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Episode 100! Marcus Wiegert on coaching and building Fired Coaches PodcastMarcus Wiegert reflects on the six year journey behind the Fired Coaches podcast. With guest host Jon Stoehr guiding the discussion, Marcus shares how small town Wisconsin, college basketball, coaching turnover, and a major career setback all led to the show. We discuss Marcus’s path from athlete to coach to podcast host, the lessons he took from years in Division III basketball, and why he started creating a space for people to talk honestly about being fired or let go. “I miss being miserable.” - Mike Worrell 02:28 - Why this episode is about Marcus’s story and the podcast’s origin 03:24 - Small town Wisconsin roots and where Marcus’s sports obsession began05:24 - Childhood dreams, scouting interests, and the move toward coaching 06:30 - What track, basketball and football taught him in high school 10:15 - How coaching turnover at Antigo shaped his long term perspective 11:24 - Why he chose Marian 12:36 - Sophomore year breakthroughs and moving from point guard to shooting guard 13:33 - Senior year frustration and team success 15:55 - Starting the college coaching path at UW-Superior 17:37 - D3 culture and Coach Dave Buchanan’s influence 19:03 - Marketing, fundraising, recruiting, development and coaching 20:49 - The return to Marian and doing 30 plus things on-campus 22:26 - The dream job opening and the reality of finishing second 24:49 - Getting the bad news and deciding whether to stay or leave 26:10 - Leaving for summer baseball 31:09 - The idea for Fired Coaches 32:55 - Early goals for the podcast and the first signs it could work 34:20 - Audience growth, consistency, and the pressure to keep improving 37:35 - Goals versus mile markers 39:16 - Why Jon Stoehr prefers to pivot rather than copy rivals 41:51 - The Matt Doherty episode 49:42 - Research methods, AI, and the challenge of asking fresh questions 57:02 - The most outside the box guest and the most nervous interview 61:08 - Curiosity, life changes, and what the podcast has taught him 63:17 - Guests he would love to revisit and keep talking with longer 67:54 - Interviews he’s proud of and when the conversation just clicked 69:24 - What he learned most from guests and how perspective changed 74:23 - Would he coach differently now with everything he has learned 84:45 - Closing praise, congratulations on episode 100, and wrapping up Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.comcoaching, sports leadership, podcasting, resilience, career journey, sports management, small college athletics, sports psychology coaching, podcasting, sports, fired coaches, networking, interview tips, sports psychology, career development

Zach Brandon is a mental performance and leadership coach who previously spent seven years with the Arizona Diamondbacks in mental performance and coach development roles. He now runs MVP Mindset Consulting helping coaches and individuals, has his own podcast called “Win More, Live Better” and his own newsletter, Winning With Words. He was a pitcher at Linfield and won a D3 national title, has worked at IMG Academy, Cal State Fullerton and the previously mentioned Arizona Diamondbacks. Just over a year ago, I think he hosted one of the best podcast episodes of all-time with former Boise State and Washington football coach, Chris Petersen. 01:48 - Managing the long season and mental resilience 04:13 - Transitioning to leadership roles and impact 06:55 - The importance of foundational mental skills 10:14 - Proactive vs reactive mental health strategies 13:04 - The co-creation approach in coaching 16:12 - Building systems for mental skills at home 19:03 - Supporting coaches and addressing burnout 22:00 - The future of mental health in coaching 25:14 - The role of organizations in supporting coaches 28:06 - The importance of coaching oneself 30:52 - Leveraging support and mentorship in coaching 33:55 - Practical techniques for flow and focus Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Ronnie McGill shares how a small-town South Carolina kid who played nearly every position in high school ended up at North Carolina, then worked his way into NFL scouting through a detour in Nashville and a timely introduction. He breaks down what life really looks like inside NFL personnel departments. The tagging and grading process in New England including character, medical and mental flags. Being asked questions on advance scouting by Bill Belichick. He talks about what he learned from working with organizations like the Titans, Patriots, and Texans including why the “Patriot Way” is tough to replicate elsewhere. He shares what he learned from people in the profession like Lake Dawson and Dave Ziegler. He also discusses the realities of the profession, what he misses most about it and the tradeoff between football and family life. Ronnie now has his own consulting company. 02:16 - First scholarship offers and how App State and UNC entered the picture 09:48 - The knee injury and conversation in Nashville 14:17 - Why Lake Dawson changed his view of how to succeed in the NFL 17:28 - The reality of 21-hour workdays in New England and low starting pay 20:28 - Why New England coaches and scouts often had to be developed inside the system 21:23 - Why the Patriots culture was hard to copy elsewhere 24:18 - The tag-heavy scouting system and how New England organized player evals 27:48 - Knowing when to shut it down during marathon workdays 30:44 - What a year-round NFL scout’s lifestyle actually looks like 32:46 - Early mornings and waiver wire deadlines 36:39 - Why Houston felt like the right next step 38:23 - Being the sole expert on a weekly opponent advance 39:43 - How Belichick used questions to test whether staff really did the work 45:43 - Following beat writers and social media for hidden details 48:54 - Choosing family time over the NFL lifestyle 50:53 - Why missing weddings, births, and milestones is part of the job Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Andrew Wingreen talks on building programs from scratch, next-play mentality, and the lessons behind his book Win One Won. Wingreen is the current head men’s basketball coach at New College of Florida (NAIA). Coach Wingreen shares what it takes to launch programs from scratch and the idea of winning one moment at a time. We discuss his path from student assistant to head coach, the value of “losing with” the right people and doing what it takes to staff in the profession. Andrew also previews his next book, Return the Cart, which focuses on culture, small choices, and personal accountability. He has coached at Northland International, Rockford, Bob Jones, Bethel (IN), Lancaster Bible and Stetson. 00:54 - Taking over New College of Florida and building from nothing 06:11 - The heart condition that redirected Andrew from playing to coaching 08:34 - Recruiting to a remote Christian school in northern Wisconsin 10:43 - Moving to Rockford and working multiple jobs 13:29 - Why Bob Jones was hard to say yes to and why he eventually did 16:29 - Losing the head coaching opportunity at Bob Jones 18:39 - The next-play mindset after a sudden career and housing setback 20:23 - How a marriage retreat helped him get Bethel assistant gig 21:34 - Why one year at Bethel was a major career accelerator 23:14 - Getting his first head coaching job at Lancaster Bible 24:47 - Moving to Stetson for a Division I opportunity 29:30 - “Win One One” book 31:29 - What’s next with Return the Cart Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Darren Savino, associate head coach at UCLA and a 30-year Division I veteran, explains his path from playing at St. Anthony in Jersey City to Seton Hall, St. John’s, East Carolina, New Mexico, Quinnipiac, Murray State, Rutgers, Cincinnati, and now UCLA. Coach Savino shares what he learned from Bob Hurley Sr., talked about his Division III playing career, and why genuine relationships have been the backbone of every opportunity he’s earned. We discuss how old-school camp culture helped young coaches network and learn, why being willing to take any job kept Savino in the profession, how a tough stretch without work led him to building a routine, how he found out a job was still open by listening to sports talk radio and his tight knit relationship with Mick Cronin. 01:05 - Growing up with Bob Hurley and learning the game at St. Anthony 02:38 - Jersey City toughness, St. Anthony’s challenges, and a fighter’s mindset 04:03 - Why Division III shaped his love for coaching and the game 05:48 - How camp basketball used to build careers and relationships 9:27 - Seton Hall administrative year taught him how the business works 11:41 - Fran Fraschilla and St. John’s 16:54 - Getting fired at St. John’s 17:53 - Taking a low-paid job at East Carolina 22:39 - How David Pump connected him to Mick Cronin at Murray State 25:21 - Why Murray State worked so quickly and why Coach Cronin stood out as a coach 26:41 - Choosing Rutgers over Cincinnati to be closer to family during a difficult health situation 29:59 - The stressful job search after Rutgers and using Panera Bread as a work base 32:48 - The lesson of building real relationships 38:56 - What 16 years of stability with Coach Cronin has meant at Cincinnati and UCLA 40:30 - How he keeps learning through Euro basketball and reading Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Coach Jim Boone shares his extensive coaching journey, from playing at West Virginia State to leading programs at the Division II and Division I levels. Coach Boone discusses becoming a head coach at a young age, implementing Pack Line Defense, being let go at Eastern Michigan, rebuilding programs, relationships with Don Meyer and Bob Starkey, staying in touch with players and giving back to the game. He has been a head coach at Division I Robert Morris and Eastern Michigan, Division II California University of Pennsylvania, Tusculum, West Virginia Wesleyan, Delta State, Arkansas Fort Smith, Division III Greensboro and currently the head coach at NAIA Missouri Valley College. 02:00 – Early playing days and coaching influences 04:15 – Balancing family and coaching career with an MBA pursuit 10:45 – Transition to head coach at California U of Pennsylvania 13:20 – Building a culture and early successes 16:00 – Turning down opportunities 17:50 – Breaking into NCAA Division I with Robert Morris 20:10 – Growth and success at Robert Morris, rankings, and championships 24:50 – Defensive philosophy: from aggressive press to learning from Dick Bennett with pack line 28:50 – Giving back: clinics, mentorship, and coaching philosophy 30:40 – Moving to Eastern Michigan 36:00 – Leading teams through adversity and resource limitations 39:20 – Reflection on coaching longevity and staying connected 49:55 – The importance of relationships and giving back in coaching Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Listen to Jake von Scherrer's journey through coaching, athletic administration, and podcasting. He spent time at the high school and college level (Umpqua, Missouri Valley College, Norwich). Spending time working in seven different states. He talks about early influences with coaching, adaptability, networking, processes, learning from career setbacks, starting his podcast and much more! 02:30 - Influence of mentors and early coaching experiences 04:10 - Transition from high school to college coaching 09:30 - The importance of documenting processes and systems in coaching 12:15 - Building relationships and navigating change 15:00 - The impact of Steve Prefontaine on Olympic and college track culture 18:00 - Moving across the country and embracing new coaching environments 25:00 - The role of persistence career opportunities 30:00 - Handling setbacks, layoffs, and career transitions 34:10 - Launching and growing the Educational AD Podcast 38:00 - Lessons learned from podcasting and giving others a voice 41:30 - Reflecting on the joys of coaching relationships and community impactFired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Football Coach Mike DuFrane started his career at Division III with playing success at UW-Whitewater where he was part of a national championship program. He spent many years coaching D3 and D2 football across the Midwest (Minnesota-Morris, Carthage, Loras, Marietta, St. Scholastica, Finlandia, Northern Michigan) and is currently an assistant football coach at Enterprise High School in Alabama. This episode dives into roster building, building programs, developing recruiting relationships across Midwest, importance of family and much more! 00:00 - Introduction and Mike’s background from Whitewater to coaching 02:00 - The culture of Whitewater football and its influence 05:00 - Transition from player to coach: early stops at Morris and Carthage 08:00 - Building programs with small rosters during COVID-19 12:00 - Methodologies for recruiting during challenging circumstances 15:00 - The importance of program identity and standing out from traditional powerhouses 18:00 - Creative practice strategies with limited athlete availability 22:00 - Finlandia’s challenges and program shutdown experience 26:00 - Moving to Division II at Northern Michigan and key lessons learned 33:00 - The transition to Alabama: new opportunities and facilities 37:00 - Family-driven decisions and life in the deep south 41:00 - Future outlook and coaching philosophy Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Learn about Coach Jarod Dodson’s football coaching journey. Spending time at Division III, Division II, Division I (FCS and FBS). He talks about his time at South Dakota, Michigan Tech, Buffalo, Old Dominion, South Dakota School of Mines, Alfred State, St. Thomas (MN) and now as the offensive coordinator and associate head coach at Stetson. He talks about Midwest culture, being let go at Alfred State, relationship building, family, transition of divisions, Turner Gill and Lance Leipold at Buffalo, self-growth, honesty and much more! 01:06 - Growing up in California and early football experiences 02:44 - Transition from coaching defense to offense at South Dakota 05:12 - From South Dakota to Buffalo with Turner Gill 12:28 - Lessons learned from coaching changes at Buffalo 15:31 - Handling career setbacks and staying resilient 24:26 - Coaching at South Dakota Mines and building programs from the ground up 26:37 - Becoming head coach at Alfred State 34:33 - Transitioning through multiple levels and the significance of program growth 37:15 - Coach Dotson's upcoming book "Coaching With My Boots On" 38:13 - Family impact and supporting his wife and kids during transitions Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice. Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify! Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespod Follow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Learn about the coaching journey of Chris Kreider, from his humble beginnings playing at Lebanon Valley College to his current role coaching at Georgia Tech. This episode offers insights into growth, adaptability and family balance. His Division I stops at Georgia Tech, Georgia Southern, George Mason, VMI, Rice, Georgia State and SMU. He has also coached high school, NAIA and NCAA Division II. He has worked for Paul Hewitt, Dan Earl, Scott Pera and Rob Lanier at the Division I level. Topics include: job transition, importance of family, networking, leveraging technology, working at a military institution and much more! 01:30 - Chris Kreider’s early coaching roots and background 03:15 - How a missionary upbringing influenced his love for basketball 08:45 - Breaking into coaching through camp circuits and networking 11:20 - Mentorship from Scott Pera and UCLA camp experience 14:50 - First coaching job at Great Falls and lessons learned 18:10 - Transitioning to high school coaching, balancing family, and career decisions 21:30 - Volunteering at USC Aiken and gaining Division II experience 25:10 - Preparing for Division I roles 28:00 - The significance of administrative roles before coaching on the court 31:30 - Transition to Georgia State, SMU, Rice and the impact of coaching under Rob Lanier 34:00 - The importance of family support and managing professional life 36:20 - Full circle moments at Georgia Tech and lessons on reputation 38:00 - Continual growth through learning and technology in coaching 39:00 - Final thoughts on career reflections and future aspirations Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Coach Rob Beckmann explains his journey coaching high school, junior college men's basketball and junior college women's basketball. He has made stops at State College of Florida, Independence Community College and now is the head women's basketball coach at LSU Eunice. He is coming off of back-to-back conference championships and Coach of the Year honors! We talk about what he learned being let go early in his career, building programs, what he loves about the junior college level, mentorship and continuous learning. 02:15 - Starting coaching young and learning from early mistakes 04:50 - Teaching fundamentals through scrimmages and game simulation 07:30 - Building a successful high school program from the ground up 10:00 - The impact of community support and parental influence 13:12 - Transitioning from high school to JUCO and then college coaching 15:45 - Overcoming program cutbacks and resource challenges in small schools 21:35 - The importance of program building and player development 24:41 - Adapting coaching styles to different environments 27:50 - The value of joy, character, and relationships in coaching 30:10 - Reflecting on achievements, setbacks, and future goals 33:11 - The importance of passion and passion-driven work in coaching 37:20 - Quick success at LSU Eunice and building a winning culture 40:21 - The broader impact of basketball: developing character and creating lifelong bonds 43:15 - Continuous growth: Podcasts, books, self-assessment, and staying sharp Favorite Podcasts: Basketball Immersion Slapping Glass Podcast Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

“Who am I? My title was head coach, my title was basketball coach — and now I’m not a basketball coach. Who am I?” - James Williams In this episode we talk about Coach Williams' books and his coaching career. He has coached AAU, high school (Kings Ridge, Norcross, and Charles Drew), Rust, Voorhees and now at South Carolina-Beaufort. He worked for Cabral Huff (Episode 83) at Voorhees and then took over for him as the head coach. During this powerful conversation he talks about coaching, identity, faith, and resilience. Other topics include: wanting to be the coach he never had, a young player’s family situation inspired him to stop drinking, what he learned from coaching elite talent in a high-expectation program, COVID, working for Coach Huff, being fired and servant leadership. Books:The Huddle Matters & Season of Surrender Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Recently retired coach Rick Pietri shares his incredible coaching career spanning high school and college. He was the head women’s basketball coach at Jacksonville State and South Alabama over 26 years. 417 wins, won the Sun Belt and ASUN, has been coach of the year and an all-time leader in wins. He also won a state championship in high school on the boys basketball side. Nearly 40 years in coaching! We discuss the importance of family, connecting, establishing standards, along with the ability to adapt. 02:20 - How management roles in college set the foundation for coaching 04:34 - Early lessons from high school coaching in Mobile 09:01 - Navigating college coaching at Spring Hill and Birmingham Southern 13:20 - Transition from high school to college coaching and the mentorship influence 14:41 - Choosing to coach women at South Alabama 19:27 - Building winning teams and program turnaround strategies 23:28 - Growth in conference competition 28:58 - Dealing with coaching layoff 30:12 - Reaching out to Bill Clark for the Jacksonville State job 33:35 - The role of networking and relationships in career opportunities 39:01 - Leadership principles: standards, consequences, and trust in team success 43:35 - The evolution of conference dynamics and adapting to new environments 47:19 - Reflecting on retirement: family sacrifices and personal growth 54:53 - Future plans: broadcasting, consulting, and staying connected with basketball Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice. Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify! Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespod Follow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

Nick Pasqua shares his journey through the highs and lows of coaching college basketball. He emphasizes lessons learned from early failures, the importance of adaptability, and leadership during challenging times.We talk about Coach Pasqua playing career at King University in Tennessee and transition into coaching at the Division II level. We touch on his stops as a head coach at Tusculum University, Southern Wesleyan University, Converse University and now currently at Coker University in Hartsville, South Carolina. Insights on recruiting winners, transfer portal, program culture, integrity, learning from failure, being yourself and getting better! 01:25 - Influence of Coach Pitts and early coaching opportunities 03:12 - Transition from playing to coaching, and mentorship experiences 05:30 - Challenges faced during initial years at King and Southern Wesleyan 07:15 - Reflection on small gym facilities and recruiting at a small college 09:00 - Building program success with transfers and the impact of the portal 11:01 - Facing competition and administrative changes in collegiate sports 14:37 - The importance of honesty in the hiring process and self-trust 15:35 - Handling expectations, transparency, and program identity 17:42 - Navigating relationships with university leadership during transitions 20:07 - Lessons from early coaching failures and the importance of patience 22:16 - Dealing with setbacks, self-doubt, and resilience building 26:44 - Turning around programs with strategic recruiting and perseverance 31:29 - Overcoming obstacles in conference tournaments and maintaining focus 33:44 - Emotional highs and the significance of supporting your team 37:40 - Building new programs from scratch and the challenge of recruiting 40:44 - Lessons learned through program growth and the importance of leadership support 45:34 - The role of patience, persistence, and studying other teams for development 50:06 - Continuous self-improvement and adapting coaching philosophies 52:45 - Final thoughts on overcoming adversity and inspiring others in coachingFired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/

In this episode we talk to Kyle Morgan. A firefighter of nearly 20 years who has spent time in the scouting space of football. He attended the Scouting Academy with Dan Hatman, worked at Arizona State in Player Personnel, spent time working for Catapult, the NFL Combine and most recently helped launch JUCO Insider Report. We talk about player evaluation, AI, insights of the combine and lessons learned from firefighting. www.jucoinsiderreport.com 00:30 - Kyle’s early football influences at Ohio State and his interest in the game 03:06 - Learning from the Scouting Academy and value of report writing 04:30 - The importance of mentorship and support from Dan Hatman and the Academy 05:31 - Pursuing deeper involvement — from college to NFL scouting roles 06:28 - Hands-on experience at Arizona State and networking efforts 07:25 - Beginning involvement at ASU and how to approach unannounced opportunities 08:52 - Lessons from the Arizona State years and leadership insights 10:20 - The NFL model's influence on college football under Herman Edwards 11:47 - Understanding the layered evaluation process and recruitment cycle 14:01 - Transitioning through COVID and finding new opportunities with Catapult 15:16 - The role of data, scouting at camps, and connecting with high school programs 16:40 - The importance of educating youth and boosting recruiting transparency 19:00 - Involvement in the NFL Combine operations and behind-the-scenes logistics 22:38 - Balancing a firefighting career with a passion for football 23:06 - Lessons from firefighting that benefit football evaluations — staying level-headed 24:08 - The value of process and protocol in firefighting and scouting 26:29 - Creating the JUCO Insider Report to innovate in recruiting and prospect development 27:25 - Using AI and technology to address bottlenecks and support small programs 30:15 - The importance of innovation, resourcefulness, and eliminating resource gaps in scouting 33:14 - Continual personal growth through problem-solving and process enhancement Fired Coaches Podcast will give you perspective of what it is like to lose a coaching position at the college level. Episodes will contain the trials and tribulations that coaches went through and give insight on what matters most. The ONLY podcast dedicated to giving fired, resigned or non-renewed coaches a voice.Make sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Follow on X - https://x.com/firedcoachespodFollow our Newsletter - https://firedcoachespod.beehiiv.com/