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197 episodes
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Date created
2020/04/15
Latest episode
2026/04/22
Average duration
70 min.
Release period
12 days
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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part VIII: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 195
2026/04/22
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.
The Old Testament is filled with references to the Promised Land. So how do Jesus and the New Testament authors build on this idea? And what is the geographical territory that is meant to be under the reign of the Messiah?
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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part VII: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 194
2026/04/15
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.
A major theme in the story of God's chosen people Israel is the "Promised Land." Ken Hensley unpacks what was involved in that promise in the generations leading up to Jesus. Was that promise ever fulfilled, and if so, how was it fulfilled?
This sets the stage for our next episode, when we'll discuss how this theme recurs in the teachings and prophecies of the New Testament.
The Coming Home Network was established to help inquiring clergy and laity of various faiths -- or even no faith at all -- with fellowship, resources, and encouragement as they explore the possibility of becoming Catholic.
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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part VI: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 193
2026/03/26
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.
What do the prophecies of the Old Testament tell us about how God will dwell with his people in the New Covenant? What implications does this have for the Temple? And what do Jesus and the authors of the New Testament have to say about how all of these prophecies are fulfilled?
The Coming Home Network was established to help inquiring clergy and laity of various faiths -- or even no faith at all -- with fellowship, resources, and encouragement as they explore the possibility of becoming Catholic.
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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part V: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 192
2026/03/18
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.
In this episode, they look at the prophecies about God's coming Kingdom throughout salvation history, and compare that with the way Jesus preached the Kingdom during his earthly ministry.
They also look at examples in the writings and preaching of Peter and Paul to unpack how they and the other apostles understood the kind of Kingdom that Jesus had come to establish.
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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part IV:On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Ep. 191
2026/03/11
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.
In this episode, they look at the prophecies throughout salvation history related to how God was gathering together a people, and how the words and actions of Jesus in founding His Church fulfill the promises God made to bless all nations through His people Israel.
More episodes in this series: https://chnetwork.org/category/blog/chnvideos/on-the-journey/dispensationalism/
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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part III: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Episode 190
2026/03/04
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.
In this episode, they look at the covenants God has made with His people through the centuries leading up to Jesus, and how it is Jesus Himself who is the most perfect fulfillment of the prophecies and promises made to Israel.
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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part II: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Episode 189
2026/02/25
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley continues his series with Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about how the theological framework of Dispensationalism began to fall apart for him.
In this episode, Ken discusses some of the specific passages of Scripture that were leading him to believe that the central claims of Dispensationalism couldn't hold up to Biblical scrutiny.
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Deconstructing Dispensationalism, Part I: On the Journey with Matt, Ken, and Kenny, Episode 188
2026/02/18
From The Late Great Planet Earth to Left Behind and beyond, millions of Christians have subscribed, knowingly or unknowingly, to the conclusions of a theological system known as Dispensationalism, which makes claims not only about the end of the world and the return of Jesus, but also about the nature of covenants in Scripture.
Ken Hensley, a former Baptist pastor who came to faith in the 1970's through the witness of Christian friends who were dispensationalists, shares a window into how that shaped his approach to Scripture, and how his perspective on the Bible has developed since those early days.
He talks to Matt Swaim and Kenny Burchard about what Dispensationalism is, how it originated, and the internal logic that drives it.
This is the first in an extended series of episodes on Dispensationalism from a Catholic perspective -- stay tuned as we continue the conversation in the coming weeks!
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Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part XI: On the Journey, Episode 187
2026/01/14
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
After ten episodes of explaining how he came to realize that the Reformation doctrine of salvation by "faith alone" wasn't Biblical, former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley shares how he came to embrace the way the Catholic Church talks about what it means to be saved.
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Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part X - On The Journey Episode 186
2026/01/07
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley shares seven key realizations that helped him understand that the Reformation doctrine of salvation by "faith alone" wasn't supported by the testimony of the Scriptures.
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Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part IX – On the Journey, Episode 185
2025/12/17
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley looks at how St. Paul reflects on the nature of justification in his Epistles, to see how it compares with the Reformed and Catholic understandings of how we are saved.
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Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part VIII – On the Journey, Episode 184
2025/12/10
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley takes a deep dive into the Old Testament texts that refer to the nature of justification to look at what the Scriptures teach us about how God goes about saving His people.
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Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part VII - On the Journey, Episode 183
2025/12/03
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Reformed theology argues that Abraham was justified by faith alone the moment he first believed.
But when was that moment?
When he left his home in Ur to follow God? When he believed in God's promise of offspring twenty-five years later? When he was willing to sacrifice his son Isaac?
All these are pointed to in the New Testament as moments when Abraham was considered righteous by God for his faithful action.
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley unpacks what these three distinct events mean for the Biblical understanding of salvation and justification.
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On the Journey, Episode 182: Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part VI
2025/11/19
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley shares some of the things he began to discover about Luther's development of the doctrine of salvation by faith alone.
Ken started to see that Luther's teaching was based on a specific set of key verses, but whenever Luther's conclusions were contradicted by some other part of Scripture, it required him to either dismiss those verses, or somehow modify their meaning so that they could fit into Luther's teaching.
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On the Journey, Episode 181: Embracing the Catholic Gospel, Part V
2025/11/12
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley shares how one of the most important distinctions a Christian can make in regard to faith and works is this: are we employees, working for a wage from God for our efforts, or are we patients, willingly allowing ourselves to be treated, and taking the steps to make healthy decisions as prescribed by our Great Physician?
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Angler Guy 2025/01/19
Thank you!
One of the best Catholic podcasts out there! It has been very, very helpful to me in my journey.
BenTC99 2024/02/23
10/10! Great Podcast!!
I love this podcast so much! The cohesion and chemistry between three of them is so good and it allows them to pass the beauty of the Catholic faith i...
Lhuang86 2023/03/02
Fantastic podcast
I’m a curious Protestant and I’m so thankful to have found Matt & Ken’s podcast. So many of the questions they pondered during their journey to Cathol...
nana_4x 2023/02/18
Among the Best
Impossible not to revert or convert to the Catholic faith after you listen to this podcast. Thank you Matt and Kens, always very interesting and info...
Mgoets9941 2022/12/07
Easily my favorite show!
Thank you so much for doing this show, Matt, Ken, and Kenny! It is easily my favorite show on any platform. Currently, I am discerning the call of the...
Sheushsjjaisnssb 2022/10/24
Why I converted
This podcast is honestly the main reason I converted from Calvinism, It made so much sense!!
JR Hibbs 2022/08/23
This podcast was a huge help in becoming Catholic
As a lifelong Protestant (and Evangelical pastor for 11 years), most of my sources on Catholicism came from Protestants. When I finally decided I was ...
Restinchrist24 2022/07/10
Great show
Fantastic.
GamesRFun MeMeMe 2021/09/24
Awesome podcast
Thorough, fair, reasonable explanations of why Catholics believe what they do, all expressed with great respect for Protestants. I wish this had exist...
timwhiteatx 2021/09/12
Nice job gents
Excellent show, great substance and very approachable … keep up the good work
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