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Sometimes, the most powerful research doesn’t start in a lab — it begins through lived experience. Today, we meet Mia Cahill, whose journey into the research space started in a deeply personal way. Born in Ireland with gastroschisis, she grew up understanding what it means to fight for a start in life. That experience shaped not only who she became, but how she now connects with other families walking a similar path. Through her work, Mia has dedicated her research to supporting parents of sick or premature babies — helping them find hope, comfort, and strength in the toughest of moments. She reminds us that what we can offer someone in a moment of crisis can make all the difference — that sometimes, it’s the smallest gestures that carry families through. As she puts it, parents will remember more than their NICU babies ever will. The weight of that journey can stay with us far longer than the NICU stay itself. So, don’t put too much pressure on yourself. You’re in this for the long haul — to keep showing up, even years down the track. Because a life is so much longer than a single NICU journey. A life-defining start doesn’t have to be the life‑defining moment.

In today’s episode, we meet Wayne Ratajczak — a then first-time dad whose daughter Emily spent 12 weeks in the NICU. For Wayne, skin-to-skin care wasn’t just bonding time; it became a vital part of Emily’s development and his connection with her. The more he held her, the more he saw how important that closeness was and how stable she became.  Inside the NICU, Wayne took on everything he could and did as much of Emily’s cares as he could. Fortunately for him, his workplace was incredibly supportive, giving him the chance to spend as much time in the hospital as possible. During those 12 weeks, life outside the NICU completely faded away. Friends and family struggled to understand just how consuming that world can be. But for Wayne, the sense of community within the NICU made all the difference — especially connecting with other dads who truly “got it.” In our chat, Wayne opens up about the emotional challenges of trying not to compare other babies, learning instead to celebrate Emily’s own milestones and journey.  Wayne also reflects on life after the NICU — the hesitation around having another child, and how the entire experience changed him as a dad and as a person.

Today, we talk about why routine matters. Why healthy habits matter, and how easy it is to slip into bad patterns when everything feels out of control. In this episode, I speak with Michael Winwood, a dad who had two weeks’ notice that something wasn’t right — just enough time to feel the fear, but not enough time to prepare for what was coming. While his baby was in the NICU, Michael was also juggling life with a two-year-old at home. Like many dads, he felt invisible at first — unsure of his role, unsure of the support available to him. That shifted when he began advocating for clearer routines, defining what his role was, and trying to find something that felt close to “standard operating procedures” in all of the chaos. Michael also shares how his background in the defence force — and how having existing touch points with psychology support for his PTSD — helped him stay mentally steady during the NICU journey. He reflects on the value of human connection, healthy distractions, and staying engaged with people around him. This is an honest conversation. No filters. No clichés. Just one dad sharing his story so other dads know they’re not alone.

We start this episode with a Trigger warning, as there are discussions of loss and miscarriage.  Today, we meet two-time NICU mum, Megan Norbury — a proud NICU parent who has turned her lived experience into a mission to support other families on their own NICU journeys. With a background in early childhood education, Megan knows first-hand the feelings of isolation that can come with life in the NICU. Those experiences sparked her passion to help others, leading her to join Miracle Babies Foundation as a facilitator and Team Leader of Nurture Time and Nurture Groups. Ten years on, she’s still making a difference for families experiencing the NICU. In this insightful conversation, we talk about the vital role dads play in the NICU — how they can best support mums, and what families really need during such an intense time. Megan also shares more about the incredible work Miracle Babies does, from peer support programs to national advocacy for issues like paid parental leave and funding for extended NICU care. Megan talks with such empathy and wisdom, discussing her lived experiences and providing many practical takeaways for anyone currently on a NICU journey — or a family member or friend supporting someone who is on a NICU journey. FB & IG: @Miraclebabiesfoundation

TRIGGER WARNING Today’s conversation contains discussions of infant loss. In this very special episode, we’ll be joined by Joanne and Scott Beedie— two truly remarkable parents who open up and share the deeply personal story of losing one of their twins to Twin-to-Twin Transfusion Syndrome. This conversation is incredibly raw and emotional, as we explore what it means to balance hope and heartbreak, and how they navigated the NICU journey together while staying connected as a couple. We’ll also talk about the vital role of social worker support and the strength that comes from leaning on each other through every challenge. But this story isn’t only about loss — it’s also about love, resilience, and purpose. Out of their experience, Joanne and Scott went on to create an incredible charity in Western Australia called Helping Little Hands, dedicated to supporting NICU families across the state. You’ll hear about the amazing work this organisation is doing for families just like theirs — and stick around till the end, because we have a very special guest joining us to round out this heartfelt episode. So take a deep breath, settle in, and let’s begin. IG: @helpinglittlehands_australia FB: @helpinglittlehandsAustralia Li: @helping little hands

In our last episode, we explored the world of psychology — and today, we’re taking the next step into social work, uncovering the vital role social workers play in the NICU, and trying to remove the stigma that surrounds social work.  Social workers are often the one constant presence for parents during their NICU journey — a steady voice through some of the toughest and most emotional days. In some hospitals, they’re automatically referred when a baby is born before 32 weeks, ensuring families have support right from the start, but they are certainly accessible for all parents along their journey.  Joining us today is Clare Dimer, a Senior Social Worker, who shares how families can celebrate the little wins, milestones, and precious moments — by getting hands-on in their baby’s care and journaling each step along the way. Clare also walks us through the signs social workers look for when a parent might need extra help — from the subtle cues that surface after a triggering event, to the emotional shift many families experience around the 8 to 10-week mark in the NICU journey.

Clinical psychology plays a vital role in helping families navigate the ups and downs of the NICU journey. For many dads, those first moments can be overwhelming — seeing their baby hooked up to machines, monitors, and tubes often looks nothing like the picture they had in mind. Today, we’re joined by Clinical Psychologist Fiona Mann, who reminds dads just how important their presence and involvement really is along the NICU journey.  Fiona takes us inside the NICU experience from a father’s mental health perspective — unpacking what those critical first 48 hours can feel like, when and how to ask for support, and the very normal fears that surface both beside the incubator and once families head home. She also reveals how she works alongside medical teams, why dads often fly under the radar, and the simple, powerful ways fathers can bond with their babies, speak up about how they like information shared, and accept help without feeling like an extra burden.

Meet Connor McGoverne and hear about his amazing son, Finley. Connor is a political reporter and TV journalist who’s used to asking all the tough questions, but when he learns his unborn son has been diagnosed with a very rare condition, the story becomes very complex. While Connor and his partner Jamie’s first baby arrived according to plan, Finley’s journey introduced the word “gastroschisis” into their lives, followed by weeks of agonising waiting between diagnosis and delivery and late-night Google searches that kept serving up worst-case scenarios.  Gastroschisis impacts 3 in 10,000 births. A stark contrast to premature births in Australia, which is close to 1 in 10.  Connor opens up about his NICU experience, sharing the moment Mum and bub were separated across two hospitals for emergency surgery, leaving him torn by a brutal dilemma: “Where do I go as the dad?” Hear from Connor as he discusses the guilt of returning to work while his baby was in intensive care, the pressure of being present for a young child at home, and how he now uses his voice as an ambassador for Miracle Babies to support other families facing gastroschisis and complex NICU journeys. 

No better way to celebrate your son's first birthday than to release a podcast episode! Today, we chat with Daniel Dyer-Smith, who walks us through the shock of being on a beach one minute, then 60min later having a son at 30 weeks.  As a Lawyer, skilled in articulating precise messages and information, Daniel found it very difficult to find the right words to describe to friends and family what had transpired, and what help he and his partner needed in the first few weeks. Daniel's insights will help shape the NICU Dads project at the Kids, and the pearls of wisdom he shared focused on the message to "advocate and communicate", both internally within your immediate family and the NICU, and externally with your wider family and friendship group. 

In today's episode, we hear from two-time NICU Dad, Kabe Redfern. Kabe walks us through the difficulties in processing the first 24 hours of NICU life, as well as the thoughts of trying again for a second child following such a traumatic first experience.  Kabe is passionate about helping other Dad's going through their NICU journey, and he opens up and shares his insights on how Dad's can support each other, as well as sharing some personal tips and tricks on how to care for yourself in some very difficult situations - as well as what journey #2 looks like, implementing learnings from journey #1.  Kabe has continued his passion for helping others, and now champions support for NICU Dad's as a member of several advisory boards, advisory groups, as well as being a Consumer Academic at the Kids Research Institute Australia - a far cry from his normal 9-5 career in emergency services. 

In our first episode of Season 2, brought to you by the Kids Research Institute Australia and the Embrace Program, we are joined by Dr Vincent Mancini.  Dr Mancini is a Perth-based Senior Research Fellow with a PhD in Clinical Psychology, leading research at the intersection of masculinity, fatherhood, and children’s health and wellbeing. He is driven by the belief that every child deserves the opportunity to thrive, and that fathers and male caregivers play a pivotal role in shaping this potential. His work explores how fathers and father figures influence child development, how work and family dynamics shape wellbeing, and the complex challenges faced by boys and young men. He has expertise across areas including fatherhood science, perinatal mental health in fathers, parent emotion regulation, Fly-In-Fly-Out (FIFO) work, men’s mental health, suicide prevention, grief and bereavement, mediation and conflict resolution, child maltreatment, children's neurodiversity, young men’s engagement in sport gambling, and the prevention of gender-based violence. Dr Mancini's team at the Kids is leading the charge in shaping a new support initiative called NICU Dads, and today we discuss the importance of his work and how he is shaping the future of support for Dads on their NICU journey. 

Dads of the NICU is back! After a long wait, Matt is back sharing stories and reflections, with the support of the Kids Research Institute in Perth and our great partners in EMBRACE.  As I launch the new series today, on World Prematurity Day, I am very excited to introduce Dr Vincent Mancini from The Kids and his colleague Jack Boronovskis, who produces The Kids Research Institute’s mental health podcast, Embracing the Mind. I’ll be linking up with Vincent and Jack at the Perth Children’s Hospital, where we will be talking to dads with lived experience of the NICU, and clinicians providing care to families.  Over the coming months, I will share the interviews with the Dad's, as well as some key personnel at the Kids who work directly with Dads on a daily basis. 

Having gone through 98 days in the NICU with our daughter Lara, the thought of trying again for baby #2 was far from my thought processes. It was going to take some time for the mental wounds to heal from our experience, and I started to question if I could go through it all again. I was so focused on the negative outcomes that I did not give any hope or attention to positive outcomes for months. But after a while, I knew I wanted to try again, and that I wanted our family to grow.   After some healthy discussions with my wife - we were ready. But would our journey be the same the second time round? 

I am back!  After a two year break to focus on family and work, I am back on the mic to bring you my next NICU adventure! Our son Cooper was born at 26 weeks in February 2022, and we are right back where it all began in the same NICU, precisely 2 yeas and 4 days since Lara was discharged.  In that time, we unfortunately lost our dear son Leo at birth at 18 weeks, but we re-grouped, and knew that our story had not been fully written. So - join me on my next NICU adventure! 

The only thing harder than spending 115 days in the NICU for Brodie James will be his next Ironman race.   Brodie was able to turn to his training regime to keep a clear mind and a positive outlook during his NICU journey, which enabled him to support his wife and new son as best as possible, and be the rock and Ironman in the NICU.  We discuss the highs and lows of his time in the NICU, and what life is like now his new little mate is finally at home, and what he is looking forward to the most over the next 12 months.