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In this season finale of Money Unmasked, Jonathan closes out the journey with a solo reflection on what this season actually uncovered beneath the surface of money, ambition, fear, and hope. From the opening kitchen table to the final conversation with Ain Bailey, this season has been about more than finances — it has been about identity, devotion, power, repair, and the future we are quietly building through our choices.   Jonathan reflects on the nine conversations that shaped the season, including the language and insight shared by Rahkim Sabree, Dr. Tiona Sykes, Meenadchi, Reni Eniola, Rita Zhang, Aja Chavez, Amity Paye, Tai Wiggins, and Ain Bailey. Each guest helped surface a different layer of the same question: what are we really after when we pursue money? Along the way, Jonathan names the stories he inherited, the fears he has been carrying, and the ways this season challenged him to rethink what it means to want more without losing himself.   Together with listeners, he revisits the season’s biggest threads: Money as identity, safety, and permission The role of fear, obligation, and guilt in financial decisions What it means to resist forgetting after making it Why money is not neutral, but deeply tied to systems, power, and choice How generosity, repair, and devotion shape the future we are practicing now The difference between chasing money and building a life that feels true   This finale is part confession, part closing statement, and part invitation. Jonathan speaks honestly about the resentment, fear, and self-protection that shaped his relationship with money, while also naming the deeper shift this season offered: the possibility of a more honest, generous, and expansive relationship with abundance.   If this season has been about unmasking money, this episode is about naming what was underneath all along.   🎧Listen to Previous Episode: What Are You Devoted To? Money, Imagination & the Future (with Ain Bailey)   Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In this episode of Money Unmasked, Jonathan sits down with Ain Bailey, founder of New Seneca Village and creator of We Outside, for a conversation about devotion, restoration, and what it really means to resource leadership for the future. Ain brings a powerful and expansive lens to money: one rooted in spirituality, collective care, nature, and the belief that money is simply a shared agreement about how resources move. Throughout the conversation, Ain shares how their work supports leaders in stepping out of urgency and into restoration, not as escape, but as preparation to engage the world more truthfully and with greater capacity. Jonathan and Ain explore: Why futurism is a sacred practice, not just a mindset How money can be used to preserve and expand life rather than extract from it The difference between hoarding resources and allowing money to flow What it means to practice giving, receiving, and reciprocity in real time Why restoration has to be foundational, not occasional, for sustained leadership How devotion shapes the future we are already creating through our choices The relationship between nature, imagination, and leadership that lasts Ain also opens up about their own money story — from fear around retirement and scarcity, to a more intentional practice of giving, trust, and moving money in alignment with their values. If you’ve ever wondered what it looks like to build a future worth having without burning yourself out in the present, this conversation will stay with you.   Connect with Ain Bailey: Connect on LinkedIn: Visit NewSenecaVillage.org  Listen to the We Outside Podcast  🎧Listen to Previous Episode: Reparations, Repair, and the Stories We Tell (with Amity Paye) Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In this episode of Money Unmasked, Jonathan sits down with Amity Paye — VP of Narrative Change at Liberation Ventures, the accelerator for the Black-led movement for racial repair and reparations in the United States — for the season's most expansive, systems-level conversation.   If this season has been about getting honest with what we're really pursuing when we pursue money, this episode zooms out to ask a bigger question: what would it mean for a whole society to pursue repair?   Amity brings her background as a journalist, labor organizer, racial justice communicator, and narrative strategist to break down what reparations actually means — far beyond the "just cut the check" framing that dominates the public conversation. She shares the international framework for reparations, the latest data on what's been distributed and where the movement stands, and what it means to build a genuine culture of repair.   Together, Jonathan and Amity explore:   What reparations actually includes beyond monetary payments The four components of reparations under international definitions What $41 million distributed tells us — and doesn't tell us — about progress How narrative change is as central to repair as policy change What the racial wealth gap looks like and why reparations may be the only effective way to close it What a "culture of repair" actually looks like in everyday life How storytelling shapes what people believe is possible — and impossible The connection between individual money stories and collective money systems   This is the episode that ties everything together — personal, relational, systemic, and historical. It belongs on your most important playlist.   Connect with Amity Paye: LiberationVentures.org    Resources Mention in the Show (If you purchase any of the books below I get a small commission): LiberationVentures.org    🎧Listen to Previous Episode: Money, Belonging, and the Cost of the “Right Things” (with Aja Chavez)   Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In this episode of Money Unmasked, Jonathan sits down with Aja Chavez for a raw, relatable conversation about class, identity, and the quiet pressure to have the "right things" — the right shoes, the right neighborhood, the right financial story — as a way of proving you belong. Aja's story spans class contrast, debt, the dopamine hit of spending, and the shame that follows. She talks openly about growing up with two very different sides of her family, the messages she absorbed about what money meant for safety and status, and how those early lessons shaped her adult relationship with spending, debt, and self-worth. Jonathan and Aja dig into: What it felt like to grow up navigating class difference within her own family How the pressure to have the "right things" shows up in everyday spending decisions Debt, guilt, and the cycle of spending as emotional regulation The shame of hiding purchases or financial choices from people you love What it looks like to start rewriting the story you inherited about money and belonging The difference between wanting things and needing to belong How class shapes what we think we deserve — and what we're afraid to ask for If you've ever bought something to feel okay, hidden a purchase out of shame, or wondered why financial advice never accounts for how lonely it is to not belong — this conversation is for you.   Connect with Aja Chavez: Connect with Aja on LinkedIn  🎧Listen to Previous Episode: Saying Yes to Abundance Without Selling Out (with Meenadchi)   Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In this episode 7 of our Money Unmasked series, Jonathan sits down with Meenadchi — author, healer, and practitioner of transformative and liberatory work — for one of the most spiritually expansive and deeply rooted conversations of the season.   Meenadchi challenges the idea that money is the enemy, reframing the real culprit as extraction — the economic logic that says some people's labor, land, and life can be taken without reciprocity or repair. Drawing on their background in collective care, ancestral wisdom, and community-rooted abundance, Meenadchi offers a different vision: one where resource, reciprocity, and joy coexist without requiring anyone to sell out their values or their people. Together, Jonathan and Meenadchi explore: The distinction between money and extraction — and why it matters What it means to say yes to abundance without compromising your integrity or your community How inherited narratives around scarcity, sacrifice, and survival shape what we feel entitled to have The spiritual and ancestral dimensions of our money stories What collective wealth and resource-sharing look like in practice The tension between wanting more and feeling guilty for wanting more How unconditional love and money can actually exist in the same sentence This is the conversation for anyone who has ever felt like wanting abundance was somehow a betrayal — of your roots, your politics, or your people. Connect with Meenadchi: Discover Your Money Magic: https://meenadchi.squarespace.com/discover-your-money-magic - A free, fun way to understand how healing your relationship with money will amplify your role in social change work. Email: [email protected]  Website: http://meenadchi.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meenadchi/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/with.meenadchi/  Purchase her book - Decolonizing Non-Violent Communication: https://co-conspirator.press/Decolonizing-Non-Violent-Communication     🎧Listen to Previous Episode: Financial Trauma, 835 Credit Scores & What Safety Really Means (with Rahkim Sabree)   Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In this episode of Money Unmasked, Jonathan sits down with Rahkim Sabree — financial therapist, speaker, cultural translator, and author of Overcoming Financial Trauma — to dig into the question underneath all of our money behavior: what are we really chasing when we chase financial security?   Rahkim unpacks how growing up without financial language, then landing in the banking industry, then becoming a certified financial coach shaped and reshaped his entire understanding of money. He shares what it felt like to hit an 835 credit score and still not feel safe — and why that gap between the number and the feeling is exactly where the real work begins.   Together, Jonathan and Rahkim explore: Why financial literacy alone cannot undo the harm that financial systems have caused What learned helplessness looks like in communities that have been failed by the system generation after generation How our childhood money moments — the Scholastic Book Fair, the store brand sneakers, the food stamps — live in our nervous systems long after we've "made it" Why a dysregulated person is a profitable one, and how corporations and advertisers bank on that The three E framework: Exposure, Experience, and Education — and why order matters What it looks like to begin healing financial trauma instead of just managing financial behavior How quantum theory, Dr. Resmaa Menakem, Dr. Joy DeGruy, and The Body Keeps the Score all informed Rahkim's approach If you've ever hit a financial milestone and still felt anxious, behind, or unsafe — this conversation will name what's happening and give you language for it.   Connect with Rahkim: Website: https://www.rahkimsabree.com/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RahkimSabree  Instagram: @RahkimSabree  Overcoming Financial Trauma by Rahkim Sabree   Resources Mentioned in the Show (I get a small commission when you purchase using my affiliate links): Overcoming Financial Trauma by Rahkim Sabree Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome by Dr. Joy DeGruy My Grandmother's Hands by Dr. Resmaa Menakem Becoming Supernatural by Dr. Joe Dispenza PowerNomics by Dr Claude Anderson The Body Keeps the Score by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk  The Debt Trap: The Hidden Brain Podcast    🎧Listen to Previous Episode: What Are You Willing to Trade for Freedom? (with Tai Wiggins)   Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In episode 5 of Money Unmasked, Jonathan sits down with Tai Wiggins, first-gen corporate leader, sales strategist, financial wellness educator, and founder of Debt Down Assets Up and First Gen Corporate, to explore the real tradeoffs that come with chasing money, stability, and freedom. Tai has coached hundreds of clients through debt payoff and financial resilience, but her own story is shaped just as much by layoffs, career pivots, and the pressure of navigating corporate spaces without a playbook.   Together, Jonathan and Tai unpack what it means to build a life where money is not just about survival, but about choice, confidence, and alignment. Tai shares how three layoffs between 2020 and 2024, including one during maternity leave, pushed her to rethink security, success, and what she actually values. They also talk about first-gen identity, the emotional toll of uncertainty, and why financial wellness is about much more than numbers on a spreadsheet.   In this conversation, they explore: Why Tai chose the volatile corporate tech path over a more stable government route How layoffs can shake your sense of identity, safety, and future planning What it means to be first-gen corporate and first-gen entrepreneurial at the same time The difference between financial literacy and emotional readiness How money can amplify who you already are instead of changing you Why freedom, not just income, is often the real pursuit underneath the paycheck What we’re willing to trade for security, peace, and a better life   If you’ve ever wondered whether the thing you’re chasing is actually money, or whether it’s freedom, this conversation will give you a lot to sit with. Tai brings honesty, warmth, and sharp insight to the question of what it really costs to build a life on your own terms.   Connect with Tai Wiggins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tainycole/ https://tainycole.gumroad.com/ https://tainyc.substack.com/   🎧Listen to Previous Episode: https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-wpr4q-1abcdbf    Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In episode 4 of our Money Unmasked series, Jonathan sits down with financial empowerment coach and educator rita zhang, founder of Community Roots Financials, to talk about money as something we feel in our bodies, hearts, and spirits—not just in our budgets and spreadsheets.   rita works with low‑income, immigrant, and communities of color, and she’s less interested in “perfect” financial literacy than in what it means for people to feel powerful, seen, and self‑determined in their financial lives. Together, she and Jonathan explore how stress, guilt, and anxiety around money are often coping responses to systems that were never designed with us in mind—and how slowing down to actually feel those emotions can become a deeply liberatory practice.   They get into: How rita went from racial and immigration justice organizing to financial empowerment coaching Why she thinks of her work less as “finance” and more as holding space for people’s wisdom to emerge The quiet courage it takes for working‑class and first‑gen folks to name what they truly want—not just what they need to survive How grind culture and capitalism convince us we’re “not doing enough,” even when we’re doing everything The idea of class straddlers: being the “bridge” generation between low‑income roots and a different material reality What it means to see yourself as one drop in the ocean and the whole ocean when it comes to healing, money, and lineage   If you’ve ever felt guilty for wanting more rest, more joy, or more “non‑essential” spending—or if you’ve felt behind because you don’t speak the language of traditional finance—this conversation offers a gentler, more honest way to think about money, power, and healing.   rita closes with an invitation rooted in self‑compassion: meet yourself exactly where you are, take one next step that feels possible, and let that be enough. Connect with rita zhang / Community Roots Financials: Website: https://www.communityrootsfinancials.com/  Community Roots Financials on Linkedin  Follow on Instagram: @communityrootsfinancials  Resources Mentioned in the Show (If you purchase any of the books below I get a small commission): Rest is Resistance: A Manifesto by Tricia Hersey Learn more about “Class Straddlers”   🎧Listen to Previous Episode: Redefining a "Good Life" at 30 (with Dr. Tiona Sykes)   Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In episode 3 of our Money Unmasked series, Jonathan sits down with licensed marriage and family therapist Dr. Tiona Sykes to unpack what happens when money, hustle culture, and our sense of worth all get tangled together. Tiona shares how growing up with the message that “nothing in life is free” shaped her belief that safety only comes from working multiple jobs and constantly grinding. Now 30 and in a season of employment transition, she reflects on what happens when that grind stops, the anxiety that surfaces, and how easy it is to feel like you’re failing even when your life looks “good” from the outside. Together, Jonathan and Dr. Sykes explore: How family stories (“you have to earn everything”) and hustle culture form our earliest money scripts The pressure to always be doing more, making more, and optimizing more—and how that erodes joy The guilt of wanting more when you were raised to “just be grateful” and not ask for too much What travel, community, and non‑U.S. cultures have taught them about money, happiness, and consumption The quiet grief and anxiety that show up around bills, debt, and time, even when the numbers technically “work” How to start redefining a “good life” at 30 in a way that honors your values, nervous system, and relationships—not just your bank account If you’ve ever looked at your life on paper and thought, “I should feel more secure than this,” or wondered what you’re actually chasing when you chase more money, this conversation will feel like exhaling with a friend who gets it. At the end, Jonathan and Tiona invite you to name your own story around enoughness and success: When you think about money right now, what emotions come up first? What would a “good life” at this stage actually look like for you? Connect with Dr. Tiona Sykes: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiona-sykeslmft/  Resources Mentioned in the Show (If you purchase any of the books below I get a small commission): Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel Here is the Emotions/Feelings Wheel 🎧Listen to Previous Episode: Building Wealth That Actually Feels Good (with Reni Eniola aka xoReni)   Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

In episode two of our Money UnMasked series, Jonathan sits down with financial educator and content creator Reni Eniola aka xoReni to talk about money, emotions, and building wealth in a way that actually feels good—not restrictive, shame-filled, or overwhelming. Reni bought her first house at 23 and has since become a trusted voice on financial literacy, career development, and “adulting” online. But beneath the milestones and the numbers, Reni is most interested in the emotional relationship we have with money—especially how childhood experiences quietly shape the way we save, spend, hustle, and dream as adults. Together, Jonathan and Reni explore: How her parents started teaching her about money at age four—and the stories that left an imprint What she thought money would give her when she bought her first house, and what it actually did Why so many of us think we have a “money problem” when what we really have is an emotional or identity story The tension between taking bold risks and having a financial safety net What people are really pursuing when they say they want “financial freedom” How to start relating to money from self-worth and self-compassion instead of fear and self-judgment If you’ve ever felt behind with money, ashamed of what you “should know by now,” or overwhelmed by all the rules and advice, this episode offers a gentler, more honest way to think about wealth, security, and the kind of life you want to build. At the end, Jonathan and Reni invite you to reflect on your own story: Money represents When I think about money, I feel Your answer might show you what you’re actually pursuing when you pursue money. Timestamps (Approx.) 0:00 – Intro & why this conversation matters in Money Unmasked 3:00 – Who Reni is and how she became “Reni the Resource” 7:00 – Learning about money at four years old: early lessons & family influence 13:00 – Buying a house at 23: what she hoped money would give her 20:00 – Emotions, identity, and why “just budget better” isn’t enough 28:00 – Financial risk vs. safety nets in entrepreneurship 36:00 – What people are really chasing when they chase financial freedom 44:00 – Practical ways to start healing your relationship with money 52:00 – Jonathan’s reflection & audience invitation Connect with Reni: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@xoReni  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/xoreni/  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@xoxoreni  Website: renitheresource.com Check out the Don’t Go Broke Collective Accountability Group Don’t Go Broke Trying Podcast:  Listen on Youtube or Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your pods  Resources Mentioned in the Show (If you purchase any of the books below I get a small commission): Rest is Resistance: A Manifesto by Tricia Hersey The Trauma of Money by Chantel Chapman The Debt Trap: The Hidden Brain Podcast  Everything but Money by Jessica Morehouse Steph & Den Free Budget Template  Money for Couples with Ramit Sethi I Will Teach You to Be Rich by Ramit Sethi 🎧Listen to Previous Episode: What Are We Really Pursuing When We Pursue Money Stay Connected: 📺Join our Community on Youtube 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter  👉🏾Buy me Ko-fi ☕️ 🔗All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲Follow us on Instagram  🕰️ Follow us on TikTok    Credits: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

Welcome to Highly Visible, A Little Misunderstood—where we explore life's most complex conversations with curiosity, vulnerability, and zero pressure to perform. In this season premiere, host Jonathan Dumas invites you into an intimate exploration of money that goes far beyond budgeting and financial literacy. What are we really pursuing when we pursue money? Is it freedom, safety, status, or something deeper? This season—Money Unmasked—explores the tension between needing money and not wanting money to define who we are. Through personal stories, reflections on childhood lessons, and four intentional lenses (Identity, Relationships, Values, and Society), Jonathan examines how money shapes our fears, our relationships, and our sense of worth. In this episode, you'll hear: Jonathan's reframing of poverty and enoughness through his brother Reggie's wisdom: "We aren't broke—we just don't have money right now." The unintended lessons about money he inherited from his mother's generosity Why money is spiritual, emotional, and deeply connected to our unconscious fears The moral tension of success: "If we make it, how do we refuse to forget the systems that kept others out?" An invitation to share your own relationship with money This is not a season of solutions. It's a season of questions—the kind you ask at your kitchen table late at night with people you trust. If you've ever felt conflicted about wanting more while fearing what that means about you, this season is for you. Complete the sentence in the comments: "Money represents ___" or "When I think about money, I feel ___" Your responses may appear anonymously in the season finale as we reflect on what shifted together. Timestamps 0:00 — Introduction, Team Updates & Welcome to Myron Bobrick Ozaki 1:30 — What This Season Is (And Isn't) 1:43 — The Guiding Question: What Are We Really Pursuing? 2:46 — Reggie's Wisdom: "We Aren't Broke, We Just Don't Have Money Right Now" 3:40 — Inherited Lessons: What His Mom Taught About Money 5:37 — Money Is Emotional, Not Neutral 11:13 — Four Lenses: Identity, Relationships, Values, Society 11:42 — The Big Questions Holding the Season 13:05 — Audience Prompt: "Money Represents " or "When I Think of Money, I Feel " 15:06 — Closing Question & Invitation 📬 Stay Connected: 📺 Join us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@HighlyVisiblePod 📬Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter: https://heyjonathandumas.com/hvlmpod 👉🏾 Buy me Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/highlyvisiblepod 🔗 All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📲 Instagram & TikTok: @highlyvisiblepod Production: Produced & Edited: Jonathan Dumas Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Socials & Community: Myron Bobyrk-Ozaki Email: [email protected]

What if joy isn’t a destination but something already living inside you? In this heartfelt and deeply grounding conversation, Jonathan sits down with tech leader, DEIB advocate, and proud mom Tamara Wall to explore joy through the lens of motherhood, legacy, and healing.   This is one of the conversations that never made it out during the Joy season—so bringing it to you now feels especially meaningful.   Tamara opens up about: • Motherhood as both healing ground and harvest • Breaking cycles and creating a different future for her children • Embracing Black joy as resistance • Finding joy even when grief or isolation try to take the lead • Teaching her kids that joy isn’t earned—it’s deserved   Jonathan reflects on his own upbringing, the legacy of joy passed down through his family, and the power of small moments that stay with us. There’s even a special moment featuring a voicemail from Jonathan’s mom that captures the heart of the entire episode: joy, love, and the quiet reminders that carry us forward.   If you’ve ever struggled to hold joy in a heavy season… If you’re a parent trying to raise kids with intention… If you’re healing your inner child… Or if you’ve simply forgotten that joy belongs to you— this conversation will meet you right where you are.   Joy is your birthright. Let this episode remind you of that.   💬 Join the Conversation! Finish the sentence: “Joy is…” Drop a comment or send a voice note → https://form.smartsuite.com/sszxz4mn/sxwLOAg7ur   🤝🏾 Connect with Tamara Wall • LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamarawall/ • Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/theerealtam    📚 Resources & Links Get Erased: What American Patriarchy Has Hidden from Us by Anna Malaika Tubbs → https://bookshop.org/a/79820/9781250876690 Rest is Resistance by Tricia Hersey → https://bookshop.org/a/79820/9780316365215   📬 Stay Connected: Join us on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@HighlyVisiblePod  Get updates, behind-the-scenes content, and first access to the upcoming newsletter: https://highlyvisiblepod.ck.page/684e1e911f Buy me Ko-fi: https://ko-fi.com/highlyvisiblepod Instagram: @HighlyVisiblePod All links → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod   🎛️ Production: Produced & Edited by: Jonathan Dumas (@highlyvisiblepod) Co-produced & Additional Editing by: Reggie Hall Email: [email protected]

📺 HELP US HIT OUR SEPTEMBER SUB GOAL ON YOUTUBE → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod  What is joy really—and how do we keep returning to it, even when life feels heavy? In this season finale of Highly Visible & A Little Misunderstood, Jonathan Dumas reflects on a whole season of On Joy—pulling together the most honest takeaways, tender moments, and practical tools from every guest. No fluff. No toxic positivity. Just real-life ways to practice joy in the middle of struggle, work, community, and everyday life. We revisit conversations with Brandon Howard on joy in the body, Amani Roberts on creativity as muscle, Abe Medoff on somatics, Mimi Gonzalez on grief and creativity, Jennice Chewlin on joy as strategy at work, Ashmi Patel on joy guilt, Tiffany LeNoir on belonging, Louis Byrd on solution-oriented peace, and Shauntelle Carnegie on “joy-stacking” when life feels heavy. Jonathan also shares his own confession—how he accidentally turned joy into a KPI—and what it took to re-learn joy as a practice, not a performance. ✨ What you’ll take away: The body-first question that helps joy stop hiding Why joy ≠ happiness (and how to tell the difference) Simple micro-practices to return to joy at home, at work, and in community A reframe: joy and struggle can coexist without guilt If you’re new here—start with these fan favorites: Tiffany: Quitting Wasn’t the Risk–Staying Was → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-talk-with-dumas-podcast/id1501526441?i=1000718924815  Abe: The Hidden Practice That Makes Joy Sustainable → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-talk-with-dumas-podcast/id1501526441?i=1000721049878  We revisit conversations with: Brandon Howard → Ep 91 | What If Joy Has Nothing to Do With the Scale? Ashmi Patel → Ep 92 | Joy Without Guilt: Unlearning Perfectionism & Generational Pressure Amani Roberts → Ep 93 | Fighting Fear, Doubt & Worry—And Creating Anyway Mimi Gonzalez, @griefsense → Ep 94 | Grief Isn’t the End—It’s the Remix Louis Byrd → Ep 97 | Finding Joy in the Mess and Fixing Problems That Shouldn’t Exist Shauntelle Carnegie → Ep 98 | “What If You’re Not Stuck—Just Scared?” Jennice Chewlin → Ep 99 | Joy at Work Isn’t a Perk—It’s a Strategy 💬 Join the Conversation What’s one small way joy has found you this season? Send a voice note → https://form.smartsuite.com/sszxz4mn/sxwLOAg7ur 🚨 Help us hit our YouTube sub goal (125 by end of September)! Tap the Linktree and subscribe on YouTube → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 📬 Click to Join our community + get free stickers → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod ☕️ Click to Support the show on Ko-fi → https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod Follow us for more: 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @HighlyVisiblePod 🎙️ All platforms: https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod   🎛️ Production Credits Produced & Edited by: Jonathan Dumas Co-Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Contact: [email protected]

📺 HELP US HIT OUR SUB GOAL BY SUBSCRIBING TO OUR YOUTUBE PAGE!  Joy isn’t a perk you earn at the end of your to-do list—it’s a practice you build in the middle of real life.  In this episode of Highly Visible & A Little Misunderstood, Jonathan sits down with Jennice Chewlin—Latina mom, workplace wellbeing strategist, and founder of Chewlin Group—to unpack why joy at work is not “toxic positivity,” but a strategy for connection, trust, and sustainable impact. We get into: how to stop confusing joy with happiness, why “design for joy, not just efficiency” changes meetings and morale, and what happens when leaders start small (think: human openers, meaningful celebrations, and collaborative “show & tell” lunches). Jennice shares the story of her dad biking across the border to med school—a masterclass in how struggle and joy can coexist—and we talk “mudita” (the joy we feel for someone else’s win), sport-as-reset (soccer/basketball), and how joy fuels collective healing and liberation without ignoring pain. If you’re a people leader, culture-builder, or just a burnt-out human trying to feel human again at work, this one’s for you. 💬 Join the Conversation 📝 Finish this: “Joy at work looks like ______.” Keep it concrete (who, where, when). Bonus points if you share the song you’ll play to kick it off. Drop a voice note if that’s easier → https://form.smartsuite.com/sszxz4mn/sxwLOAg7ur 🤝🏾 Connect with Jennice Chewlin LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennicechewlin  Website → https://www.chewlingroup.com/  Email → [email protected]  📚 Resources & Links Get Your Copy of The Lightmaker’s Manifesto   Rest is Resistance by Tricia Hersey   📺 Watch & Subscribe on Youtube → Hit subscribe for full video episodes, clips, and live chats. 📬 Click to Join our community + get free stickers ☕️ Click to Support the show on Ko-fi Follow us for more: 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @HighlyVisiblePod 🎙️ All platforms: https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod 🎛️ Production Credits Produced & Edited by: Jonathan Dumas Co-Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Contact: [email protected]

📺 HELP US HIT OUR SUB GOAL BY SUBSCRIBING TO OUR YOUTUBE PAGE!  What if you’re not stuck—just scared? In this episode of Highly Visible & A Little Misunderstood, I sit down with Shauntelle Carnegie—multi-creative, employee experience strategist, and founder of Black Girl Season—to talk about the role of joy when life feels heavy. Shauntelle opens up about navigating grief, breaking out of old narratives, and discovering that sometimes we’re not stuck at all—we’re just afraid to move. Together, we explore how humor, levity, and the small daily practices of care can create space for joy, even in the hardest seasons. We ask: ✨ What if joy isn’t linear—but layered, like survival itself? ✨ How do we find joy without guilt when life feels like too much? ✨ And how can humor become a form of healing? This conversation is tender, real, and a reminder that joy isn’t just a fleeting feeling—it’s a practice that sustains us. 🤝🏾 Connect with Shauntelle Carnegie Connect with Shauntelle on LinkedIn  Looking for a supportive community of Black women? Check out Black Girl Season on LinkedIn  📚 Resources & Links Check out Spill See where your favorite apples rank on Apple Rankings  Follow us for more: 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @HighlyVisiblePod 🎙️ All platforms: https://linktr.ee/highlyvisiblepod   🎛️ Production Credits Produced & Edited by: Jonathan Dumas Co-Produced & Additional Editing: Reggie Hall Contact: [email protected]