DBT & Me

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Rating
4.1
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138 reviews
This podcast has
197 episodes
Language
Explicit
Yes
Date created
2020/02/12
Latest episode
2026/01/28
Average duration
64 min.
Release period
20 days

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Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) was created by a woman named Marsha Linehan in the 1980s. The skills she created are now taught all over the world. DBT can improve depression, anxiety, borderline personality disorder, and other mental health struggles. We are Kate and Michelle, two mental health therapists in Seattle, WA. We have been teaching DBT groups as a team for years. Whether you've never heard of DBT before or are experienced with DBT skills, this podcast is here to help you use DBT skills in your daily life.

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Using DBT to Manage Conflict with Samuel Eshleman Latimer
2026/01/28
Michelle is joined by Samuel Eshleman Latimer to discuss how DBT skills can help us feel more confident with navigating conflict. Samuel talks about what conflict actually is, how emotions impact conflict, what his go-to DBT skills are during active conflict and how to get through conflict with difficult people. If you want to learn more about Samuel, check out his website (https://www.fosteringgrowthandcooperation.com/) and follow him on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/growthandcooperation/) Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Q & A Episode 72
2026/01/12
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about how to regulate emotions instead of suppressing them, managing anxiety about work, what to do when a provider violates your trust, and the impact chronic pain can have on relationships. Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Mega Q & A Episode 2
2025/12/31
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about what to do when you feel like you're at your breaking point, helping teens understand opposite action, managing obsessive thinking, feeling like no one cares, telling others no, resisting googling medical symptoms, disagreeing on values with a romantic partner, and practicing non-judgmentalness.  Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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DBT and Toxic Relationships with Kate Mageau
2025/11/26
Kate and Michelle are joined by author and therapist Kate Mageau to discuss her new book "Rose Colored Glasses". Kate reads an excerpt of her book and shares some of her own personal experiences with being in a toxic relationship. DBT skills are also discussed that can help those who are currently in toxic relationships and those who have recently left.  TRIGGER WARNING: Please note material that may be triggering is discussed from 29:00-30:10.  If you'd like to purchase "Rose Colored Glasses", you can find it on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Rose-Colored-Glasses-Kate-Mageau/dp/B0FT6PZ5JB If you'd like to learn more about Kate's work, you can check out her website here: https://www.katemageau.com/ Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Slash Horror, BPD and DBT with Zelda Eli
2025/10/29
Kate and Michelle are joined by Zelda Eli, author of "BPD: How Horror Genre Became My Borderline Therapy." Zelda openly shares her own history of mental health struggles and how far she's come since finding a therapist who was finally a good fit for her. She reads a chapter of her book aloud and speaks to the benefits that can come from engaging with horror content.  TRIGGER WARNING: Please note that content that may be triggering is discussed from 24:28-25:20. If you want to read more of the book, email Zelda at [email protected]. Put "Podcast" in the subject line of the email when you reach out.  You can also check out "The Mindful Path to Self-Compassion" here at this link: https://www.amazon.com/Mindful-Path-Self-Compassion-Yourself-Destructive/dp/1593859759  Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Want a 15% Discount on the Revised DBT Manuals? Listen to this!
2025/10/21
In this mini-episode, Kate and Michelle discuss the revised editions of the DBT Skills Training Manual and the accompanying DBT Skills Training Handouts and Worksheets (both by Marsha Linehan). They share their 15% discount code that is good on ALL Guildford Press books and discuss two other Guilford Press titles they recommend. Check out their book recommendations here:  Real Skills for Real Life - https://www.guilford.com/books/Real-Skills-for-Real-Life/Rizvi-Finkelstein/9781462555574 The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook - https://www.guilford.com/books/The-Mindful-Self-Compassion-Workbook/Neff-Germer/9781462526789 Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Episode Re-Do: ABC
2025/09/24
It's time for a re-do! When Kate and Michelle first recorded this episode, it was during COVID which resulted in poor sound quality as they adjusted to recording virtually.  In this special re-recorded episode, they explain the ABC skill all over again, offering new insights and perspectives that they didn't share 5 years ago when it was first recorded.  Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Q & A Episode 71
2025/09/15
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about feeling empty, feeling alone after a divorce, willfulness about using skills, and having a manager who acts out of alignment with your values.  To join Diana Partington's DBT for Life community, go to this link: https://www.dbtforlife.com/dbt-for-life-community Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Mega Q & A Episode 1
2025/08/27
Welcome to the first Mega Q & A episode where 8 listener questions are answered! Kate and Michelle answer questions about processing overwhelming emotions, irritability as a stay-at-home mom, taking a break from marijuana use, ruminating on previous conversations, coping with divorce, workplace trauma, practicing skills when not in a crisis, and if it's okay to learn DBT on your own.  Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Dialectical Examples in Real Life
2025/07/30
Kate and Michelle each share personal examples of how they have noticed dialectics in their own lives recently and how their personal examples can be applied more broadly to dialectics that many people may experience.  You can sign up for Diana's online DBT community by going to this link: https://www.dbtforlife.com/dbt-for-life-community Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Q & A Episode 70
2025/07/14
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about feeling afraid to be happy, determining when coping skills are helpful, using DBT for gaslighting, and accepting strong feelings even when skills are being used.  Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Using Skills We Struggle With
2025/06/25
Kate and Michelle are passionate about normalizing that there will inevitably be DBT skills that aren't a good fit for everyone and that you're not going to like every skill. In this episode, they each open up about 3 skills that they struggle to use and/or dislike. They went outside of their comfort zone to intentionally use each skill recently and they discuss what those experiences were like. They also share some suggestions for how you can successfully do the same in your own life with skills you struggle with.  TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 11:02-11:11 and 15:33-15:40. Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Revisiting Wise Mind
2025/05/28
Kate and Michelle share how they are currently using wise mind in their lives before discussing 3 updates they want to make to how they originally spoke about wise mind in episode 2. They end the episode by sharing 6 new ideas for how to find wise mind that they have not talked about before.  Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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Q & A Episode 69
2025/05/12
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about dealing with invalidation from others, positive attributes of DBT facilitators, conversations with family members who ignore boundaries, managing obsessive thoughts about health anxiety.  TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 24:00 to 25:17  Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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DBT and Limerence
2025/04/30
Kate and Michelle talk about limerence (the state of being infatuated or obsessed with another person) by answering a series of listener questions about the topic and discussing how DBT skills can help when this is being experienced. Magic Mind is a mental performance shot designed to help you maintain focus and reduce stress with less caffeine than a cup of coffee, B vitamins and other all natural ingredients. Use our promo code to get 48% off your first subscription OR 20% off a one-time order at https://www.magicmind.com/DBTAPR20 by using code DBTAPR20 (make sure to use all caps!) at checkout.  Support the show Want to get 15% off of ALL Guilford Press titles? Use this link (code is DBTME at checkout): https://www.guilford.com/dbtme If you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617 Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandme Our book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/ Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandme You can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcast Check out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O) If you need support/have questions, email us at [email protected]
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4.1 out of 5
138 reviews
BeckonWheels 2025/10/17
Incredibly helpful
This podcast has helped me so much!! I discovered it when I was going through an incredibly difficult time and the combination of humor and skills kep...
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Lammela 2025/04/30
Appreciate this podcast!
I love this podcast. It’s great for reinforcing the learning I’m doing in DBT. It also helps me feel less alone and helps me see how skills can be a...
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Lkrieb79 2025/06/25
Annoying hosts
Hosts are annoying. Too many verbal ticks, uptalk etc. more importantly They really demonstrate problematic therapy.
Petrichor478 2025/02/18
I love this podcast!
And only wish I had the idea to find a DBT podcast sooner. I saw other people’s reviews about the audio, but I haven’t noticed any issues for myself. ...
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DBTnewbie 2025/01/31
Makes the book make sense
I’ve recently completed DBT certification and I was getting so overwhelmed. I keep reading and re-reading ML’s manual and I’ve been having trouble pla...
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ndickenson 2024/03/02
Like “Being Home”
This podcast has been a godsend because I’ve been told DBT would be really good for me, but it is impossible to find anybody who accepts medical insur...
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nfrew 2024/05/27
Nervous laughter overshadows content slightly
The DBT content is great, but it is admittedly overshadowed by the unconscious nervous laughter that is expressed while answering listener questions o...
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Jln8675309 2023/10/25
I have learned so much!
I’m prefacing this with the fact that this is my 5th DBT podcast to start at the beginning and listen end to end. I listen to them while I exercise as...
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Chewy Chewcifer 2023/12/09
Great Content Poor Audio Quality
Absolutely wonderful podcast material, leaves you hanging on to every word they say. Audio quality sounds like it is coming from an omnidirectional mi...
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Bella2718 2023/09/28
Host is too loud!
I couldn’t even make it 10 min in and I had to turn it off. I was listening to the episode about emotional eating. The host Kate was so LOUD and kept ...
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