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The Law Firm Owner Podcast

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388 episodes
Language
English
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No
Date created
2019/08/09
Latest episode
2026/10/20
Average duration
30 min.
Release period
7 days

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The Law Firm Owner Podcast, powered by Velocity Work, is the go-to resource for law firm owners looking to take their business to the next level. Host and founder Melissa Shanahan shares insights and practical advice on how to organize your numbers, grow your team, increase your revenue, and achieve a better work-life balance. Through quarterly strategic planning, accountability, and coaching, Melissa shows listeners how to create sustainable success for both their firms and their personal lives. Tune in each week to join the community of law firm owners who are committed to taking their businesses from where they are now to where they want to be.

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#384: Building Better Systems for Your Law Firm with Jason Ebbens
2026/10/20
What could change in your law firm if the processes that keep it running were more connected, consistent, and automated? Jason Ebbens has spent years evolving from a paralegal into the operations leader at Jeff Lewis Law, finding new ways to improve how the firm works.         In this episode, Melissa talks with Jason about building automated systems, using AI to support operational processes, and creating better visibility into the firm's performance. Jason explains how he uses Black Box design to map processes around a desired outcome, automate steps along the way, and connect information across the business. He also shares how automation has reduced the time he spends compiling reports and how clear expectations help build accountability across the team.        Tune in to learn how you can rethink the processes in your firm, identify opportunities for automation, and establish expectations that help your team take ownership of their work.                                       Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar        Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/384
#383: How Law Firms Are Adapting to AI with Jeff Lewis
2026/10/13
How should law firm owners think about AI as it becomes a bigger part of the way legal work gets done? In this episode, Melissa talks with Jeff Lewis, a law firm owner and Velocity Work client, about how his firm is approaching AI and what he has learned while integrating it into the business.       Jeff shares how his firm has evaluated AI tools, developed guidelines around their use, and found practical ways to incorporate AI into research, workflows, and daily operations. He explains why building skills and systems around AI is more valuable than relying on any single tool and how thoughtful adoption can help firms create more capacity while maintaining quality.        You'll learn how to think about AI adoption in your firm, what questions to consider before bringing new technology into your workflows, and why adapting to AI requires both experimentation and strong judgment.                                   Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar        Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/383
#382: Heads Down, Grinding It Out: When Working Harder Isn't the Answer
2026/10/06
What happens when the thing you are waiting for is the very thing that is keeping you stuck? In this episode, Melissa explores what happens when law firm owners stay heads down in the work, pushing harder and trying to create stability without stepping back to examine whether their current approach can actually get them where they want to go.        Diving deeper into one of the examples she introduced around how difficult it can be to see the truth from inside your own situation, Melissa walks through a firm that was doing many things right but was still carrying too much of the day-to-day workload at the owner level.        By looking at the facts, running the numbers, and playing out different scenarios, they were able to uncover opportunities they could not see from inside the situation.                               Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar           ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen        Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/382
#381: Lost at Sea: When Your Firm No Longer Needs You the Same Way
2026/09/29
What happens when you finally build the successful firm you have been working toward, but the role you once had inside it starts to change? In this episode, Melissa explores the identity shift that can happen when a law firm owner successfully gets themselves out of the middle of everything and suddenly has more space than they know what to do with.       In the second episode of this three-part series, Melissa dives deeper into one of the examples she introduced around how difficult it can be to see the truth from inside your own situation. She shares what it looks like when an owner's firm no longer requires the same level of day-to-day involvement, why that transition can feel disorienting, and what is important to consider as your role evolves.       In this episode, you'll learn why success can create unexpected challenges, how to recognize when your identity is still tied to an old version of your role, and why creating a new relationship with your time and contribution is an important part of growing as an owner.                           Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar           ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen        Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/381
#380: The Truth Is Hard to See from Inside It
2026/09/22
It can be incredibly difficult to see the truth when you are standing in the middle of your own situation. In the first episode of this three-part series, Melissa explores why even successful law firm owners can struggle to get an objective view of what is actually happening in their business and how their perspective can shape the way they see a situation.        Melissa shares two examples of firms that looked very different on the surface but had the same challenge: they were making decisions based on the best read they had, not necessarily the full picture. She explains how creating structure, asking better questions, and finding concrete anchors can help owners better understand what is actually happening and uncover what they need to see more clearly.                     Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar           ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen        Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/380
#379: Generosity Has to Be Engineered for a Healthy Business
2026/09/15
Generosity is a value many law firm owners want to prioritize, but what happens when that generosity is not supported by a healthy business? In this episode, Melissa explores why good intentions are not enough and why generosity has to be intentionally designed into the firm.        Taking care of your team through benefits, compensation, flexibility, and other investments is a worthwhile goal. But when those decisions are made without considering the health of the business, the firm can end up carrying costs it cannot sustain. Melissa shares why the entity itself has to be strong enough to provide generosity and how owners can evaluate whether their current approach is creating long-term stability.       In this episode, you'll learn how to think differently about generosity, the financial metrics that reveal whether your firm can support your current investments, and why protecting the health of the business is ultimately what allows you to take better care of your people.                 Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar           ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen        Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/379
#378: Financial Clarity and Law Firm Profitability with Shavon Smith
2026/09/08
What changes when you stop guessing about your firm's financial health and start understanding what the numbers are actually telling you? In this episode, Melissa continues her conversation with Velocity Work client Shavon Smith about the financial clarity that helped her better understand her firm, identify opportunities, and make more intentional decisions about growth.       Shavon shares how looking more closely at write-offs, producer multiple, hours, and financial data changed the way she viewed the business. She discusses the mindset behind cutting time from bills, how tracking the numbers helped her change those habits, and how clearer financial visibility created more confidence around hiring, capacity, and future growth.       This episode will help you think differently about the role financial data plays in running a law firm. You'll learn why understanding your numbers creates more options, how profitability metrics can reveal the health of your business, and why having better visibility allows you to make decisions from a place of confidence instead of uncertainty.            Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar          ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen       Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/378                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
#377: Valuing Your Expertise and Growing Your Law Firm with Shavon Smith
2026/09/01
What happens when a law firm owner realizes growth requires more than just continuing to work harder? In this episode, Melissa sits down with Velocity Work client Shavon Smith, a business attorney who serves entrepreneurs and growing companies as a fractional general counsel, to talk about the shifts that helped her move beyond a growth ceiling and run her firm more intentionally.        Shavon shares what changed when she started looking more closely at the numbers, setting clearer standards, and making decisions based on data instead of instinct. She discusses raising her rates, valuing her experience, delegating more effectively, creating better expectations for her team, and becoming more selective about the clients and work she takes on.      This episode will help you think differently about what it takes to grow a law firm without simply adding more hours. You'll learn why visibility into your numbers changes the decisions you make, how valuing your expertise affects profitability, and why intentional changes in how you lead can create more capacity and alignment in your firm.         Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar          ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen       Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/377                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
#376: Supporting Law Firm Growth: People, Systems, and Culture with Jenni Evans
2026/08/25
What happens when your law firm grows faster than your capacity to keep doing everything the way you always have? Jenni Evans, the operational backbone at Evans Family Law and Velocity Work client, joins Melissa to share her perspective on the firm's evolution and 48% growth over the past year. As the firm has grown, so have the demands on Jenni's role, making it clear where the business and its people need more support.    In this episode, Melissa and Jenni discuss the work happening behind the scenes at Evans Family Law. Jenni shares how they have invested in their people, built a strong culture of accountability and support, and learned to surround themselves with partners who bring expertise to the business. She also shares what she is learning about letting go of lower value work so she can focus on where she contributes most.     Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar          ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen       Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/376                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
#375: The Honest Assessment Every Law Firm Owner Needs with Jimmy Evans
2026/08/18
What happens when you take an honest look at your law firm and realize some of the things that need to change might not be what you expected? In this episode, Melissa continues her conversation with Velocity Work client Jimmy Evans about the importance of challenging assumptions, using data to make decisions, and being willing to adjust how you lead your firm.        Jimmy shares what he has learned from evaluating his firm's growth, including the changes he made around hiring, team expectations, and accountability. He discusses why experience alone is not always the best indicator of the right hire, how data can reveal opportunities and blind spots, and why owners have to be willing to step back and ask whether their current approach is actually serving the firm they want to build.       This episode will help you think differently about how you lead and grow your law firm. You'll learn why honest assessment is essential for making better decisions, how hiring for the right qualities can change your team, and why creating clear expectations and accountability allows the right people to thrive.                                              Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar          ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen       Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/375                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
#374: Investing in Your Team to Create a Mission-Driven Firm with Jimmy Evans
2026/08/11
What happens after you hire the right people? The next challenge is making sure they understand how your firm operates, what you value, and what it takes to deliver the experience your clients expect. In this episode, Melissa continues her conversation with Velocity Work client Jimmy Evans about the intentional investment he made in developing his team and creating a mission-driven firm.        Jimmy shares how he created an incubator and accelerator process to transfer his knowledge, systems, and approach to his team. He explains why hiring experienced people is not enough, why owners cannot expect team members to simply know how they do things, and how investing upfront in training creates stronger alignment, confidence, and consistency over time.       This episode will help you rethink how you develop people inside your law firm. You'll learn why your expertise needs to be transferred intentionally, how creating systems around your values strengthens your team, and why investing in your people can become one of the most important decisions you make as an owner.                                          Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar          ‍Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://vwrk.cc/gideonasen       Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm           Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/374                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
#373: Rebuilding a Law Firm Around the Right People with Jimmy Evans
2026/08/04
What happens when you realize the biggest challenge in your law firm isn't your clients or your reputation, but the people and culture needed to support the firm you want to build? In this episode, Melissa sits down with Velocity Work client Jimmy Evans, owner of a family law practice, to discuss the difficult decisions he made to rebuild his team around a clear mission, stronger accountability, and the right people.       Jimmy shares the story of how he went from believing he could solve his firm's challenges through hard work and investing in his team to recognizing that something deeper needed to change. He discusses the difficult process of rebuilding his culture, making tough personnel decisions, using data to understand what was really happening inside the firm, and creating a team aligned with the values and mission of his firm.       This episode will help you think differently about the role of leadership in building a law firm that can grow beyond you. You'll learn why hiring the right people matters more than simply filling roles, how accountability and clarity shape culture, and why making difficult decisions can create the foundation for a stronger firm.                                      Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar         Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm          Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/373                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
#372: Reaching Your Revenue Goals: Reverse Engineering the Plan
2026/07/28
A revenue goal is more than just a number on a page. To make it a reality, you need to understand what has to happen underneath it. In this episode, Melissa walks through how to reverse engineer your revenue goal by breaking it down into the smaller goals, data points, and strategic priorities that create a clear path forward.         Melissa explains how understanding your average revenue per matter, the percentage each revenue stream contributes, and the numbers behind your firm can transform the way you plan. Instead of relying on assumptions or simply hoping you reach a target, you can use real data to understand what needs to happen to move your firm forward.         If you want to create a more strategic approach to your firm's growth, this episode will help you understand how to work backwards from your goals and identify the actions that make them achievable. You'll learn how to use the right numbers to plan with more clarity, make smarter decisions, and build a roadmap based on what is actually possible for your firm.                                 Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar         Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm          Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/372                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
#371: Get Out of Your Own Way: Strategic Planning With the Right Partner
2026/07/21
Strategic planning can feel overwhelming when you try to do it all on your own. In this episode, Melissa explains why law firm owners often get stuck and how having the right partner or support can help you clarify priorities, make better decisions, and maintain momentum throughout the planning process.         Melissa walks through common pitfalls owners face when attempting to facilitate their own strategic plan and shows how structured support can help you stay focused, evaluate opportunities, and plan effectively without feeling overwhelmed. You'll hear practical insights on balancing ownership, leadership, and accountability while making strategic decisions that move your firm forward.      This episode will help you see why you don't have to do strategic planning alone, how to leverage support effectively, and how to approach your firm's priorities with clarity and direction. By integrating these practices, you can make intentional progress, maintain focus, and set your law firm up for sustainable growth.                            Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar         Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm          Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/371                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
#370: Mid-Year Reflection: 4 Anchors for Clarity and Growth
2026/07/14
As the year moves into its second half, are you clear on what truly matters for your law firm and where you want to end the year? In this episode, Melissa shares a framework of four anchors you can use to reflect on your current situation. This is a good time to focus on your priorities and take intentional actions that drive meaningful progress.         Melissa explains how these anchors can help you evaluate opportunities and clarify next steps. They provide perspective on where to allocate resources, how to prioritize effectively, and ways to stay focused without feeling overwhelmed.      Applying this approach lets you guide the rest of the year strategically while managing your time and energy intentionally. By the end of the year, you'll be able to look back with confidence knowing you addressed what mattered most.                            Let's talk! If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar         Calculate your producer multiple with our free Producer Calculator here: https://vwrk.cc/pm          Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/370                    Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork

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4.9 out of 5
38 reviews
★★★★★
Roya Vasseghi 2026/06/29
This Podcast Changed How I Run My Firm
I found Melissa’s podcast before I ever became a coaching client, and it completely changed the way I thought about running my law firm. I wasn’t just...
★★★★★
Kary Oberbrunner 2026/05/18
Great content Melissa
Super practical and actionable. I like a podcast that addresses issues and provides clarity. I highly recommend.
★★★★★
Crista-Lawfirm Owner 2022/01/26
Exactly what I needed!
Thank you Malissa for don’t flake on yourself episode. It was exactly what I needed to hear to help push me! Thank you for such great information you ...
★★★★★
vitalej17 2021/11/02
Melissa is the BEST!!!!!!
Over the years I’ve listened to dozens of podcasts for firm owners. And while there are some truly great ones out there, I find myself tuning into thi...
★★★★★
Maine lawyer dude 2021/10/23
One of the meatiest legal podcasts out there
Many podcasts out there are clearly just a surface level reminder to hire the podcaster. These are not. Recent work has shown really increased depth ...
★★★★★
JohnnyTL123456789 2020/11/03
Great show for lawyer entrepreneurs!
Great show with ideas for lawyers who need to grow their firm beyond the current rut. Once you’ve got a running firm, your challenges change and you’l...
★★★★★
Mitch Zoll 2020/09/02
The podcast to help you achieve your goals
There are many reasons to listen to a podcast- to be entertained, to be informed, maybe even to be inspired. This podcast has all three. Melissa Shana...
★★★★★
ErnieAttorney 2020/05/13
Practical, Profound & Powerful
Melissa Shanahan truly and deeply cares about helping solo & small firm lawyers. And just as important, she has profound practical wisdom about how to...
★★★★★
writlaw 2020/05/09
Great information that will make you smile
Melissa provides great information and content and her passion for helping is obvious. Not only will you learn something you’ll come out with a smile
★★★★★
Ryan McKeen 2020/01/04
Melissa Brings So Much Value
If you run a business you should listen to this podcast. Melissa brings so much value. She does so in a way that is kind and insightful. With every ep...
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