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Reflecting on her early experiences that prepared Taffi Dollar for leadership, she notes that initially it was her husband, Creflo, who first heard and answered the call to ministry. Having accepted Christ as her Lord and Savior in college was a powerful and life-changing event, yet the full extent of Taffi’s calling to ministry had yet to unfold. Taffi remembers her college bible study group that nurtured Christian fellowship with one another as a formative experience in her life. At that time, she was preparing for a career in counseling and mental health and had not yet received a call to Christian ministry. Yet as she helped with college Christian activities, she had a passion from the Lord to work with women and children. In the late 1980s, she helped Christian artists; she also worked with children’s ministry and with educational curriculum aided by her mom, who was a teacher and counselor. Her cousins were also teachers. As time progressed, Taffi’s focus turned to women involved in prostitution and the adult entertainment industry. As she became more aware of these issues, her interest grew. When asked: How would you define Christian leadership? At a basic level, she said, it means that a Christian leader is someone others follow. “If no one follows you, are you a leader?” A Christian leader is also noted by those who emulate your life and teachings. “You have an influence over them.” While leadership has changed in many ways over the years, Taffi approaches leadership as a believer, and in how I relate with people. “As you study more, you discover more.” Turning to the moment when she first realized or decided, “I am egalitarian,” we explored the context that prompted her decision and her feelings about it. According to Taffi, it is crucial to study the teachings of Scripture concerning women’s leadership. Her introduction to biblical equality for women happened at a CBE conference in Johannesburg, South Africa, sponsored by Rhema Bible Church. The convener, Xana McCauley, was a friend of Taffi’s, and throughout the conference Taffi, Xana, and Mimi Haddad had times of private discussion concerning Scripture and its support for women’s leadership in church, home, and the world. While this topic was not discussed in Taffi’s circles, speakers at CBE’s conference in Johannesburg explored biblical relationships concerning how to relate as husband and wife. Taffi did not realize her church in Atlanta was complementarian. But as the conference progressed, speakers described what Head/Kaphale meant in Scripture. By “shining a light on the topic,” it was revolutionary. Teachings like this are important for younger generations to hear the truth, which they might not hear otherwise. It is important to explore topics from different angles, given the misconceptions about the term “egalitarian,” which is different from feminism and/or same-sex ideology, which is based on secular ideology. It is not biblically based, whereas egalitarianism is. The biblical foundation of egalitarianism is rooted in the New Covenant and illustrated by Christ, who modeled the elevation of women. It challenges the superiority or domination of women and supports women and men serving side by side. Equality means that, in Christ, women and men stand on equal ground. Some people ask if equality is found in Scripture. Is equality biblical or just a theory? Are our Bible translations solid and helpful? These are great questions. In responding holistically, we see Christ’s shadow in the OT and recognize who completes the call of men and women standing side by side. As Paul said in Galatians 3:28, “in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, neither man nor woman.” This is racial, gender, and economic equality. Wow! This is how Christ wants us to see each other. Not men who are Jewish and rich. But women, gentile, and those who are not rich all receive equal blessings in Christ. We see now and recognize this is not secular heresy, but the fulfillment of Christ. My head was off. It was not Adam alone, but Eve was there too as a strong rescue, Genesis 1:18–24. Yet too often, “strong rescue” is translated as “help” in this text, suggesting that women are weak and should serve as an aide or in a domestic role. This is not how biblical women served. They were scholars, as noted in the example of Mary and Martha, who sat at Christ’s feet in Luke 10:38–42. Consider the woman at the well in John 4:4–42. Christ spent time with her, and her life was transformed. These are revolutionary texts given to those in a patriarchal world. There is also the story in Acts 2:1–18, as the Holy Spirit empowered men and women equally to create a new royal priesthood of believers. The Holy Spirit descended not just on men of certain ethnicities, but on all ethnic men, women, and children, who also received the HS. I share these texts all the time, as an ambassador of the message, calling the church to practically live them out by modeling them in ministry and marriage, in decision-making in our home. My three daughters see this lived out, as they aspire to grow and mature in their work lives. One daughter’s career is divided by gender. We had conversations about how to bring women alongside, and how she could make a difference. In considering the reactions from family and friends as she became egalitarian, Taffi notes these were overwhelmingly positive. Yet the question concerning the husband as head lingered. Head as described in Ephesians 5:21–33 is not dictatorial or domineering, but is sacrificial servanthood, not dominating over others, a message that received wonderful support all around. As we modeled biblical mutuality, others could see the benefits of an egalitarian lifestyle. Naman and Abigail are examples that women’s voices are needed to make better decisions, so everyone benefits. Paul’s writings and life transformed concepts of belonging and kinship, as with Philemon and his slave Onesimus in Philemon 1. Here Paul called Philemon’s slave Onesimus “my son,” and one who was useful to Paul, even Paul’s “very heart.” Onesimus is a dear brother in Christ and beneficial to spreading the Gospel. Love wins out, and Onesimus is freed. History suggests he became bishop of Ephesus. The story of Onesimus reminds me of Priscilla cited in Romans 16:3, Acts 18:2, 18–19, 26. Scripture teaches that Apollos needed her teaching. In answering the question: What aspect of your life made being egalitarian most challenging? Ministry, Marriage, Parenting, or beyond, Taffi responded by citing marriage and ministry, as she used her voice in both spheres. It took time to become comfortable using her voice, since her husband had made decisions and they lacked practice communicating, so Taffi did not yield to his voice but offered her own. Initially, it took time to discern her thoughts and reasons behind them, especially as it impacts her life, their children, or areas of ministry that Taffi oversees. She developed the practice of taking time to pray to discern how best to present her ideas. Recalling CBE’s teachings in South Africa, Taffi said it was a turning point in learning about women and biblical equality. It was also inspired by much prayer prior to returning home because she realized her life had changed. She could not go back to her former complementarian views and life. She asked God to soften her husband’s heart for the sake of our marriage and ministry. God answered her prayers, as Creflo too was impacted by what Taffi heard at CBE’s conference. Yet it took time to be fully impacted by the biblical teachings on women because so many women believe they need a priest to make decisions for them. Yet, Scripture liberates women to take decisions to Jesus in prayer. Hebrews 4:14–16 teaches that Jesus is our High Priest, not men, as some mistakenly assume is taught in 1 Timothy 2:11–15. Thus, from Genesis to Revelation, women were far from silent throughout the early church to the present day. Sadly, there is a lack of knowledge and ignorance about Scripture’s teachings concerning women speaking. We need to see women speaking in Scripture like Eunice and Lois, Priscilla and Aquila, and other women. Paul recognized women were needed in his ministry. This discussion ended by observing that while Adam’s body was the source of Eve, she came from his side and was his strong rescue, not his subservient. He could not complete his work in Eden without her. Throughout the biblical text, we learn that women hear from God and obey God, not men, as Lord. Men are not the only ones who hear from God. Jesus said that his sheep hear his voice John 10:27–28. Because Christian women are equally led by the Holy Spirit, women and men should submit to one another in reference to Christ Ephesians 5:21. Ending her interview, Taffi proclaims with confidence, and as a calling to all Christian women, that “God is the source of our being. We receive our maturity and become everything we are to become, all we need to be through. In Christ we become the fullness of who we are meant to be. These are so important for all Christians, not just men or one race, but as ambassadors, God needs everyone.” Amen, and thanks be to God.

Dr. Sunberg highlighted the overarching biblical (prescriptive and descriptive) texts supporting women’s shared leadership such as: Genesis 1:26–30, and Galatians 3:28, and Romans 16:1–16. These texts are the “rings that rule overall rings” to use a JRR Tolkien image. Even more, throughout Scripture we see, the power of the Holy Spirit empowering, guiding, encouraging women leaders. Paul’s Gospel vision clearly includes women as part of the Great Commission, to share Jesus with the entire world. Phoebe’s leadership cited in Romans 16:1–2 implemented Paul’s vision. Paul’s vision of church planting takes shape and flourishes beside his female workers, like Junia, Phoebe, and Priscilla. While many Christians tend to gloss over these details, they are crucial in planting, serving, and leading churches today.     Carla addressed “the sociology of Scripture” which includes both biblical manhood and biblical womanhood as partners in the Gospel, not adversaries. Supremely, Proverbs 31 celebrates God’s ideal or vision for woman—one of gift-based ministry and service not limited by gender.  Referencing Dr. Ben Witherington, biblical patriarchy, is an exegete without clothes.   Citing an extensive history noting the steady growth of women leaders/pastors in the Wesleyan Holiness church that began initially with only 2% women, to now 20% of clergy are women in the Church of the Nazarenewhich Carla is a member. Carla and discussed meeting this year, in person for the first time, during the recent Wesleyan Holiness Women Clergy Conference held in Minneapolis. This event aimed at supporting women clergy and CBE was invited to join in to support their inter-racial, international women’s leadership which parallels that of CBE’s ministry.   We ended by discussing the needs women clergy have for flexibility given all they manage in their lives. women need support for the many responsibilities of being a Christian mother, wife, pastor, scholar, etc. Often these women are a minority serving beside men who have centuries of traditions supporting male-leaders. We ended in prayer. This was indeed an information, wisdom, holiness packed podcast!!  Books Carla has contributed to:  Viewing the whole sweep of scripture, Carla edited the book: Faithful to the Call, Women in Ministry. She wrote, The Christian Life: A Nazarene Perspective and Why Holiness?: The Transformational Message That Unites Us and Teach us to Pray: What We can Learn from Scripture.      Carla coauthored, Reclaiming Eve: The Identity and Calling of Women in the Kingdom of God; Color: God’s Intention for Diversity; The Cappadocian Mothers: Deification Exemplified in the Writings of Basil, Gregory and Gregory; Uncommon Virtues: Seven Saints Who shaped our Faith; Reflecting the Image: Our Call to Mirror Christ to the World, and Pulling Back the Curtain on the Former Soviet Union.

On this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Dr. Preston Sprinkle to discuss his new book, "From Genesis to Junia: An Honest Search for What the Bible Really Says about Women in Leadership." A deeply committed Christian, husband, and father, Preston Sprinkle said his career has focused on serving the church as a scholar. As such, he approaches questions concerning faith and life through a deep dive exegetical analysis of the related biblical passages and related historical contexts. For many years, as a complementarian, Preston read the key passages (1 Timothy 2:11–15, 1 Corinthians 14:34–36, and Ephesians 5:21–33) at face value—through a plain reading of the text which, seemingly, supports male leadership in church and the home. Yet, over time, he noticed how the Greek syntax in these passages was complex. Attending more carefully, he began to focus on single words in the text like “silent.” This practice was quite fruitful in helping him realize how women were not silent in Scripture contra 1 Corinthians 14:34–36. This seeming inconsistency evoked questions around what NT women were talking about. Clearly, they had a voice. In fact, leading Bible women were far from silent. God called and gifted women to speak as prophets, judges, warriors, and diplomats. Women were Christ’s disciples, and women served beside Paul as deacons, apostles, church planters, and his coworkers. Romans 16 abounds with the voices of women, slaves, and non-Jews—aligning with the welcome of women as Gospel agents (Gal. 3:28). Stunningly, women’s voices were heard in Corinth, as they prayed and prophesied in the church (1 Cor. 11:5), raising questions about the meaning of 1 Corinthians 14:34–36. Other passages in 1 Corinthians, such as 1 Corinthians 7:4-5, 1 Corinthians 11:7, and 1 Corinthians 11, challenged Preston as a complementarian because:   Wives and husbands have authority over each other’s bodies: 1 Cor. 7:4–5   Women prayed and prophesied: 1 Cor. 11:5.   Women “… have authority over her own head, because of the angels:” 1 Cor. 11:10.   Woman and man are interdependent: 1 Cor. 11:11–12.   Preston cited as a helpful resource, Gregory Dawe’s works on head metaphors in Ephesians, The Body in Question: Metaphor and Meaning in the Interpretation of Ephesians 5:21–33 (Biblical Interpretation Series, 30)   Turning to 1 Timothy 2:11–12, Preston points to the extreme use of authority (authentein) Paul evokes in this passage that mirrors the unilateral, domineering authority of slave owners over their slaves as it demeaned slaves ontologically as lesser humans for a lesser purpose. It was a devaluation Jesus challenged in Matthew 20:25–28: “Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”   Summing it up, Preston suggests that three complex, poorly translated texts cannot overturn the “wide ocean of women leaders in Scripture.” Which is why he cautions against silencing women based on a plain reading of the Bible. Add to this the many women scholars he admired even before becoming an egalitarian. Women like Drs. Linda Belleville Sandra Ritcher, Lynn Cohick, Cynthia Westfall, and others are deeply regarded and highly respected throughout the Christian world. We add Preston to the list of egalitarian scholars and leaders, thanking him for his very insightful work throughout this podcast and in his newest book, From Genesis to Junia: An Honest Search for What the Bible Really Says about Women in Leadership, available in CBE’s bookstore. Enjoy!  00:56 Welcome and Guest Intro  02:59 Preston’s Journey Shift  04:56 Deep Dive Research Process  06:31 Key Textual Turning Points  11:04 Women Scholars and Influences  13:24 Feedback and Early Critiques  19:51 Jesus Centered Vision for Women  21:46 Conference Invitation Chicago 2026  24:39 Hopes for the Book  25:33 When Egalitarianism Gets Real  26:45 Why Change Takes Time  30:37 Texts of Terror Overview  31:06 Women Silent in Church  33:29 Marriage and Household Codes  35:18 Authority in 1 Timothy  37:32 Hardest Passage 1 Corinthians 11  40:24 Mutuality in Paul  42:07 Conference Invite and Thanks  43:29 Closing Prayer and Support

On this episode of Mutuality Matters: Women and Words, Host Dr. Mimi Haddad interviewed Rev. Dr. Ingrid Faro. Ingrid described her challenging childhood and young married life as one of abuse, both psychologically and physically. Her early church experience was equally difficult, as women were to be seen but not heard. In her family of origins, she felt invisible and unimportant. She was terrified of her mother and had no real relationship with her dad. Ingrid was struggling to figure out who she is and even wondered if it was safe to think her thoughts. She also wanted out of the church because, as Ingrid describes, she so wanted God to be fair, but life didn’t seem to be fair.   Ingrid shared how her first husband (a preacher and NT scholar) was unfaithful to her. He was also violent and broke her nose, landing her in the ER, where she told the attending doctors that she had an “accident,” but they were unconvinced. These and other experiences led to her struggle with the question of “theodicy,” whether God is just and good. Ingrid wondered if she could ever really trust God. This led to an exploration of God theologically. She became acquainted with and greatly admires the scholarship of the OT scholar Dr. Abraham Joshua Heschel. A passion for the OT was part of her journey.  Her second husband nurtured honest, even blunt communication, or as Brené Brown says, “clarity is kindness.” As Ingrid studied Scripture, she encountered many bold women who henceforward served as her role models! In them she found a sense of release, or as she said, “I didn’t know the weight that was on my shoulders until it was lifted off me.” Ingrid began to see God’s clear anointing on women which began with the Apostle Paul. Ingrid began to sense a calling to an academic study of Scripture, which gave her pause. She was given opportunities to say what was on her heart but felt conflicted. Then she asked herself, “Can I stand before God and say, ‘I can’t.’” She had to distinguish between a fear of people and a fear of God.  Yet the biblical “texts of terror” that appeared to silence women were very limited compared the many, many texts that welcomed their wisdom, voice and leadership. Consider Paul’s texts that seem to silence women (1 Cor. 14:34–36, 1 Tim. 2:11–15, Eph. 5:22&FF) compared to the many women Paul celebrates as co-leaders with him in preaching the gospel and leading churches, like those cited in Romans 16. More recently, Ingrid has considered the challenge of abuse in the church one of the most pressing challenges the church must address. She sometimes feels that the church is one of the most abusive places women encounter. Yet this was certainly an issue noted in Genesis 2. Here Ingrid notes the challenge of Bible translation as too often Genesis 2:18 is translated “The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” The Hebrew word for “helper,” is ezer, which means “a strong rescue,” as Dave Freedman notes. “Helper” fails to describe the true meaning of ezer.   Ingrid also points to the work of Katharine Bushnell who redeems Eve by observing that she was the first person to have faith and hope in God’s promises. She also points to the following authors who have inspired her own scholarship and faith: Karen Swallow Prior, Carol L. Meyers, Edith Deen, Sandra Ritcher, Cynthia Long Westfall, and also biblical models like Abraham and Sarah.    For many years, Ingrid taught OT and has recently published the book, Redeeming Eden: How Women in the Bible Advance the Story of Salvation. Ingrid will lead a keynote and workshop at CBE’s conference this summer in Chicago, where she will also receive CBE’s Lifetime Achievement Award.  Guest Bio:  Bio: Revd. Dr. Ingrid Faro is an ordained minister and currently serves as interim president and professor of Old Testament at Northern Seminary in Chicago. She previously served as dean of academic affairs, dean of theology at the Scandinavian School of Theology, and director of master’s programs at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, where she also taught Hebrew and Old Testament. She is an international speaker and the author of Redeeming Eden: How Women in the Bible Advance the Story of Salvation with Joyce Koo Dalrymple, Demystifying Evil, co-author of Honest Answers, Evil in Genesis, co-author of forthcoming As We Forgive: A Biblical Theology of Forgiveness, as well as articles, chapters, and reviews. Prior to her work in theological education, Ingrid was an entrepreneur and president of an insurance consulting group serving one-thousand agents in thirty-five states for twenty years. Ingrid has two children and four grandchildren.    Related Resources:  Healing from Hierarchy: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/mutuality-healing-from-hierarchy/  Silent No More: Exposing Abuse Among Evangelicals: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/silent-no-more-exposing-abuse-among-evangelicals/  Her Silence Screams: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/her-silence-screams/  When Religion Hurts: How Complementarian Churches Harm Women: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/when-religion-hurts-how-complementarian-churches-hurt/    0:00 Called to Seminary  01:25 Meet Ingrid Faro 03:37 From Trauma to Theology  06:25 Studying Evil in Genesis  08:36 Why Theodicy Matters  10:31 Patriarchy and Abuse  16:56 Finding Freedom and Voice  19:31 Leading at Northern Seminary  23:17 What Did I Tell You?  26:29 Women in Theology Today  28:21 Chicago Conference Invite  29:23 Reading the Clobber Passages  31:16 Scholars Correcting Exegesis  34:04 Trauma Abuse and the Church  35:37 Genesis Reframing Creation  40:03 Women as Full Image Bearers  42:47 Old Testament Women with Voice  46:29 Key Stories Sarah Hannah Ruth  51:20 Future of Women in Ministry  54:58 Global Impact and Closing Prayer

In this podcast, Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird explores the crucial sociological context that often influences human interpretation of Scripture along with the complexities involved in reading passages from Paul who is considered both the ally of both egalitarians and complementarians. Spending significant time on Paul’s reference to Phoebe (Romans 16:1–2) as deacon in the church of Cenchrea. Too often we allow Paul’s passages that appear to silence women for all time (1 Timothy 2:11-15, Ephesians 5:22&FF and 1 Corinthians 14:34–36 ) overlooking the many women speaking, teaching and leading in the OT and NT, especially beside Paul and throughout Church History.  Mike considers the impact of sin on God’s original design for women and men in Gen 1:26–31. Because of sin, the mutuality enjoyed by women and men deteriorates into the male rule noted in Gen 3:16.   Supremely, Mike notes the victories of Christ in conquering sin on Calvary, along with the many passages in the New Testament that speak of the ontological mutuality and equal service of women and men, such as Proverbs 31, Galatians 3:28 but also a passage heavily cited by the Abolitionists that reads: “From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands,” Acts 17:26. Read full chapter.  Mike masterfully integrates biblical theology, church history, theology, and culture as he explores key topics impacting women, marriage, and service. His sense of humor, use of metaphor and his experiences working in the church and academy brings keen insights into the egalitarian conversation today. We hope you enjoy this episode with Dr. Mike Bird, a dear friend of CBE.     Guest Bio: The Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird:  Mike is Deputy Principal and Lecturer in New Testament at Ridley College in Melbourne, Australia. He is an Anglican priest and is married with four children. He is the author of several books including the awarding winning The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story of Jesus and with N.T. Wright, The New Testament in its World.    Books published by Michael F. Bird:  Whispers of Revolution: Jesus and the Coming King.  Romans: Greek-English Interlinear Paraphrase Study Notes    Books published by N.T. Wright and Michael F. Bird:  The New Testament in Its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of First Christians.  Jesus and the Powers: Christian Political Witness in an Age of Totalitarian Terro and Dysfunctional Democracies.  The New Testament in Its World Workbook: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of the First Christians.  The New Testament You Never Knew Bible Study Guide: Exploring the Context, Purpose, and Meaning of the Story of God.  The New Testament in Its World: An Introduction to the History, Literature, and Theology of the First Christians. The Gospel of the Lord: How the Early Church Wrote the Story of Jesus, by N.T. Wright and Michael F. Bird.  Related Resources: The Invasion of the Homoians: Trinity and Gender, Again! Fretting Over Phoebe

In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Dr. Mimi Haddad continues her interview with guest Dr. Joel B. Green, an expert on the Gospel of Luke, about the portrayal of women in Luke's writings. Together they explore how these depictions challenge traditional gender roles and the importance of translation choices in understanding biblical messages about authority and equality. Dr. Green highlights the radical nature of Jesus' teachings and shares insights on how women in early Christianity were active participants in ministry. 00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters 00:26 Exploring the Gospel's View on Women 01:31 Mary: A Prototypical Disciple 04:03 Women in Luke's Gospel 06:20 Men and Women in Luke's World 13:02 The Role of Women in Early Christianity 14:42 Challenges in Complementarian Contexts 21:13 Translation Issues in Key Biblical Passages 29:47 Favorite Women-Friendly Bible Translations 34:36 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer Guest Bio  Joel B. Green joined Fuller’s faculty in 2007 and has served several administrative posts: associate dean for the Center for Advanced Theological Studies (2008–2016, 2019–present), dean of the School of Theology (2014–2018), and provost (2016–2018). Prior to coming to Fuller, Dr. Green served for ten years at Asbury Theological Seminary as professor of New Testament interpretation, as dean of the School of Theology, and as provost. Previous faculty and academic-administrative appointments include the American Baptist Seminary of the West / Graduate Theological Union (1992–1997) and New College for Advanced Christian Studies Berkeley (1985–1992).  Green has written or edited some 55 books, including 8 that have won awards: Connections: A Lectionary Commentary for Preaching and Worship, Year C, Volume 1, Advent through Epiphany (with Thomas Long, Luke Powery, and Cynthia Rigby, 2018), Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (2nd ed., 2013), Common English Bible Study Bible (2013), Dictionary of Scripture and Ethics (2011), In Search of the Soul: Four Views of the Mind-Body Problem (2nd ed., 2010), Introducing the New Testament: Its Literature and Theology (with Paul J. Achtemeier and Marianne Meye Thompson, 2001), The Gospel of Luke (1997), and Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (with Scot McKnight, 1992). Among his recent publications are Discovering Luke (2021), Luke as Narrative Theologian (2020), Conversion in Luke-Acts: Divine Initiative, Human Cognition, and the People of God (2015), Why Salvation? (2013), and The World of the New Testament: Cultural, Social and Historical Contexts (with Lee Martin McDonald, 2013).  He is the editor of the New International Commentary on the New Testament, as well as the Two Horizons New Testament Commentary, and serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Theological Interpretation, Theology and Science, and Science and Christian Belief. Green has been elected to membership in both Studiorum Novi Testamenti Societas (SNTS) and the International Society for Science and Religion (ISSR).  Related Resources  Teach us, Mary: The Authority of Women Teachers in the Church in Light of the Magnificat (Luke 1:46–55): https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/teach-us-mary/ The Significance of Three Narrative Parallels of Men and Women in Luke 1, John 3–4, and Acts 9: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/raised-obscurity-narratival-and-theological-study-characterization-women-luke-acts/ Whose Wife Will She Be? A Feminist Interpretation of Luke 20:27–38: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/whose-wife-will-she-be-feminist-interpretation/

In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, Dr. Joel B. Green joins the conversation to discuss the importance of Bible translation and interpretation, emphasizing the inclusion of women in the process. Dr. Green, a seasoned Bible scholar and faculty administrator, shares his extensive career and insights on the subject. He underscores the necessity of diverse perspectives in translation teams, discusses common biases in Bible translations, and offers advice on how English readers can detect and overcome these biases. The episode also delves into the significance of various successful Bible translations, the training of translators, and the impact of denominational and gender diversity on the integrity of translations.  00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters  00:38 Meet Dr. Joel Green  02:22 Joel Green's Academic Journey  05:38 Challenges in Bible Scholarship  06:48 The Importance of Women in Bible Translation  12:23 Overcoming Translation Bias  19:38 Training and Selecting Bible Translators  27:13 Successful Bible Translations  34:38 Conclusion and Call to Action    Guest Bio  Joel B. Green joined Fuller’s faculty in 2007 and has served several administrative posts: associate dean for the Center for Advanced Theological Studies (2008–2016, 2019–present), dean of the School of Theology (2014–2018), and provost (2016–2018). Prior to coming to Fuller, Dr. Green served for ten years at Asbury Theological Seminary as professor of New Testament interpretation, as dean of the School of Theology, and as provost. Previous faculty and academic-administrative appointments include the American Baptist Seminary of the West / Graduate Theological Union (1992–1997) and New College for Advanced Christian Studies Berkeley (1985–1992).  Green has written or edited some 55 books, including 8 that have won awards: Connections: A Lectionary Commentary for Preaching and Worship, Year C, Volume 1, Advent through Epiphany (with Thomas Long, Luke Powery, and Cynthia Rigby, 2018), Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (2nd ed., 2013), Common English Bible Study Bible (2013), Dictionary of Scripture and Ethics (2011), In Search of the Soul: Four Views of the Mind-Body Problem (2nd ed., 2010), Introducing the New Testament: Its Literature and Theology (with Paul J. Achtemeier and Marianne Meye Thompson, 2001), The Gospel of Luke (1997), and Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels (with Scot McKnight, 1992). Among his recent publications are Discovering Luke (2021), Luke as Narrative Theologian (2020), Conversion in Luke-Acts: Divine Initiative, Human Cognition, and the People of God (2015), Why Salvation? (2013), and The World of the New Testament: Cultural, Social and Historical Contexts (with Lee Martin McDonald, 2013).  He is the editor of the New International Commentary on the New Testament, as well as the Two Horizons New Testament Commentary, and serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Theological Interpretation, Theology and Science, and Science and Christian Belief. Green has been elected to membership in both Studiorum Novi Testamenti Societas (SNTS) and the International Society for Science and Religion (ISSR).  Green has 12 years of pastoral ministry experience.  Related Resources  Intersectionality: Words Matter! Freedom through Lectionary and Bible Translation with Rev. Dr. Wilda C. Gafney: https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/intersectionality-words-matter/    Women and Words: Comparing Bible Translations with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer:   https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-comparing-bible-translations/    Women and Words: Exploring Women’s Biblical Equality Through Bible Translation with Dr. Roy Ciampa  https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-exploring-womens-biblical-equality-through-bible-translation/    Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

In this episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast from CBE International, hosts Mimi and Charel speak with Dr. Jeannine Brown who discusses the pressing need to interpret the Biblical text of 1 Peter 3:1–7 within its first-century Greco-Roman context. Dr. Brown emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural and historical background behind the passages on submission, particularly 1 Peter 3:1–7. She explores how Peter's household codes provide agency to often marginalized groups like wives and slaves, contrary to the hierarchical norms of the time. The conversation underscores the relevance today of recognizing and respecting context while interpreting Biblical texts—an essential factor for both scholars and modern readers.    00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters  00:02 Exploring the Context of Submission in 1 Peter  00:49 Welcome and Introductions  01:33 Reading and Analyzing 1 Peter 3:1-7  02:57 Cultural Background and Interpretation  03:37 Household Codes in the Greco-Roman World  07:24 Missional Moments and Divided Households  08:20 Challenges for Christian Wives in the First Century  10:03 Slavery and Moral Agency in 1 Peter  11:28 Understanding Peter's Use of Household Codes  16:50 Modern Interpretations and Misconceptions  27:46 The Role of Headings in Biblical Interpretation  30:15 Instructions for Husbands in 1 Peter 3:7  36:30 Exploring Social and Physical Vulnerability  37:19 Interpreting 'Weaker Vessel' in Context  38:02 Challenging Traditional Views on Gender Roles  40:18 Co-Heirs and Inheritance in Early Christianity  41:50 Family Metaphors in 1 Peter  43:37 Egalitarian Impulses in the New Testament  45:28 Household Codes and Their Implications  50:08 Suffering for Good and Loyalty to Jesus  52:47 Translation Challenges and Responsibilities  58:01 Applying 1 Peter in Modern Contexts  01:04:03 Conclusion and Further Resources    Guest Bio: Dr. Jeannine Brown   Jeannine Brown is professor of New Testament at Bethel Seminary and Program Director of Bethel Seminary’s Online programs. Jeannine received in MA from Bethel Seminary, Saint Paul, MN. and her PhD from Luther seminary, Saint Paul, MN. Dr. Brown has taught at Bethel Seminary for over 20 years. She teaches in the areas of New Testament, Greek, hermeneutics, and integration.    Dr. Brown has focused much of her research and writing on the Gospels, hermeneutics, and interdisciplinary integration. In addition to a book on biblical hermeneutics (Scripture as Communication, now in second edition) and two books on integration, she has published three commentaries on Matthew's Gospel and one on Philippians (Tyndale NT series). She is a member of the NIV translation team and is an editor for the NIV Study Bible, revised edition (2020). Her current writing projects include a commentary 1 Peter (NICNT) and book on themes in 1 Peter. Jeannine’s other published works include: Scripture as Communication (2021, 2007); The Gospels as Stories (2020); Relational Integration of Psychology and Christian Theology (2018); Becoming Whole and Holy: An Integrative Conversation about Christian Formation (2011); Embedded Genres in the New Testament: Understanding Their Impact for Interpretation and three commentaries on the Gospel of Matthew (2018, 2015, 2012). Jeannine Brown co-edited the second edition of Jesus and the Gospels (2013). She has published numerous journal articles and book essays on the Gospels of Matthew and John, 1 Peter, and topics of hermeneutics. Some of these have been published in Journal of Biblical Literature, New Testament Studies, Catholic Biblical Quarterly, and Horizons in Biblical Theology. Jeannine thoroughly enjoys teaching in churches and ministries on the topics of Bible interpretation and the New Testament. She is married to Tim Brown, singer-songwriter, and has two adult daughters.  Story Notes  Today’s podcast focused on 1 Pet 3:1–7. In the NIV it reads:  "Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear. Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."   Exploring the cultural background, Jeannine suggests that Peter is calling Christians to display behaviors that reflect Christ even as male dominance was a given. Jeannine explained that in the first century, Roman interest in well-organized households should mirror a well-organized Rome. Roman citizens were to live harmoniously within a well-organized Roman household. Where the passage makes a surprising move is in the call for husbands to have empathy for their wives with a consequence: that God will hear their prayers. Further Christian wives should view themselves beyond the cultural standard of female beauty. As the passage states: it’s not the adorning of women’s outer selves but their inner lives of faith in God. Doing right, and with faith that does not give into fear given God is ultimately in control. This passage is countercultural in its emphasis on Christian faith and the development of a peaceful inner life both of which acknowledge God’s supremacy versus that of emperor’s.     This passage calls both husbands and wives to do what is right: to be brave, to have faith in God who rules over all of Rome’s emperors, verse 7, to live within a culture with very differing values that offend Christian moral life. In this passage there is a tension in negotiating life lived in a culture at odds with Christian values, supremely concerning the divinity Jesus, or that of an emperor. While Jesus died on a Roman cross, even so, the passage evokes faith and courage in Christian households. The passage is helpful to missionaries in similar circumstances. How to live with courage and faith, elevating the gospel with behavior more often than words in a culture that exploited slaves and women.     Turning to 1 Peter 3:7 that reads:  "Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."     The Petrine texts lean into sibling language, especially that of children, which overall is very egalitarian in the cultural context of first century. Further, the language of “father” was not very much present in NT as it was in 1st century non-Christian texts. God’s children in Christ were to face each other in humility and this very egalitarian impulse in relating to one another. God is father, but in Christ we’re all siblings. Women and men are co-heirs is throughout NT. Leadership structure are notes but not ones in the NT.     The whole Petrine text is a significant challenge to the top-down rule from emperor as God down throughout the household structure which was central. Given what Peter is doing with family metaphors—of believers as children / siblings who are to love earnestly as family love each other, and as the elders are a group too much have wisdom but must lead by example. These impulses, leader on top, and wife below: this does simplify decisions, but this is not the texture of Peter. As he thinks of his context, and the household code, it is not a prescription but a triage—a pathway for healing top-down leadership. It’s what Christians do in an emergency. Emergency advice to the Christian community so it can survive. It’s about survival for the most vulnerable. The thrust of text is a call to attentiveness to the most vulnerable. In light of Tom Holland’s book—Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World—in brutal detail reveals the cruelty of Rome. In thinking of our next, the advice is that even if you suffer for doing good, you are blessed. And take comfort in that truth and knowledge that even those who slanders you, remain loyal to Christ, if you suffer as Jesus did, you will also share in his glory.  In fascinating detail, Jeannine describes the history of Bible translation and the canonical review that follows. For the NIV team, on which she contributes, their voting policy requires a 75% majority in approving translation choices. Thus, the team must make a compelling case to change something, so for 1 Peter, and the NT generally, it’s always wise to examine and read many translations to see differences.     In considering the backdrop in which the text arises, submission is not a new requirement. What is new for this culture is to ask that all behavior must be Christ-like. While believers are clearly frightened by opposition to Christian faith, the text calls them to act in ways that others will recognize their soul-allegiance to Christ. Win others over to Christ not out of fear but confident behavior that imitates Christ’s live. Jeannine recommends entering the text with a disciplined imagination that brings implications of texts to life then and now. Idolatry is key issue underlining the concerns in this text which encourages faith and living life not with words but by example.   Jeannine points listeners

In episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by Mimi Haddad and produced by CBE International, guest Mayra Ugalde addresses the importance of women's leadership and service in the church, as guided by biblical teachings. She emphasizes the necessity of obedience to Jesus over cultural obstacles and discusses the significance of both Old and New Testament scriptures in supporting women’s roles in ministry. The episode also explores the impact of failed interpretations and translation errors on women's roles in religious contexts. Additionally, it underscores the importance of personal biblical study and the need for Bible translations accessible to all languages and cultures. The conversation encourages women to fulfill their God-given purpose without fear of societal judgment. 00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks 00:23 Encouragement for Women in Ministry 00:56 Challenges in Biblical Interpretation 03:24 Biblical Support for Women's Leadership 03:49 The Importance of Service and Obedience 08:29 Recommendations for Bible Translations 11:53 Women in Scripture and Mission 12:31 Transformation Through Biblical Teachings 22:39 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell Related Resources Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4 The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

In this episode, Kim talks to Rt. Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango about the East Africa Revival Movement that began in 1927 and is still reverberating through East Africa today. Begun by two people praying for true faith in the Anglican church, the movement grew among laypeople to denominations across East Africa, challenging patriarchy, tribalism, and racism. Because one priest oversaw six or seven churches, women empowered by the spirit preached, shared their testimonies and lead their churches. They dressed in white to mark their new way of living, and today a few of these very elderly women still challenge and influence church leadership today. At the time of the revival, Kenya’s practice of polygamy was at an all-time high, yet these believers lived monogamous, egalitarian marriages. They sent their daughters to school in addition to their sons, and the changed the fabric of society. Today, the leaders against government corruption and tribal sectarianism have their roots in the East Africa Revival Movement. Guest Bio  Right Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango is the first woman in the history of the Anglican Church in Kenya to be elected as bishop. She serves as senior lecturer and dean of students at St. Paul’s University in Limuru, Kenya. She earned a PhD from the University of Wales, as well as a Master of Theology from the Asian Center for Theological Studies and Mission in Seoul, South Korea, and a bachelor's degree from St. Paul’s University, Limuru. She is the author of Gender and Development: A History of Women’s Education in Kenya. CBE Resources: Women's History Month: The African Face of Global Evangelicalism by Mimi Haddad https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/womens-history-month-the-african-face-of-global-evangelicalism/ by Emily Onyango: Read: The Negative Consequences of Dowry Payment on Women and Society https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/negative-consequences-dowry-payment-women-and-society/ Watch: Working Towards Mutuality as a Mark of Christian Identity: A Case of the Work of the African Church for Biblical Equality https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/working-towards-mutuality-mark-christian-identity-case-work-african-church/ Listen: The Challenge of Gender Based Violence in Kenya and the Response of the Church https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/challenge-gender-based-violence-kenya-and-response-church/ The Challenge of the Resurgence of Negative Aspects of African Cultural Practices Among Christians in Kenya https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/challenge-resurgence-negative-aspects-african-cultural-practices-among/ Global Impact: The Work of Service Not Power in the Anglican Church of Kenya with Rt Rev Dr Emily Onyango https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/global-impact-work-service-not-power-anglican-church-kenya-rt-rev-dr-emily-onyango/ Disclaimer : The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

This episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, interviews Mayra Ugalde who delves into the significant role women played in Paul's ministry and offers insights into commonly misunderstood biblical passages used to limit women's roles in church and society. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural context of scripture, the equality in Christ beyond gender, and the mutual submission in Christian marriage. Various translations of key texts like Ephesians 5 and Genesis 3:16 are compared to highlight biases and interpretations. The episode concludes with a call to read the Bible holistically to grasp its true message of equality and mutuality in Christ. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 00:35 The Importance of Bible Translations 02:53 Women in the Bible: Lessons from Mark 03:54 Jesus' Acceptance of Women's Offerings 08:01 Encouragement for Women in Ministry 09:38 Women as Witnesses and Apostles 15:40 Addressing Difficult Bible Passages 24:46 Equality in Christ 25:37 Phoebe and Women Leaders in the Early Church 28:42 Biblical Texts on Marriage and Mutual Submission 39:36 Interpreting Genesis 3:16 43:17 The Role of Sin and Grace in the Bible 46:21 The Church as a Demonstration of God's Kingdom 48:35 Conclusion and Call to Action   Related Resources Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-from-oppression-to-empowerment-women-in-scripture/ Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2 https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation/ Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3 https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/women-and-words-the-intersection-of-culture-and-bible-translation-part-3/   Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Carmen Joy Imes about the women of Exodus. Dr. Imes brings her deep knowledge of Exodus to the average Christian audience, explaining how the structure and literary parallels of Exodus to show how the women are the rescuers of Moses, who then rescues the Hebrews. She provides the details of the midwives’ spiritual work of saving lives. She demonstrates how Pharaoh’s daughter displayed God’s character as she sees Moses’ misery, heard his cry, and took pity on him. She explains the Hebrew that illustrates how Miriam took a stand at the river to address Pharaoh’s daughter just as Moses later took a stand to address Pharaoh. And she explains how Zipporah literally saved Moses’ life as he decided which people group he belonged. Amidst these detailed portrayals of the Exodus women, Dr. Imes also points out the narrator’s use of humor to depict the bumbling and nameless Pharaoh.    00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters  00:02 Exploring the Role of Zipporah in Exodus  01:04 Meet Dr. Carmen Joy IMEs  02:06 The Mystery of Exodus 4:24-25  03:26 Theological and Structural Significance of Zipporah  14:33 The Role of Women in the Early Chapters of Exodus  21:49 Elevating Women in Scripture  22:00 A Word from CBE  22:37 The Women of Exodus: Zipporah, Pua, and Shiphrah  22:52 The Story of Moses' Birth and the Women Who Saved Him  32:07 Moses' Identity and His Encounter with God  39:37 Closing Thoughts and Resources  41:20 Final Remarks and How to Stay Connected       Guest Bio   Dr. Carmen Joy Imes is associate professor of Old Testament at Talbot School of Theology, Biola University, in Southern California. She is the author of Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters, Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters, and the forthcoming Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters. Carmen has a YouTube channel where she releases weekly Torah Tuesday videos and you can find her writing on various websites, including Christianity Today, The Well, and The Politics of Scripture blog. Carmen is passionate about equipping the church to engage the Old Testament well and to see its relevance for the Christian life.    Find Dr. Carmen Imes at:    X: @carmenjoyimes  Bluesky: @carmenjoyimes.bsky.social  YouTube – Torah Tuesday: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6bwfe08fufzGaY2YImWQK12Ye7VX15X2  Resources Mentioned in the Interview:    Becoming God's Family: Why the Church Still Matters  Being God's Image: Why Creation Still Matters  Bearing God's Name: Why Sinai Still Matters  Every Woman’s Bible published by Tyndale    Other CBE Resources:    Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach Us About Freedom by Kelley Nikondeha.  “Rational and Emotional Faith” by Megan Greulich in Mutuality  “Who’s Who? Biblical Models of Women in Leadership” by Gracy Ying May in Priscilla Papers  “Black is Blessed: A Study of Black/African Women and Men in Scripture” by Catherine Clark Kroeger in Priscilla Papers  “Defiant: What the Women of Exodus Teach us about Freedom” by Mary Lou Wiley a Book Review on Defiant  Women in Scripture and Mission: Zipporah by Kimberly Dickson  Women in Scripture and Mission: Miriam by Kimberly Dickson  Women in Scritpure and History: Puah and Shiphrah by Kimberly Dickson      Disclaimer   The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, the focus is on the significance of Bible translation and its impact on women's lives worldwide, especially in Latin America. Special guest Maya Ugalde, honorary director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, shares her extensive experience in Bible publishing and distribution. The discussion covers the importance of diverse translation teams, avoiding biases, and the role of traditional translations in fostering a deeper connection with God.    00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters  01:19 Welcoming Our Esteemed Guest: Maya  02:48 The Importance of Diverse Translation Teams  05:49 Overcoming Bias in Bible Translations  10:38 Successful Bible Translations: A Global Perspective  16:42 The Role of Traditional Language in Bible Reading  28:46 The Spirit in the Text: Engaging with God's Word  31:00 Critical Thinking in Bible Translations  35:37 Conclusion and Future Discussions    Guest Bio  Mayra currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where she serves in different areas of the publishing, promoting, and distribution of the Bible all over Costa Rica for more of 43 years. Mayra also serves on the Publishing Committee for the United Bible Society where she participates in developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of the Bible for Latin American women that’s called The Women in the Bible and also a Bible for adult women that was called The Bible I Adore.    Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and a postgraduate degree in Bible. She publishes articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.         Related Resources  Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 Women and Words: The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2 How American Evangelicalism Has Been Weaponized Against Women IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt   Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

In this episode, Kim talks to Rev Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt about Mary Magdalene. She discusses the Biblical witness of Mary Magdalene, and what happened historically to Mary so that she came to be understood as a prostitute. She also discusses the meaning of Apostle and why the Eastern and Western churches remember Mary Magdalene as an apostle to the apostles.    Bio   Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt is the Franklin S. Dyrness professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Wheaton College. She is an award-winning author, fellow in the Royal Historical Society, and ordained teaching elder in the Presbyterian church. Her latest books are Know the Theologians (Zondervan, 2024), a finalist in the 2024 CT Book Awards for Popular Theology, and The Mary We Forgot (Brazos, 2024). She and her husband co-founded McNuttshell Ministries that seeks to serve as a bridge between the church and academy.    Find Rev, Dr Jennifer McNutt  Substack: The McNuttshell https://substack.com/@jenniferpowellmcnutt   Contact: https://jenniferpowellmcnutt.com  McNuttshell Ministries: https://mcnuttshellministries.com  Scripture References Woman identified as “Sinner Woman” that gets conflated with Mary Magdalene: Luke 7   Highlighting women with Jesus, part of his ministry, traveling with Jesus: Luke Chapter 8:1-3  Scriptural definition of Apostles: 1 Cor 15, 1 John 1,   Mary’s Message and Being Sent: John 20, Matthew 28, Luke 23-24, Acts 1  Other Resources Mentioned in Interview:   Scholars who have investigated Roman system of patronage: Lynn Cohick, Amy Brown Hughs, Susan Highland  CBE Resources:  Book Review of Jennifer Powell McNutt’s, The Mary We Forgot: What the Apostle to the Apostle Teaches the Church Today by Kimberly Dickson  Women in Scripture and History: Mary Magdalene by Kimberly Dickson  To learn about the Middle Eastern culture and its impact on the movements of men versus women and children, see: “God’s Word to Middle Eastern Women,” by Kevin Zabihi in Mutuality, October 20, 2021.  “Christ is Risen: The Nonsense of a Hysterical Woman,” by Chesna Hinkley in Mutuality April 15, 2020.  “Frequently Asked Questions about Mary Magdalene,” by Lidija Novakovic in Prisicilla Papers, June 5, 2006.  Disclaimer   The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.

This episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by CBE International, features an in-depth discussion with Mayra Ugalde, the Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica. Mayra shares her perspective on growing up in a Latin family with traditional gender roles and delves into the complexities of Bible translation. She emphasizes the importance of diverse translation teams to avoid bias and promote a holistic understanding of Scripture. The episode also touches on the historical and cultural contexts in biblical narratives and highlights the significant roles women have played in both the Old and New Testaments. Through shared expertise, listeners are encouraged to engage with the Bible personally and critically, guided by the Holy Spirit and informed by a community of believers.    00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters  01:29 Welcome and Guest Introduction  03:05 Complexities of Bible Translation  05:42 Diverse Perspectives in Translation  11:22 The Role of Commentaries in Bible Reading  14:38 Women and the Bible: Cultural Contexts  20:29 Women Leaders in Christianity  30:00 Boaz and Ruth: A Cultural Example  35:16 Conclusion and Future Episodes    Guest Bio  Mayra currently serves as Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, where she serves in different areas of the publishing, promoting, and distribution of the Bible all over Costa Rica for more of 43 years.  Mayra also serves on the Publishing Committee for the United Bible Society where she participates in developing and publishing different study Bibles and specifically in the developing of the Bible for Latin American women that’s called The Women in the Bible and also a Bible for adult women that was called The Bible I Adore.   Mayra has an MBA in Administration, and a postgraduate degree in Bible. She publishes articles in national newspapers and nowadays writes devotionals and blogs leading readers to interact with the Bible.        Related Resources  Women and Words: From Oppression to Empowerment with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1  How American Evangelicalism Has Been Weaponized Against Women  IJM’s Fight Against Gender-Based Violence in Latin America with Brad Twedt    Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE’s Mutuality Matters’ podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.