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In Part 2, Dr. Joshua Gebhardt (a licensed marriage and family therapist who specializes in working with mixed-orientation couples) turns the lens inward and shares his own personal story — growing up in a conservative Christian environment, navigating masculinity as a college athlete, entering a mixed-orientation marriage himself, and slowly coming to terms with his gay identity. He reflects on the role of religion, shame, repression, and community expectations, and how those experiences ultimately shaped both his life and his work as a therapist. We also discussed how his own experience of coming out to his wife and ultimately divorcing informs his approach with clients. This is an honest look at untangling who you were taught to be from who you truly are — and how that journey can transform the way you help others do the same. The Gebhardt Group: https://www.thegebhardtgroup.co/home Email Joshua directly: [email protected] Sign up for Dr. Gebhardt’s Group, “Women Navigating Marriages with Gay or Bisexual Men”: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-0jju_kpELwu9HPnwP6LA720NcnkYR7UR3lGRcdedqrWqgg/viewform Support for people in Mixed-Orientation Marriages: HOW (Husbands Out to Wives): https://how-support.org/ GAMMA: https://www.gammasupport.org/ MOR (Mixed-Orientation Marriages) & More: https://www.morandmore.org/ Mixed Orientation Marriage: Pathways to Success (Free E-Book): https://mixedorientation.com/ AlternatePath (for women who have discovered their husbands are bi or gay): https://groups.io/g/AlternatePath (Note: these show notes previously and erroneously mentioned "OurPath", which is not my recommendation and which has been traumatic for people I've spoken to.) More from Rob & Two Bi Guys: Support Two Bi Guys on Patreon! (Bonus content, early access, and more) https://www.patreon.com/robertbrookscohen Two Bi Guys on YouTube: youtube.com/@twobiguys Subscribe to my newsletter (for updates on group coaching and more): https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/newsletter Book a free intro call with me (re: individual coaching): https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call Attend “Fluid Conversations”: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/fluid-conversations Visit my website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ Follow TBG on IG (and message me for direct correspondence): https://www.instagram.com/twobiguys/

We're back! This week I sit down with Dr. Joshua Gebhardt — a licensed marriage and family therapist who specializes in mixed-orientation couples — to explore what really happens when guys come out to their wives as queer. Drawing from his doctoral research and years of clinical experience, Joshua breaks down the most common challenges couples face after disclosure, why shame and panic often dominate the early stages, and how counselors can either help or unintentionally harm these vulnerable relationships. We unpack the most common relationship outcomes (and how to know which is most likely...), the role of sexual identity (bi v. gay v. something else), how couples navigate opening up their relationship (or not), the best and worst therapy models, and what it takes to navigate authenticity, safety, and connection when everything feels at stake. Stay tuned for Part 2, coming next week, where we go deeper into Joshua's personal queer journey. You won't want to miss it. The Gebhardt Group: https://www.thegebhardtgroup.co/home Email Joshua directly: [email protected] Sign up for Dr. Gebhardt’s Group, “Women Navigating Marriages with Gay or Bisexual Men”: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe-0jju_kpELwu9HPnwP6LA720NcnkYR7UR3lGRcdedqrWqgg/viewform Support for people in Mixed-Orientation Marriages: HOW (Husbands Out to Wives): https://how-support.org/ GAMMA: https://www.gammasupport.org/ MOR (Mixed-Orientation Marriages) & More: https://www.morandmore.org/ Mixed Orientation Marriage: Pathways to Success (Free E-Book): https://mixedorientation.com/ AlternatePath (for women who have discovered their husbands are bi or gay): https://groups.io/g/AlternatePath (Note: these show notes previously and erroneously mentioned "OurPath", which is not my recommendation and which has been traumatic for people I've spoken to.) More from Rob & Two Bi Guys: Support Two Bi Guys on Patreon! (Bonus content, early access, and more) https://www.patreon.com/robertbrookscohen Two Bi Guys on YouTube: youtube.com/@twobiguys Subscribe to my newsletter (for updates on group coaching and more): https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/newsletter Book a free intro call with me (re: individual coaching): https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call Attend “Fluid Conversations”: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/fluid-conversations Visit my website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ Follow TBG on IG (and message me for direct correspondence): https://www.instagram.com/twobiguys/

Welcome to Season 10 and the future of Two Bi Guys (By One Bi Guy)! I’m switching things up a bit, and today I’m sharing a couple of explainer videos that I recently posted to YouTube, plus important updates about the pod and my coaching practice. I will continue to interview activists, authors, artists, researchers, coaches, and others with interesting things to share about bisexuality, fluidity, gender, and the relationship spectrum on this platform, but I am also branching out and creating new types of content, and I’m experimenting with cross-pollination. Let me know what you think. If you haven’t yet checked out my YouTube page, I’d love it if you would (link below), and I hope you enjoy today’s explainers! Stay tuned for more interviews and other experiments coming soon. Thanks for being here and helping me get to season 10! Two Bi Guys on YouTube: youtube.com/@twobiguys Subscribe to my newsletter (for updates on group coaching and more): https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/newsletter Book a free intro call with me (re: individual coaching): https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call Attend “Fluid Conversations”: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/fluid-conversations Visit my website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ Follow TBG on IG (and message me for direct correspondence): https://www.instagram.com/twobiguys/

Welcome to the season 9 finale of Two Bi Guys (By One Bi Guy)! My guest is Wade Shepard, founder of a play party called “Bi for Bi”, which takes place quarterly in New York City. We chatted about why he started a party that caters to bisexuality (and specifically offers a venue for bi men to explore openly), what the party is like, and the kinky icebreakers that get things going (human cake anyone?) – plus one of the other parties Wade facilitates, focused on gangbangs, and how sexual fluidity plays a role. We also got into Wade’s queer journey, which he described as easier than most and without much drama, and how his sexuality and masculinity co-exist. Thanks for listening to this season of Two Bi Guys, and stay tuned for more! The cadence and focus of my work is always shifting, but I plan to continue having these conversations and sharing more stories in the very near future – stay tuned. Follow Wade on IG: https://www.instagram.com/the.slutlife Join Hacienda, the club that hosts “Bi for Bi”: https://wearehacienda.com/ Subscribe to Rob’s newsletter: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/newsletter Check out Two Bi Guys on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@twobiguys Free intro call with Rob re: coaching: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call Share your story with me! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSftX6JoZ2CUJ5QVNSxiy0wzMPJiq6Vp3jrWZpXtvGnLQtIHmA/viewform?usp=header

Award-winning sex and gender specialist, sex educator, and now author Laura Clarke joins me to talk about her brand-new book “Step Bi Step: The Ultimate Guide for Bisexual, Pansexual, and Queer Young People”. Written with warmth, humor, and clarity, Laura’s book fills a gap for teens just beginning to explore their sexuality — and offers parents, teachers, and anyone curious a simple, compassionate introduction to bi and other queer identities. We discuss Laura’s own “bisexual teenage montage,” how she discovered and named her attraction, and the internalized biphobia she had to unlearn. She shares why she wanted to create a resource that feels safe, inclusive, and non-patronizing — something she wished she had at 13. We also get into writing for a younger audience, balancing humor with heavy topics like biphobia and representation, and how exploring bisexuality can strengthen relationships rather than threaten them. Whether you’re a teen, a parent, or simply bi-curious at any age, this conversation offers insight, validation, and a reminder to take things one step at a time. Bonus content with Laura on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/robertbrookscohen Sign up for Rob’s newsletter: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/newsletter Sign up for a free intro call with Rob re: individual coaching: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call Buy “Step Bi Step”: https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/more-than-one-a-handbook-for-bi-teens-laura-clarke/7744481?ean=9781805017516 Laura’s Website: https://www.mybodyandyours.com/ Follow Laura on IG: https://www.instagram.com/mybodyandyours Follow Laura on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mybodyandyours

This year marked the 25th year of BFF – and while many people do meet their best friends forever at the bi-annual event, that's not where the acronym comes from ;)  The Bi F*** Fest is a twice-a-year takeover of a resort in Palm Springs by over 250 Bi+ people, and while there IS a lot of fun, sexy playtime, it's the community, openness, and acceptance that keep people coming back. This year marked my second summer BFF, so I conducted a series of short interviews with attendees. They are fascinating. I love this episode. Enjoy! 00:00 – Intro and my experience 07:50 – Charles 11:30 – Steve 15:40 – Josh and Mark 30:00 – Jenni 44:00 – I describe the physical space 49:20 – Don 57:20 – Laura 1:07:00 – B.A. 1:16:15 – Peter Though there's no video of my interviewees on Patreon for this episode, there is a slideshow of photos I took at BFF that plays along with the episode, so you can get a feel for the space and vibe. Your subscription also helps support this podcast and gets you early access and full video episodes for most other episodes: https://www.patreon.com/c/robertbrookscohen Sign up "Fluid Conversation", an ongoing series of guided talks and topic-based discussions: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/fluid-conversations Sign up for a free intro call with Rob re: individual coaching: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call Visit Rob's Website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/

My guest this week is Gabby Kealoha Holt, a queer, native Hawaiian singer/songwriter with a new beautiful song out May 30 titled “May We Heal”. We chatted about her queerness and sexual fluidity growing up, how that intersected with her passion for music (as well as her passion for skateboarding), how her life and career have been affected by meditation and newfound spirituality, and then we got into her new song, how it came about, and how music can help us all heal. Stay tuned to hear the song at the end of the podcast – or go listen now at the links below! 10 minutes of bonus content with Gabby on Patreon (plus early access and full video episodes): https://www.patreon.com/robertbrookscohen “May We Heal” on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/7LnmPfCvwv26OVQSAkxj3M?si=Q3tk8OT0SFuLWICM6kkP_g “May We Heal” on all platforms: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/gabbykealohaholt/may-we-heal-feat-erin-adkisson--the-sacred-sunday-song-circle-shortened-version?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAacYZvVTYHUqunXG6s_7BdugIRhONvhOLh9ktnWpxRZ5yeyETsU1O9NMp7n0eA_aem_EV94hrBXiskns6DhTwICwA Gabby’s Website: https://www.gabbyholt.com/ Support Gabby’s work on GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-gabby-kealoha-holt-bring-medicine-album-to-life Follow Gabby on IG: https://www.instagram.com/gabbyholt/ Follow Gabby on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gabbyholtmusic Sign up "Fluid Conversation", a series of guided talks and topic-based discussions: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/fluid-conversations Rob's Website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ Sign up for a free intro call with Rob re: individual coaching: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call

**Sign up "Fluid Conversation", a series of guided talks and topic-based discussions, beginning May 27, weekly through June 25: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/fluid-conversations Welcome back to the second half of my interview with Clark Nesselrodt! We finished up talking about his book before diving into the spiritual meditation work he facilitates, plus some talk about abundance and the reciprocity of the universe, and finally we chatted about the current political climate, how to engage with it spiritually (and when to tap out and take care of yourself), and what this period of disturbance could transform into. One of my key takeaways is that nothing is ever happening to us -- it is always happening FOR us. This shift in perspective has been so powerful for me recently, and I hope it is healing for you, as well. Stay tuned for more episodes throughout Pride month! 10 minutes of bonus content with Clark (about the spirituality of AI), plus full video episodes, on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/robertbrookscohen Clark's website: https://www.clarknesselrodt.com/ Clark on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@keyofclark Clark on IG: https://www.instagram.com/keyofclark Clark on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KeyofClark Rob's Website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ Sign up for a free intro call with Rob re: individual coaching: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call

Sign up for my discussion series, FLUID CONVERSATIONS: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/fluid-conversations My guest this week is my friend and spiritual guide, Clark Neselrodt -- he's also a coach, meditation facilitator, end-of-life caregiver, and father. We chatted about his unique bisexual journey, how to feel the vibrations and energy of your own queerness and authenticity, the spiritual work he facilitates, how getting in touch with your true self can connect you to divine realms and spirits -- and then we got into a discussion of his forthcoming book, "KINK: Un-crippling Our Secret Selves", how shame operates both on an individual level and in our society, and how the urges and callings of a kink can lead your toward your true life's purpose. If you have no clue what we're talking about in terms of the meditation work that Clark facilitates, feel free to get in touch with me or him to ask! And if you have some idea... you're probably on the right track... Stay tuned for part 2 with Clark next week, plus bonus content on Patreon! Clark's website: https://www.clarknesselrodt.com/ Clark on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@keyofclark Clark on IG: https://www.instagram.com/keyofclark Clark on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KeyofClark Two Bi Guys on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/robertbrookscohen Rob's Website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ Sign up for a free intro call with Rob re: individual coaching: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call

This episode welcomes the return of Mark Cusack, ICF Coach and founder of the support site “Not Defining”, to discuss his new book, Fluid: A Guide For People With Flexible Sexuality. (Finally, someone who can define one of the most commonly-used labels on this show!) We chatted about fluidity, what it means, how it’s shown up in our lives, and why it can be a helpful way to think about the sexuality spectrum – among other spectrums. Don’t miss 17 minutes of bonus content with Mark on Patreon! We chatted about his teenage self, the cultural history of fluidity (fascinating topic), and more: https://www.patreon.com/robertbrookscohen Buy Mark’s book, Fluid: https://uk.jkp.com/products/fluid Mark’s website: https://www.notdefining.com/ NotDefining on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCct1pE5fNVUdIR1aw3wxPew @NotDefining on IG: https://www.instagram.com/notdefining/ Rob’s Website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ Free 25-minute intro call with Rob: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/25-minute-free-intro-call

This week I chatted with Jon McCray Jones and Natalie Moe, organizers of “$luts Party”, a monthly sex-positive rave that centers bi and queer people in the Chicago nightlife scene, and hosts of the Fun with $ex Podcast. We talked about their experiences attending play parties all over the world, how “Two Bi Guys” helped Jon recognize and explore his bisexuality, why they decided to create bi-inclusive and fluid-focused rave and play parties, what those parties are really like, and how that scene promotes self-discovery for individuals as well as new ways of being in relationships. For 20+ minutes of bonus content with Jon & Natalie (on masculinity, consent, the wildest things they've seen at play parties, and more) plus full video and early access to all episodes, subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/robertbrookscohen Sign up for group coaching with Rob: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/group-coaching-community-building Rob’s website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ $luts Party on IG: https://www.instagram.com/slutspartychi $luts Party Linktree (events, tickets, podcast, etc.): https://linktr.ee/slutspartychi Fun with $ex Podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fun-with-sex-podcast/id1742478612 Fun with $ex Podcast on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fwspodcast

My guest this week is Wayne Scott, a writer, psychotherapist, and teacher who recently published a new memoir, “The Maps They Gave Us”, which tells the story of a man and woman who fall in love again on their way to getting a divorce. We chatted about what it was liking knowing you were bisexual during the AIDS crisis, the unique circumstances under which he met and committed to his wife, the role bisexuality played in his marriage, why they came very, VERY close to divorce, why they decided to try opening up their marriage (and how they navigated that), and how this arrangement led to new forms of love, understanding, and partnership. There are 10 minutes of bonus content with Wayne on Patreon, plus full video episodes: www.Patreon.com/RobertBrooksCohen Sign up for group coaching: https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/group-coaching-community-building Order Wayne’s book, “The Maps They Gave Us”: https://blacklawrencepress.com/books/the-maps-they-gave-us-one-marriage-reimagined/ Wayne’s website: https://www.waynescottwrites.com/

Get 45% off the Magic Mind bundle with with my link: https://magicmind.com/biguysJAN #magicmind #mentalwealth #mentalperformance Welcome to Season 9 of Two Bi Guys! I’m trying some new things this season, including a super-sized episode all at once instead of split into two! This week I had the pleasure of chatting with Mike Joseph of the Detoxicity podcast for a crossover episode on mental health, queerness, and psychedelic therapies. You’ll hear Mike’s story about navigating his own queerness as he grew up in the 80s as well as his insightful thoughts on what men really need in our current climate. After that, we discussed Mike’s journey with ketamine as well as my recent plant medicine work. Enjoy! Mike’s website: https://www.mike-joseph.com/ Follow Mike on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikejosephcoaching/ Detoxicity podcast: https://detoxpod.podbean.com/ The Detoxicity episode Rob was on in Dec 2023: https://detoxpod.podbean.com/e/detoxpod-153-robert-brooks-cohen-screenwriterauthor/ Radiolab episode about neuroplasticity: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radiolab/id152249110?i=1000676210394 Rob’s website: https://www.robertbrookscohen.com/ Rob’s Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/robertbrookscohen Free 30-minute coaching session with Rob (extended through end of Feb 2025): https://calendly.com/robertbrookscohen/meeting-with-rob

Time to take a look back at 2024 before we move into the new year! My year was transformative, and I hope 2025 brings you even more peace, progress, and love. This isn't exactly a "best of", because all my guests are the best, but more of a year in review, six clips that are really resonating with me at the moment. Enjoy! Until January 10, take advantage of discount pricing for  one-on-one coaching! I specialize in helping bi, queer, non-monogamous or questioning people navigate challenges surrounding identity and relationships. Learn more and book a free 25-minute intro call at my website: www.robertbrookscohen.com/coaching Stay tuned in 2025 for more episodes of Two Bi Guys (By One Bi Guy) as well as new courses and coaching offerings. Happy new year!

This week features part two of my chat with Aaron Hammersly, filmmaker and production executive at Disney, board member on the LA Bi+ Task Force, and outspoken advocate for the LGBTQ+ community, working especially for more inclusive representation in front of and behind the camera. In this episode, we continued discussing “Bi+ Narratives: A Guide to Authentic Representation in Storytelling”, the first comprehensive guide to portraying bi+ characters in film and television, which Aaron co-authored, diving into dozens of case studies of bi+ representation in the current film & TV landscape (like Schitt’s Creek, Heartstopper, Game of Thrones, Call Me By Your Name, Baby Reindeer, and many more), what they’re doing well, what’s backwards or harmful, what’s missing, and what we’d ideally like to see in the future. We also discussed the “manic pixie bi boy” trend, and finally we went through the guide’s test for creatives to determine if what they’re producing is authentic Bi+ representation. Thanks for listening to season 8 of Two Bi Guys (By One Bi Guy)! We’ll be back in 2025! Get Magic Mind at 50% off with this Black Friday offer, available only through my link until December 6th: https://magicmind.com/biguysbf Follow Aaron on IG: https://www.instagram.com/secretsyrin/ The Bi+ Narratives Guide: https://www.rewritethebiline.com/bi-test “Manic Pixie Bi Boys”: https://www.queermajority.com/essays-all/the-manic-pixie-bi-boys