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How do you turn setbacks into business growth when a difficult season has shaken your confidence or left you unsure what to do next? In this episode of Walk In Victory, Craig Wahl explains how entrepreneurial resilience, customer clarity, and a willingness to test your offer can help you move from hard-earned experience to useful action. NaRon Tillman sits down with Craig to explore the lessons behind his recovery from a serious car accident at age 20 and his decades working in technology businesses. Craig describes how accepting help during rehabilitation changed his understanding of service, gratitude, and leadership. Those experiences helped shape his desire to support other people as they grow. The conversation moves beyond pushing through adversity. Craig reflects on managing teams, navigating rapid business growth, and learning from difficult company experiences. He explains why leadership development is an ongoing journey and why the situations that went wrong can become valuable lessons for founders and growing CEOs. For entrepreneurs, a personal story becomes useful when you can explain how it helps someone else. Craig shares how stepping outside his comfort zone, building relationships, and asking for specific introductions helped him develop his independent business. Rather than assuming people will recognize your value, he encourages you to make the connection clear. NaRon and Craig also examine a common sales problem: people may like your product or service without being willing to pay for it. They discuss finding the right customers, choosing the rooms and platforms where those customers spend time, testing your offer, and adjusting it in response to actual buying decisions. One practical question anchors the discussion: what would your potential customer type into Google to find help? Using the customer’s language can reveal the difference between the problem you think you solve and the problem they recognize. Clear messaging connects what you do with why it matters to the person buying. IN THIS EPISODE • Building entrepreneurial resilience after a major setback. • Accepting help and turning gratitude into service. • Learning leadership lessons from business challenges. • Turning lived experience into a clear value proposition. • Using business networking and specific introduction requests. • Finding the right audience for your product or service. • Testing offers, pricing, and customer willingness to pay. • Writing customer-focused messaging in recognizable language. KEY TAKEAWAY Resilience helps you keep learning, but business growth also requires feedback. Your experience has value when it addresses a problem someone else understands and wants help solving. Keep the lesson; stay willing to change the offer. YOUR NEXT MOVE Choose one problem you help people solve. Write the exact question a potential customer might search for, then describe your offer in one sentence that answers it. Share that sentence with a potential customer and ask what feels clear, what feels confusing, and what would make the offer useful. ABOUT CRAIG WAHL Craig Wahl draws on decades in technology businesses to help founders and business leaders grow. In this conversation, he shares lessons from team leadership, customer management, go-to-market work, and building his own service business. CONNECT WITH CRAIG WAHL Website: http://www.njorth.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigawahl/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/craigwahl Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ca.wahlsy Follow Walk In Victory for conversations that turn awareness into practical action. Share this episode with a founder navigating a difficult season, and explore Victory Builders: https://walkinvictory.me Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

Why would a Baptist pastor join the FBI, and how do you rebuild your identity when a demanding career ends? Retired FBI agent Eric Robinson joins Walk In Victory to discuss career transition, faith and service, family presence, and learning to release responsibilities that no longer belong to you. NaRon Tillman sits down with Eric to explore his unusual path from 12 years in Christian ministry to federal law enforcement and a SWAT team. Eric describes how the same concern for people could take different forms across those roles. His story invites a practical question: can your commitment to service remain steady even when your title, workplace, and daily responsibilities change? The conversation also examines the habits a high-pressure career can leave behind. Eric recalls reacting to a familiar alert sound shortly after retirement before remembering he no longer had to respond. He describes the shift from constant readiness toward awareness: noticing what is happening without assuming every situation is still his responsibility to handle. For anyone navigating retirement, a career change, or an identity transition, that distinction matters. Experience can remain useful without keeping you permanently on call. Eric shares the relief of enjoying family time without anticipating an unexpected departure, while reflecting on how he worked to be present at home throughout his FBI career. NaRon and Eric discuss artificial intelligence, surveillance technology, and the judgment of the people using those tools. Drawing on his own experience, Eric considers both investigative uses and public concerns about abuse. Their discussion encourages thoughtful questions about purpose, responsibility, and impact rather than treating technology as automatically beneficial or harmful. Eric also explains how writing his memoir helped him revisit experiences and organize the lessons behind them. He describes including after-action reviews that consider what worked, what nearly went wrong, and what could inform the next situation. The focus returns to people: understanding their circumstances, recognizing their humanity, and remaining open to what they are experiencing. IN THIS EPISODE • Why a Baptist pastor became an FBI agent. • Carrying faith, empathy, and service into a different career. • Recognizing the difference between vigilance and awareness. • Staying present for family while working a demanding job. • Navigating retirement and identity beyond a professional role. • Asking responsible questions about AI and surveillance. • Using storytelling and after-action reviews to reflect on experience. • The pressures of pastoral leadership and expectations in ministry. KEY TAKEAWAY Your role can change without erasing your purpose. Awareness helps you recognize which responsibilities still belong to you, which habits come from an earlier chapter, and how you want to serve in the season you are living now. YOUR NEXT MOVE Identify one habit or responsibility you are carrying from a previous role. Ask whether it is still yours to manage. Choose one concrete adjustment this week that makes room for greater presence, a clearer boundary, or a new way to contribute. ABOUT ERIC ROBINSON Eric Robinson is a retired FBI agent and former Baptist pastor. In this interview, he reflects on Christian ministry, investigations, SWAT service, retirement, and the process of writing about his experiences. CONNECT WITH ERIC ROBINSON Website: http://www.preachertobreacher.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-robinson-9220053a4/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_eric_robinson/ Follow Walk In Victory for conversations that connect awareness with practical action. Share this episode with someone navigating a new chapter of work, identity, or service. Explore Victory Builders: https://walkinvictory.me Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

Do you have to choose between scientific curiosity and spiritual belief? NaRon Tillman sits down with author Elizabeth Beckett to explore how she brings her scientific training and mystical interests into the same body of work—and why she sees inquiry and faith as complementary parts of her life. Drawing on her travels in Egypt and her books The Book of Life and A Memory of Flight, Elizabeth shares her interpretations of ancient symbolism, mystery schools, and spiritual practice. Together, they discuss how historical narratives shape identity, why questioning inherited ideas matters, and what it means to bring your beliefs and professional work into alignment. In This Episode: • Exploring the relationship between science and spirituality • Bringing scientific training and mystical interests into creative work • Elizabeth’s interpretations of ancient Egyptian mystery schools • Symbolism, meditation, and spiritual meaning • Questioning inherited narratives with curiosity and discernment • Integrating faith, identity, and professional purpose Key Insight: You can explore spiritual meaning while asking careful questions about evidence and interpretation. Awareness grows when you examine both what you believe and how you arrived at that belief. Your Next Move: Choose one belief you have inherited without examining. Write down its source, the evidence behind it, and one question you want to explore more deeply. Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with someone who values thoughtful conversations about faith, identity, and the human experience. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

How do you build an ethical business that makes a profit while supporting the people and communities behind it? Jean-Christian Rindoni joins Walk In Victory to explain conscious business, circular supply chains, and practical ways leaders can create value across their business ecosystem. NaRon Tillman sits down with the founder of Symbiosis Infinity Group to explore how business ethics can shape sourcing, negotiation, partnerships, and leadership decisions. Their conversation asks what changes when a company considers employees, suppliers, customers, investors, and communities as connected participants in its success. Jean-Christian shares how a period of reflection in nature inspired his Symbiosis Infinity Loop model. He uses interdependence in nature as a way to think about business relationships: when one part of a network struggles, the effects can extend beyond it. His approach encourages leaders to examine the strength of the whole ecosystem rather than focus only on their own immediate return. A central example is his work around cocoa husks and cooperatives in Cameroon. Jean-Christian describes looking beyond cocoa beans to consider potential uses for an overlooked agricultural resource. He discusses connecting producers with buyers, exploring additional revenue opportunities, and designing relationships intended to support both commercial needs and local livelihoods. The conversation makes circularity more concrete through multi-year agreements, negotiated premiums, community reinvestment, and direct relationships with producers. Jean-Christian also explains his longer-term vision for transformation at source: bringing technical knowledge, processing capabilities, and more value-creating activity closer to the communities where raw materials originate. NaRon brings his own experience with negotiation into the discussion. Together, they explore why a deal should leave both sides able to continue the relationship, how purpose can inform business storytelling, and why ethical leadership requires more than a statement on a website. Jean-Christian frames leadership as stewardship and encourages business owners to consider the legacy their everyday decisions create. For entrepreneurs and leaders interested in sustainable business growth, the useful question is where intention becomes practice. The discussion examines the gap between a sustainability strategy on paper and the decisions that shape supplier relationships, resource use, and shared value. It offers a lens for reviewing how your own business operates. IN THIS EPISODE • What conscious business means in everyday decisions. • The Symbiosis Infinity Loop and business interdependence. • Circular supply chains and ethical sourcing. • Cocoa husks as an example of overlooked resource value. • Long-term partnerships with producers and cooperatives. • Community reinvestment and transformation at source. • Connecting purpose, customer communication, and brand story. • Leadership as stewardship and building a lasting legacy. KEY TAKEAWAY Purpose becomes meaningful when it influences how value is created and shared. An ethical business asks who benefits, who carries the risk, and whether its relationships can support lasting success for the people involved. YOUR NEXT MOVE Choose one supplier, customer, or team relationship. Identify what each side contributes, where pressure or risk is concentrated, and one practical change you could discuss to make the partnership stronger. Start with a specific conversation rather than a broad promise. ABOUT JEAN-CHRISTIAN RINDONI Jean-Christian Rindoni is the founder of Symbiosis Infinity Group. In this interview, he discusses conscious business growth, circular supply chains, strategic partnerships, and his Symbiosis Infinity Loop model. CONNECT WITH JEAN-CHRISTIAN RINDONI Website: https://sigconsulting.net/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcrindoni/ YouTube playlists: https://www.youtube.com/@SymbiosisInfintyGroup/playlists Follow Walk In Victory for conversations that turn awareness into practical action. Share this episode with a leader building profit with purpose. Explore Victory Builders: https://walkinvictory.me Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

What do you do when retirement is approaching and your financial plan falls apart? NaRon Tillman sits down with author and entrepreneur David Nassief to explore how he rebuilt after losing his job at 63 and developed his One Page Wealth Compass to bring direction to his financial decisions. David shares how earlier business setbacks became lessons, why earning money and building wealth require different skills, and how a simple weekly review helped him turn information into action. The conversation connects mindset and identity with clear priorities, consistent habits, and a practical system for staying on course. In This Episode: • Starting over after a late-career job loss • Reframing setbacks as education • The difference between earning income and building wealth • How the One Page Wealth Compass organizes financial priorities • Avoiding distractions and staying committed to a plan • Using a two-minute weekly review to turn awareness into action Key Insight: Working harder does not always mean moving forward. A clear direction and a repeatable review process help you recognize where you are, choose your next step, and follow through. Your Next Move: Write down where your financial plan feels unclear. Choose one priority to review this week and set a recurring check-in to track the action you take. Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with someone rebuilding their next chapter. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

Why can you earn more money and still repeat the same financial patterns? NaRon Tillman sits down with entrepreneur and author Randy Gage to explore how self-identity, inherited money beliefs, and personal responsibility shape the way we build businesses and handle success. Randy reflects on business setbacks and the shift from blaming circumstances to examining his own decisions. Together, they unpack why adding new habits to an unchanged identity can leave old patterns intact, how to choose collaborative business relationships, and why prosperity includes health and family as well as income. In This Episode: • Recognizing the money beliefs you inherited • How self-esteem and self-identity influence your decisions • Taking responsibility after business setbacks • Choosing collaboration over exploitative business relationships • Learning to manage what you earn • Building prosperity without sacrificing health and family Key Insight: New habits need an identity that supports them. Examine the beliefs driving your decisions, then pair that awareness with responsibility, consistent action, and better stewardship. Your Next Move: Write down one belief about money you absorbed growing up. Identify how it shows up in a decision you make today, and choose one small action that challenges that pattern this week. Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with an entrepreneur ready to examine the thinking behind their next move. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

What helps you keep going when motivation fades and life hits back? NaRon Tillman sits down with endurance swimmer Steve “Moby” Leitch to explore how daily discipline, faith, and consistent habits build an unbreakable mindset. Through his Oceans Seven swimming journey and the documentary Beyond the Shoreline: The Channel of Bones, Steve shares what demanding open-water swims have taught him about preparation, perseverance, and service. The conversation connects those lessons to business, relationships, and the work we do when nobody is watching. In This Episode: • Building spiritual, physical, relational, and financial habits • Why discipline matters when motivation runs out • Preparing for opportunity through consistent daily action • Lessons from the Oceans Seven swimming challenge • Leading and working from gratitude and service • Redefining success beyond money, power, and fame Key Insight: An unbreakable mindset grows through the habits you practice before a challenge arrives. Daily preparation gives you a foundation to keep moving when circumstances change. Your Next Move: Choose one small habit that strengthens your daily foundation. Practice it consistently this week, and connect with someone you can encourage along the way. Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with someone facing a demanding season. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

Are your everyday thoughts moving you toward the life you want—or keeping you in patterns you have never questioned? NaRon Tillman sits down with entrepreneur and Thinking for Success author John Knowlton to explore how awareness, language, and storytelling can help us examine our default thinking and make more intentional choices. John shares how stories helped his team solve problems more independently, why he became more selective about the content he consumes, and how faith helps him pause when he feels reactive. The conversation then turns to family legacy: bringing adult children into conversations about money, shared values, philanthropy, and long-term responsibility. In This Episode: • Observing your thoughts instead of automatically following them • Moving from scarcity language toward intentional choices • Using stories to teach principles and strengthen decision-making • Being selective about the content shaping your perspective • Connecting imagination with practical action • Building family conversations around wealth, values, and legacy Key Insight: A lasting legacy starts with intentional thinking and shared action. John’s approach connects the stories we repeat today with the values and decisions we pass to the next generation. Your Next Move: Notice one phrase you repeat when you feel limited. Rewrite it to reflect a choice you can make, then start one conversation with your family about the values you want your decisions to serve. Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with someone ready to think more intentionally about their future. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

What do people say about you when you are not in the room—and does it reflect the brand you want to build? NaRon Tillman sits down with author and communication strategist Ben Baker to explore personal branding beyond logos, colors, and online visibility. Ben explains how your actions, reliability, and communication shape your reputation over time. Together, they discuss staying relevant as customer needs change, using AI while preserving your voice, learning across generations, and building trust through honest leadership during a crisis. In This Episode: • Understanding the invisible side of your personal brand • Building a lasting reputation instead of chasing attention • Evolving your work while staying true to your values • Using AI to support your content and preserve your voice • Seeking honest feedback and learning from others • Leading through uncertainty with vulnerability and clear communication Key Insight: Your personal brand lives in the experience people have with you. Trust grows when your actions consistently support the value you promise. Your Next Move: Ask someone you trust what you are known for and one thing you could improve. Compare their answer with the reputation you want to build, then choose one behavior to practice more consistently this week. Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with someone building a business or stepping into leadership. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

Does having followers make you a leader—or does leadership show up in how you develop the people around you? NaRon Tillman sits down with robotics entrepreneur and Marine veteran Mike LeBlanc to explore leadership beyond charisma, titles, and winning at any cost. Drawing on his military experience and work building robotics companies, Mike shares why understanding human nature, finding common ground, and developing your team matter. The conversation also explores humanoid robots, the questions automation raises about work, and the personal qualities Mike believes will remain valuable as technology changes. In This Episode: • Separating popularity and authority from real leadership • Why how you win matters as much as the result • Closing the gap between leaders and the people they serve • How humanoid robots could reshape work • Examining the opportunities and costs of automation • Developing integrity, perspective, and self-regulation Key Insight: Leadership is measured by more than the scoreboard. It also shows up in the people you develop and the culture you build along the way. Your Next Move: Choose one person on your team whose experience differs from yours. Ask what you may be missing, listen without defending your position, and identify one action you can take together. Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with someone leading through technological change. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

What business idea have you been putting off because you think you lack the skills, time, or resources to build it? NaRon Tillman sits down with Famous.ai co-founder Alex Mehr to explore how AI tools can help entrepreneurs test ideas—and why the willingness to try still begins with mindset. Alex shares his transition from engineering research into entrepreneurship, explains his regret minimization framework, and offers a practical way to explore new interests without committing years to an untested idea. Together, they discuss imagination, identity, customer feedback, and taking more swings while staying accountable to a clear milestone. In This Episode: • Breaking out of labels that limit your potential • Using AI to move from an idea to a testable product • Applying the regret minimization framework • Setting deadlines and milestones for new experiments • Learning from customer feedback and repeated attempts • Focusing on what you can control as technology changes Key Insight: Better tools create opportunities, but action still requires human agency. Give an idea a defined window, test it, and use what you learn to decide your next move. Your Next Move: Choose one idea you have been postponing. Set a deadline, define the first result you want to test, and ask a potential customer for honest feedback before making a larger commitment. Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with someone ready to put their ideas into motion. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

Are you working harder while the things that matter most keep getting less of your time? NaRon Tillman sits down with stewardship coach Scott Maderer to explore how priorities, boundaries, and self-management shape the way we use our time and money. Scott shares his journey from teaching and corporate leadership into coaching, and explains why defining success must come before building a productivity system. Together, they examine the cost of chasing someone else’s life, protecting family time, and choosing support that helps you see your blind spots. In This Episode: • Why time management begins with self-management • Defining success beyond money and busyness • Setting boundaries around work and family • Recognizing the hidden cost of every commitment • Understanding coaching, mentoring, and consulting • Using AI alongside human perspective and accountability Key Insight: Your calendar reveals your priorities. Meaningful change begins when your daily choices reflect what you say matters most. Your Next Move: Choose one priority that deserves more space in your life. Protect time for it this week, and communicate the boundary before someone else’s urgency fills that space. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

How do you lead clearly when every decision carries pressure—and your team is watching how you respond?   NaRon Tillman sits down with software executive Jacob Reeves to explore stress management, emotional intelligence, and the human side of leading a business through change.   Drawing on his experience running private equity-backed companies and serving in the Tennessee Army National Guard, Jacob shares how he plans for pressure, protects his mental and emotional capacity, and builds trust through listening and action. They also discuss how leaders can encourage AI adoption through curiosity, experimentation, and clear communication.   In This Episode: • Planning for stress before high-stakes decisions • Managing your mental and emotional currency • Rebuilding team morale by listening to understand • Balancing empathy with difficult personnel decisions • Creating employee buy-in and shared ownership • Helping teams explore AI tools without leading through fear   Key Insight: Leadership under pressure begins with how you manage yourself. Listening, empathy, and clear expectations help your team move through uncertainty with you.   Your Next Move: Before your next high-pressure meeting, identify what is draining your capacity and one action that helps you reset. Then ask your team where they are experiencing friction—and follow through on what you hear.   Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with someone leading through change. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

Can a leader deliver great results and still damage the people who make those results possible?   NaRon Tillman sits down with executive coach Dr. Katrina Burrus, author of Managing Brilliant Jerks, to explore how technically gifted but abrasive leaders can develop the emotional intelligence to lead more effectively.   Dr. Burrus explains her progression from self-awareness to boss awareness and stakeholder awareness. The conversation examines how feedback reveals leadership blind spots, why organizations must support behavior change, and how leaders can manage triggers without lowering their standards.   In This Episode: • The difference between a demanding boss and a toxic leader • Why expertise and high IQ do not guarantee emotional intelligence • Using feedback to close the gap between intention and impact • Self-awareness, boss awareness, and stakeholder awareness • Managing emotional triggers and giving constructive feedback • How leadership identity affects work and personal relationships   Key Insight: High standards and respect can work together. Effective leaders address the task, help people improve, and take responsibility for the impact of their behavior.   Your Next Move: Ask someone you lead: “What is one thing I do that helps you succeed—and one thing that makes your work harder?” Listen before defending your intention.   Follow Walk In Victory and share this episode with a leader or team member who needs it. Explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me.   Connect with Dr. Katrina Burrus: Excellent Executive Coaching Podcast: https://mkbconseil.ch/eec-podcast/ Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.

What good is a million views if you still can’t build a sustainable creative business?   NaRon Tillman sits down with independent filmmaker Jeremy Norrie to explore the business behind content creation: ownership, streaming revenue, personal branding, and the uncertainty of earning a living on platforms you don’t control.   Jeremy shares why some of his older projects outperform newer, more polished work—and why chasing a viral formula can leave creators frustrated. Together, they examine how AI is changing film and music, where human creativity still holds value, and why a direct relationship with your audience matters.   In This Episode: • The tradeoffs between exposure, revenue, and creative independence • How streaming and film distribution affect creator income • Why creators need to build their own personal brand • Why better production doesn’t always bring better returns • AI’s opportunities and challenges for artists and filmmakers • Building a community beyond the algorithm   Key Insight: Views are attention. A sustainable creative business also needs ownership, business awareness, and people who value your work enough to support it.   Your Next Move: Identify one way to deepen your connection with your audience beyond a platform feed. Start with a conversation, an email list, or a community space you manage.   Follow Walk In Victory, share this episode with a creator, and explore Victory Builders at walkinvictory.me.   Connect with Jeremy Norrie — Sky Island Storytelling: Website: http://theskyisland.com/ Instagram: http://instagram.com/skyislandstorytelling YouTube: http://youtube.com/skyislandstorytellingbts X / Twitter: http://twitter.com/skyislandstorys Facebook: http://facebook.com/skyislandstorytelling Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/walk-in-victory--4078479/support. If this conversation gave you a new way to see yourself, continue the work with NaRon Tillman’s book, Awakening I AM: Internal Awareness in an AI Age: books.by/naron-tillman Sponsored by Cozy Earth. Use code VICTORY1 for 40% off.