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Date created
2019/08/09
Latest episode
2026/04/21
Average duration
29 min.
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7 days
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The Law Firm Owner Podcast, powered by Velocity Work, is the go-to resource for law firm owners looking to take their business to the next level. Host and founder Melissa Shanahan shares insights and practical advice on how to organize your numbers, grow your team, increase your revenue, and achieve a better work-life balance. Through quarterly strategic planning, accountability, and coaching, Melissa shows listeners how to create sustainable success for both their firms and their personal lives. Tune in each week to join the community of law firm owners who are committed to taking their businesses from where they are now to where they want to be.
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#358: The Hidden Costs of Buying a Law Firm: Managing Time, Effort, and Emotions with Michael Di Gennaro
2026/04/21
Buying a law firm may seem like an exciting growth opportunity, but it involves more than just signing a contract. What hidden costs do buyers often miss? In this episode, Melissa is joined again by Michael Di Gennaro, law firm transaction expert, to discuss the real costs beyond financials. Michael shares insights into the emotional, operational, and resource-related challenges that come with acquisitions.
If you're considering buying a law firm or just want to understand what's involved, this episode offers key advice on managing the emotional and operational complexities. Learn what you need to prepare for so you can enter a deal ready to succeed, avoid surprises, and ultimately make a deal that works for both you and the seller.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/358
Check out Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright's podcast Elawvate: Build and Grow Your Law Firm on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://www.elawvate.fm/show/elawvate-build-grow-your-law-firm/
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#357: Buying a Law Firm: What Needs to Be in Place First with Michael Di Gennaro
2026/04/14
What needs to be in place before you buy a law firm, and how do you know if you are actually ready for that level of responsibility? It is easy to view acquisition as a faster path to growth, but without the right foundation, it can create more complexity than progress. Melissa is joined again by Michael Di Gennaro, a law firm transaction expert from The Law Practice Exchange, to break down what firm owners need to consider before pursuing a deal.
In this episode, Melissa and Michael outline when buying a law firm can make more sense than growing organically and the different types of buyers entering the market. The conversation focuses on what must be in place inside your firm before you move forward with a purchase. Clear financial visibility, defined processes, and strong operational systems are essential. Without them, acquisition tends to compound existing issues rather than solve them. This episode will help you assess your readiness and approach a potential deal with clarity and discipline.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/357
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#356: Structure Your Firm's P&L for Visibility and Clarity
2026/04/07
Does your P&L actually give you clarity, or does it leave you feeling unsettled without knowing why? When you can't clearly see what's coming in, what's going out, and what's left over, you're left to fill in the gaps, and that's where confusion and poor decisions start to creep in.
In this episode, Melissa breaks down what your profit and loss statement should actually show you and why structure matters more than most law firm owners realize. She explains how creating a proper P&L gives you real visibility into how your firm operates, from income breakdowns to expense categories and everything in between. By the end, you'll understand how to turn your P&L into a tool that helps you lead your firm with clarity instead of guesswork.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/356
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#355: Hidden Legal & Financial Risks as Your Law Firm Grows with Megan Robin
2026/03/31
Are there risks quietly building inside your law firm that you don't even know to look for? Many owners focus on increasing revenue and reducing taxes, but underneath those goals, there are structural decisions that can create serious exposure if they're not set up correctly.
In this episode, Melissa sits down with tax attorney Megan Robin to unpack the hidden legal and financial risks that often go unnoticed as firms grow. From retirement plans governed by ERISA to the complexities of health plan structures, Megan explains how well-intentioned decisions can lead to unintended consequences, including personal liability and costly penalties. If your firm is scaling or starting to feel more complex, this episode will help you understand where to look and what to address before small issues turn into major problems.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/355
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#354: How Market Volatility Affects Your Investment Portfolio with Megan Robin
2026/03/24
What does market volatility reveal about your investment portfolio? In this episode, tax attorney Megan Robin returns to break down how economic uncertainty impacts law firm owners' portfolios, offering key insights into what to look for during times of market fluctuation.
Megan discusses how bull markets can mask potential issues, such as high fees, tax inefficiencies, and poor portfolio allocation. With recent market shifts, these problems may become more noticeable, and it's important to take a step back and evaluate your portfolio. She explains what tax drag is, how capital gains taxes differ from ordinary income tax, and why tax-efficient investing matters.
Whether you're navigating volatile market conditions or just looking to optimize your investment strategy, Megan shares actionable steps to help you assess your current financial position and adjust your approach.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/354
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#353: Pre-Decision Clarity vs. Post-Decision Discipline: Why Honoring Decisions is What Creates Momentum
2026/03/17
Have you ever made a clear decision about your firm, only to find yourself reopening it later when execution becomes uncomfortable? Many law firm owners believe their challenge is making better decisions, but the real issue often shows up after the decision has already been made.
In this episode, Melissa explores the difference between pre-decision clarity and post-decision discipline. Clarity helps you reach a sound decision based on data, reality, and the future you want to build. But discipline is what turns that decision into results. Melissa explains why second guessing decisions drains energy, destabilizes teams, and slows momentum inside your firm.
You will hear why honoring decisions is a leadership skill and how consistent follow through creates stability, trust, and forward progress. If you want to lead your firm with greater confidence and reduce the mental load of constant reconsideration, this episode will help you understand the discipline that turns strategy into reality.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/353
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#352: How the 2025 Trump Tax Bill Changes Impact Law Firm Owners with Megan Robin
2026/03/10
What do the 2025 Trump tax bill changes mean for your law firm? In this episode, tax attorney Megan Robin returns to break down the significant changes in the tax landscape. Megan explains how the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) provisions that have been made permanent and the new rules in tax law will impact law firm owners, both small and large.
They dive into everything from qualified business income (QBI) deductions to new opportunities for deductions on office equipment, and even how tax strategies should adapt for firms in high-tax states. Megan also shares the key strategies law firm owners should consider to take advantage of these changes.
Whether you're trying to save money, plan for growth, or simply understand what these new provisions mean for your bottom line, this episode gives you the expert insight to understand these changes and consider how they might apply to your firm's planning and strategy.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/352
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#351: Goals vs. Rocks: The Foundation of Strategic Planning
2026/03/03
When was the last time you set a real goal with a clear finish line and identified the strategic priorities that would get you there? In this episode, I'm breaking down the difference between goals and rocks and why confusing the two keeps so many law firm owners stuck. This is foundational work, and if you don't have both clearly defined, you're making growth harder than it needs to be.
A goal is binary. You either hit it or you don't. It should be clear, measurable, and often tied to a number so there's no room for interpretation. Rocks are the strategic priorities that move you toward that goal. I'll show you how to set clear goals, choose the right rocks, and approach each quarter with the discipline that builds real momentum inside your firm.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/351
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#350: What Determines Your Law Firm's Value with Michael Di Gennaro
2026/02/24
What actually determines your law firm's value when it's time to sell? In this episode, Melissa continues her conversation with Michael Di Gennaro to unpack how law firm valuation really works and why so many owners misunderstand what drives their sale price.
They explore what increases value beyond the numbers. From clean financial reporting to KPIs, SOPs, marketing systems, and diversified client sources, this episode clarifies what makes a firm easier to transfer and therefore more attractive to buyers. If you want to understand how valuation really works and what influences your sale price long before you list your firm, this conversation will give you a clearer lens.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/350
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#349: What You Need to Know Before Selling Your Law Firm with Michael Di Gennaro
2026/02/17
What do you need to start thinking about before selling your law firm? In this episode, Melissa sits down with Michael Di Gennaro, Chief Strategy Officer at Law Practice Exchange, to discuss the crucial factors law firm owners need to consider before selling their practice. Michael shares key insights on how to prepare for a sale, the importance of having the right advisors, and what makes a law firm attractive to potential buyers.
You'll hear about the value of understanding your firm's worth, how to find the right match in a buyer, and why the sale of a law firm is more than just a financial transaction. If you're thinking about selling your law firm, this episode offers valuable advice on how to approach the process strategically. You'll get a better sense of what steps to take to set yourself up for success when you eventually exit, and why it's important to plan ahead well in advance.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/349
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#348: Hyperfocus That Holds: How to Stay on Track with Your Goals
2026/02/10
What happens after you've already decided what matters, but your attention starts to drift? In this episode, Melissa breaks down why momentum doesn't stall because you're too busy, but because you stop honoring the priorities you already chose. This conversation is about staying locked in long enough to actually finish what you started.
You'll hear why focus is not about working harder or managing time better, but about committing to one result and aligning your daily actions to it. Melissa introduces the idea of hyperfocus at two levels: choosing a clear outcome you're building toward and deliberately reconnecting your day to that outcome. Rather than chasing new plans, this episode shows how honoring the one you already made is what creates real progress.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/348
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#347: Strategic Planning and Leadership for Law Firm Success with Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright
2026/02/03
What does it look like when strategic planning actually turns into execution inside a growing law firm? In this episode, Melissa sits down with Ben Gideon and Jeff Wright of Gideon Asen to unpack how the firm approached planning, follow-through, and leadership decisions over the past year.
You'll hear how their annual planning process and quarterly rocks helped translate long-term goals into concrete action. Melissa, Ben, and Jeff also explore what it takes to scale capacity without losing direction. You'll learn why being deliberate about culture matters as teams grow, how leaders avoid getting pulled into constant reactivity, and what it looks like to keep planning and execution connected as the firm enters its next phase.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/347
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#346: How Vision, Goals, and Team Drove Law Firm Growth with Taylor Asen and Meryl Poulin
2026/01/27
How do you turn ambitious goals into real momentum inside your law firm? In this episode, Melissa sits down with Taylor Asen and Meryl Poulin of Gideon Asen, a medical malpractice and personal injury firm, to explore what it takes to align vision, goals, and leadership decisions during a period of meaningful growth.
You'll hear how clearer goal setting and structured planning helped their firm move toward greater shared direction across the team. Taylor and Meryl explain what changed when they defined a vision the entire firm could understand and commit to, and how leadership choices supported progress in a business where outcomes are not always predictable. The discussion also highlights how the right roles and operational clarity can reshape how a firm functions day-to-day.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/346
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#345: The Biggest Tax Myths Lawyers Believe with Megan Robin (Part 2)
2026/01/20
Most law firm owners have absorbed tax beliefs over time that sound reasonable but quietly work against them. In this episode, Melissa continues her conversation with tax attorney Megan Robin to unpack more of the common misconceptions lawyers hold about taxes and planning. The discussion challenges familiar ideas like treating refunds as a win and assuming effective tax strategy requires show-stopping moves.
The episode ultimately centers on ownership and clarity. Melissa and Megan discuss why strong foundations matter more than clever tactics, how viewing a law firm as an income-producing asset shifts financial decision-making, and what it means to stay actively engaged with money decisions. This conversation offers perspective for law firm owners who want to make informed choices that support long-term growth.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/345
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
#344: Tax Myths Law Firm Owners Believe with Megan Robin
2026/01/13
How much of your tax strategy is actually strategy, and how much is just habit? Many law firm owners unknowingly carry outdated or incomplete tax advice that quietly erodes their income over time. In this episode, Melissa sits down with tax attorney Megan Robin to examine the myths law firm owners often believe about taxes and why those assumptions can be costly if left unchallenged.
The conversation focuses on the difference between compliance and strategy, especially when it comes to the role of CPAs, accountants, and entity structures. Rather than chasing loopholes or copying what other owners are doing, the episode emphasizes the importance of understanding how financial decisions work together over time. The goal is clarity, ownership, and informed decision-making that supports both the business and the life the firm is meant to fund.
Let's talk!
If you are a law firm owner looking to talk with us about partnering on your personal and professional growth, book a short, free, no-pressure call with Melissa here: https://velocitywork.com/calendar
Get full show notes, transcript, and more information here: https://www.velocitywork.com/344
Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@velocitywork
Monday Map / Friday Wrap: https://www.velocitywork.com/monday-map
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Crista-Lawfirm Owner 2022/01/26
Exactly what I needed!
Thank you Malissa for don’t flake on yourself episode. It was exactly what I needed to hear to help push me! Thank you for such great information you ...
vitalej17 2021/11/02
Melissa is the BEST!!!!!!
Over the years I’ve listened to dozens of podcasts for firm owners. And while there are some truly great ones out there, I find myself tuning into thi...
Maine lawyer dude 2021/10/23
One of the meatiest legal podcasts out there
Many podcasts out there are clearly just a surface level reminder to hire the podcaster. These are not. Recent work has shown really increased depth ...
JohnnyTL123456789 2020/11/03
Great show for lawyer entrepreneurs!
Great show with ideas for lawyers who need to grow their firm beyond the current rut. Once you’ve got a running firm, your challenges change and you’l...
Mitch Zoll 2020/09/02
The podcast to help you achieve your goals
There are many reasons to listen to a podcast- to be entertained, to be informed, maybe even to be inspired. This podcast has all three. Melissa Shana...
ErnieAttorney 2020/05/13
Practical, Profound & Powerful
Melissa Shanahan truly and deeply cares about helping solo & small firm lawyers. And just as important, she has profound practical wisdom about how to...
writlaw 2020/05/09
Great information that will make you smile
Melissa provides great information and content and her passion for helping is obvious. Not only will you learn something you’ll come out with a smile
Ryan McKeen 2020/01/04
Melissa Brings So Much Value
If you run a business you should listen to this podcast. Melissa brings so much value. She does so in a way that is kind and insightful. With every ep...
KKW12224 2020/01/03
5 stars
Melissa delivers information that is understandable and actionable. Her warm yet direct approach helps you feel like you are in a one on one coaching ...
ccchr3 2019/09/13
Great experience
Melissa has helped reset our entire mindset on how to grow the business. This podcast is a value add without question. Melissa understand how to...
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