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My guest today is Dr Claire Scobie, award winning author of Wild Hope: Stories of Living and Leading in Uncertain Times, her fifth book, out September 1. In our conversation, we talk about how hearing that a tiny marsupial called the Bramble Cay melomys had been declared extinct in 2019 shifted Claire from denial into what she calls wild hope. We explore Prigogine's islands of coherence, how change happens in hyperlocal ways and ripples outward into whole systems, and why storytelling itself is a regenerative practice. Claire shares story after story from the book, from a community social media page in a small Northern Irish town that grew into a national food strategy, to the campaign to make Melbourne's Yarra River swimmable again, to what her husband Aden's Gumbaynggirr culture teaches about a world with no separate word for nature. This was the first time Claire and I had met, and after we stopped recording we kept talking for ages. I loved this conversation, and I know you will too. Claire is the award winning author of Last Seen in Lhasa, an enduring classic about Tibet, The Pagoda Tree and A Baboon in the Bedroom. She has written for the Observer, the UK's Daily Telegraph and the Sydney Morning Herald. Her training in regenerative practice includes the Work That Reconnects methodology and Regenesis, and she draws on applied improvisation and storytelling when she facilitates workshops. Through her company Wordstruck, she and her team help global companies, not for profits and sustainable businesses uncover the stories that shape their work and the change they want to make in the world. 0:00 Welcome and introducing Claire and Wild Hope3:20 The Bramble Cay melomys and the moment denial cracked open8:30 Why it takes time to let ourselves care, and what helps11:30 Lee Robb and the Facebook page that became a national food strategy12:50 How stories myceliate15:30 Aidan's Gumbaynggirr culture: a world with no separate word for nature20:00 Tibet, the Bön religion, and being cracked open by another worldview23:40 Prigogine's islands of coherence and archipelagos of change28:20 The campaign to make Melbourne's Yarra River swimmable again33:40 "That mountain claims you as a human" — flipping the Western view of landscape34:30 Charles Massey's veggie garden paradox38:50 Giles Hutchins on being a Sherpa, not a rescuer40:40 Paul Hawken on real leadership and the degenerative path we're on43:40 Unlikely leaders, and why they rarely see themselves that wayClaire's Links Wild Hope: Stories of Living and Leading in Uncertain Times — out September 1, at all good bookstoresClaire Scobie SubstackI'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

What draws us to the garden — even when we don't have to grow anything? Even when life is full, when grief is heavy, when we barely have a balcony to spare? In this conversation I speak with Hannah Moloney — presenter on ABC Gardening Australia, permaculture educator and designer, climate activist, cabaret performer, author and deliberate optimist. Her new book, Why We Garden: On the Joy and Wonder of Growing Things Even When We Don't Have To, has just been released and it made my heart sing. Hannah surveyed thousands of people about why they garden. The answer that came back from 94% of respondents? Joy. Not food security. Not saving money. Joy. That alone tells us something profound about our relationship with the living world. We talk about: How Hannah came to ask the question "why do we garden?" — and what she discovered when she actually asked it of thousands of people, including Australian icons Bruce Pascoe, Tim Winton, Bob Brown, Costa Georgiadis, Claire Bowditch and Laura TingleGardening as healing — how tending a garden moves grief, rage and heartbreak through the body in ways nothing else quite canThe language we don't yet have in English for that deep sense of knowing, belonging and safety that comes from being in relationship with placeWhy 70–75% of green space in cities is lawn — and what else it could beCuba in the 1990s, guerrilla gardening in 1970s New York, and the Diggers of the 1640s — gardening as ancient and ongoing act of belonging and resistanceHannah's climate justice cabaret Time Rebel, her upcoming walk across Tasmania dressed as an Azure Kingfisher, and why art cracks open hearts in ways expertise alone cannotHer own arc from herb nursery kid who couldn't wait to leave gardening behind — to someone for whom gardening is life's central practiceHannah's call to action is simple and radical: get your hands in the earth, your feet on the ground. This knowledge is already in you. It doesn't need to be learned — only remembered. Find Hannah and her book: Why We Garden — available now at bookstores across Australia and at your local libraryABC Gardening Australia — catch Hannah on screen and at writers festivals across the countryWatch this episode on YOUTUBE I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

What is permaculture design and how can you use it in your daily life? The permaculture design principles are at the heart of the answer to these questions, to understanding what permaculture is about, and how you can apply it to all kinds of contexts.  My guest in this episode of Sense-Making in a Changing World, Wilf Richards, has spent the last three and a half years collaborating with 40 permaculture educators from across Britain and beyond to write The Power of Permaculture Principles - an honest and generous exploration of the permaculture principles. Not a revision. Not a simplification. An invitation to think more deeply about the tools we already hold. This book shares a history of each principle, its development since being formed and an analysis of how they are being used, understood and applied. In our conversation we explore where the principles actually came from, how the language around them has evolved (and where it still needs to), what's missing (resilience, anyone?), why the principles might best be understood as a living system — a tree still growing, still branching — and how they can help all of us, wherever we are, find our way back into right relationship with the rest of nature. Wilf is a permaculture designer and teacher based near Durham in the UK, co-managing a cooperative smallholding since 2001, and a Senior Tutor in the British permaculture diploma system. He came to permaculture through the road protest movement of the mid-1990s — that classic arc from anger at destruction to the desire to build something better — and has been living it on the land and in the community ever since. The Book: https://www.permanentpublications.co.uk/port/the-power-of-permaculture-principles/ Wilf's Linktree: https://linktr.ee/wilf.richards Wilf's email: [email protected] Wilf's Substack: https://wilfrichards1.substack.com/ I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

When supply chains wobble and prices jump, the most powerful thing we can do is reconnect locally. Tianda Williams, co founder of UForage, is helping make local food visible again, from backyard abundance to roadside stalls and small growers. On this episode of Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast we are diving into this super practical local food solution that you can all be part of. UForage is a free, map-based mobile app that connects local growers, makers, and foragers with consumers to share, swap, or sell fresh, local food, effectively acting as a digital "farmers market in your pocket" In 2022, Tianda's family lost their home in the Northern Rivers area to floods. It made them realise the significance of food security, community support and sustainability, and inspired her to find a way to help others, and began creating this app to connect people with local food near them. Uforage maps local food from backyard abundance and roadside stalls to small producers and foraging locations. We talk about how local food access is often shaped by who you happen to meet, and how a simple mapping tool like this can help communities connect, reduce waste, and strengthen resilience during disruptions like floods and supply shortages.  In this episode we explore  How floods, shortages, and being cut off make local connection feel urgent and practical.  What this digital mapping tool works and how you can connect - supporting sharing, swapping, selling, and mapping, without taking transaction fees.  Food waste, hunger, and the quiet abundance already growing around us.  Why “local first” solutions can ripple outward without needing to scale in a centralised way. Links UForage UForage app TIanda's LinkedIn   I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

What if the most radical thing you could do right now is go gently? That is what this conversation left me with. Not a strategy, not a framework, not a list of actions — but this nugget of advice — an invitation. Go gently. Tend what is in front of you. Trust that your bones already know more than your head gives them credit for. Root yourself so deeply in the place you are that you can feel the seasons change in your body before the calendar tells you. Jade Miles lives this — her philosophy and daily practice — in the soil, in the shadows, in the quality of light on a cold north east Victorian morning, in the women's circles by the dam and the school groups sitting barefoot around fires and the 100 varieties of apple that fruit across six different months because someone paid close enough attention to plant them that way. She is the kind of person who makes you feel, within minutes, that rootedness is not a retreat from the world. It is the most generative place from which to tend it. Jade is a local food advocate and educator, author, podcaster, and regenerative heritage fruit farmer at Black Barn Farm in north east Victoria on Palanggang Medang country. She is the CEO of Sustainable Table — supporting the regeneration of food and farming systems across Australia — and the author of Futuresteading and the newly released Huddle, a book about the quiet, necessary art of coming together in the places where we live. We recorded this conversation late last year, not long after Jade had returned from a vision quest — raw, liminal, and freshly cracked open, as she put it. What came through was some of the most honest thinking I have heard about what it actually means to belong to a place, what local food systems can and cannot do alone, and why the tools in our back pocket will never be enough unless we also learn to collectivise them. We talked about Black Barn Farm — 100 varieties of apple, kilometres of berries, school groups arriving weirded out and leaving calm, women's circles by the dam, potluck dinners in the woolshed. We talked about growing up in Gippsland as a permaculture kid, about being locked outside by an eccentric artist father and eating chook pellets during the hungry months and not knowing until much later that this was actually an extraordinary gift. We talked about what it means to land in a place that is not your ancestral homeland and slowly, through community and seasons and the length of the shadows, come to belong there anyway. We talked about the vision quest — the ritualised death of the maiden, the emergence of what comes next. About the part of Jade's life that had been keeping her in her head when her bones knew something different. About the moment she stepped into the sacred circle, took her clothes off, and said out loud: take me home, mama. And we talked about urgency — the question I carry and I suspect you carry too: is what we're doing enough? Jade's answer is one I want to keep close. She goes to the bush. She has two sit spots — one by still water, one by running water — and she lets the noise become quiet. She redefines what enough looks like. She has compassion for herself. Because without that, she says, you are not in a generative way of being. You render yourself useless. You cannot do even what you are already doing. Go gently. Even if only for the next hour. Take a deep breath. This conversation is for anyone tending something — a garden, a community, a food system, a family, a vision — and wondering how far the seeds are actually travelling. About Jade Miles Jade Miles is a local food advocate, educator, author, and regenerative heritage fruit farmer at Black Barn Farm in north east Victoria on Palanggang Medang country. She has spent 25 years watching the agricultural heartbeat of her region slow — and has been quietly, persistently rebuilding it through food coope I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

Coral reefs are often spoken about as beautiful places we visit. In this episode, Sam Teicher brings us into a much bigger understanding, reefs as living systems that support marine biodiversity, sustain livelihoods, protect coasts from storms and erosion, and hold deep cultural meaning for many communities. Coral reefs cover less than 1% of the sea floor, yet support around 25% of marine life. Already 50% have been lost, and 90% may be gone forever in 25 years. Sam is the co founder of Coral Vita, an Earthshot Prize winning reef restoration company that grows corals on land and replants them onto damaged reefs. We talk about what is driving coral decline, including heat stress and bleaching, and why restoring reefs is both an ecological and human imperative. We then explore the practicalities of restoration. Sam explains how Coral Vita uses land based coral farming to control conditions, accelerate growth through microfragmentation, and improve survivorship by identifying and propagating more heat tolerant genotypes, all while working with local communities and building education and employment pathways. We also unpack the idea of a restoration economy. Who pays for reef restoration, how restoration as a service works, what nature positive brands are doing, and why policy, insurance, public health, and security conversations all converge when we talk about ecosystems. Find out more about Coral Vita. Coral Vita Coral Restoration Consortium Instagram Facebook Watch this conversation on youtube I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

In this episode of Sense Making in a Changing World, I speak with regenerative farmer and Bionutrient Food Association founder Dan Kittredge from the United States. Together we explore what it really means to grow nutrient dense food and nourish the microbiome, in the soil and in our own bodies.  Dan shares decades of experience and research that reveal just how wide the gap is between food that truly nourishes and food that simply fills us up. We talk about the huge variation in nutrient levels between different samples of the same crop, why this happens and what it means for human health and climate. We touch on: How two carrots from different farms can have four to ten times difference in key nutrientsWhy labels like organic or local only tell part of the story of food qualityWhat happens when we take soil out of the equation and grow food in hydroponic systemsWhy Dan says we should be growing for the microbiome in the soil and in our own bodiesPractical ways gardeners and farmers can start shifting their practice toward truly nutrient dense foodMy hope is that this conversation helps you look at the food on your plate and the soil under your feet in a new way, and encourages you to keep experimenting in your own gardens, farms, kitchens and communities. I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

In this episode of Sense-Making in a Changing World, I sit down with Abel Pearson – permaculture educator, community food grower and co founder of Glasbren, an award winning community-supported agriculture project in rural Wales. Glasbren began as a three acre permaculture designed market garden and has now moved to Lord’s Park Farm, a 134 acre National Trust property on the cliffs where the Taf and Tywi rivers meet the sea in Carmarthenshire. Abel and his family are the first permaculture based tenants on a National Trust farm, creating a flagship project for nature friendly, community facing farming. In our conversation we explore: Abel’s journey from woofing and natural building to discovering permaculture as “the origin” of everything he now doesHow Glasbren grew from a three acre CSA into a whole farm vision at Lord’s ParkDesigning a landscape and an organisation with permaculture ethics: earth care, people care, fair shareIndigenous and historic food systems as deeply “permacultural” ways of living in reciprocity with landBeingof a place when you may not be from there – and how growing food together becomes daily practice in belongingWelsh language, culture and land Community supported agriculture, food security and the fragility of our current food systemWales’ shift toward agroecology, social value payments for farms, and support for small scale growersThe practicalities of funding and holding a diversified social enterprise farmVolunteering at Glasbren as a pathway into community, wellbeing and climate actionFamily life in the middle of a farm that is also a community hubAbel’s reflections weave beautifully with the core of permaculture education – that we are learning a way of seeing and relating, not just a collection of techniques. This episode is an invitation to slow down, listen to place, and see farms and gardens as sites of cultural and ecological repair. Glasbren website: https://www.glasbren.org.uk _________________________________ I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

What if the forest you walk through is already a food garden, and the real work is remembering how to see it that way? In this episode of Sense Making in a Changing World I am in conversation with writer and public radio host Elspeth Hay about her beautiful new book Feed Us with Trees: Nuts and the Future of Food. Elspeth calls in from her home on Cape Cod and shares how one simple realisation changed everything for her: acorns ARE food. From that moment she began following nut trees back through time and across continents, uncovering oak, chestnut and hazel commons, stories of enclosure and colonisation, and the quiet resilience of people who never stopped tending tree foods. Together we explore how this different way of seeing opens a path toward food systems that feed people and whole ecosystems at the same time. We talk about:  How nut trees like oak, chestnut and hazel can sit at the centre of generous food systems Why perennial tree based polycultures can out produce industrial monocultures once we count the full costs Humans as potential keystone species rather than ecological mistakes Cultural burning, oak woodlands and remembering that our presence can be beneficial Commons, local economies and finding belonging by staying rooted in a placeElspeth invites us to see ourselves as “radical regenerators” who are not just analysing the old story of agriculture, but actively weaving new ones in our own communities. ABOUT ELSPETH HAY  Elspeth Hay is a writer and public radio host based on Cape Cod, Massachusetts. She created The Local Food Report, a weekly program on CAI, the Cape and Islands NPR station, and her work on food and ecology has appeared in places such as the Boston Globe, NPR and Heated with Mark Bittman. Her book Feed Us with Trees: Nuts and the Future of Food explores how nut trees and tree centred cultures can help us reimagine food, history and our ecological role as humans. You can learn more about Elspeth and her work at: elspethhay.com I hope this episode encourages you to look again at the trees around you, the stories you have inherited about food and farming, and the quiet possibilities for belonging that are already rooted in your own place. I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

Learning to Lead Like Life Itself How do we lead in a way that feels alive, kind, and connected to the living world? In this episode of Sense-Making in a Changing World, Morag is joined by Kelly Wendorf, author of Flying Lead Change and founder of EQUUS, whose work brings together horses, neuroscience, and ancient wisdom to reimagine what leadership can be. Kelly shares about leadership as a natural, relational process. Not command and control, but care and connection - moving from hierarchy to harmony. Her principles of leadership — Safety, Connection, Peace, Freedom, and Joy — mirror what we see in every thriving ecosystem. The same qualities that sustain a healthy forest or a permaculture garden can also sustain our families, workplaces, and communities. Morag and Kelly talk about what it means to lead from presence, to cultivate trust rather than fear, and to listen so deeply that the next right action becomes obvious. “The lead horse doesn’t run at the front. She leads from behind, creating safety so others can step into confidence.” Rewilding leadership is about remembering that life already knows how to lead. Our task is to learn again how to be in conversation with it - to listen to the more-than-human world, and to design our cultures, systems, and movements in ways that honour the web of life we’re part of. This is a conversation for anyone sensing that leadership is less about power and more about participation - an invitation to step back into the flow of life and let nature show the way. 🌿 In this episode we explore: What rewilded leadership looks and feels likeHow the wisdom of the herd translates into human relationshipsThe connection between permaculture and leadershipLeading from behind: creating confidence, not controlPresence as a regenerative force in times of changeKelly Wendorf is a leadership coach, educator, and founding partner of EQUUS, an innovative organisation offering experiential learning with horses for leaders and teams. Her book Flying Lead Change: 56 Million Years of Wisdom for Leading and Living explores how nature, neuroscience, and Indigenous understanding can reshape how we live and lead. I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

In this episode of Sense-Making in a Changing World, I speak with acclaimed artist Bryony Kimmings and award-winning projection designer Will Duke about their powerful new theatre work, Bog Witch. Commissioned for the launch season at Soho Theatre Walthamstow, Bog Witch is Bryony’s first solo work in over five years. Known for her fearless, hilarious, and deeply moving autobiographical creations, Bryony has been called “an artist of exceptional integrity, imagination, compassion and guts” by The Guardian. Her work spans theatre, film, and television, including projects with the BBC, Channel 4, and the National Theatre. Will is a leading projection designer whose practice spans opera, theatre, and dance. His acclaimed visual designs have appeared on international stages from the Royal Opera House to the National Theatre. Will is also a student of the Permaculture Education Institute, weaving ecological design principles into both his creative work and daily life. Together, they open up about how storytelling itself can be a form of climate action — using humour, vulnerability, and imagination to re-enchant culture and invite us back into the web of life. I was living hand to mouth, searching for happiness in alcohol and consumer culture — but it didn’t fill the hole in my soul. Nature did.” ~ Bryony Kimmings Storytelling is climate action. It opens hearts where facts alone can’t.” ~ Will Duke We are living in a time when climate narratives risk becoming tired or overwhelming. What Bryony and Will remind us is that culture shifts through stories — stories that make us laugh, cry, grieve, and imagine differently. 🎟 Tickets for Bog Witch: Soho Theatre🌐 Bryony Kimmings🌐 Will DukeI'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

In this inspiring conversation, Morag Gamble speaks with Rob Hopkins - Transition Towns co-founder, author of How to Fall in Love with the Future, and creator of Field Recordings from the Future. Together they explore why imagination is vital for permaculture, community resilience, and regenerative culture, and how anyone can practice imagination activism to create hopeful, practical change. Rob shares stories of playful, community-led projects, his work with sensory futuring, and how cultivating longing rather than fear can mobilise people to act for a thriving future. If you’re a permaculture educator, changemaker, or someone longing for new possibilities, this episode will give you tools and inspiration to nurture imagination in your community. Rob Hopkin's links: Rob Hopkins website: robhopkins.netBook: How to Fall in Love with the FutureRecord: Field Recordings from the Future Key Themes How imagination fuels permaculture and community designTransition Towns and lessons from grassroots changeInspiration from and for permaculture.Sensory futuring and field recordings from the futureCultivating longing vs. anxiety in movements for changeHow to make activism joyful, creative, and effectiveI'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

Join Morag Gamble in this episode with Leah Rampy and Beth Norcross to explore the possibilities of transformative relationships between humans and the more-than-human, and discover the spiritual wisdom of trees.  From deepening our understanding of thoughts beyond language to learning from trees and mycelial networks, they share stories about our connections to nature and our processes of becoming rooted and fluid. On Earth Day this year Leah & Beth released a book together called, Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees, exploring: Moving from science to spirit: how forestry and ecology meet mystery.Trees as spiritual beings and patient teachers.The loneliness of isolated trees—and what it teaches us about human community.Practices to connect more deeply with trees wherever you are.Cracking open: the vulnerable yet transformative journey of opening to nature’s wisdom.Leah Rampy is a writer, speaker, and retreat leader living in a co-housing community who weaves ecology, spirituality, personal stories, and practices to help others deepen their relationship to the natural world. She is the founder and leader of Church of the Wild Two Rivers, and co-founded Save Our Soil - a volunteer organisation promoting soil health, local food, native plants, and regenerative agriculture. Beth Norcross is a passionate spiritual guide, author, naturalist, TEDx speaker, and founder of The Center for Spirituality in Nature. She offers nature's wisdom for living with connection, resilience, joy, and hope, particularly in challenging and uncertain times.  I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

This episode, Rebecca Tickell - an award-winning documentary filmmaker, passionate storyteller and environmental activist - joins to explore the art of regeneration. Rebecca creates films, like 'Common Ground' and 'Kiss the Ground', that combine powerful cinematography with a hopeful movement for soil regeneration and health. In a world where extractive systems of agriculture and development have destroyed two thirds of the world’s topsoil and exacerbated climate change to dangerous levels, we have two decades to restore what has been lost. Amongst the crisis, Rebecca shows us how to reground and regenerate - wherever you are with, whatever you have. Tune in to get inspired and you can find more of Rebecca’s work at her website. I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.

Tune into this episode with Poppy Okotcha, ecological home grower and community gardener, to hear about how we can rewild our relationship to the land around us - in our backyards and beyond! Poppy has just released a book, ‘A Wilder Way: How Gardens Grow Us’, a beautiful memoir on her connection to her garden and how settling down her roots in tending a patch of land has helped her grow as an individual and explore how we can all grow a better world. Flipping the narrative from humans being in control of gardens to being part of the garden itself is such an important shift! From the process of writing her book to the holistic process of rewilding ourselves, this conversation with Poppy really uplifted me - I hope you enjoy it too! To find Poppy’s work and her book, visit her website. I'd love to hear from you. Text me here. Support the show _____ MORAG GAMBLE Founder, Permaculture Education Institute Morag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast on YouTubePodcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness. In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be? This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care.  This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country. If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.