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The Saints flew across an ocean to embarrass themselves in a different language. After a 16-10 loss to the Steelers the Black & Gold are 2-5. Pittsburgh sports fan and writer for the The Athletic Sean Gentille joins Charles to talk too much about the Pirates and Pitt but we do get around to football. Charles and Ron talk separately about the game and the disastrous season. Find Sean at: The Athletic articles: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/author/sean-gentille/ The Athletic Hockey Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-athletic-hockey-show/id1546282862 Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/seangentille.bsky.social Charles Star bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social Sound engineering by Snxwyfish https://snxwyfish.bandcamp.com/

Another brutal week for the Saints; another home loss. Ron is scoping out new teams and Charles is going through the five stages of grief. Arif Hasan returns wearing the partisan purple of the Vikings instead of the neutral shades of the draft expert. Find Arif at: Norse Code: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/norse-code-the-1-podcast-for-your-minnesota-vikings/ All Ball: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-ball/id1525039108 Wide Left: https://wideleft.football/ Charles Star bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social Arif Hasan https://bsky.app/profile/arif.bsky.social Sound engineering by Snxwyfish snxwyfish.bandcamp.com/

The Saints lose badly to the Falcons. Nothing good can come of this. Ron is losing faith and Charles is calling in from a tin can again. Jason Kirk is ready to laugh. Shutdown Fullcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shutdown-fullcast/id738433869 Until Saturday: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/tag/until-saturday/ Charles Star https://bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico https://bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social Jason Kirk https://bsky.app/profile/jasonkirk.fyi Sound engineering by Snxwyfish https://snxwyfish.bandcamp.com/

Sad horns start the episode as the Saints fritter away a 12-point third quarter lead and fall to the Raiders in the home opener. Ron and Charles are staying positive and our Man in the Dome, Skooks, reports that the vibes are still really good despite the late collapse. Unclear if that will survive a loss to Atlanta as the RB and LB corps both are riddled with injuries.

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Charles and Ron are back and surprisingly ok with a close week 1 loss with a lot to recommend it. A.R. Moxon, author of the novel The Revisionaries, the essay collections Very Fine People and Fighting in the Dark and the newsletter The Reframe joins Charles to talk about the futility of Lions fandom and how not to get a publisher. Links to all of Goat's work can be found at https://www.armoxon.com/ Charles Star https://bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico https://bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social A.R. Moxon https://bsky.app/profile/juliusgoat.bsky.social Thanks to Jane for the sound engineering. Follow her at https://bsky.app/profile/marykultra.bsky.social and check out her creative collective at https://www.patreon.com/cw/edenlabrys.

The Saints are back so Charles and L. Ron are back too. They are trying to be enthusiastic as a new team emerges... and then returns to the blue tent.

Charles Star and L. Ron Mexico (kind of) are back! Charles talks with Arif Hasan (NFL Draft expert and podcaster (60 Minute Drill and Norse Code) and writer (Wide Left)) about the Saints' draft (which he loves). Arif is a little less enthusiastic but he thinks it's pretty good. Charles and Ron do get to talk a little to welcome Cam back to New Orleans. Subscribe to Arif's Wide Left newsletter and Norse Code at https://wideleft.football/. You can find 60 Minute Driill at https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/60-minute-drill--6293245. Our engineer is no longer child labor! Listen to Snxwyfish at https://snxwyfish.bandcamp.com/ and support his college recreation. Charles Star https://bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico https://bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social Arif Hasan https://bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social

The Saints closed out the season with a 19-17 loss to the Falcons but Charles and Ron are thrilled. A loss got the team everything it wanted except another win over the Falcons. Wrapping up a fun season and looking ahead. Our sound engineer Snxwyfish's music is available at linktr.ee/Snxwyfish Socials: Charles Star - bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico - bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social

Four wins in a row by the Saints, 34-26 over the Titans on the road this week, but it barely compares to our guest, the lovely Jesse Farrar of Your Kickstarter Sucks and The Go Off Kings. You can support Jesse via the YKS Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cw/yourkickstartersucks or the Go Off Kings Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/gooffkings. Or you could listen to YKS too. https://podbay.fm/p/your-kickstarter-sucks Our soundn engineer Snxwyfish's music is available at linktr.ee/Snxwyfish Socials: Charles Star - https://bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico - https://bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social Jesse Farrar - https://bsky.app/profile/jessefarrar.com

Three game winning streak! Skooks stops by to talk about the last two home wins but mostly L. Ron and Charles get psyched for the future after a 29-6 win over the Jets. Merry Christmas, everyone. Charles Star bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social Skooks bsky.app/profile/skookses.bsky.social

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Charles and Ron get stupid after a frustrating game with two very different halves in a 21-17 loss to Miami. We get our own ass bceause we don't have a guest.

The Saints go down hard again, 24-10 to the Falcons. Ron and Charles are losing faith in Kellen Moore. Jason Kirk stops by to get our ass. Skooks is resigned but will keep showing up and taught Charles about merliton. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Join the Shutdown Fullcast Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/cw/ShutdownFullcast and Hell is a World Without You remains a great read. https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/p/novel Charles Star bsky.app/profile/ugarles.bsky.social L. Ron Mexico bsky.app/profile/lronmexico.bsky.social Jason Kirk bsky.app/profile/jasonkirk.fyi Skooks bsky.app/profile/skookses.bsky.social