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2020/05/04
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2026/09/16
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GTM Live is a new evolution of Revenue Vitals by Chris Walker, now hosted by Carolyn Dilks & Trevor Gibson, Co-Founders of Passetto — a part tech, part advisory GTM agency for high-performing B2B SaaS companies. This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better. We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.

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AI Is Exposing a Massive Problem With B2B Marketing Data
2026/09/16
JUST LAUNCHED: Go beyond outdated marketing measurement and static dashboards. Get better answers and explore performance yourself through AI with Passetto's MCP. Learn more → https://www.passetto.com/marketing-analytics-mcp Every marketing leader is under pressure to adopt AI. And one of the most obvious places to start is reporting, analysis, and marketing KPIs. Just connect your CRM and marketing data to Claude or ChatGPT and start asking questions. Simple, right? Not quite. In this episode, Carolyn breaks down the unsexy data problem sitting underneath AI-powered marketing analytics, and why AI can give you an incredibly confident answer without knowing that the data behind it is incomplete, disconnected, or inconsistent. You'll learn the three places marketing data most commonly breaks, why those gaps make marketing's impact invisible, and what needs to be true before you can reliably use AI to understand buyer journeys, marketing lift, pipeline velocity, win rates, and revenue impact. What the episode covers: Why AI-powered reporting is only as trustworthy as the data underneath itThe 3 foundational data problems that make marketing measurement unreliableWhy broken contact relationships can make marketing’s impact invisibleHow inconsistent marketing signal tracking creates major gaps in the buyer journeyWhy inconsistent CRM fields and definitions lead to conflicting answersThe risk of AI giving you confident answers based on incomplete or broken dataWhat needs to be in place to unlock better KPIs like marketing lift, pipeline velocity, win rate, and full buyer journey visibilityHow a trusted data foundation changes the way marketing leaders report to the board and make decisions The real opportunity with AI isn't just getting answers faster. It's finally getting better answers you can trust. ----------------------------------------------------- Measure marketing beyond leads and last-touch attribution. Passetto joins your CRM and marketing data into one clean, governed model, so you can finally see how marketing is performing as a whole – not just what channel or campaign gets credited.  See how marketing influences pipeline, how marketing changes win rates and deal sizes, which programs are actually driving ROI, and where to invest next. Then query it all through AI, on demand. 🚀 See what Passetto can show you → ⁠https://www.passetto.com/book-a-call⁠ ----------------------------------------------------- 📹 How Claude Just Changed B2B Marketing Forever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft6TGfK_nFg  📹 B2B Marketing is Hard Until You Build Systems Like This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehJ1kEGgk0A  Subscribe to Passetto’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@PassettoGTM⁠
B2B SEO: The #1 Reason Brands Actually Get Recommended in AI Search — with Gaetano DiNardi
2026/08/31
Learn how to use AI to answer the marketing questions that actually matter. Join our free live Masterclass → https://www.passetto.com/ai-marketing-kpi-masterclass Showing up in AI search isn't a ranking game. It's a category-level eligibility problem. In this episode, Carolyn and Amber sit down with Gaetano DiNardi, the GOAT of SEO, to break down what actually gets a brand recommended by an LLM: entity association, AKA the model's pre-existing, trained-in belief that you belong in a category. It takes months, sometimes years, to build. No schema markup or "LLMs.txt" trick shortcuts it. Then they go after the citation obsession running the GEO conversation. Gaetano has clients getting cited constantly and still not getting recommended, because a citation and a recommendation aren't the same thing. Topics covered: Why GEO is a category eligibility problem, not an SEO ranking problemWhat "entity association" is, how long it realistically takes to build, and why some brands shouldn't even try yetThe citation myth: why getting cited everywhere doesn't mean getting recommended, and why the "95% third-party" stat is misleadingWhat it actually takes to get recommended by name when a buyer asks an AI tool for a shortlistWhy top-of-funnel content is dying on owned domains and moving to "rented land" (YouTube, LinkedIn, Substack)Who should prioritize SEO/GEO right now, and who's still too early to bother Skip to 47:00 to watch a live walkthrough: Gaetano reverse-engineers a ChatGPT recommendation in real time, asking it directly how it landed on an answer and which sources it actually pulled from. ----------------------------------------------------- Measure marketing beyond leads and last-touch attribution. Passetto unifies CRM and marketing data into one clean, governed model, to finally help marketing leaders measure the KPIs they actually need. See how marketing influences pipeline, how marketing changes win rates and deal size, which programs are actually working, and where to invest next. Then query it all through AI, on demand. 🚀 See what Passetto can show you → ⁠https://www.passetto.com/book-a-call⁠ ----------------------------------------------------- 🔗 MORE FROM GAETANO Follow Gaetano on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/officialg/  Subscribe to Gaetano’s Substack: https://marketingadvice.substack.com/  Work with Gaetano: https://marketingadvice.io/  ----------------------------------------------------- 📹 B2B Marketing is Hard Until You Build Systems Like This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehJ1kEGgk0A  📹 Why B2B Marketing Measurement is Broken: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv8MSmnAu3Y⁠ Subscribe to Passetto’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@PassettoGTM⁠
3 Major GTM Blind Spots Hurting Marketing’s Ability to Measure Revenue Impact
2026/08/24
✨ Join our FREE upcoming Masterclass – Board-Ready Marketing KPIs with AI: https://www.passetto.com/ai-marketing-kpi-masterclass Marketing is increasingly accountable for revenue while being asked to rely on data it doesn't control and often can't validate. In this episode, Amber breaks down the main revenue data blind spots that often undermine marketing's ability to explain performance, defend spend, and make decisions with conviction and real evidence.. It starts with an old mindset: that once a deal moves to sales, marketing's job is done. It's not. Marketing has a role throughout the opportunity cycle, but most teams are missing the data they need to understand what happens after handoff. Sales activity is scattered across systems. Buying committees disappear from marketing's view. Critical fields are manually set or overwritten. And system migrations can wipe out the historical context you need to understand performance over time. The result? Marketing is held accountable to pipeline and revenue numbers it can't fully explain. Amber walks through a real client example: pipeline suddenly spiked, the CEO wanted to know why, and the marketing leader couldn't confidently answer. The problem wasn't a lack of data. It was what the data couldn't tell her. What this episode covers: The old mindset that convinces marketing its role ends at handoff and why that's increasingly dangerousWhy sales activity is one of the biggest untapped data sources for marketingThe buying committee data most marketing teams lose once an opportunity is createdWhy manually set and overwritten CRM fields make seemingly simple metrics difficult to defendHow CRM and marketing automation migrations quietly destroy historical visibilityA real client story: a pipeline spike marketing couldn't confidently explain to the CEOThe specific CRM red flags to look for before building your next board narrative ----------------------------------------------------- 📹 B2B Marketing is Hard Until You Build Systems Like This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehJ1kEGgk0A  📹 Why B2B Marketing Measurement is Broken: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv8MSmnAu3Y⁠ Subscribe to Passetto’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@PassettoGTM⁠ ----------------------------------------------------- The difference between guessing and knowing is almost always hiding in the data you already have. In less than 30 days, Passetto builds the marketing measurement system that gives marketing leaders continuous visibility into what's driving pipeline and revenue—and the evidence to confidently make and defend their next investment decision. 🚀 Get started → ⁠https://www.passetto.com/book-a-call⁠
Marketing Creates the Demand. But What Actually Builds the Revenue Engine? — with Aviv Canaani of Datarails
2026/08/13
The problem with marketing is that so many teams think their job ends when a lead becomes an opportunity. The highest-performing GTM teams know that's where the REAL work begins. In this episode, Amber sits down with Aviv Canaani, CRO at Datarails, to unpack how the company transformed from a 90% outbound sales motion into a scalable revenue engine powered primarily by inbound demand. Rather than optimizing marketing and sales separately, Aviv shares why the entire funnel should be treated as one connected revenue system and how RevOps, automation, and marketing architecture make that possible. In this episode: Why marketing and sales should operate as one revenue engineHow Datarails shifted from 90% outbound to 90% inboundWhy the best marketers take bigger creative risksHow RevOps can automate the revenue engine, not just report on itWhy attribution has limits, and what leaders should measure insteadHow AI is changing the future of GTM operations If you're trying to create more pipeline, improve sales efficiency, or better align marketing and revenue teams, this episode will absolutely challenge how you think about building a modern GTM organization. ----------------------------------------------------- 🔗 MORE FROM AVIV & DATARAILS Follow Aviv on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/avivcanaani/  Follow Datarails on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@datarails  Finance OS by DataRails: https://lp.datarails.com/ai-for-fpa-financeos ----------------------------------------------------- 🚀 FREE MARKETING MEASUREMENT AUDIT Every quarter, you're defending marketing with data that hides most of its impact. You can't fix what you can't measure, and you can't defend what you don’t have evidence for.  I built a Marketing KPI Audit that pinpoints exactly where you're blind across the buyer journey and recommends 3 priorities that will move the needle most. I'm giving early access — email me at [email protected] and I'll run yours personally. ----------------------------------------------------- Subscribe to Passetto’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@PassettoGTM  📹 Why B2B Marketing Measurement is Broken: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv8MSmnAu3Y
7 Traits of Elite CMOs That Have Nothing to Do With Tactics
2026/08/03
There's an instinct every marketing leader is trained to have: fight for credit on pipeline. The best CMOs have realized it's exactly what's holding them back. In this episode, Carolyn breaks down the behavioral traits that separate the best CMOs from everyone else — the patterns she sees every day working with marketing leaders across B2B SaaS. Rather than another set of tactics or a borrowed playbook, she unpacks why the highest-performing CMOs let go of credit, obsess over data integrity, stop waiting on RevOps, and build a culture of making decisions from evidence instead of assumptions. In this episode: (01:45) Why the best CMOs let go of marketing credit and what they focus on instead(07:33) Why a relentless commitment to data integrity is the foundation every good decision rests on(09:55) How elite CMOs stop waiting on RevOps to hand them the numbers that matter(14:45) Why the strongest leaders play offense and defense with their board at the same time(19:55) How ruthless experimentation drives real breakout results(27:12) Why nobody understands your buyer better than your own team(28:56) What it actually takes to survive the mental grind of modern marketing leadership If you're trying to prove marketing's impact, make sharper decisions with your data, or build the resilience to lead through constant change, this episode will challenge how you think about what it takes to be a great CMO today. ----------------------------------------------------- 🚀 FREE MARKETING KPI AUDIT Every quarter, you're defending marketing with data that hides most of its impact. You can't fix what you can't measure, and you can't defend what you don’t have evidence for.  I built a Marketing KPI Audit that pinpoints exactly where you're blind across the buyer journey and recommends 3 priorities that will move the needle most. I'm giving early access — email me at [email protected] and I'll run yours personally. ----------------------------------------------------- 📹 Ultimate Guide to Marketing Measurement in 2026: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9yfdYi0X4I  Subscribe to Passetto’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@PassettoGTM
The Biggest Lie in Account-Based Marketing (And Why Most ABM Campaigns Never Create Pipeline)
2026/07/28
The biggest problem with most ABM programs isn't execution, it's that they try to personalize at scale before they truly understand their buyers. Everyone wants the results of account-based marketing. Few organizations build the foundation required to make it work. In this episode, Carolyn sits down with Steve Armenti, former ABM leader at Google and founder of Twelfth Agency, to unpack one of the biggest misconceptions in modern B2B marketing. Together they explore why high-volume personalization is becoming less effective, why AI can't replace strategy, and why the highest-performing GTM teams build what Steve calls a "market of one", a deep understanding of every target account before scaling outreach. You'll learn: Why most ABM programs never create real demandThe hidden flaw in high-volume personalizationWhy AI amplifies strategy instead of replacing itHow leading GTM teams build a 360° account viewThe "market of one" framework for modern B2B growth If your ABM strategy isn't producing the pipeline you expected, this episode may change what you believe the real problem is. ----------------------------------------------------- The difference between guessing and knowing is almost always hiding in the data you already have. In less than 30 days, Passetto builds the marketing measurement system that gives marketing leaders continuous visibility into what's driving pipeline and revenue—and the evidence to confidently make and defend their next investment decision. 🚀 Get started → https://www.passetto.com/book-a-call ----------------------------------------------------- Check out Twelfth Agency: https://twelfth.agency/  Subscribe to Passetto’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@PassettoGTM
Why Paid Search Keeps Failing B2B (impression-share traps, demand capture vs. creation, when to pull the plug)
2026/07/13
In this episode, Carolyn sits down with Liam MacCormack, a fractional head of growth who's spent years in the weeds of B2B paid search, to unpack why the channel keeps burning B2B budgets and what to do about it. They get into the market forces making paid search harder than ever: rising CPCs, zero-click search, and agencies still optimizing like it's 2015. Then they go tactical on a real client scenario — a high-ACV company that's switched agencies multiple times and still can't make it work — and what that reveals about when a channel is worth fixing versus when it's just draining spend. Topics covered: Why "you need to spend more on impression share" is the most seductive upsell in paid search, and the one metric that actually tells you if it's trueThe profile of a company paid search works for, and the profile where it's a waste of moneyWhy paid search is a demand-capture channel, and what that means for how you budget itHow to know when to cut the channel, cut the budget in half, or let it run as a tertiary sourceWhy branded search is propping up most agency reporting, and the one question to ask to find out If your paid search has been underperforming for quarters and the answer is always "give it more time," this one's worth your attention. ----------------------------------------------------- 🔗 LINKS + RESOURCES 📹 How to Survive B2B Marketing in 2026: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlEqVWVuwdo 📹 How to Build a Killer GTM Strategy for B2B SaaS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFK9LvMslOc 📹 Ultimate Guide to Marketing Measurement in 2026: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9yfdYi0X4I ----------------------------------------------------- Marketing has evolved. Measurement hasn't. You're still running on a 20-year-old methodology that can't see most of the value you create. Passetto’s 14-day Sprint fixes that — showing you where you're creating real value, where you're wasting effort, and which levers will actually drive your next stage of growth. Your best work shouldn't die in data darkness. Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks: https://www.passetto.com/book-a-call -----------------------------------------------------
The Rise and Fall of the MQL — Live Workshop Recording with Jon Miller
2026/07/01
The MQL is marketing's worst open secret. Everyone in the room knows the number is gamed. The leads are low-intent, the scoring is guesswork, and the pipeline isn't growing. Yet marketing keeps getting graded on the one metric nobody actually trusts. In this workshop, Carolyn and Amber sit down with Jon Miller to take apart the metric the entire B2B playbook still runs on and walk through anonymized customer data showing exactly what it costs. Hand raisers in this account converted 83X better than MQLs and qualified faster. The MQLs that didn't convert got worked for two months before anyone disqualified them. That's the drain nobody puts on a slide. What this workshop covers: Why the MQL became gospel and the moment a sound idea turned into a volume game sales learned to ignoreThe gumball machine fallacy: why "more budget in, more pipeline out" assumes a linear process that buying stopped being years agoNonlinear buying, the dark funnel, and why one overwritten lead record erases the history you actually needReal customer data: MQLs accounted for under 6% of pipeline while hand raisers drove 39% of closed-won revenueJon's three-tier lead model and why waiting for hand raisers alone forfeits first-mover advantage and your future pipelineThe KPI cheat sheet: pipeline velocity, brand-question surveys, post-sale revenue metrics, and the numbers a board actually speaksWhat the shift means for your MarTech stack as AI moves orchestration from rules to reasoning The leaders who get out from under the MQL don't kill it overnight. They layer in metrics their CFO and head of sales already recognize and stop defending volume that was never converting. ----------------------------------------------------- 🔗 LINKS + RESOURCES 📹 How to Survive B2B Marketing in 2026: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlEqVWVuwdo⁠ 📹 How to Build a Killer GTM Strategy for B2B SaaS: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFK9LvMslOc⁠ 📹 Ultimate Guide to Marketing Measurement in 2026: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9yfdYi0X4I⁠ ----------------------------------------------------- Marketing has evolved. Measurement hasn't. You're still running on a 20-year-old methodology that can't see most of the value you create. Passetto’s 14-day Sprint fixes that — showing you where you're creating real value, where you're wasting effort, and which levers will actually drive your next stage of growth. Your best work shouldn't die in data darkness. Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks: ⁠https://www.passetto.com/book-a-call⁠ -----------------------------------------------------
Brand Is Trust: Gong's Udi Ledergor on Marketing in the AI Era
2026/06/23
The marketing funnel you've built your whole strategy around? It never described how people actually buy. It was a tidy oversimplification, and in a world of zero-click search and AI-saturated channels, it's never held up worse. In this episode, Amber sits down with Udi Ledergor — Gong's first marketer, now Chief Evangelist, author of Courageous Marketing, and the guy who ran a Super Bowl ad and coined a category on the way to $500M in ARR. Udi's argument cuts against the "hack-everything" reflex of modern GTM: brand isn't a vibe, it's trust, and trust is the only thing that makes a buyer go straight to you instead of crawling through a funnel. What this episode covers: Why brand comes down to one thing, trust, and how raving fans replace the funnel entirelyThe unconventional bets behind Gong's brand: the Super Bowl spot, the bulldog, the 2021 enterprise rebrandWhy Courageous Marketing never mentions AI on purpose, and what makes a marketing principle timelessThe two-headed dragon: what actually fixes sales and marketing alignment (hint: do you know how your CRO takes their coffee?)Why a marketing team not working from the same data as sales is committing a crime against its own companyHow AI agents now prove marketing's hard impact This episode unpacks exactly why the companies winning right now are the ones people demand their employer buy. ----------------------------------------------------- 🔗 MORE FROM UDI 📖 Grab a copy of Udi’s book Courageous Marketing 📖 Follow Udi on LinkedIn ----------------------------------------------------- Marketing has evolved. Measurement hasn't. You're still running on a 20-year-old methodology that can't see most of the value you create. Passetto’s 14-day Sprint fixes that — showing you where you're creating real value, where you're wasting effort, and which levers will actually drive your next stage of growth. Your best work shouldn't die in data darkness. [Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks]
What to Do When Your RevOps Team Is the Blocker to Your Marketing KPIs
2026/06/16
📹 NEW on YouTube: Ultimate Guide to Marketing Measurement in 2026 There's no excuse left for not knowing what's driving revenue. The tools are here. The data is here. Operating without the answer has crossed from forgivable into malpractice. In this episode, Carolyn and Amber get into the marketing measurement problem every marketing leader is living with, and the reason it never gets solved. Your rev ops team is skilled, but they're also buried keeping the lights on. And the build-vs-buy reflex defaults to "build," and nobody's counting what the wait actually costs you. Both hosts have lived this from the inside: the end-of-quarter scramble, stitching opportunities together one by one, chasing reps to find out if a lead was ever even worked. They name why it keeps happening and what to do instead. What this episode covers: Why leaning on rev ops to fix marketing measurement rarely works and the real cost of waiting another 6-9 monthsThe build-vs-buy trap: why "best practice says build it" has become a dirty word when your job is on the line nowHow the top 1% use AI to do what was never possible before, while everyone else just automates KPIs they already hadThe hard metrics that actually move a board: win rate by account tier, sales velocity when marketing's involved, speed-to-lead, web-form conversion velocityWhy speed-to-lead is a marketing metric, not a sales one — and how quantifying revenue leakage unlocks budget and buy-inHow to walk into a QBR with two or three defensible numbers and a plan, instead of a "here's what marketing did" slide that lands as "so what?"Finding your one real growth lever: is the problem before pipeline creation, or in your ability to close? The leaders who break out of this don't wait for the data to magically come together. They show up with the few hard numbers their CFO and head of sales actually speak, and stop trying to prove their value every single quarter. ----------------------------------------------------- Marketing has evolved. Measurement hasn't. You're still running on a 20-year-old methodology that can't see most of the value you create. Passetto’s 14-day Sprint fixes that — showing you where you're creating real value, where you're wasting effort, and which levers will actually drive your next stage of growth. Your best work shouldn't die in data darkness. [Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks]
How AI Natives Are Using Claude Code to Rewrite GTM — with Jordan Crawford (Uncut in the Desert)
2026/06/02
In this episode, recorded out in the New Mexico desert at ChiliPalooza, Jordan Crawford makes a blunt case to B2B SaaS: the methodologies you built your career on are about to age out, and the only way through is to get your hands on Claude Code. Jordan's spent his whole job lately doing one thing: teaching clients to work with AI. And what he's found cuts against almost everything sales and marketing teams currently do. What this episode covers: Why the constraint on building things isn't budget or headcount anymore, it's imaginationThe SDR question every revenue leader is asking today: we went all-in, we see the volume, and we don't know what's working...so now what?How Jordan rebuilds prospecting strategies from what customers actually did, not what a rep thinks they wantWhy being wrong fast and cheap beats being right slowly: "you can beat any grandmaster if you get two moves to their one"The truth about a sloppier world, and why polish is no longer the pointWhy the gap between people who are great at this and people who are bad at it comes down to how you think, not skillWhy the "graybeards" built on ten-year-old playbooks are going away, and what replaces them The people who get in the tool will build things the graybeards can't imagine. The ones who don't will spend the next few years explaining a methodology nobody's buying. ----------------------------------------------------- 🔗 MORE FROM JORDAN ⁠Follow Jordan Crawford on LinkedIn⁠ ⁠On the Edge by Blueprint⁠ (Jordan’s Substack) ⁠Blueprint⁠ – AKA the OG GTM Engineer ----------------------------------------------------- Marketing has evolved. Measurement hasn't. You're still running on a 20-year-old methodology that can't see most of the value you create. Passetto’s 14-day Sprint fixes that — showing you where you're creating real value, where you're wasting effort, and which levers will actually drive your next stage of growth. Your best work shouldn't die in data darkness. [Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks]
The Pressure B2B Marketing Leaders Don’t Talk About Enough
2026/05/28
You can't be a great marketer if your nervous system is stuck in survival mode. If you're a marketing leader, you know the feeling. The 12AM Slack from the CEO. The “where's-the-pipeline?” question that never goes away. The low-grade anxiety running underneath every campaign, every board deck, every quarter. In this episode, Carolyn and Amber connect the inner game to the measurement problem. The anxiety marketers carry isn't a personal failing. It's the tax you pay for being judged by numbers that miss your real contribution: shaping how the market perceives you, long before anyone fills out a form. And here's what nobody in GTM is actually talking about: you cannot build the future you want while your body is locked in defending the present. Your brain chemistry doesn't know the difference between the meeting you're dreading and the one that's already over — it reacts the same way to both. And when you live in that state, you can't create. You can only react. What this episode covers: The breakthroughs from both Amber and Carolyn’s recent vacationsWhy so many B2B marketers are operating from low-grade panic, and why it’s costing them their best workHow belief and brain chemistry shape what you're able to create, and why you have to embody the outcome before it shows upWhy marketing's real job is shaping brand perception in-market, and why traditional KPIs can't see that workHow to use zero-party data — what customers tell you directly — to inform the customer journey instead of guessing from last-touch behaviorThree books that reshaped how Carolyn thinks about wealth, awareness, and building a future you can't yet see: Happy Pocket Full of Money, The Power of Awareness, and Dr. Joe Dispenza's Becoming Supernatural If you're a marketing leader tired of doing your best work from a place of panic, and tired of watching it disappear into numbers that can't measure it, this one's for you. ----------------------------------------------------- Want answers now? 🔎 The fastest way to understand how marketing is driving pipeline and revenue → All your data, connected, so you can see what’s working and what to do next. [Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks] ----------------------------------------------------- Not ready for that yet? 🎯 Understand why it’s been so hard to see what’s working → We’ll show you where your visibility breaks and why your current KPIs can’t answer these questions. [Apply for a 1-hour marketing KPI assessment] -----------------------------------------------------
How to Make Marketing Influence Defensible to Your CFO
2026/05/12
📹 NEW on YouTube: MQLs are Dead. Here’s What B2B Marketers Should Track Instead You can't be a great marketer if your best work doesn't show up in your data. If you're a marketing leader, you've spent years being measured by "Marketing Sourced" pipeline and revenue. And you've spent just as long watching your other work — your influence, your perception-shaping, your role inside active deals — get written off as fluffy or unmeasurable.  A marketing function that can only point to sourced pipeline is telling leadership one thing: we're only good at the last mile: demand capture. But there's a proven way to turn marketing influence into a hard, defensible number — one that proves real business impact and real revenue results to your CFO and board. What this episode covers: The industry shift toward perception marketing and creating the conditions for buyers to choose you, and why traditional KPIs can't see itWhy the engagement and awareness stage is far longer than most marketing teams realizeHow to measure marketing's role inside active sales cycles, not just at the top of the funnelThe cohort analysis every marketing leader should be running: opportunities with marketing engagement vs. those without, and what win rate, sales cycle length, and deal size reveal about your real contributionHow TOFU work compounds into pipeline velocity across the full lifecycleHow to show up as a value creation partner to the rest of the business, not just a lead-gen function If you're a marketing leader tired of watching your best work disappear into someone else's pipeline number, this one's for you. ----------------------------------------------------- Want answers now? 🔎 The fastest way to understand how marketing is driving pipeline and revenue → All your data, connected, so you can see what’s working, your real business impact, and where to double down. [Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks] ----------------------------------------------------- Not ready for that yet? 🎯 Understand why it’s been so hard to see what’s working → We’ll show you why your current KPIs can’t answer these questions. [Apply for a 1-hour working session] ----------------------------------------------------- This episode is powered by ⁠Passetto⁠. If your marketing dashboards aren't giving you straight answers, you're in good company. Most Marketing teams simply don't have the KPIs to understand how they are driving pipeline and revenue across the full buyer journey, and where budget is being wasted. Passetto changes that, giving marketing leaders the KPIs they need to act with confidence in today's B2B buying era.
Your Marketing QBR Deck Is Being Run by a 120-Year-Old Model
2026/05/05
Every B2B marketer knows the funnel concept is broken. Yet that same model your team is being measured on right now was invented in 1898, and it's surviving because nobody at the top has been given permission to use anything else. Carolyn and Amber react to a recent article in Adweek from Professor Mark Ritson, where he calls the funnel the "cockroach of marketing concepts", a 128-year-old model that has outlived every attempt to replace it. They break down why every critique fails to land, and why the real problem isn't the funnel. It's the classrooms teaching it, the boards demanding it, and the marketers who can't challenge it without risking their careers. Topics covered in this episode: Why a model from 1898 still anchors how B2B companies measure marketing in 2026The gap between what the funnel was designed to do (a market snapshot) and what it's used for (SQL-to-opp conversion, MQL targets)Why every "funnel is dead" critique fails to kill it, and who actually keeps it aliveThe Amazon "full funnel campaigns" moment, and what it says when even the best companies are still using the languageWhy a snapshot in time tells you nothing about where to move budget, why CAC is up, or what to do when pipeline misses If you've tried to kill the funnel inside your own org and watched it survive every conversation, this is the episode. The cockroach isn't the funnel. It's the system that keeps demanding it. ----------------------------------------------------- Want answers now? 🔎 The fastest way to understand what’s actually driving pipeline and revenue → All your data, connected, so you can see what’s working and what to do next. [Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks] ----------------------------------------------------- Not ready for that yet? 🎯 Understand why it’s been so hard to see what’s working → We’ll show you where your visibility breaks and why your current model can’t answer these questions. [Apply for a 1-hour working session] ----------------------------------------------------- 🎥⁠ JOIN our Weekly Recordings on Wednesday at 1pm ET / 10am PT: [RSVP for GTM Live] ----------------------------------------------------- This episode is powered by ⁠Passetto⁠. If your marketing dashboards aren't giving you straight answers, you're in good company. Most Marketing teams simply don't have the visibility to understand how they are driving pipeline and revenue and where budget is being wasted. Passetto changes that, giving marketing leaders the comprehensive data they need to act with confidence.
Identifying Your Marketing Levers When the CRM Data Isn’t Perfect (data trust, finding leverage fast, AI analytics hallucinations)
2026/04/27
📹 NEW on YouTube: 5 Quick Ways to Fix Your B2B Marketing Tracking In this episode, Carolyn and Amber get into the data paralysis that's stalling most GTM teams right now, and why waiting for perfect data is just a slower way of doing nothing. They walk through a real client case study on fast-closing pipeline, what it revealed about where marketing actually has leverage, and why that answer looked completely different market by market. Topics covered: Why "decision-grade" data beats perfect data every time, and what it actually means to have itWhy the instinct to run more campaigns when pipeline is down is often exactly the wrong moveHow to reverse-engineer your fastest-closing deals to find where marketing actually has leverageThe AI analytics problem nobody is talking about: hallucinations in your data, and why you need a serious validation process before you trust any outputHow a $60M sales-led company should think about finding their marketing levers when they're building the function from scratch If your team keeps getting pulled into data rabbit holes instead of moving the needle, this is a must-listen. The best companies don't track everything. They pick something and go prove it works. ----------------------------------------------------- Want answers now? 🔎 The fastest way to understand what’s actually driving pipeline and revenue → All your data, connected, so you can see what’s working and what to do next. [Get your full pipeline & revenue breakdown in 2 weeks] ----------------------------------------------------- Not ready for that yet? 🎯 Understand why it’s been so hard to see what’s working → We’ll show you where your visibility breaks and why your current model can’t answer these questions. [Apply for a 1-hour working session] ----------------------------------------------------- 🎥⁠ JOIN our Weekly Recordings on Wednesday at 1pm ET / 10am PT: [RSVP for GTM Live] ----------------------------------------------------- This episode is powered by ⁠Passetto⁠. If your marketing dashboards aren't giving you straight answers, you're in good company. Most Marketing teams simply don't have the visibility to understand how they are driving pipeline and revenue and where budget is being wasted. Passetto changes that, giving marketing leaders the comprehensive data they need to act with confidence.

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4.8 out of 5
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Corinne Cavanaugh 2026/01/23
Real, real.
Carolyn and Trevor understand deeply the challenges marketers face and they bring a refreshingly authentic perspective to rev gen. Great podcast!
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nbsfmc 2025/02/20
Used to be better
He’s angrier now that he’s more successful which is a bummer. He’s smart and has done a lot, I’m sure he’s under a lot of pressure. It would be better...
★★★★★
chuckomoss 2024/09/11
Excellent GTM Resource!
Chris is a unique voice on the recurring revenue Revenue Factory made popular by Winning by Design. I recommend that GTM leaders listen and learn from...
★★★★★
Omar M Khateeb 2023/10/13
The only B2B podcast worth subscribing to
Chris Walker redefined demand gen and took it to another level. He’s my go to on all things B2B and this podcast is absolutely fire.
★★★★★
chi-town Pete 2023/03/20
SVP sales
Marketing is not my primary job and these podcasts are really helping me learn about demand generation and marketing strategy. This is also helping me...
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smakcakoa10@$ 2023/01/09
One of my favorite podcasts!
The content Chris and his team put out is invaluable. I’ve learned so much in such a short amount of time!
★★★★★
User review 243157 2022/09/05
A must listen for those in B2B
Chris and team always share the most brilliant ideas in today’s B2B environment. Their ideas challenge the status quo and encourage new ways to think ...
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Create Nickname$$$ 2022/09/01
It’s A No Brainer
This podcast is a no brainer for sales leaders. I’ve been mind blown with a few concepts while others have smacked me in the face with the reality of ...
★★★★★
Dan1777999877 2022/08/31
Don’t miss this marketing gold!
Chris talks all things marketing, not only providing insight we wouldn't have otherwise, but also giving business owners the tools they need to get ha...
★★★★★
Widsmith 2022/07/08
Weekly Must Listen
Chris and his team have a remarkable way of explaining complex issues in simple ways while providing the strategies to help solve issues. Every time I...
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