolle and Laozi Fingers Pointing Toward the Moon by Wei Wu Wei Paul’s podcast conversation with James Carse When God Was a Woman by Merlin Stone Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music  Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

The ability to channel isn’t a superpower, although many would argue that recognizing and embracing that gift, living it fully and sharing it with others may be one… Barbara With wanted to be a rock star and spent nearly two decades pursuing it until one day she spontaneously began to write for no reason. And, when she wrote the question, “Who are you?” the answer was Sound. Barbara shares her experiences as a psychic and channel, connecting with Albert Einstein and The Party from the Afterlife to provide a better understanding of the operating system of life based on working with three dimensions — emotion, intuition and intellect — that help us align as humans with compassion this week on Spirit Gym. Learn more about Barbara and her work at her website, Synergy Alliance and The Music of Barbara With. Look for her on social media via Facebook, YouTube and Instagram. For Spirit Gym listeners: Save 40 percent on a 1-hour reading with Barbara, Albert Einstein and the Party by going to this link and using the promo code EINSTEIN. (Special offers from Spirit Gym guests are time-sensitive and at their discretion to top redeem after 30 days.) Timestamps 4:02 Barbara’s first experience with channeling in high school showed her how to love herself better. 10:29 A lot of cool things happen in the afterlife. 22:10 Three human dimensions: Emotion, intuition and intellect. 27:32 What Compassion does. 31:19 “God is the name of the blanket that wraps the mystery.” 37:48 “Is everyone a reflection of you, including whomever you are channeling?” 45:44 Healing old wounds. 1:02:55 The hardest thing for most people to do: Stop and take care of themselves. 1:09:49 “Synergy: One plus one equals three.” 1:16:09 Separate your fears and handle them differently, not as one whole thing. 1:26:25 You can’t cheat or fake empathy and compassion. 1:38:55 Know that emotions like anger and sadness can fuel thoughts of joy, happiness and peace too. 1:47:38 The Psychic Sorority. 1:54:10 The first baby steps toward self-love and its reciprocal responses. 2:05:05 Conflict REVOLUTION. 2:08:38 “No one is going to save me.” 2:15:35 “We work for the good of the whole.” Resources Diaries of a Psychic Sorority: Talking With the Angels by Kimberly Lilith Phelps, Barbara With and Teresa McMillian Conflict REVOLUTION: The Workbook by Barbara With Sound: Native Teachings and Visionary Art by Joseph Rael The Ojibwe/Anishinaabe/Chippewa Indigenous tribe Barbara’s appearance on the Metaphysical Hippie Chicks 2.0 podcast The Serenity Prayer The work of Jean Houston Paul’s podcast conversations with James Carse and Anne Helfer The Body Keeps The Score: Brain, Mind and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk Voices of the First Day by Robert Lawlor Healing With Haiku: A Poetic Exploration of Self by Anne Helfer Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.

Do you ever wonder why it’s so hard to make to make simple changes that could help you live a healthier, stress-free life? Perhaps, it’s powers behind the scenes motivating you to drink that extra cup of coffee that becomes many more or skip your afternoon workout in the gym that becomes a lasting habit.  CHEK Professional Jason Christoff returns to share what he’s learned about mind control in his new documentary, Planet Mind Control, this week on Spirit Gym. Check out Jason’s articles, programs and podcast appearances on his website. Find him on social media via Facebook, Twitter/X, Instagram, YouTube and Soundcloud. Watch Jason’s documentary, Planet Mind Control, for FREE. Receive guidance on breaking the self-sabotage loop by emailing Jason directly at [email protected]. Timestamps 4:21 Why Jason made his documentary about mind control. 14:25 If magicians can fool people with mind hacks, how good are trained professionals who specialize in mass mind control? 22:08 The mindset of the least hackable people. 27:15 “You have to trick citizens to destroy the U.S. from the inside.” 45:05 Donald Trump: A strong mind control operation all by himself. 54:28 The COVID times, fight or flight and mind control. 1:06:47 Resetting your consciousness from negative content with repetitive positive things. 1:11:08 Mind control and self-sabotage work in concert to keep you stuck. 1:14:56 Direct versus indirect mind control. 1:20:45 Mind control and kids. 1:29:57 Living a lifetime as a professional teenager. 1:35:26 Why is it so easy for people to trick themselves? 1:46:04 Ever question why you drink alcohol or coffee? 2:00:39 What’s next for Jason. Resources Jason’s presentation during a U.S. Senate roundtable on YouTube The Art of War by Sun Tzu I Am Legend (movie) Contagion (movie) 28 Days Later (movie) Outbreak (movie) The work of Justin Willman, Max Major, Denis Rancourt, Sir Robert McCarrison, Michael Tsarion and Rupert Sheldrake Dr. Lawrence Dunegan’s transcript covering the New Order of the Barbarians meeting with Dr. Richard Day in 1969 The Medes Paul’s solocast on Shadow Work Farmers of Forty Centuries: Organic Farming in China, Korea and Japan by F.H. King DNA: Pirates of the Sacred Spiral by Leonard Horowitz Trance: The Cathy O’Brien Story Eugenics Paul’s podcast conversation with Dr. Keith Witt Boys Adrift by Leonard Sax Find more resources for this episode on our website. Music Credit: Meet Your Heroes (444Hz), Composed, mixed, mastered and produced by Michael RB Schwartz of Brave Bear Music Thanks to our awesome sponsors: Paleovalley BIOptimizers US and BIOptimizers UK PAUL15 Organifi CHEK20 CHEK Institute Spirit Gym We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.