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Lisa DiGeso, The Milky WayExplicit
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Date created
2020/03/12
Latest episode
2026/06/03
Average duration
15 min.
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7 days
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Welcome to the Art and Soul Show where we dive heart-opening chats on photography, business, life and that messy in-between. You're more than a photographer. You're an artist, a dreamer, a business boss, and a creative. Listen in for conversations and advice on running a photography business, mindset, and creativity. This is the place you can go when you need a boost of encouragement, a kick in the pants, and inspiration to pick up your camera.
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When Your Favourite Clients Move On (And It Feels Personal)
2026/06/03
"This isn't rejection. This is growth."
Losing a client you love hurts in a way nobody warns you about. Not the random inquiry that ghosts you, but those early families. The ones who gave you a chance when you were still figuring out manual mode, cheered you on, brought you their babies, and told everyone how wonderful you were. And then one day you're scrolling, and there they are, tagged in someone else's sneak peek.
In this episode, I'm talking about that gut punch and why it feels so personal, even when it isn't. I'm sharing the perspective shift that saved me and why the clients who move on aren't proof that your best wasn't good enough. They're proof you've grown past where you started.
By the end of this one, you'll see those early families differently. Not as people who left, but as the ones who helped build the foundation you're standing on right now.
What's in this episode:
[00:01:00] Those early clients who believed in you from the beginning
[00:01:30] The stomach drop of seeing them tagged in someone else's feed
[00:02:00] Why it feels like rejection and not just a lost booking
[00:02:30] The first time it happened to me, and what I felt
[00:03:00] The hard truth about who we start with and who we grow with
[00:04:30] The perspective shift that changed everything
[00:06:30] The moment I clicked through the photos like I was inspecting evidence
[00:07:00] How to see those families as proof of growth, not failure
If you've ever had a favourite client show up in another photographer's feed and felt that sting deep in your chest, this episode is going to feel like exactly what you needed to hear.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
The Fear of Irrelevance
2026/05/27
"Trends burn fast. But timeless work lasts."
There's a fear most photographers carry around but rarely say out loud. It's not just fear of competition or a slow season. It's deeper and sneakier than that. It's the fear of irrelevance. That whisper at midnight when you're scrolling Instagram, wondering if your best days are already behind you.
In this episode, I'm getting honest about all the ways this fear shows up. The new photographer in town who's suddenly booked solid. The longtime client who books someone else's minis. The trend cycle that makes you question whether your style is outdated before you've even had your morning coffee. And I'm redefining what relevance actually means, because it has nothing to do with likes, presets, or algorithms.
This episode will leave you remembering why the work you do matters and why no new trend, no cheaper photographer, and no viral reel can take that away from you.
What's in this episode:
[00:00:30] The fear of irrelevance and why we rarely name it
[00:01:00] When a new photographer in town triggers the spiral
[00:01:30] Longtime clients, trend cycles, and the midnight scroll
[00:02:30] Why the fear of irrelevance is really about belonging
[00:03:30] Why chasing trends puts your voice at risk
[00:04:30] Redefining relevance as impact, not popularity
[00:06:00] A little humor break because sometimes we need to laugh at ourselves
[00:07:00] What you need to remember the next time the fear creeps in
If you've ever declared yourself irrelevant because a reel flopped or a new photographer got all the hype, this one is going to feel like a deep exhale.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
Audacious vs. Audacity
2026/05/20
Every single time I've chosen to quiet that audacity voice and lean into my audacious side, my life has expanded."
Two words. They look almost identical on paper, but they feel completely different when you say them out loud. Audacious is bold, brave, and full of possibility. Audacity is the sting, the who do you think you are, the voice that shows up the second you start to dream a little bigger.
In this episode, I’m breaking down the battle between these two voices and how to recognize which one is actually running the show. I share what it looks like to catch that shift in real time, how to check in with your body as a signal, and why the audacity voice doesn't disappear but stops being the loudest one in the room.
You'll walk away with a whole new way of listening to yourself and a reminder that the world needs more audacious people, not fewer.
What's in this episode:
[00:00:30] The difference between audacious and audacity
[00:02:00] The moment the spark gets squashed by self doubt
[00:03:00] What happened when Lisa let the audacity voice win
[00:03:30] What leaning into your audacious side actually looks like
[00:04:00] Using softness and humor to quiet the inner critic
[00:04:30] How your body tells you which voice is speaking
[00:05:00] Recognizing when the voice isn't even yours
[00:05:30] Building proof that you can trust yourself, one step at a time
If there's a dream you keep talking yourself out of, this episode will help you figure out which voice has been holding the microphone and how to hand it back to the right one.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
You’ll Never Feel Ready, Because Ready Isn’t a Feeling, it's a Decision
2026/05/13
"You are never going to feel ready, because ready isn't a feeling. It's a decision."
That one hit me like a ton of bricks the first time I heard it. Because how much of our lives do we spend waiting? Waiting for clarity, for confidence, for the perfect moment that never actually comes.
In this episode, I'm sharing why that feeling of readiness is a myth and what actually moves the needle. From the 200mm lens that sat untouched on my desk for six months to launching Milky Way when I had absolutely no idea what I was doing, the decision always came first. The confidence came after.
You'll walk away with a new way of thinking about every idea, offer, or risk you've been putting off, and hopefully a little nudge to stop waiting and just decide.
What’s in this episode:
[00:00:30] The tug of war between waiting and doing [00:01:00] Why ready isn't a feeling, it's a decision [00:01:30] The 200mm lens that sat untouched for six months [00:02:30] Waiting for proof that will never come [00:03:30] How Milk and Honey and the Milky Way started before Lisa felt ready[00:04:30] How fear disguises itself as logic and responsibility [00:05:00] What the world misses when you keep waiting [00:05:30] Action builds confidence, decisions build momentum [00:06:00] Your challenge: decide today, not because you're ready, but because you chose to beIf you've been waiting for that magical moment when it finally feels right, this episode is your permission slip to stop waiting and start deciding.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
Idea Graveyard
2026/05/06
"The idea graveyard isn't proof of my failure. It is proof that I am alive and creative."
Every creative has one. The half-finished projects, the abandoned plans, the supplies still in the bin with the tags on. We just don't talk about it.
In this episode, Lisa gets honest about her own graveyard, the costumes, the felting disaster of 2021, and the shed full of marketplace furniture, and flips the script on what it all actually means. You'll walk away seeing your unfinished ideas not as proof you're flaky, but as memorials to your curiosity and every time you had the courage to ask what if.
What’s in this episode:
[00:00:30] What the idea graveyard is and why we all have one [00:01:00] Lisa's costumes, the felting disaster of 202, and the shed [00:02:30] The shame spiral that comes with an idea graveyard [00:03:00] Why your graveyard is evidence of growth, not failure [00:03:30] What abandoned ideas actually teach us [00:04:30] Reframing unfinished projects as memorials, not mistakes [00:05:00] When it's okay to let an idea rest in peace [00:06:00] Why creators have more ideas than they'll ever execute [00:07:00] The challenge: stop hiding your graveyard and honor itIf you've ever walked past an unfinished project and felt that little sting of you never follow through, this episode is going to feel like a deep breath.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
When Fear of Fear Holds You Back
2026/04/29
"It's not just fear itself. It's actually the fear of fear."
That second layer is the one that keeps so many of us stuck. It's not the dials or the studio lights or the pose or the price increase that's really scary. It's the anticipation of feeling incompetent, embarrassed, or out of control that has us avoiding, procrastinating, and telling ourselves we'll try it later.
In this episode, I'm getting honest about all the ways fear of fear shows up in photography: from leaving studio lights in the corner to holding back from raising your prices to never hitting record on a video. I'm even sharing my ongoing standoff with a Wacom pen I've bought three times and still haven't fully committed to. And I'm walking you through three simple steps to start moving through it instead of around it.
What’s in this episode:
[00:00:30] What fear of fear actually is [00:01:00] How it shows up with learning manual mode [00:01:30] Studio lights sitting in the corner collecting dust [00:02:30] My Wacom pen confession (yes, I've bought three) [00:03:30] How fear of fear sneaks into your sessions [00:04:30] Business decisions frozen by fear of one awkward moment[00:05:30] Visibility, critique, and why we don't hit record [00:06:30] Why failing is part of mastery [00:07:30] Three ways to start moving through itIf you've been sitting on an idea, a skill, or a business decision because something about it just feels too risky, this episode is your nudge.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
Is Over Delivering Actually Overcompensating Because You Are Scared ? … Because Same
2026/04/22
“Is overdelivering actually just overcompensating because you’re scared?”
That thought struck me because sometimes the urge to give more and more isn’t just generosity, it’s fear. Fear of not being enough, fear of disappointing clients, fear of rejection.
In this episode, I’m unpacking the tension between generosity and overcompensation. I’m sharing how I’ve learned to find the sweet spot where giving feels joyful, not draining and why believing your work and presence are enough might be the most generous gift of all.
What’s in this episode:
[00:35] Why overdelivering isn’t always generosity[01:45] How fear sneaks in and moves the bar higher and higher[03:00] What clients actually want (hint: not hundreds of images)[04:15] The endless loop of overdelivering and exhaustion[05:45] Experiments with setting limits and boundaries[07:20] Learning to sit with “enough” and trust your art[08:00] Why generosity rooted in fear isn’t generosity at allIf you’ve ever felt caught in the loop of ‘more, more, more,’ this episode is a reminder that your art, your presence, and your energy are already enough
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
This Contest Taught Me My Highest Value
2026/04/15
“Sometimes losing is exactly what reveals your highest value.”
There was a time when a simple Facebook cover contest left me devastated. I wanted the win, the validation, the proof that I belonged. But when the results came in and I realized the winning photographer had bought likes, something unexpected happened. I discovered the deeper truth about what I value most in my business and in myself.
In this episode, I share the story that taught me my highest value and why integrity has outlasted every trend, contest, and moment of comparison. You will hear how this experience reshaped the way I measure success, why shortcuts never build long-term businesses, and how knowing your highest value can anchor you in every season of entrepreneurship.
What’s in this episode:
[00:35] The Facebook photography contest that sent me spiraling
[01:45] Why the competition loss hurt more than I expected
[04:25] The invisible contests photographers compete in every day
[05:10] Why shortcuts never build sustainable success
[06:00] Understanding what your highest value really is
[07:30] Reframing losing and defining success on your own terms
Integrity will carry your business farther than any contest, trend, or temporary win. When you root your work in what you value most, you build something no one can take from you.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
When Easy Feels Uncomfortable: Untangling the Belief That Working Harder = Success
2026/04/08
“What if business feels easy and instead of celebrating it, you feel uncomfortable?”
So many of us carry the belief that the harder we work, the more successful we’ll be. We believe that worth equals hours, and that struggle is proof we’ve earned our success. But what if that’s not true?
In this episode, I’m unpacking the belief that success has to come from hard work and hustle. I’m even sharing how I’m learning to celebrate ease as a sign of growth and mastery, not something to feel guilty about, and why letting things feel light might actually be the goal.
What’s in this episode:
[00:30] Why “easy” can feel uncomfortable[01:00] How we tie worth to hours and effort[01:45] The editing example that revealed Lisa’s belief about value[02:20] Why clients don’t care how long editing takes.[03:00] When ease turns into self-sabotage[03:45] Rewriting the story that struggle = success[04:40] Celebrating ease as masteryEase doesn’t mean you’re lazy. It means you’ve grown into the kind of artist who can create with confidence and flow.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
My Math Isn't Your Own Math
2026/04/01
“My math is not your own math.”
Every photographer has been told what they should charge, how they should structure their packages, and which business model is the only “real” or “professional” one. And for many of us, those formulas feel more like pressure than clarity.
In this episode, I’m sharing the hard truth I learned the long way: your math is not supposed to look like anyone else’s. Your expenses, your goals, your energy, and your definition of success are completely unique. The moment you stop trying to copy someone else’s formula is the moment your business starts to feel like yours again.
What’s in this episode:
[00:35] The moment pricing shame made me question everything
[01:40] Raising rates because you were told to and how it can backfire
[02:30] Why copying someone else’s formula rarely works
[03:50] The problem with one-size-fits-all pricing and business advice
[04:40] How IPS and other business models only work when they fit you
[05:20] The four pillars of your personal math
[06:00] How defining success changes everything
[07:00] Numbers, fear, shame, and the stories we attach to them
[08:10] What your business can look like when it aligns with your life
Your business does not need to follow someone else’s equation to be legitimate. When you build your pricing and structure around your life, your goals, and your energy, everything becomes more sustainable.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
Is This Mine to Carry?
2026/03/25
“We carry so much that was never ours to begin with.”
Photographers are natural caretakers. We carry emotions, expectations, tension, family dynamics, weather, naps, meltdowns, and even outcomes we cannot control. And without realizing it, we start walking around with armfuls of things that were never ours to hold.
In this episode, I share the question that changed everything for me: Is this mine to carry?
You will hear how this simple question can lift an invisible weight off your shoulders, help you stop absorbing other people’s stress, and allow you to focus on what is actually yours: your integrity, your consistency, your creativity, and your heart.
What’s in this episode:
00:35] Why photographers carry more than they realize[01:40] How we absorb client stress and taking it on as your own[02:50] When business outcomes feel personal even when they are not[04:20] Putting down what was never yours to hold[05:00] What is yours to carry in your business[06:00] How carrying the wrong things leads to burnout[07:00] Asking the question that helps you release what is too heavyYou are not meant to carry everything. When you begin putting down what is not yours, you finally have room to hold what truly matters.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
Stop Playing Small: Shifting Mindset, Habits, and Confidence with Johl Dunn
2026/03/18
Most photographers think better gear, stronger marketing, or a new strategy will fix what feels stuck in their business. But often, the real shift starts somewhere deeper.
In this episode, I’m sitting down with mindset and business coach Johl Dunn to talk about the beliefs, habits, and internal patterns that shape how photographers show up, grow, and succeed. Johl shares how comparison, fear, and old conditioning can quietly hold people back, even when they are doing everything “right” on the surface.
We talk about the role of daily habits, emotional energy, and aligned action, why marketing works best when it reflects who you actually are, and how confidence builds through awareness, not perfection. Johl also opens up about his own journey from photographer to coach and what finally led him to follow the work that felt most aligned.
This conversation is a reminder that growth in business rarely starts with tactics. It starts with how you think, how you show up, and what you believe is possible.
What’s in this episode:
[00:03:00] The first invisible problem most photographers face when they feel stuck[00:06:30] Busy work vs the actions that actually move a business forward[00:07:30] Building a sales and marketing engine that works today[00:09:00] Why showing up as yourself attracts the right clients[00:12:30] Identity shifts and letting go of old labels that hold you back[00:14:30] Understanding trauma, beliefs, and how they shape confidence[00:16:30] Habits and routines that create real momentum in business[00:22:00] Subconscious beliefs that keep photographers playing small[00:23:30] Comparison, confidence, and letting go of perfection[00:26:30] Staying true to your style instead of chasing trends[00:27:30] Curiosity, humility, and learning through failure[00:29:00] Frequency, energy, and attracting aligned clients[00:31:30] Handling difficult clients without losing confidence[00:33:30] What makes someone coachable and ready for growthIf you have ever felt stuck, second-guessed your direction, or wondered why the “right strategies” are not working, this conversation will help you reconnect with the mindset, habits, and alignment that truly create momentum.
For full show notes, resources, links, and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
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The Shock Absorber
2026/03/11
“We’re the shock absorbers: women and especially mothers. We absorb everything so everyone else can keep going.”
When I heard Michelle Obama say those words, I had to pause and breathe. Because it named something I have been feeling for years: the invisible emotional labor of holding everything together, both at work and at home.
In this heartfelt episode, I’m sharing what it means to be the “shock absorber” in your family and business and how it slowly depletes your energy, creativity, and joy. I’m also exploring how to step back, set boundaries, and finally give yourself permission to rest.
What’s in this episode:
[00:40] What it means to be the “shock absorber”[01:20] The invisible weight women carry every day[02:10] Why overstimulation leads to shutdown[03:00] The emotional cost of absorbing everyone’s moods[04:00] Letting go of the need to fix everything[05:10] You don’t need a breakdown to justify a break[06:00] How to rest without guilt and reclaim your softnessBeing dependable doesn’t mean being depleted. This episode is your reminder that you can be the soft place without being the shock absorber 24/7.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
The Psychology of Posing with Jodi Hendricks, Founder of Posers
2026/03/04
Confidence is not just something you feel. It is something your clients feel from you.
This incredibly enjoyable episode features my conversation with Jodi Hendricks from Posers and J. Anne Photography. We talk all about the powerful connection between confidence, posing, and business growth. Jodi shares how the way you lead a session and make people feel affects everything from marketing word of mouth to pricing to how often clients come back.
We dive into the psychology behind posing, why emotional intelligence matters just as much as technical skill, and how photographers often underestimate the authority they already hold. Jodi opens up about building her studio, transitioning from weddings to portraits, and the surprising way confidence can snowball into more bookings, stronger referrals, and higher income.
This conversation is honest, funny, and deeply real. It is a reminder that your presence in the room matters just as much as your camera.
What’s in this episode:
[00:00:00] How posing confidence affects bookings, income, and word of mouth[00:01:00] Introduction to Jodi and her psychology-driven approach to portrait work[00:04:00] Transitioning from weddings into portraits and opening a studio[00:05:00] Tripling income in the first year and what changed[00:07:30] The authority photographers already have and often forget to use[00:15:30] Emotional intelligence and helping clients feel safe and comfortable[00:20:30] Why confidence shapes the entire client experience from start to finish[00:27:00] Honest conversation about anxiety, pressure, and the emotional side of running a businessIf you’ve ever felt the difference between a session that just “went fine” and one that truly lit a client up, this honest conversation with Jodi breaks down how to actually create that shift.
For full show notes, resources, links, and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
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Am I Invited or is My Camera?
2026/02/25
Some invitations feel good. Others feel like a job you never agreed to.
If you have ever been asked to “bring your camera” to a gathering you hoped to simply enjoy, you know exactly what I mean.
In this solo episode, I am opening up about something many photographers keep quiet about. It is that sinking feeling when you realize you were invited because of what you can provide, not because they truly wanted you there. We talk about why this hits so hard, how easily resentment builds, and the quiet emotional labor photographers carry when our worth gets tied to our productivity.
I am also sharing simple boundary phrases that protect your peace, along with some honest encouragement if you have ever felt taken for granted. You deserve to be valued for who you are, not for the gear you own.
What’s in this episode:
[00:00] The quiet sting of being invited as the photographer instead of the friend[01:00] Why these moments land deeper than people realize[02:00] The emotional load photographers carry at family events[03:00] Gear lending, prop borrowing, and feeling more “useful” than appreciated[03:40] Why it is okay to say no without guilt[05:00] Easy boundary scripts you can use right away[06:00] How to handle pushback when you hold a limit[06:45] A reminder that your presence matters, even when you are not producingIf you have ever felt invisible or taken advantage of as a photographer, this episode will help you step back into your worth.
For full show notes, resources, links and to download the transcript, visit our website: https://themilkyway.ca/podcast/
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Hill923 2025/09/04
Great show
I have been listening for a while and I wish more photographers would listen to help grow their businesses
Paige phone 2024/12/02
A must listen
Lisa is warm, grounded and so full of information about the photography world. Listening and speaking with her is like being with a friend sharing “al...
cole2144 2024/03/07
Impressed!
The Art and Soul Show definitely gives what it promises, and more! As a photographer and entrepreneur, it’s hard to make these kind of connections in ...
Amy Dangerfield 2023/11/03
Highlight of my day!
I love listening to the Art
melissaarlena 2023/08/24
Perfect podcast for photographers!
So much good info for photographers! Take it one episode at a time and implement what you learn before jumping to the next one. You don’t want to miss...
clake 2023/04/20
Love it!
I don’t listen to podcasts… but I listen to this one!! It’s uplifting as much as it is informative! And such a great resource for photographers.
Tiffany Robinson ❤️ 2023/04/18
EXCELLENT!!!
Couldn’t LOVE this more!! Anything and everything a photographer could need to hear, especially starting out.
DoraMarie Photography 2023/04/17
The best content
As a maternity and newborn photographer i am constantly trying to better my education and I have purchased the Milky Way retreats from the beginning. ...
BrandiMaeH 2023/04/17
Very Informative
Love listening always learn something new and helpful.
Lucille Janey 2023/04/17
Best way to edit!
I love listening to the Art & Soul podcast while I’m editing. My brain needs to be multitasking, so I enjoy absorbing useful business knowledge and id...
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