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Debt-to-income ratio is the number everyone in mortgage lending uses, and it's still one of the easiest things to get wrong on a seller finance deal. A borrower at 60% DTI can be a safer bet than one at 50%. In this episode I walk through what DTI actually measures, how I calculate it, and how to use it alongside the other factors that tell you whether a borrower can really carry the loan.   I cover the formula (new PITI plus the monthly debts on the credit report, divided by gross income, never take-home pay), where the income number comes from for W-2, self-employed and fixed-income borrowers, and the expense ratios I apply to self-employed bank statement deposits. I also get into where DTI fits in Dodd-Frank ability to repay, why the 3-loans-a-year rule has nothing to do with it, and why we use 57% as a compliance anchor even though I don't want to lend anywhere near that with my own money.   Then residual income and compensating factors: down payment, cash reserves, housing payment history, job stability, and what to do when a borrower is marginal, including cosigners that actually reduce risk, paying off a car or a card to bring DTI into line, and using a lease option to give them time to clean things up.   Why you always use gross income, not take-home How self-employed and fixed-income borrowers get their income number The 57% compliance anchor vs. the DTI you should actually lend at Why residual income matters more than the ratio for fixed-income borrowers The compensating factors and levers that save a marginal deal Why barely compliant can still be a bad loan   Note training: www.notelaunchpad.com Note buying: www.fusionnotes.com Note origination and underwriting: www.calltheunderwriter.com Mortgage broker / DSCR servicers in TX, SC, FL and CO: www.callthemortgageguy.com

Seller finance compliance is simple once you know the rules, but it's convoluted while you're figuring it out. That gap is where a lot of bad advice gets passed around at meetups and REIAs. In this episode I run down eight myths I hear constantly from investors doing owner-financed deals. I cover why consumer rules like Dodd-Frank and TRID still apply to seller finance, why a borrower agreeing to illegal terms doesn't make them legal, and why a deed in lieu signed at closing won't let you skip foreclosure. I also get into why a sketchy borrower is never worth rushing for, why titling in an LLC doesn't get around owner-occupant rules, and why Dodd-Frank compliance is the floor for underwriting, not the finish line. Finally, balloons. I explain why they set owner-occupant borrowers up to fail, and why a well-underwritten loan gives you what I call the anytime balloon: the ability to sell the note and get liquid whenever you want. Which consumer rules apply to seller finance and when the carve-outs actually kick in Why deed in lieu at closing is a trap, not a shortcut The seller finance gap between Dodd-Frank minimums and bank standards Why balloons don't belong on owner-occupied loans How compliant, well-underwritten notes stay liquid in today's non-QM market Note training: www.notelaunchpad.com Note buying: www.fusionnotes.com Note origination and underwriting: www.calltheunderwriter.com Mortgage broker / DSCR servicers in TX, SC, FL and CO: www.callthemortgageguy.com

Banks have underwriting departments, compliance teams, and doc prep staff. When you originate a seller finance loan, all of those jobs still have to get done. You just do not have anyone doing them. I talk through which back office functions you can rent, how to charge the borrower for them, and why the loans people rush through are the ones they can never sell. Note training: www.notelaunchpad.com Note buying: www.fusionnotes.com Note origination and underwriting: www.calltheunderwriter.com Mortgage broker / DSCR servicers in TX, FL and CO: www.callthemortgageguy.com

If I were starting over as a note investor today, this is the approach I'd take. I walk through the entire process—from getting training and finding deals to defining your goals, filtering and pricing loans, completing due diligence, and closing your first deal. I also cover common mistakes that keep new investors stuck and how to build a repeatable process that improves with every loan you buy. Note training: www.notelaunchpad.com  Note buying: www.fusionnotes.com  Note origination and underwriting: www.calltheunderwriter.com  Mortgage broker / DSCR servicers in TX, FL and CO: www.callthemortgageguy.com

Most seller finance borrowers are self-employed, and that's where a lot of originators get tripped up. In this episode I walk through how we actually verify self-employed income at Call The Underwriter, why it matters for Dodd-Frank compliance and your own protection, and the system we use to get through it fast. I cover why W-2 and fixed-income borrowers are easy, why tax returns usually understate self-employed income, and why 12 complete business bank statements are the workhorse document. I also get into the expense ratio approach for turning gross deposits into usable income, the account and commingling problems we run into constantly, and what borrower behavior tells you before you ever see the file. Plus the story of a loan with a mystery dog kennel that supposedly made $30k in a single month. If you originate or buy seller finance notes, this one will clear up a lot of confusion around documenting income that doesn't come with a pay stub. Questions? Drop them in the comments or email dan at calltheunderwriter.com. For more info on underwriting seller finance loans or get started on a deal go to www.calltheunderwriter.com

Dan sits down with Philip Louden — former backpacker, digital nomad, and reluctant wholesaler — who found his calling in seller finance after realizing he was just "dropshipping houses." After a 30-year Kansas City mentor showed him the power of creative finance, Philip went on to originate over 70 deals and build the Wrap Academy community around a simple philosophy: prosperous, peaceful, passive portfolios. In this episode, they cover: Why Philip walked away from a wholesaling operation doing 6 deals a month — and what it taught him about building businesses you actually want to live in How he structures 10-year lease options, wraps, and slow flips — and when each one makes sense The slow flip model: buying $20–30K properties in small markets and seller financing them to buyers who can't even rent for that price Finding buyers through unconventional channels (including a $75K down payment from Craigslist) Dan's note buying box — from 10-11% IRA-quality performers to 30-40% non-performing workouts — and how hypothecation creates spread Why the seller finance note market has a supply-demand equation you won't find anywhere else in real estate Connect with Philip: Wrap Academy: https://wrapacademy.net/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phil_louden/?hl=en LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-louden   Call The Underwriter Call The Underwriting prescreening guide: https://calltheunderwriter.com/prescreen/ Call The Underwriter Register for the weekly Call The Underwriter onboarding call, every Thursday at 12 ET

In this episode of the Seller Finance and Creative Deals Podcast, Dan Deppen breaks down partials, one of the most talked about but least understood tools in note investing. Dan explains what a partial actually is (selling a defined chunk of future loan payments at a set rate of return), walks through a real numbers example on a $30K land contract, and covers why partials can be a win for both sides of the deal.   Topics covered include why partials only work on performing loans, how sellers use them to recapitalize and scale without giving up the entire note, why buyers like the lower risk of front-end payments and the ability to get exposure to note investing with less capital, how to find partial buyers through your network rather than open marketplaces, typical interest rates sellers offer buyers, key structural decisions like who holds servicing and whether to sell full or fractional payments, and how defaults are typically handled when a partial is in place. Dan also shares an update on his Oklahoma City note portfolio acquisition and the current Note Accelerator cohort. Want to learn more about note investing, seller finance, or creative real estate deals? Check out Fusion Notes for coaching and courses, (www.fusionnotes.com) and Call The Underwriter (www.calltheunderwriter.com,) for flat-fee seller finance compliance and origination help. Note buying: www.fusionnotes.com Note origination and underwriting: www.calltheunderwriter.com Mortgage broker / DSCR servicers in TX, FL and CO: www.callthemortgageguy.com

In the latest episode, Dan covers: ✅ How to structure your listing language to attract qualified buyers from the start ("seller financing available for deserving borrowers with a large down payment" works wonders) ✅ The best DIY platforms for finding seller finance buyers — Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist are still producing results ✅ How to find a great REO-specialist agent, even in markets you've never worked before ✅ Why pre-screening takes just 5-10 minutes and filters out 95%+ of problem borrowers before you go under contract ✅ A real deal breakdown: Dan's own recent Michigan REO — listed, 6 offers received, and closed in about two weeks with an 18% down payment and a 677 FICO borrower Dan also shares updates from his note portfolio, including a messy Wisconsin bankruptcy situation, a high-stakes California non-performing note, and news about the latest Note Accelerator cohort. This episode is a must-listen if you've ever found yourself stuck with a bad borrower — or if you want to make sure you never do. Call The Underwriting prescreening guide: https://calltheunderwriter.com/prescreen/ Call The Underwriter Register for the weekly Call The Underwriter onboarding call, every Thursday at 12 ET

Fred and Tracy Rewey share their 2025 seller financing market data With $29.5 billion in new notes created and home sales at a 30-year low, the big story is resilience. They cover LTV trends, top states, the mom-and-pop vs. professional note creator breakdown, the impact of ITIN lending changes, and their outlook for 2026. Get the seller finance report: https://noteinvestor.com/notes-101/seller-financing-2025-industry-report/ Call The Underwriter Register for the weekly Call The Underwriter onboarding call, every Thursday at 12 ET

In this episode, Dan Deppen breaks down the biggest takeaways from the 2026 Squad Up Summit—one of the largest real estate investing conferences in the country. With over 2,700 attendees and insights from top entrepreneurs, this recap covers what's actually working right now in creative finance and real estate investing. You'll learn how investors are adapting to changing market conditions, where new opportunities are emerging, and how tools like AI are beginning to transform underwriting, operations, and deal flow. Dan also shares real-world insights from his own business, including scaling Call The Underwriter, buying notes, and evaluating new opportunities like tax overages. What You'll Learn: How to adapt your investing strategy to shifting market conditions The rise of AI agents in real estate and underwriting Why non-QM lending and seller finance are growing What tax overages are and how investors are monetizing them Key business principles: lead generation, underwriting, funding, management, and scaling Hiring lessons and how to avoid costly team mistakes Why some strategies (like Airbnb) are struggling—and what's replacing them Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro & overview of Squad Up Summit 02:00 – Key speakers and major themes 04:00 – AI in real estate (agents, automation, bookkeeping) 07:00 – Building scalable systems (including CTU chatbot) 08:30 – Tax overages explained (real example) 14:00 – Emerging strategies: RV parks, co-living, affordability 15:00 – The 5-step framework for building a real estate business 17:00 – Adapting to market conditions (non-QM, seller finance) 18:30 – Investor mindset mistakes (self-imposed limits) 20:00 – Hiring and scaling lessons 22:00 – Final takeaways & current deals   Call The Underwriter Register for the weekly Call The Underwriter onboarding call, every Thursday at 12 ET

In this episode of the Seller Finance and Creative Deals Podcast, Dan Deppen shares additional seller finance mistakes that didn't make the cut in his Cash Flow Expo session. He breaks down why "loose standards" and trying to be overly accommodating can backfire for both lender and borrower, how to work with an RMLO the right way (and why you don't want them telling you what you want to hear), and the red flags that show up when borrowers stall on documentation. Dan also explains why "no money in the deal" is fine—until you have no reserves—and why professional operators prioritize borrower quality, process discipline, and risk management.   Register for Cash Flow Expo, Feb 5-7 Note Accelerator, starts mid Febrary Call The Underwriter Register for the weekly Call The Underwriter onboarding call, every Thursday at 12 ET

Dan and Steve discussed the launch of "Call the Mortgage Guy," an extension of "Call the Underwriter" that focuses on non-QM loans. Steve explained that non-QM loans cater to borrowers who don't meet traditional mortgage criteria, such as self-employed individuals and those with non-traditional income, similar to seller finance borrowers. Dan noted the growing popularity of non-QM loans, which have increased from 1-2% to over 8% of the mortgage market in the last 2 years, as lenders target underserved markets. The expansion into mortgage brokering, enabled by mortgage licensing in states like Colorado, Texas, and Florida, aims to address this growing demand. For more info on underwriting seller finance loans or get started on a deal go to www.calltheunderwriter.com For for non-QM loans in TX, FL and CO go to www.callthemortgageguy.com

In this episode of the Seller Finance and Creative Deals Podcast, Dan Deppen sits down with Caleb Christopher (CreativeTC) to unpack what actually goes wrong in creative finance deals—and how to structure transactions to avoid the most common (and most expensive) mistakes. They dig into a critical contract issue many investors miss: once you sign an agreement as the seller, you may not have a clean way out unless you've written in a seller exit clause tied to borrower qualifications. Dan and Caleb explain how to define those qualification standards upfront, why it matters for Dodd-Frank and "bank-grade" underwriting, and how skipping the right steps can turn a quick exit into a foreclosure-length nightmare. You'll also hear a practical discussion on: The real-world risk of due-on-sale in sub-to and wrap deals (and what you can do when it surfaces) Why "bank-quality" seller finance notes can sell near par—and why that matters The hidden problems with self-servicing and poor payment records Smarter liquidity strategies than balloons, including selling note partials If you're doing seller finance, wraps, or subject-to—and you want fewer surprises and more scalable outcomes—this episode is your playbook.   Connect with Caleb:  Creative TC - https://creativetc.io/ Caleb's Instagram - / fcalebchristopher For more info on underwriting seller finance loans or get started on a deal go to www.calltheunderwriter.com.

In this episode of the Seller Finance and Creative Deals podcast, Dan Deppen sits down with Jamie Bateman of Labrador Lending to talk all things mortgage note investing. Jamie shares how he transitioned from rentals and a background in title and mortgage into buying first-lien notes across the country, eventually building a note fund and team to serve investors. He breaks down how he thinks about geography, foreclosure timelines, and the biggest real risk in notes—what you don't know about the interior of the property. Jamie explains how Labrador now serves three types of investors—passive, hybrid, and active—through their income fund, done-for-you asset management service, and one-on-one mentorship plus community. They also dive into the niche of HUD HECM (reverse mortgage) deals as a pre-REO play, why deal flow has shifted since the 2010s, and how both Jamie and Dan are pivoting strategies, including Dan's approach of buying "broken" seller-finance notes and cleaning them up for institutional demand. This episode is a great fit if you're looking for ways to scale, simplify, or reposition your note investing in today's market. Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/  Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? COMPREHENSIVE NOTE BUYING COURSE: https://www.notelaunchpad.com   Connect with Labrador Lending Website: www.adversity2abundance.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/labradorlending/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/labradorlendingllc/ LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/labrador-lending/?viewAsMember=true Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChYrpCUlqFYLy4HngRrmU9Q 3 Core Services Integrity Income Fund: labradorlending.com/passive-investors Asset Management Service: labradorlending.com/hybrid-investors Labrador Mentorship: labradorlending.com/investors/active-investors   Connect with Jamie LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-bateman-5359a811/ Twitter: twitter.com/batemanjames

Mark Monroe—30-year investor and author of Creative Real Estate Investing—joins Dan to unpack the real mechanics of seller financing: when to use wraps vs. lease options, why performance deeds can backfire, and how to keep Subject-To ethical (and legal). Mark shares how he sources true win-win deals (including hospice-driven leads), structures low- or zero-down offers, and automates collections with servicers and VAs. They also dig into predatory tactics used by some investors, Dodd-Frank/S.A.F.E./RESPA realities for owner-occupants, and why compliance and underwriting protect both the borrower and your business.   Connect with Mark: https://mark-monroe.com/ Join Mark's 180K+ member Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/395240491763831 Want to create your own seller-financed notes? MAKE SURE YOUR NOTES ARE SELLABLE, VALUABLE, AND COMPLIANT: https://calltheunderwriter.com/  Are you Ready to work with Dan to learn how to invest in notes yourself? COMPREHENSIVE NOTE BUYING COURSE: https://www.notelaunchpad.com