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In this episode, Phyllis E. Leavitt returns to OTR. She’s a psychotherapist with over 30 years of experience working with trauma, family dysfunction, and abuse, Phyllis brings decades of clinical expertise and personal insight to explain why America is facing a national mental health crisis, and why the same principles that heal families can also help heal a divided country. Her book, America in Therapy, offers a path toward hope, healing, and connection at a time when so many people are struggling. We use the philosophy behind the Statements of Humanity, already posted in the Public Square on our community site, as a starting point for the conversation. We do not explain or analyze the Statements in detail; they simply serve as the shared foundation for the discussion. From that foundation, Phyllis expands on her vision of a better world. She speaks with hope, but it is hope grounded in real clinical experience rather than wishful thinking. She has seen people heal. She has seen families repair broken relationships. She has witnessed what can happen when empathy, accountability, and genuine listening take root. This subject is deeply important to me because it reflects the message I hope to bring through this podcast, especially at a time when so many people are struggling with their mental health. America, and in many ways the world, needs healing if we are to remain a healthy and civilized culture. Division, tribalism, and an unwillingness to listen have fractured communities, friendships, and even families. We do not have to agree on everything, but we do need to listen to one another with respect and understanding rather than respond with anger and hate. Phyllis' sites: Official Webpage: https://phyllisleavitt.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/phyllis.leavitt Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phyllis_e_leavitt/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PhyllisLeavitt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-leavitt-630179255/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOdxqvDK9N421AZ5TTxqUgQ OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Blog: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Statements of Humanity is a collection of declarations that confront the internal family scripts we absorb in childhood and the external family scripts we’re expected to perform in adulthood. Internal scripts shape how we see ourselves — the roles we were assigned, the beliefs we inherited, the emotional rules we learned without ever choosing them. External scripts dictate how we’re supposed to act in the world — who we protect, who we obey, what we silence, and what we sacrifice to keep the family system stable. These scripts are powerful, often invisible, and passed down through generations. Most people follow them automatically, even when they cause harm. Statements of Humanity interrupts those inherited patterns. Each statement offers a new script — one grounded in dignity, safety, curiosity, and connection. Instead of repeating the old roles (the fixer, the quiet one, the strong one, the scapegoat, the peacekeeper), these statements create a language for choosing humanity over harm. They replace obedience with agency, punishment with understanding, and emotional isolation with relational integrity. This project is a framework for rewriting how we treat ourselves and each other. Not the family scripts we were handed — the human scripts we choose. Statements of Humanity Read full list on the Public Square Recommended Reading: Healing the Shame that Binds You on Amazon OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Blog: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Dr. Thomas Attig, PhD is one of the most influential voices in contemporary grief theory and applied philosophy. He is the author of Seeking Wisdom in Death's Shadows: Collected Writings on How We Grieve published by Oxford University Press. Also, The Heart of Grief: Death and the Search for Lasting Love and How We Grieve: Relearning the World, also published by Oxford University Press. His work centers on the idea that grieving is an active, choice‑filled process — a relearning of how to be in the world after loss. s. Attig has written extensively on grief, loss, care of the dying, suicide intervention, death education, and the ethics of interactions with the dying. He is a past President of the Association for Death Education and Counseling and has delivered keynote talks and workshops across the U.S., Canada, England, Australia, Israel, and Germany. He taught philosophy at Bowling Green State University for nearly 25 years, serving as department chair and helping establish the world’s first Ph.D. program in Applied Philosophy. Since 1995, he has worked independently as an applied philosopher, writer, and speaker. Attig’s central theme: grief is not about letting go — it’s about learning to love in separation, carrying forward the legacies of those we mourn while rebuilding our lives. He currently lives in Victoria, British Columbia, where he continues writing, teaching, and speaking. Dr. Thomas Attig's Sites: Website: https://www.griefsheart.com/links.php Books: Seeking Wisdom in Death's Shadows: Collected Writings on How We Grieve AT https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=Seeking+Wisdom+in+Death%27s+Shadows&cc=us&lang=en 30 % Discount on book with Promotion Code: "aufly30" on left side of checkout screen Look for all his work at https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=+Thomas+Attig&cc=us&lang=en or other fine book stores (Amazon and others in home website above). OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Blog: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Mark Michaels doesn’t enter life quietly — he arrives through a literal test tube birth, grows up with a brain wired for rebellion, and finds his voice in the raw electricity of punk rock. In this conversation, he opens the door to the parts of his story most people never hear: the science experiment origin, the years of feeling like an outsider, the bands that shaped his worldview, and the therapy that finally helped him stitch all those jagged edges into something whole. This episode is loud, honest, and human. Mark talks about how punk gave him a language for anger and identity, how therapy gave him tools to survive the fallout, and how he’s learned to live with the strange mix of biology and chaos that made him who he is. It’s part origin story, part emotional excavation, part celebration of the misfits who find their way anyway. Mark Michaels's Sites Website: https://markamichaels.com/ Publication: Binaries, Multitudes, and Beyond: A Client-Authored Case Study in Psychedelic-Assisted Therapy, Artificial Intelligence, and Narrative Agency - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6317678 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mark.a.michaels Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markamichaels/ Researchgate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mark-Michaels OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Blog: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

In this episode, Jon Edlin walks us through the night an EF3 tornado tore his Nashville home apart in six seconds while he and his family sheltered in a hallway — the only part of the house left standing. He describes the moment of impact, the shock that followed, and the long months of PTSD symptoms that reshaped his daily life. Jon explains how trauma lived in his body long after the storm passed: waking every night at the exact minute the tornado hit, freezing during weather alerts, losing the ability to work, and reliving the event in vivid detail. He talks about the turning point — discovering EMDR therapy — and how eight sessions helped him process the memory, release the physical symptoms, and regain control of his life. Jon also shares how he turned the experience into purpose. After speaking publicly about the tornado, he realized how many people had no idea what to do in a severe weather emergency. That led him to write The Tornado Survival Guide and eventually launch TornadoSmart, a company that provides pre‑built tornado go‑bags, safety education, and practical training for families who want to be prepared before a storm hits. It’s a grounded, honest conversation about survival, memory, recovery, and the work of turning trauma into something that helps others. Jon Edlin's Sites Website: https://tornadosmart.com/ Mail: [email protected] Book: Edlin Tornado Survival Guide Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=jon%20edlin%20tornado%20shelters YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@edlintornadosolutions OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Blog: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

⚠️ Content Warning: This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence and trauma that may be triggering for listeners with PTSD or related experiences. Listener discretion is strongly advised. This is the conclusion of the story of Andrew Mclean who spent 18 years as a police constable with the Waterloo Regional Police Service, after starting his career as a news reporter. He served three years as a Detective in the General Investigations Unit, leading major cases involving shootings, stabbings, armed robberies, and gang‑related violence. On front‑line patrol, he stepped into the role of acting Sergeant and coached new recruits entering the job he once loved. In May 2021, the weight of everything he had seen — and everything he had carried alone — finally broke through. Andrew was diagnosed with Post‑Traumatic Stress Disorder and has been off duty since. During that time, he wrote a book about his descent into PTSD and the long climb back, becoming an advocate for emergency‑service mental health and the people who are still silently drowning inside the uniform. If you heard Part 1, you know Andrew’s story began with a collapse — a moment where the job, the pressure, and the untreated PTSD finally broke through. But the break isn’t the whole story. Part 2 is about the climb back. This is where we look at the recovery, the counseling, the medication, and the support he finally received and also the parts of the system that tried to smooth it over. Because whitewashing doesn’t happen in the crisis — it happens in the cleanup. It happens when institutions try to make the story look cleaner than it really was. Andrew Lorne McLean Website: beaten-black-and-blue.com/beaten-black-blue Book: https://www.amazon.ca/Beaten-Black-Blue-Journey-Light-ebook/dp/B0F5BMPPN3 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/andrew.mclean.90410 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beaten_black_and_blue_book OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Blog: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

This episode is NOT about Binge‑Eating DIsorder(BED). But still falls into the mental health category and is important to talk about; It’s that everyday moment where one small bite turns into too much. Our guest Nan — short for Nadège Saysana — is a coach who helps women stop binge(or over) eating most commonly occurring after dinner. Her work is simple, kind, and grounded in emotional skill, not restriction. Her specialty is women weightlifters since that is her roots, but she helps anyone in need. Nan binge ate for 30 years. She looked disciplined on the outside but felt out of control at night, especially after the house was quiet and the day was done. “Just one bite” became the whole box. She believed she lacked discipline. Everything changed when she learned binge eating wasn’t about food — it was about stress, emotions, and the moments before the binge. As she learned to respond differently, the urges weakened, then faded. Today she teaches women how to understand why binges happen. How to build self‑trust instead of control. How to stop at enough and feel done. She teaches women weightlifters how to feel as strong with food as they are in the gym Nan lives in Paris with her family, lifts weights, reads, walks, and watches The Big Bang Theory. At 50 she became a bodybuilder and lost three dress sizes. Her 106‑year‑old grandmother is her daily reminder of why strength matters. Nan works with women who are strong and consistent in the gym but feel out of control with food at night. They train hard, eat well all day, and look disciplined from the outside. Then evening comes, the house gets quiet, and “just one bite” turns into the whole box. Nan knows that world because she lived it for 30 years. She started binge eating at 16, right after her first diet. She lost weight fast, thought she had fixed herself, and then gained it all back. For decades she lived in the cycle so many people know: disciplined all day, out of control at night, always promising to start over tomorrow. Most of her binges happened after dinner. Kids asleep. Kitchen light on. The moment when the day’s pressure finally hits. She believed she lacked discipline. This is a gentle, honest conversation about nighttime eating, emotional coping, and the skills no one teaches us. Shirt campaign closes this week: https://www.bonfire.com/otr-universe160/ Nadège Saysana Sites: Website: https://www.milobingefix.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nadege.saysana1/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nan.saysana.coaching/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@nadegesaysanacoaching LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nan-saysana/ OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Blog: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ cFl3Y9PWx8YzKTH9xQhT This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

⚠️ Content Warning: This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence and trauma that may be triggering for listeners with PTSD or related experiences. Listener discretion is strongly advised. Andrew spent 18 years as a police constable with the Waterloo Regional Police Service, after starting his career as a news reporter. He served three years as a Detective in the General Investigations Unit, leading major cases involving shootings, stabbings, armed robberies, and gang‑related violence. On front‑line patrol, he stepped into the role of acting Sergeant and coached new recruits entering the job he once loved. In May 2021, the weight of everything he had seen — and everything he had carried alone — finally broke through. Andrew was diagnosed with Post‑Traumatic Stress Disorder and has been off duty since. During that time, he wrote a book about his descent into PTSD and the long climb back, becoming an advocate for emergency‑service mental health and the people who are still silently drowning inside the uniform. This conversation isn’t polished. It isn’t rehearsed. It’s Andrew telling the truth as he lived it — the moments that shaped him, the ones that scarred him, and the ones he’s still trying to understand. This episode is part 1 of 2. This part covers Andrew speaking to what contributed to his unset of complex PTSD and finally his collapse. Part 2 will be published the last part of June and will chronicle his road to recovery. We need to improve the process. PTSD effects a large part of the population between the inflicted and there love ones. It also has a effect on the recruitment of the hero's - the first responders. Andrew Lorne McLean Website: beaten-black-and-blue.com/beaten-black-blue Book: https://www.amazon.ca/Beaten-Black-Blue-Journey-Light-ebook/dp/B0F5BMPPN3 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/andrew.mclean.90410 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beaten_black_and_blue_book OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Blog: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Special announcements Coming in May a new voice in the OTR UniverseOTR Universe Blog is here, start at: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ Today’s guest is someone whose story reaches into the deepest places of grief and still finds a way to breathe life back into the room. Her name is Marcia Earhart — founder of The Sterling Rose Sanctuary, grief and trauma responder, HeartSync minister, mediator, author, speaker, and a woman whose faith has carried her through losses most of us can’t imagine. Marcia has lived through the deaths of two sons — one to sudden tragedy, and one to murder — and somehow, through all of it, she learned how to keep breathing, keep moving, and keep living. Not by erasing the pain, but by walking with it. Her book, Gripping Grace in the Garden of Grief, is a raw and honest look at what happens when life breaks you open… and what it takes to stand back up. She works with people carrying trauma, loss, depression, anxiety, addiction, and the kind of sorrow that sits in the bones. Not as a distant expert, but as someone who has been there — someone who knows what it means to fight for your mind, your family, and your faith. Today, we’re talking about grief, resilience, the brain, the heart, and what it really means to heal. This is not a conversation about ‘getting over it.’ This is a conversation about learning to breathe again, move again, and live again — even when the world has gone dark. This is Grieve Work. And this is Marcia Earhart. Marcia Earhart Website: https://www.thesterlingrosesanctuary.us/meet-marcia Book: https://www.thesterlingrosesanctuary.us/gripping-grace-in-the-garden-of-grief Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TSRS21/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesterlingrosesanctuary/?hl=en YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCinV--gh_jy1OdeiS4XmoYA?view_as=subscriber OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Special announcement OTR Universe Blog is here, start at: https://realplus.bearblog.dev/otr-lies-from-the-tablecloth/ **Today’s guest is Dr. Tony Iezzi — a clinical psychologist with more than 35 years on the front lines of trauma, chronic pain, and the behavior loops that keep people repeating the past. He’s the co‑author of *Reenactments: Break the Behavior Patterns That Keep You Stuck in Trauma, Stress, and Everyday Life*, a book that blends science, clinical clarity, and real‑world insight into why we do what we do — even when we don’t want to.** In this conversation, Dr. Iezzi breaks down the unconscious reenactment patterns that show up in everyday life: the habits we repeat, the reactions that feel too big for the moment, and the emotional echoes that follow us from childhood into boardrooms, relationships, and Tuesday afternoons. If you’ve ever wondered why you keep ending up in the same situations — or why certain moments hit harder than they should — this episode gives you the framework to finally understand it. **Dr. Tony Iezzi doesn’t just explain trauma. He explains the architecture underneath it — and how to break the loop.** Dr. Tony Iezzi Sites: Website: https://tonyiezzi.com/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Reenactments-Behavior-Patterns-Trauma-Everyday-ebook Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Breaking-Reenactments/61577256044969/ OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Warning: Please be advised that this episode has adult content about young child abuse and an account of attempted suicide. This may contain triggers for some. Matthew F. Stevens, CCTRP, is our guest in this episode. He is the host of EQ Unlocked Podcast on Emotional Intelligence and Nervous System Informed Growth. Matthew and I went through several recovery subjects which included Matts terrible abuse and his other losses, fears, grief and abandonment issues. And I once again got on my high horse. Throughout the show the two of us really connected. Don't miss his techniques to lessen anxiety and other processes of the nervous system in the last part of the show. Matthew goes over the his emotional regulation systems. He builds emotional regulation systems that reduce stress, prevent escalation, and support clear, integrity-based decision-making—through practical systems including Operational Regulation Systems (ORS™), Neuro Advanced Learning Systems (NALS™), and EQ Unlocked. Check out his website in the links below. Matthew is a survivor of many different traumas and challenges, He worked with kids mentoring youth for 20 years as a business owner , who had a loving family and great hopes for the future. He eventually lost everything piece by piece. This episode covers the difficult family history, the kind that leaves marks. It’s a steady, grounded talk with real weight under it. Clean audio, Its a little longer than usual but it moves quickly. Matthew Stevens Sites: Website: https://matthewfstevens.com/ Podcast: EQ Unlocked: https://eq.matthewfstevens.com Find your regulation baseline: https://matthewfstevens.com/emotional-regulation-baseline/ OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Lindsay Stadel is a wife, mother, grandmother, and accomplished entrepreneur who leads four successful companies: Stadel Farms, Inc., S & S Harvesting, LLC, Flinthills Transport, LLC, and TLS Logistics, LLC. Her commitment to mental health advocacy is rooted in personal experience with suicide loss and her own journey through mental health challenges. As an award‑winning author, she uses her writing and her voice to confront stigma and support those struggling with suicidal thoughts. Lindsay is now expanding her work into public speaking to help organizations address mental health with honesty, compassion, and hope. Lindsey’s story isn’t polished or dramatic; it’s the story of someone who kept going when stopping felt easier. This isn’t a lecture, and it isn’t a slogan. It’s a conversation about what survival actually looks like when you’re in the middle of the fire and can’t see anything past the pain. It’s about the part of you that hasn’t had the chance to exist yet — the part that comes after the collapse, after the shame, after the silence. The phoenix doesn’t rise because it’s strong. It rises because it isn’t done. Audio note: This episode was recorded in November, during a stretch when I was still recovering from throat surgery and dealing with some Windows‑side recording issues. You may hear a few rough spots because of that. The next episode, with Matthew Stevens, is the first one using the improved chain and the upgraded studio sound. Lindsay Stadel's Sites: Website: Lindsay Stadel's Website Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lindsay.a.coltharp?mibextid=ZbWKwL YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@LindsayStadel Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lindsaycoltharp79?igsh=czBham40cXo0Y3V2 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindsay-stadel-a70ab2299/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lindsaystadel?_t=ZT-8t7gKrgl3yI&_r=1 OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Most dyslexic professionals grow up believing they’re behind. Coach Willie Blake knows that story from the inside. Diagnosed in first grade, he spent years trying to hide, trying to catch up, and trying to be someone he wasn’t. Eventually, he made a different choice — if he was going to live with dyslexia, he was going to lead with it. Today, Willie is the go‑to high‑performance coach for dyslexic entrepreneurs, creators, and career professionals who are ready to trade self‑doubt for confidence and overthinking for clarity. Through simple, practical frameworks like the 2% Rule and the GPS Goal Method, he helps people take real action even when they’ve felt “behind” their whole life. In this conversation, Willie brings the same mix of heart, humor, and lived experience that’s made him a dynamic speaker on 500+ stages and the host of Light Beyond Limits. We talk about identity, momentum, and what actually helps dyslexic minds move forward. If you’ve ever felt different, stuck, or underestimated — this one will hit home. Willie Blake's Sites: Website: Willie Blake's Website Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WillieBlake.Light/ YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DyslexicAchieversHub Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/willieblake_light/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willieblake-light/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@willieblake_light OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

Season XI Premiere — Welcome to OTR Universe Today marks the start of Season XI of OTR – Achieving Mental Health for Real, and the beginning of something larger: the official launch of OTR Universe. OTR Universe is more than a podcast. It’s a connected space built for people who want honesty, clarity, and a real path home to a different kind of life. At the center of this expansion is Public Square — a new community where listeners can find validation, share experiences, and gather information from the program and from each other. For anyone not ready to step into the open, the home site offers a fully anonymous posting option that collects zero personal information: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Submitting an anonymous post at the site above’s Menu item ‘anon post” reveals a password that unlocks a link in the Public Square area, where all current and future benefits will live. Everything remains totally free for at least a full year as new features roll out across 2026. In March, expect the launch of a new blog and a major upgrade in sound quality. And now, the premiere. Featuring Hollywood Composer Chris Boardman This episode features the extraordinary Hollywood composer and orchestrator Chris Boardman — a man whose résumé spans some of the biggest films of the last half‑century, including The Color Purple, Die Hard, and Payback. Despite a career filled with accolades, Chris chose OTR as the place to speak openly about his long fight for mental health. Highlights from his career Six Emmy Awards and 13 nominations for television composition and arrangingAcademy Award nomination for orchestration on The Color PurpleMajor credits across film, television, and records in drama, comedy, animation, and live performanceTrusted collaborator to Quincy Jones, David Foster, Barbra Streisand, Marvin Hamlisch, Julie Andrews, Shirley MacLaine, and many morePlatinum‑selling arranger and orchestrator on multiple charting albumsMember of the jazz group Wishful Thinking, reflecting his roots as a keyboardist and improviser Inside the Industry Chris became the person studios called when they needed elegance, complexity, or a musical problem solved fast. Few musicians can move between orchestral, jazz, pop, Broadway, and film score work with the same clarity and emotional precision. This is a premiere you don’t want to miss. Step into OTR Universe, explore the new structure, and continue — or begin — your journey toward achieving mental health for real. Chris Boardman's Sites: SoundBridge Health Website: https://www.soundbridgehealth.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChrisBoardmanMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chimimimusic/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisboardmanmediagroup/ OTR Sites: Podcast Website: https://bobadleman.wixsite.com/otrmentalhealth Public Square Community Ko-Fi.com/otrachieving Mail: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/otrachievingmentalhealhfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/over_the_rainbow_achieving X: https://twitter.com/overtherain1bow YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChEYTddPDUaiZbFliit1r5Q LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-adleman/ This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podder - https://www.podderapp.com/privacy-policy Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

________________________________________ Here is a transcript of what's in this episode. Bob talks first , the following will be read by a voiceover. This is an important message for all OTR listeners, and I want to make sure I reach everybody. This is also in the description, but it’s presented verbally next. This will bring everyone up to date on the exciting rebrand starting January 27th at midnight. So, what’s happening OTR – Achieving Mental Health for Real is heading into a major rebrand on January 27th, where we’re calling the brand OTR Universe — the structure this project was always meant to have. First the new logo, which you may have seen on the social sites. Plus, OTR Universe will be anchored from a brand-new home website, which becomes the listener portal. The entire site gets a full rebuild in the rebrand, including new and updated menu names and functionality, but will still have the links to the popular podcast player as before. The following describes the functionality accessible from the new home main web page: OTR Public Square — the new front door This is where people show up, speak freely, and participate. This is a repurpose of the Ki-Fo dot com site currently called Real Plus. The site is design to be for a sponsor site and has places to donate all over the site, I took out all that I could, but to cut corners I needed a ready built site to establish a community posting and message board which will be renamed to Public Square in OTR Universe and accessible from the main home site I have several objectives with OTR Universe. Mostly to reach listeners to come share your stories and meet others that will validate them, and that’s what it’s all about. Be a part of OTR Universe and achieve mental health for real, To thank you for trying to connect, we will give you free Real Premium for at least a full year to try the benefits and decide if you want to renew for another year for six cents a day. You can activate now by sending an anonymous post addressed to staff or Public Square. Write that you want it for free and you will actually not start the year until all benefits are rolled in one at a time. You will receive each benefit as soon as there rolled out, full details ahead. I just ask you to consider it, so we can form a small healing community. This is my dream but only your courage and support can make it come true. There will be two ways to post to Public Square 1, Anonymous Posting Zero tracing information. You post. We receive only the post. You can choose to send it to staff only, or you can have it appear on the Public Square post page. This process is not posted live since it’s not tied to the Public Square directly. So, no logon or email needed. It will be transferred to the Public Square post page throughout the day automatically. It’s the only way to do totally anonymous posting. 2. Named Live Posting Live interaction with other Public Square users and staff. More features. More connection. Requires free sign up to Ki Fo.com with logon id name and password and any email address. The logon id does not have to be an email address. No obligation. No subscription. You can use a temporary email address and delete that email address after you sign-up — you remain virtually anonymous. It is a little more work, but it gets posted immediately. This process is available today from the home website, the above only details how it will be for the rebrand. Personal Note I know the community thing is currently not popular and I understand. I felt embarrassed and shame before I first came out with my full name. All I’m saying is you may be carrying this shame weight around too long, it’s really time you shared 101 percent anonymously. You have my word. The podcast app you listen to now takes more info from you. Because anonymous posting takes zero. Let it out, you are not alone. OTR Universe is here. It’s no obligation and everything to gain. Because the power of validation is Real. It’s what I do on the show, Also, if you’re a student in a mental health field or work in mental health, please let me know your there. Its all that I’m asking. Let me know that I’m helping. The Podcast OTR – Achieving Mental Health for Real is still the center of the universe, the show that’s carried the weight from day one — the steady signal everything else orbits is still the same quality that your used to, and then some. Season XI will bring improved sound quality, especially noticeable starting in March. Also, of course, the new logo, a high profile and mission critical guests’ line-up, and a few other surprises. Podcast Scope Additions Achieving Mental Health for Real will not only dive into many Mental Health issues which speaks to the internal part of you , but will also take a deep dive into how you navigate the external relationships with family, friends, co-workers and others. This may be solo or panel episodes, instead of a guest format, OTR Blog Another new product under the Universe is the new OTR blog We decided the name of the blog in OTR universe will be “Lies From the Tablecloth” which will be a hard hitting monthly always free blog discussing the lies that your family, friends and the rest of society put on you and the scripts that your expected to follow. The blog will especially debunk the myths, stigma, and inherited lies about mental health. It will do this with theory, lived experience, satire and humor. The premier of the blog will be in March. Real Premium is back and is now free for the first year Real Premium will eventually become a subscription layer, but every benefit is now free for a full year if you activate it. To activate, there are only a couple of ways to let me know. By Anonymous or Named live Posting. Anonymous posting will automatically return a password and link to the benefit drop file. Otherwise, you can send an email to [email protected] titled “Real Premium” and I will send back the drop site benefit file and password, Initial benefits • Early Release – includes the January 27th initial early drop • Bloopers – feel free to ask for the first drop file and password Coming in 2026 • Annotated Transcripts — not just what we said, but why it mattered • Monthly Dispatch — one email, no marketing, just what we’re building and breaking • Verified / Co Authored Badge — a quiet nod that you’re shaping this with us • Suggestion Box (with Teeth) — you pitch it, we respond; if it’s good, we build it Your free year does not start until all initial benefits are live. After the year, you can subscribe to Real Premium to continue benefits. If you do nothing, benefits simply end. No auto subscription. Ever. ________________________________________ Premium Subscription Details • $1.99/month • Or $22/year • About 6 cents a day • Price never increases once you’re in, unless you leave for more than a year • Once there are five or more subscribers, 5% dividends go back to subscribers (If the price rises for new members, dividends could eventually offset your entire cost) I’ve funded this show myself for all these years because staying free of degrading, morally questionable ads matters. But to keep building, I need help — not charity, but investment. An investment in the show, and in the mission of real mental health. Thank you ahead of time. When Does Rebrand Benefits Start The rebrand happens at midnight January 27th, The first Early Release drops then too, exclusively inside Real Premium. That is the only access point on rebrand day. The first early release episode will feature my guest Chris Boardman, a genius composer and orchestrator behind major Hollywood films like The Color Purple, Die Hard, and Payback. His accolades include: • Six Emmy Awards and 13 Nominations • Academy Award nomination for The Color Purple • Major credits across films, , and records • Collaborations with Quincy Jones, Barbra Streisand, and Marvin Hamlischan • Platinum selling arranger and orchestrator • Member of the jazz group Wishful Thinking Boardman is the person studios call when they need elegance, complexity, or a musical problem solved fast. He moves between genres — orchestral, jazz, pop, Broadway, film score — without losing clarity or emotional precision. Chris came to OTR to tell the story of his battle with his Mental Health and to talk about his most meaningful work that emerged from his personal battle with PTSD. Recognizing how his musical storytelling skills could help others face similar struggles, he founded SoundBridge Health to harness music's therapeutic power in combating anxiety, depression and PTSD. What began as his own healing journey has now become his life's purpose - using music as medicine for those who suffer. So get ready for this huge shift to OTR Universe and watch for further detail on the social pages. It’s a can’t miss premiere. You can ask or your free access through the existing “Anon Post” menu item or get a id on KiFo.com free amd follow the Real Plus site as document in the Real Plus and Premium Plus Special Episode on August 28th 2025. Ask for your Real Premium access now and enjoy the launch of the new OTR Universe. This is a repurpose of the Ki-Fo dot com site currently called Real Plus. The site is design to be for a sponsor site and has places to donate all over the site, I took out all that I could, but to cut corners I needed a ready built site to establish a community posting and message board which will be renamed to Public Square in OTR Universe and accessible from the main home site I have several...