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Christianity Provides The Only Justification For Knowledge - Ep.367 - The Great Debate - A Synopsis - Part 2
2026/04/20
https://youtu.be/VXRRVnHb7ZA
Christianity Provides The Only Justification For Knowledge
Tony’s going to be out for a bit, so the next four episodes will be on the shorter end, but that’s ok.
Here, the editor of the book, Joshua Pillows, structures the debate on what might have been the case if Stein had been prepared to deal with Bahnsen’s actual argument. So this is how it should have happened, and we start with Bahnsen’s opening statement.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
04:03 – The Embarrassing Dr. Stein
05:34 – Bahnsen’s Opening Statement Redux
07:13 – A Battle Of Worldviews
09:22 – The Issue With The Naturalistic Atheist Worldview
11:47 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
How It Should Have Happened - Ep.366 - The Great Debate - A Synopsis - Part 1
2026/04/13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCgZKgw9TtU
Evil, Miracles, & Atheist Faith
Tony’s going to be out for a bit, so the next four episodes will be on the shorter end, but that’s ok.
Here, the editor of the book, Joshua Pillows, structures the debate on what might have been the case if Stein had been prepared to deal with Bahnsen’s actual argument. So this is how it should have happened, and we start with Bahnsen’s opening statement.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
04:03 – The Embarrassing Dr. Stein
05:34 – Bahnsen’s Opening Statement Redux
07:13 – A Battle Of Worldviews
09:22 – The Issue With The Naturalistic Atheist Worldview
11:47 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
Evil, Miracles, & Atheist Faith - Ep.365 - The Great Debate - Q&A - Part 2
2026/04/06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B570UPGXmhg
Evil, Miracles, & Atheist Faith
We finish off with the debate with the final four questions including evil, agnosticism, the nature of logic, belief, and show that an atheist faith is present and the atheist in this debate stumbles over himself and accidentally admits it – twice.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
01:27 – Question 3 – Why Is There Evil? Rebellion
05:27 – Dr. Stein Rebuttal – God Needs To Force Us Not To Rebel To Be Good & Real
07:34 – Question 4 – Why Not Agnosticism?
08:54 – Ut Oh! Stein Contradicts Stein!
11:18 – Dr. Bahnsen’s Rebuttal – Stein Admits Atheists Have Blind Faith
16:31 – Question 5 – Why Is Do Laws Of Logic Need To Be Grounded In God? Because They Can’t Ground Themselves
23:19 – Dr. Stein’s Rebuttal – None, But Admits He Has Faith
24:51 – Question 6 – What Evidence Would An Atheist Need To Believe In God? Magic!
27:31 – Dr. Bahnsen’s Rebuttal – People Haven’t Believed When Shown Miracles
34:10 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
The Christian God & The Guy From Germany With A Funny Mustache - Ep.364 - The Great Debate - Q&A - Part 1
2026/03/30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvdYRjGqNS4
The Christian God & The Guy From Germany With A Funny Mustache
As we come down to the book’s debate proper section we are left with six questions from the audience. Here we cover two which involve asking why is the Christian God the answer out of all the other gods out there. Then we get to ask the question that takes all philosophers about 6 minutes to get to – how do we deal with ideas when it comes to that guy from Germany with a funny mustache. A really interesting response from both sides here.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
02:42 – Question 1 – Why The Christian God Out Of All The Other gods?
04:16 – An Important Question But Not Part Of The Debate Specifically
07:20 – A Consistent Worldview Different Than Something Like Hinduism
13:02 – Dr. Stein’s Response – Buddhism Is The Only Rational Religion
14:09 – Question 2 – Why That German With A Mustache Wrong?
15:01 – Western Tradition Says So!
21:17 – Dr. Bahnsen’s Response – Begging The Question
24:45 – Further Commentary
27:06 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
Christians Have The High Ground - Ep.363 - The Great Debate - Dr. Bahnsen's Closing Statement
2026/03/23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No0WAKSNxpA
Christians Have The High Ground
We all know what happens to those who have the high ground. Dr. Bahnsen ends his closing remarks with the key points being that atheist Gordon Stein doesn’t have a leg to stand on. In fact, he’s stealing the Christian’s leg to be able to claim all his worldview points on. So ends the Great Debate – but wait, there’s more!
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
01:35 – The Christian Does What The Atheist Didn’t Do
01:59 – Bahnsen Shows That Stein Couldn’t Back Up His Worldview To Critique
05:07 – The Untouched Transcendental Christian Argument
07:07 – The Unaccountable Naturalistic Worldview Of The Atheist
10:43 – Atheists Can Still Do Good By The Grace Of God
12:04 – The Problem With Convention
13:13 – Matter Matters Because It’s Matter
14:53 – Greatest Happiness Is What Matters With Morality For Atheists
17:21 – Bahnsen Is Not Impressed & The Audience & Atheists Shouldn’t Be Either
19:55 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
An Atheist Caught Stealing - Ep.362 - The Great Debate - Dr. Stein's Closing Statement
2026/03/16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN56A9ON7to
An Atheist Caught Stealing
Dr. Stein finished the debate in his closing in what appears to be on his back heel. Bahnsen has levied that an atheist caught stealing from the Christian worldview allows for the use of science and morality that an atheist doesn’t have justification for. Stein uses his last words to try to say that an atheist universe allows for the most moral system and a place where men can do science easily.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
02:01 – An Atheist Talks About What’s Possible In An Atheist Universe
02:56 – Evil In An Atheist Universe By
11:48 – The Regularity Of Science In An Atheist Universe
22:15 – Stealing From Worldviews To Be Moral & Do Science
24:46 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
At Some Point We Have To Talk About TAG - Ep.361 - The Great Debate - Bahnsen's 2nd Rebuttal - Part 2
2026/03/09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t67_qR3ewTU
At Some Point We Have To Talk About TAG
Bahnsen uses the final part of his second rebuttal by letting Stein and the audience know that at some point we have to talk about TAG. The argument that Bahnsen is known for surprised and shocked the atheist who hand waves it away without dealing with any of the points. Maybe Stein can make his final case next week in his closing argument.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – Bahnsen’s A Stickler For The Transcendental Argument
02:48 – A Reminder Of TAG
06:14 – The Atheist Tries To Turn The Tables On Christian Logic
11:24 – The Atheist Can’t Have Standards That Don’t Change
13:48 – The Christian Worldview Has More Consistent Consistents
18:23 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
Blind Faith Of Atheist Materialism - Ep.360 - The Great Debate - Bahnsen's 2nd Rebuttal - Part 1
2026/03/02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w77WLEEF0Sk
Blind Faith Of Atheist Materialism
We’re breaking up Bahnsen’s 2nd rebuttal into two sections as we did with Stein, as there are two major sections both have covered. In this first half, Bahnsen makes the case of the use of blind faith of atheist materialism, in which the worldview has no ability to justify the use of logic or of science, as the issues that have been covered in the debate – that of the problem of induction and the non-material nature of logic leads to a denial that they even exist.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
01:26 – Bahnsen Hasn’t Heard Any Justification For An Atheist To The Laws Of Logic
03:35 – The Issue Of Induction To Science Has Gone Unanswered
05:23 – The Future Is Only Probability For Atheists
07:35 – The Atheist’s Blind Faith In Logic & Science
10:55 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
How Does God Think? - Ep.359 - The Great Debate - Stein's 2nd Rebuttal - Part 2
2026/02/23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jne1-SW-z9M
How Does God Think?
Stein didn’t know what the laws of logic were, knows philosophers don’t agree what they are – but now he’s going to point the finger back at Christians and say they don’t know either. He wants to know how does God think and how do Christians even know that. We Christians have a textbook and meetings every week.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – How Does One Know What God Thinks?
04:09 – If You Want A Why Did God Create – Here It Is; But So What?
05:58 – Stein Equivocates On His Terms
10:13 – Stein Doesn’t Think Bahnsen Could Give Laws Of Logic Meaning
12:54 – The Rock Question
15:09 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
Atheist Admits He's Trapped! - Ep.358 - The Great Debate - Stein's 2nd Rebuttal - Part 1
2026/02/16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH_RnYfXx9g
Atheist Admits He’s Trapped!
Stein has been stymied and this atheist admits he’s trapped when it comes to his inability to justify his use of the laws of logic within the confines of his atheistic materialism worldview. Next week, we’ll look at his attempt to heap that same outcome on Bahnsen and Christianity.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
01:37 – Atheist Can’t Understand Why Christian Wants To Talk About Logic
05:50 – Here’s The Deal
09:05 – The Issue With Falsification – For Atheists
15:30 – The Atheist Doesn’t Want An Explanation For Logic – They Just Want To Be Mad
17:00 – Atheist Admits He’s Trapped By Not Being Able To Explain Logic
18:02 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
Atheist Admits Atheism Can't Justify Science - Ep.357 - The Great Debate - Bahnsen's 2nd Cross-Examination
2026/02/09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnKz4WrQfUw
Atheist Admits Atheism Can’t Justify Science
A slightly shorter episode due to sickness by the editor but nonetheless still an important part of the Great Debate.
Here, Stein, the atheist admits atheism can’t justify science especially when it comes to induction. This issue that David Hume identified the problem with not having justification that the future will be like the past was identified all the way back during the Enlightenment and those enlightened ones who wanted to shake off God also shook off the justification of the use of science.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
01:19 – How To Deal With Hume’s Issue With Induction
03:40 – Atheists Want To Have Brute Facts Just Because
04:39 – Atheist Admits Atheism Can’t Justify Science
06:29 – Evolution Should Have Us Except Science To Change
09:24 – What Right Do We Have To Assume The Future Will Be Like The Past?
10:53 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
What's The Atheist's Metaphysical Basis For Anything? - Ep.356 - The Great Debate - Stein's 2nd Cross-Examination
2026/02/02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DANORxTwme4
What’s The Atheist’s Metaphysical Basis For Anything?
While this is supposed to be Stein’s 2nd cross-examination of Bahnsen, we see Bahnsen causes the atheist to stumble by trying to get him to provide the atheist’s metaphysical basis for anything – here specifically for math and the laws of logic. The Christian has a basis, one that the atheist doesn’t like, but that’s better than nothing or a lack of the ability to provide anything.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
02:09 – Is Math Theistic Or Atheistic
04:30 – Math Is Christian Because It Couldn’t Be Anything Else
06:12 – Delving Further Into This
08:11 – Is No Other Explanation Needed?
09:27 – The Christian’s External Answer That Is Required
11:29 – Unreasonable Demand On The Atheist?
12:31 – How Does An Atheist Justify Non-Material Laws?
14:10 – How Does A Christian Know Logic Reflects The Mind Of God?
19:06 – Atheist Doesn’t Buy, Or Understand
20:34 – Atheists Don’t Desire Metaphysical Proof Of Other Concepts They Agree With
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
Atheist Logic By Experiment Or Agreement? - Ep.355 - The Great Debate - Bahnsen's 2nd Opening - Part 2
2026/01/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgF41a4tYXI
Atheist Logic By Experiment Or Agreement?
Finishing up Bahnsen’s attempt to help out his atheist opponent provide justification for his use of logic, we look at logic being shown through experimentation or agreement. And like the good Christian Bahnsen is, he provides a good overview and then sinks the foundation of the atheist to claim any grounding for logic.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
01:47 – Atheist Logic From A Posteriori?
04:07 – Are Laws Of Logic Contingent Under Atheism?
06:29 – Why Do Laws Of Logic Work In Different Areas The Same
07:50 – Atheist Logic Just Linguistic Convention?
09:27 – If So Then They’re Culturally Relative
11:59 – Why Do Atheists Decry Moral Failure Of Christians
13:13 – What Type Does One Give To Back Up Atheistic Materialistic Logic
15:04 – Atheists Steal From Christians To Use Logic
15:45 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
The Failure Of Atheistic Logic - Ep.354 - The Great Debate - Bahnsen's 2nd Opening - Part 1
2026/01/19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeaWCLz68MY
The Failure Of Atheistic Logic
Where Stein has claimed that the laws of logic are only agreed upon but useful, Bahnsen is having a hard time accepting that – because it’s wrong. It’s up to Bahnsen to try and make the case for the atheist metaphysical use of the laws of logic. But it’s also up to Bahnsen to shoot those down too and show the failure of atheistic logic.
TIMELINE:
00:00 – Introduction
01:57 – A Battle Of Worldviews
05:46 – The Atheist Doesn’t Have Reason To Use Reason
07:10 – The Christian’s Reason For Reason
08:08 – The Laws Of Logic Need A Mind
08:28 – Helpful Remind Of The Laws Of Logic
10:06 – Justifying Truth Of Logic Without Needing To Test It
11:42 – Not Proven Because They’re Used
13:40 – Logic Is More Conceptual Than Empirical
14:31 – Why Logic Can Always Be Used Consistently If They’re Only Agreed Upon
17:12 – If Logic Relies On People Only Why Don’t We Have Different Scholarships
18:49 – To The Library!
21:06 – Conclusion
BOOK LINKS:
The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows
Debate Transcript Video
The Bahnsen Institute
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
More Greek, More Sci-Fi - Ep.352 - 2025 Book Reviews - Part 2
2026/01/12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PXZTty4XY
A Little Greek, A Little Sci-Fi
The final half of the list of 2025 book reviews has more Greek, more sci-fi, and more indiepub goodness. Romance in space and space opera, talking pigs and talking frogs, first contact with aliens and first contact with demons, and good church history hymns and bad biblical archeology.
TIMELINE:
00:00:00 – Introduction
00:00:25 – Medea by Euripides
00:01:56 – The Trojan Women by Euripides
00:03:13 – Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White
00:06:40 – The Breadth of Creation by C.S. Johnson
00:08:40 – Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
00:12:34 – Prince Caspian by C.S. Lewis
00:14:16 – The Clouds by Aristophanes
00:16:23 – The Frogs by Aristophanes
00:17:48 – Shoot the Devil – Ten Tales of Humans Defeating the Demonic edited by Eric Postma
00:22:48 – Lifebinder by Blake Carpenter
00:26:48 – Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
00:29:39 – Theogony – Works and Days by Hesiod
00:31:22 – Blind Devotion – A Tale of the Van Meter Visitor by Ty Drago
00:33:39 – The Last Summer – A Tale of the Glawackus by Jacob Jones-Goldstein
00:35:34 – 3 Black Nights – An Urban Fantasy Horror Triple Feature! By T.J. Marquis
00:39:51 – The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein
00:44:21 – Record of The Paladins – Book of Ivon and Ivoire by BP McCoppin
00:47:48 – After Moses Prodigal by Michael F. Kane
00:52:14 – The Shepherd Descends by J.A. Raithe
00:55:50 – Atlas of World War II – History’s Greatest Conflict Revealed Through Rare Wartime Maps and New Cartography Stephen G. Hyslop
00:58:26 – Stones Still Speak – How Biblical Archaeology Illuminates the Stories You Thought You Knew Amanda Hope Haley
01:02:59 – The One Year Book of Hymns – 365 Devotions Based on Popular Hymns Robert K. Brown , Mark Norton
01:04:35 – The Door in the Wall by Marguerite de Angeli
01:07:32 – DIEROCK 88 by S.A. Oliver
01:11:05 – Before The Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi
01:14:45 – Conclusion
Books mentioned in this episode:
Medea by Euripides
Kindle
Paperback
The Trojan Women by Euripides
Kindle
Paperback
Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
The Breadth of Creation by C.S. Johnson
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
Prince Caspian by C.S. Lewis
Paperback
The Clouds by Aristophanes
Kindle
Paperback
The Frogs by Aristophanes
Paperback
Shoot the Devil – Ten Tales of Humans Defeating the Demonic edited by Eric Postma
Kindle
Paperback
Lifebinder by Blake Carpenter
Kindle
Paperback
Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
Theogony – Works and Days by Hesiod
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
Blind Devotion – A Tale of the Van Meter Visitor by Ty Drago
Kindle
Paperback
The Last Summer – A Tale of the Glawackus by Jacob Jones-Goldstein
Kindle
Paperback
3 Black Nights – An Urban Fantasy Horror Triple Feature! By T.J. Marquis
Kindle
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
Record of The Paladins – Book of Ivon and Ivoire by BP McCoppin
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
After Moses Prodigal by Michael F. Kane
Kindle
Paperback
The Shepherd Descends by J.A. Raithe
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
Atlas of World War II – History’s Greatest Conflict Revealed Through Rare Wartime Maps and New Cartography Stephen G. Hyslop
Hardcover
Stones Still Speak – How Biblical Archaeology Illuminates the Stories You Thought You Knew Amanda Hope Haley
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
The One Year Book of Hymns – 365 Devotions Based on Popular Hymns Robert K. Brown , Mark Norton
Paperback
The Door in the Wall by Marguerite de Angeli
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
DIEROCK 88 by S.A. Oliver
Kindle
Paperback
Audible
Before The Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi
Kindle
Paperback
All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com
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