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Only 23% of K-12 educators in America are male, a gender gap that has serious ramifications for male students - who often face DISPROPORTIONATE disciplinary action. This podcast is for male educators who want to embody a necessary change in schools, via healthy social-emotional outcomes. Come away with actionable lesson plans, relatable stories, and a renewed purpose. The US Surgeon General says the mental health of our youth is the "crisis of our time." Male educators are uniquely positioned to address this - because real men teach. Join our community: "Advocates for Young Men" at Skool.com
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#E66 | Bishop Foreman on Transformational Teaching, Leadership, and Teaching for Real Impact
2026/04/21
Ashanti sits down with Bishop Foreman for an honest and powerful conversation about leadership, education, and the masks we wear.
This episode explores what it means to lead while carrying pain, why consistency can become overcommitment, and how childhood experiences often shape the way adults show up as educators, mentors, and leaders. Bishop Foreman also shares why the best teachers do more than deliver information. They help students think, connect, and transform.
If you are an educator, school leader, mentor, coach, or anyone who works with young people, this conversation offers both reflection and practical insight.
In this episode:
The masks Ashanti and Bishop Foreman wear in public and what they carry underneath
The connection between childhood instability and adult leadership patterns
Why authenticity matters in teaching and leadership
How to move from information delivery to transformational teaching
Why educators should focus on the takeaway, not just the lesson
How engagement, humor, and interaction help students learn
Why students need adults who can connect before they can truly teach
Timestamps:
00:06 Welcome and opening reflections
00:14 Meet Bishop Foreman
00:30 Bishop Foreman on leadership, impact, and honoring educators
01:21 His early love of teaching and starting a business at age 12
03:47 Ashanti on entrepreneurship, schools, and setting up the mask activity
05:32 Ashanti shares his mask
08:32 Bishop Foreman shares his mask
13:39 Consistency, leadership, and knowing when to let something go
15:34 Childhood responsibility, protecting others, and emotional attachment in leadership
19:44 Ashanti connects with the role of protector in his own story
20:40 Working with adults, youth, and communicating across audiences
22:56 Speaking with energy and connecting beyond information
24:37 Youth attention spans and the challenge to make learning worth their time
26:46 Moving from reacting to students toward building growth-centered structures
28:45 Starting with the end in mind and teaching for transformation
30:02 Why many educated people are not taught to think critically
31:14 Social media, swipe culture, and shrinking attention spans
32:38 Teaching critical thinking instead of just content
33:14 The educators Bishop Foreman still remembers and why they mattered
36:36 How to connect with Bishop Foreman
39:32 Closing invitation to share your mask anonymously
Resources & Links Mentioned
bishopforeman.com
Text “BISHOP” to 55498 for discounts on books, coaching, and resources
Connect with Bishop Foreman
Website: bishopforeman.com
Social media: @BishopForeman
Join/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
Join our Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/efc-young-mens-advocates-2345
Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas, Email us: [email protected]
Create your mask anonymously: https://millionmask.org/
Connect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
X: https://x.com/BranchSpeaks
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
Help us continue creating spaces for young men to be seen, heard, and supported:
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/branch-speaks/support
Connect with Ever Forward Club
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everforwardclub
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X: https://x.com/everforwardclub
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/
#UnMASKingWithMaleEducators #EmotionalSafety #MaleEducators #AuthenticLeadership #EducatorWellbeing #BehindTheMask
#65 | Alexander Kopelman on Authenticity, Creativity, and Helping Children Stay Real
2026/04/17
In this conversation, Ashanti sits down with Alexander Kopelman, founding president and CEO of the Children’s Arts Guild, to explore authenticity, identity, creativity, and what it means to help children thrive as whole human beings. Together, they reflect on the masks adults wear, the stories we carry from childhood, and how our own fears, wounds, and expectations can shape the way we show up for young people. Alexander shares his journey as a refugee from the Soviet Union, the origins of the Children’s Arts Guild, and the heart behind his book, For Real: Helping Children Remain Their Authentic Selves in a Limiting World.
How identity gets shaped by what others assume about us
Why creativity can open doors to honesty, vulnerability, and emotional safety
How the Children’s Arts Guild began through work with boys and creative expression
A powerful moment from a kickball game that opened a conversation about crying and grief
Why adults in a child’s ecosystem matter just as much as the child-focused program itself
Why children need to be allowed to fully be the age they are
How post-pandemic expectations may still be out of step with where children really are
00:02 Welcome to UnMASKing with Male Educators
00:35 Meet Alexander Kopelman
01:41 Alexander introduces the Children’s Arts Guild and For Real
02:09 Coming to the U.S. as a refugee and rebuilding identity
03:13 Assumptions, religion, and being seen from the outside
05:25 Choice, identity, and the masks we wear
14:39 Creative mortification and the fear of drawing
17:34 How Alexander’s work with boys and adults began
21:25 Kickball, crying, and the moment things shifted
23:15 Why working with adults became essential
25:09 Authenticity as a framework for educators and parents
27:12 What games can reveal about fairness, emotion, and behavior
29:17 Why adults need inner work and practice too
31:45 Men’s work, circles, and learning to trust the process
35:31 Realizing there were no men in his life
37:04 New Warrior training and recognizing inner voices
40:20 Parenting, anxiety, and reacting from fear
41:35 What For Real offers adults
43:34 Letting children be the age they are
44:19 Post-pandemic development and shifting expectations
46:41 A final reminder for parents and educators
47:28 How to connect with Alexander
48:34 Closing invitation
Resources & Links Mentioned
Children’s Arts Guild
For Real: Helping Children Remain Their Authentic Selves in a Limiting World
Authenticity Works — Alexander’s website
millionmask.org — share your mask anonymously
Mankind Project
Girls Inc.
Connect with Alexander Kopelman
Website: authenticityworks.org
Book website: forrealbook.org
Join/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
Join our Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/efc-young-mens-advocates-2345
Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas, Email us: [email protected]
Create your mask anonymously: https://millionmask.org/
Connect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
X: https://x.com/BranchSpeaks
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
Help us continue creating spaces for young men to be seen, heard, and supported:
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/branch-speaks/support
Connect with Ever Forward Club
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everforwardclub
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/everforwardclub
X: https://x.com/everforwardclub
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/
#UnMASKingWithMaleEducators #AlexanderKopelman #Authenticity #CreativeExpression #EmotionalSafety #WholeChild #MaleEducators #Parenting #ChildDevelopment #Healing
#64 | Jason Biehl on White Discomfort, Belonging, and the Work of Healing
2026/04/01
In this thoughtful and timely conversation, Ashanti sits down with educator, facilitator, and author Jason Biehl to explore masculinity, whiteness, emotional honesty, and what it means to nurture healthy belonging for boys and men. Together, they reflect on the fears, grief, and uncertainty many young people are carrying right now, and why adults must be willing to face discomfort, tell the truth, and model courage in order to create more emotionally safe communities.
Jason also shares about his upcoming four-part graphic memoir series, Unicorns: A Memoir for Young White Men, beginning with On White Discomfort, and explains why this work matters so deeply in this moment.
In This Episode, We Talk About:
What Ashanti and Jason are carrying on the front and back of their masks
Why hope, honesty, and vulnerability are essential in hard times
The fears young people are holding about safety, identity, and the future
How masculinity, whiteness, and patriarchy shape belonging and disconnection
Why discomfort can be a necessary part of learning, growth, and healing
The importance of creating spaces where boys and young men can tell the truth
Jason’s new graphic memoir series, Unicorns, for young white men
Why adults and educators must stop waiting for crisis before doing proactive work
Timestamps:
00:00 Discomfort, healing, and growth
00:34 Episode preview
01:25 Welcome to UnMASKing with Male Educators
02:02 Meet Jason Beale
04:26 Working with white men, boys, and belonging
06:52 Ashanti shares his mask
09:41 Jason shares his mask
12:24 “Hope is a discipline”
14:35 Fear, silence, and speaking up
16:28 Why more men need skin in the game
17:03 Bullying, fear, and self-silencing
19:08 Social media vs real courage
21:09 What young people are carrying right now
23:33 What gives Jason hope
26:00 The need for healthier role models
28:25 Why white discomfort matters
30:49 Othering, privilege, and race
33:15 Tulsa, erased history, and truth
38:09 Algorithms and echo chambers
40:30 Why schools wait for crisis
42:54 Boys, patriarchy, and accountability
45:16 Jason’s Unicorns book series
46:19 Closing invitation
Resources & Links Mentioned
Change the Narrative — Jason’s website
Unicorns: A Memoir for Young White Men
Nurturing Healthy Belonging series for young men and boys
millionmask.org — share your mask anonymously
Talk to Your Boys by Christopher Pepper and Joanna Schroeder
Connect with Jason Biehl
Website: changethenarrative.me
Join/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
Join our Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/efc-young-mens-advocates-2345
Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas, Email us: [email protected]
Create your mask anonymously: https://millionmask.org/
Connect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
X: https://x.com/BranchSpeaks
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
Help us continue creating spaces for young men to be seen, heard, and supported:
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Connect with Ever Forward Club
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/
#UnMASKingWithMaleEducators #JasonBeale #MaleEducators #HealthyMasculinity #Belonging #EmotionalSafety #AntiRacism #SocialJusticeEducation #YoungMen #VulnerabilityIsStrength
#63 | Real Men Teach, Retaining Male Educators, & Strong Friends Still Need Help w/ Curtis Valentine
2026/03/24
What does it cost to always be seen as the strong one?
In this conversation, Curtis Valentine, founder of Real Men Teach and founder in residence with the American Institute for Boys and Men, joins Ashanti to talk about what it takes to recruit, support, and retain men of color in education. They explore the stereotype that men of color should always be the strong ones, how Real Men Teach grew from a local school board effort into a national movement, why male educators leave classrooms, and what schools can do to create the kind of support that helps them stay.
Listen and apply these takeaways to your life and leadership:
Strong friends still need help. The expectation that men of color should always carry pressure quietly can make support harder to ask for and harder to receive.
Representation matters, but recruitment is only the beginning. If schools want men of color to stay, they need real community, care, and systems of support.
Movements can start with something simple. Real Men Teach began as a local effort and grew through outreach, relationships, and shared purpose.
Men don’t just leave classrooms because they stop caring. They leave when the conditions around them make it difficult to sustain the work.
School change takes partnership. This episode is a reminder that improving schools requires people to bring their ideas, their networks, and their willingness to build with others.
Everyone can do a little bit. Whether it’s joining a movement, supporting educators, or collaborating with mission-driven organizations, meaningful change grows through collective action.
00:48 Welcome to Unmasking with Male Educators
02:25 Meet Curtis Valentine
03:17 Curtis’ background + the mission behind Real Men Teach
07:17 How Real Men Teach started: 100 texts, 100 yeses
11:51 The “strong friend” mask and why support still matters
13:02 Why male educators need to model honesty
15:36 The mask question: what students see vs. what they do not
16:50 Curtis on confidence, preparation, and insecurity in teaching
20:19 A story from teaching abroad: learning while leading
24:11 Why great educators stay open to learning from students
27:34 Why more men do not enter or stay in teaching
33:25 Curtis’ classroom story: underprepared, unsupported, and thrown in
35:50 The real barriers facing men of color in education
38:13 Men need purpose, accountability, and clear roles
41:06 Letting male educators teach in authentic ways
43:09 Why boys learn differently and schools need to respond
45:47 The cost of being “the exception”
47:49 How to support Curtis and Real Men Teach
49:06 Closing reflections and outro
Connect with Curtis Valentine
Real Men TeachAmerican Institute for Boys and MenJoin/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
Join our Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/efc-young-mens-advocates-2345
Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas, Email us: [email protected]
Create your mask anonymously: https://millionmask.org/
Connect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
X: https://x.com/BranchSpeaks
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
Help us continue creating spaces for young men to be seen, heard, and supported:
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/branch-speaks/support
Connect with Ever Forward Club
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/
#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #MaleEducators #RealMenTeach #CurtisValentine #MenInEducation #BlackMaleEducators
#62 | Breathwork, Calm, & Impacting Lives - with Shalin Desai
2026/03/18
What if the way through stress isn’t to push harder, but to learn how to come back to yourself?
In this conversation, Shalin Desai, engineer, Art of Living Foundation leader, and breathwork teacher, shares how being introduced to these practices at 16 changed the direction of his life. Ashanti and Shalin talk about the masks men wear, the fear of failure, the calm we can carry behind the mask, and why breath is one of the most practical tools we have for working with stress and emotion. They also explore skepticism around contemplative practices, the difference between hearing “be present” and actually knowing how.
Listen and apply these takeaways to your life and leadership:
The mask of competence can hide a real fear of failure, pressure, and self-judgment, and naming that matters.
Calm is not the absence of responsibility; it’s the ability to carry life without letting stress become your identity.
The real question isn’t just “be present,” it’s “how?” Shalin points to breath as a direct tool for working with emotional patterns.
Breath and emotion are connected: when the breath changes, your internal state can change too.
This work becomes real when it restores purpose. Shalin shares a story about a participant who arrived hopeless and left wanting to live.
Skepticism doesn’t disqualify anyone. People from many backgrounds can benefit without giving up who they are.
(0:00) Meet Shalin Desai + how Art of Living became part of his life
(2:54) Shalin’s origin story: his mother’s healing, finding the course at 16, and discovering breathwork early
(8:57) Ashanti’s own Art of Living journey + wondering what shifts when young people learn peace sooner
(10:19) The masks we wear: competence, fear of failure, calm, irritation, and ending the day without regret
(13:50) “That sounds good, but how?” bringing spiritual ideas into real-life stress
(15:21) The connection between breath and emotions + why breathwork is practical, not abstract
(17:42) A participant’s suicide note story + what happens when someone reconnects to purpose
(20:20) Skepticism, openness, and why people are more ready now to try meditation and breathwork
(22:37) Research, results, and why this work keeps spreading
(26:50) Types of Art of Living courses + why the practice has to continue beyond one experience
(32:07) Emotional overload, algorithms, polarization, and making impact from calm instead of frustration
Connect with Shalin Desai
Website: artofliving.org
Instagram: @shalindesai
Join/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
Join our Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/efc-young-mens-advocates-2345
Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas
Email us: [email protected]
Create your mask anonymously: https://millionmask.org/
Connect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
X: https://x.com/BranchSpeaks
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
Help us continue creating spaces for young men to be seen, heard, and supported:
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Connect with Ever Forward Club
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/
#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #breathwork #artofliving #emotionalwellness #mensmentalhealth #meditation #wellnessineducation #selfawareness #healingjourney #podcast
#61 | 57 Pounds: Healing Myself While Fighting for Our Young People
2026/03/10
Welcome to UnMASKing with Male Educators. In this episode, Ashanti shares a deeply personal update on his health and wellness journey, reflecting on what it has meant to continue detoxing, stay committed to a plant-based lifestyle, and push through both physical and emotional barriers along the way.
But this conversation goes beyond the scale. Ashanti connects his fight for health to the realities of being an educator, the sacrifices so many teachers make, and the urgency of creating safer, more responsive spaces for young people in our schools.
From chronic pain and food addiction to advocating for students and supporting educators, this episode is a powerful reminder that healing, wellness, and school transformation are all connected.
As UnMASKing with Male Educators continues to explore what it means to show up fully for ourselves and our students, this episode invites you to reflect on your own journey, your own wellness, and the ways we can all do better for young people.
(0:00) 2026 update and a recap of the detox journey so far
(2:20) The emotional battle of hovering near 300 pounds
(4:48) Breaking below 300 for the first time in years
(6:30) Chronic pain, health, and fighting for your life
(7:20) January detox results and total weight released since September
(9:40) Learning which foods fuel wellness and which ones don’t
(10:50) The sacrifices educators make in service of others
(12:10) Supporting young people when schools miss the signs
(14:36) Why educators must pay closer attention to what’s happening in their classrooms
(16:59) Starting school transformation one classroom at a time
(19:22) Bay Area teacher strikes and what they reveal about educator value
(21:45) A visual update on the journey and an invitation to join the Million Mask Movement
Join/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
Join our Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/efc-young-mens-advocates-2345
Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas
Email us: [email protected]
Create your mask anonymously: https://millionmask.org/
Connect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
X: https://x.com/BranchSpeaks
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
Help us continue creating spaces for young men to be seen, heard, and supported:
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/branch-speaks/support
Connect with Ever Forward Club
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everforwardclub
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/everforwardclub
X: https://x.com/everforwardclub
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/
#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #totm #UNWME #diaryofaconfusededucator
#60 | School Social Work, Grief, & the Boundaries That Keep You in the Work - with Justin Martinez
2026/03/04
One social worker. One campus. A hundred invisible fires.
In this conversation, Justin Martinez, a Bay Area high school school social worker, assistant baseball coach, and facilitator of a young men’s group called “Are You Man Enough?”, breaks down what it really takes to support students with high needs without losing yourself in the process. Justin shares how his own story (foster care, domestic violence, and becoming a first-gen graduate) shaped his purpose, what he keeps behind the “leader” mask, and why the hardest lesson for helpers is also the most freeing: you can’t save anyone… but you can hand them the keys.
Listen and apply these takeaways to your school:
The “crown” mask: what it looks like to be the steady leader at school, mentor, role model, coach, while carrying grief and pressure underneathCountertransference in real life: how to notice when a student’s story hits your own… and not let it bleed into the relationshipTwo lenses, one campus: why wellness teams and disciplinary systems clash, and how students pay the price when adults aren’t aligned“I can’t save anyone” isn’t cold, it’s a boundary: how over-functioning creates burnout (and attaches your worth to outcomes you can’t control)The keys metaphor: “I can walk you to the door and hand you the keys… but you have to open it.”What school social workers actually do: wellness check-ins, crisis triage, re-regulation spaces, risk assessments, referrals, and constant problem-solvingAccountability with care: holding young men to a higher standard without talking down to themReal strength includes rest: the crown is heavy… and strong men still take it off
(0:00) Class in session + meet Justin Martinez
(2:38) Justin’s story: foster care due to domestic violence + becoming a first-gen grad to return and be what he needed
(10:10) Behind Justin’s mask: grief, countertransference, walking on eggshells, inequity, targeted students, and “I can’t save anyone”
(15:10) “I can’t save anyone” + the keys/door framework (resources, boundaries, and surrendering outcomes)
(20:50) Learning the boundary the hard way: wanting to “fix” a family’s crisis and hitting system limits
(27:31) A day in school social work: QR code referrals, wellness check-ins, re-regulation room, crisis calls, risk assessments
(33:14) Biggest challenge: collaborating with staff when lenses don’t match—and harmful narratives about students persist
(36:10) Why schools need more men in wellness roles: impact, mentorship, emotional modeling
(38:57) What young men are facing: accountability, consequences, pressure, and future-focus conversations
(43:35) Closing question: “How heavy is that crown?” + grief, family weight, and learning when to take it off
Connect with Justin Martinez
Instagram: @just_in_tiime_
Join/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
Join our Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/efc-young-mens-advocates-2345
Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas
Email us: [email protected]
Create your mask anonymously: https://millionmask.org/
Connect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
X: https://x.com/BranchSpeaks
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
Help us continue creating spaces for young men to be seen, heard, and supported:
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/branch-speaks/support
Connect with Ever Forward Club
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everforwardclub
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/everforwardclub
X: https://x.com/everforwardclub
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ever-forward-club/
#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #totm #schoolsocialwork #studentwellness #teacherretention #mentorship #mensmentalhealth #emotionalwellness #restisstrength #youthadvocacy
#59 | The Mentorship Lineage of Black Male Educators: Jacob Cory Gold, Dr. Willie Williams, Reginald Williams — Belief, Masks, and the Seeds That Outlive You
2026/02/25
Three Black male educators. Three generations of impact. One powerful through-line: belief.
In this conversation, Jacob (Cory Gold), Dr. Willie Williams, and Reginald Williams unpack what it means to teach while carrying a mask, showing strength, joy, fairness, and love… while holding grief, pressure, mental health, and the realities of being a young Black man in a profession where you’re often the only one. You’ll hear how mentorship travels: teacher → student → teacher → the next student… and how small moments in schools become lifelong turning points.
Listen and apply these takeaways to your school:
Belief as a daily practice: what it looks like to “clock in” for kids like a coach—showing up early, present, and intentionalFairness vs. equality: how “being strict but understanding” builds trust (and why students can smell a facade)The mask exercise (front + back): what educators show the world vs. what we carry behind the smileWhy teaching is still a “dangerous” profession for Black folks: the weight of history, politics, and protecting students without drowning themPlanting seeds that go home: phrases, routines, and presence that outlive the classroom and come back 15 years later
(0:00) Class in session + meet Jacob “Cory Gold,” Dr. Willie Williams, and Reginald Williams
(1:30) Jacob introduces himself: “walking in the light” as a spiritual being inside school buildings
(2:10) Dr. Willie: meeting Jacob as a high school student who needed someone to slow him down
(4:10) Reginald: why he became a teacher, representation, trust, and seeing leadership up close
(6:45) Mask exercise explained: 3 words on the front, 3 on the back
(7:25) Reginald’s mask: fairness/justice, passion, strict-but-understanding + joy, intention, hiding the lows
(10:30) Jacob’s mask: joy, intention, light, love + poverty background, hunger check-ins, leading with questions
(15:10) Dr. Willie’s mask: God, love, strength + protecting students politically, mental health, and dating as a Black male educator
(22:00) Ashanti’s mask: caring/serious/passionate + worry, self-doubt, family weight
(26:40) The big question: “How does belief in your students show up every day?”
(31:05) Reginald: the “lightbulb moment” and why students want their teacher back after a sub
(33:10) Jacob reflects on impact: gratitude for seeing the “increase” across generations
(41:00) Reginald on planting seeds: being uniquely yourself, meeting students where they are
(44:45) Willie: teaching as “dangerous” historically + the need for community among Black male educators
(50:15) Dr. Willie: more eye-level conversations + Book #18: The Black Male Resiliency Experience
Connect with the Guests
Dr. Willie Williams
Book: The Black Male Resiliency Experience
Company: Accepted Admissions (educational consulting)
Jacob (Cory Gold)
Shares “All Things Light” content (YouTube/Instagram)
Reginald Williams
Educator (Year 3) + community builder through clubs/activities/coaching energy
Join/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
Join our Skool Community: https://www.skool.com/efc-young-mens-advocates-2345
Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas
Email us: [email protected]
Create your mask anonymously: https://millionmask.org/
Connect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
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#58 | “Recruiting Someone Back to the Scene of a Crime”: Sharif El-Mekki, Black Men in Education, & the Work Schools Avoid
2026/02/18
This episode is a masterclass in what it really costs to be a Black man in education and what it takes to build something better. Sharif El-Mekki (Center for Black Educator Development) breaks down the “trifecta” that grinds educators down, why many recruitment efforts are ill-informed and unserious, and how a student-led rallying cry became a national pipeline movement: #WeNeedBlackTeachers. Listen and apply these takeaways to your school tomorrow:
Why “work twice as hard to get half as far” can become a trap and where the pressure should go (the system, not the child)
The educator “mask” that looks like strength…but is really stoicism, compartmentalization, and survival
What changes when you stop separating your lived experience from your teaching: students become more demanding (and that’s a good thing)
“Raised Woke” and the power of student agency: when young people start making real demands, like meeting real Panthers
The Black educator pipeline problem, the leaky retention reality, and why retention is the strongest recruitment strategy
The 3Ps framework: Policy & Advocacy, Professional Development, Pathways—and what it looks like in real schools
The mental health toll on Black male educators: experiencing bias as a kid, as a professional, and deciding whether to protect kids in the same system
(0:00) Class in session + meet Sharif El-Mekki(1:15) Philly Seventh Ward + why Du Bois still matters
(2:35) “Stop telling Black boys they need to be twice as good” + the John Henry warning
(6:05) The mask question: what we show vs. what we carry
(9:35) Ashanti’s mask: purpose on the front, fear + political anger behind it
(12:10) Sharif’s mask: love for community on the front, stoicism + withholding his story behind it
(19:55) What students do when you bring your full self: “Raised Woke,” demands, and agency(24:20) Center for Black Educator Development + rebuilding a national Black teacher pipeline
(26:05) The 3Ps: policy/advocacy, professional learning, pathways
(27:10) The high school pathway: teaching as CTE + Black pedagogical framework
(33:15) The convening: not a conference—work, community, action (9th annual this fall)
(39:35) Men’s mental health + the “trifecta” that grinds Black educators down
(41:55) Retention playbook + why anti-racist ecosystems retain educators
(45:30) Where to follow + how to get registration updates: #WeNeedBlackTeachers
(46:20) Show your mask anonymously + closing
(47:10) The intergenerational power: high school + college + veteran educators in the same room
Connect with Sharif El-Mekki / Center for Black Educator Development
We Need Black Teachers (updates + newsletter): weneedblackteachers.org
Hashtag: #WeNeedBlackTeachers
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#57 | From “I Never Wanted to Teach” to Transforming 50+ Schools: Kyle Sumrow, Robby Cobbs, & the Real Work Behind EdTech
2026/02/11
This is the story of two educators who never planned to become educators, and ended up building an edtech nonprofit that’s served 50+ schools in Puerto Rico. Robby Cobbs and Kyle Sumrow break down the “international teaching cheat code,” the masks they wear as leaders, and how they turned frustration into a system that helps schools build real tech plans (not PDFs that die in a Google Drive). Listen and apply these takeaways to your school tomorrow:
Why “dignity” matters more than “respect”, and how that mindset changes your classroom and your leadershipFairness vs. equality (the glasses example) + why “kindness all the time” isn’t soft, it’s strategicThe power of community when you’re far from home: international schools, brotherhood, and what “family” can mean when it’s built (not forced)How TechMySchool was born in Puerto Rico, no libraries, not enough books, and one question that sparked a movement(0:00) Class in session + meet Robby Cobbs and Kyle Sumrow
(0:30) Robby’s origin story: from “no teacher dreams” to finding home in schools
(5:30) Teaching in inner-city schools + the travel bug that changed everything
(7:00) International teaching explained (housing, flights, medical, taxes)
(13:35) Kyle’s journey: music school → bus driver → subbing → “this is what I want to do”
(18:50) Teaching as the ultimate learning hack (bio → CS → film → audio → auto)
(30:10) “Family” in international schools—when community builds itself
(35:40) The “mask” exercise: what you show vs. what you carry as a leader
(38:00) Kyle’s mask: dignity, fairness, growth and the unseen leadership habits
(41:30) Robby’s mask: confident leader, service, empathy and the hidden frustration behind nonprofit work
(52:20) TechMySchool origin story: Puerto Rico schools, no libraries, and scaling from 1 school to 50+
(55:15) “Week Without Walls” + bringing students to other places for perspective shifts
(1:09:50) How to support + the Caribbean edtech conference (April 10–11)
(1:11:10) TechPlanGenie: AI-powered tech planning + accountability + end-of-year report
Connect with Robby Cobbs + Kyle Sumrow / TechMySchool:
Website: techmyschool.org
Instagram/Facebook: Tech My School
Caribbean EdTech Conference: April 10–11
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Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas
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#56 | ICE, Alex Pretti, & Emotional Landmines: What Our Students Are Carrying (and What Schools Can Do Now)
2026/02/04
In this episode, Ashanti Branch shares what he’s been witnessing in schools and in the broader social climate surrounding ICE, Alex Pretti, and how it shows up in students’ bodies, behavior, and sense of safety. He opens with a lunch conversation with a group of young men who name the pressures they feel: expectations, relationships, emotions, and not always having someone they trust when they’re struggling.
From there, Ashanti expands into a bigger message for educators and communities: when young people (and adults) don’t have a safe way to release what they’re carrying, they can end up walking around like “emotional landmines”, until one moment sets everything off.
Don’t wait for a crisis to make emotional well-being a priority. Ask students how they’re doing, build spaces for honest conversation, and use mask-making as a practical tool for connection and healing.
A lunch conversation with young men: pressure, relationships, emotions, and trust“Emotional landmines” and what happens when people store it all upMasculinity, power, and what violence can look like when manhood feels threatenedStories that show the impact of fear and rhetoric on young peopleWhy silence (and “staying in our lane”) isn’t a protection planA direct invitation to educators: be proactive, not reactiveHow mask-making can open honest conversations in your school/community(0:00) Welcome + why Ashanti is speaking directly in this solo reflection
(2:18) Lunch with young men: emotions, expectations, trust, and vulnerability
(4:10) Naming “emotional landmines” and feeling the pressure personally
(5:51) Early life reflections + how we learn to see the world clearly
(7:54) A quote that frames masculinity, power, and the threat of equality
(12:08) A young person’s testimony: “How can I focus on school when I’m worried about my family?”
(16:06) “What are we willing to do to protect what we say we believe?”
(18:57) A story about a 10-year-old boy and the ripple effects of fear and threats
(21:41) Why people “store it up” until one moment becomes an explosion
(22:02) Protests, speaking out, and finding your lane for action
(26:59) A direct ask for educators: don’t wait for crisis—create emotional support now
(29:21) Invitation: make a mask, invite others, and build connection before the “boom”
Join/Contribute to our Young Men’s Conference: https://everforwardclub.org
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Submit Questions, Reflections, or Episode Ideas
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#55 | Show Your Work: Language, Masculinity, and the Future of Learning – w/ Dr. Mark Anthony Neal – Professor, Duke University
2026/01/28
What happens when “being professional” quietly turns into “being unseen”?
In this episode of unMASKing with Male Educators, Dr. Mark Anthony Neal, Black Studies scholar, writer, and professor at Duke University, joins Ashanti for an honest, wide-ranging conversation about masks we wear in education, what students have lost (and gained) in the post-pandemic classroom, and why freedom with language can be a pathway to belonging.
In this episode, they cover:
Growing up working class in the South Bronx: a father who wasn’t verbal, but spoke through Sunday breakfast, gospel, and the Mets
“Stoicism as a mask”: how Black men learn to control emotion by pretending they don’t have any
Why aging (and experience) shifted Dr. Neal’s teaching: from gravitas and control → toward visible humanity and frailty
The hidden cost of the attacks on Black Studies: not always bans—sometimes student fear and “natural attrition”
Building the classroom as a vernacular space: language as freedom, not a barrier to participation
Imposter syndrome and “talking right”: how fear of sounding smart silences students before they ever start
“Students are like iPhone updates”: why educators have to recalibrate pedagogy every few years
Post-pandemic social gaps: why mentoring feels harder for students who didn’t practice relationships outside their homes
Save a Seat for Me: a love letter to Black fathers—and a new language for how Black men show up emotionally
(0:01) Welcome + Dr. Mark Anthony Neal introduces himself (South Bronx roots, working-class parents, path from high school teaching to the academy)
(1:45) Music as love language: Sunday breakfast, gospel, jazz/blues, and baseball as father-son connection
(4:03) Upcoming book: Save a Seat for Me and why Black fatherhood is inseparable from American fatherhood
(5:46) The “mask” framework: what we show vs. what we protect as educators
(9:05) “Stoicism as control”: why many Black men learn to hide interiority (especially anger)
(18:22) Teaching style shift: from “professorial gravitas” → toward conversational, accessible learning
(20:24) Language & belonging: making the classroom a vernacular space (and why code-switching isn’t the classroom goal)
(27:57) Representation reality: brilliant Black women teachers early on—but no Black male teacher until Dr. Neal became one
(32:16) “Higher expectations”: why lowering the bar is one of the most common ways schools fail Black students
(54:31) Closing invitation: share your mask anonymously at Million Mask Movement
Connect with Dr. Mark Anthony Neal
Book: Save a Seat for Me (Simon & Schuster) — publishing August 4, 2026Pre-order: Amazon, Simon & Schuster, and (hopefully) independent Black bookstoresInstagram: @BookerBBBrownTwitter: @NewBlackManResources & Ways to Engage
The Million Mask Movement – Create a mask anonymously: https://millionmask.orgEducator Portal – Bring mask-making and emotional data into your schoolGlobal Young Men’s Conference – Youth voice, belonging, and healing spacesEver Forward Club – Brotherhood, connection, and mentorshipConnect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaksTwitter/X: https://twitter.com/BranchSpeaksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/Connect with Ever Forward Club
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#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #BlackStudies #BlackMaleEducators #BlackFatherhood #Masculinity #EmotionalSafety #HigherEd #TeacherLife #StudentBelonging #Mentorship #CodeSwitching #AIInEducation #ShowYourWork
#54 | Heart Before Head: The Emotional Work Behind Academic Success – w/ Dr. Calvin J. Hadley – Assistant Provost, Howard University
2026/01/21
What if the breakthrough for Black boys and men in education isn’t more pressure… but more belonging?
In this episode of unMASKing with Male Educators, Dr. Calvin J. Hadley, Assistant Provost for Academic Engagement and Student Partnerships at Howard University, joins Ashanti for a real conversation about what’s happening to Black male enrollment, why emotional safety has to come before performance, and what it looks like to build a community where men don’t have to “hold it down” alone.
In this episode, they cover:
Why Black men often aren’t given the tools to understand, and move through their emotions (and how that shows up as a “mask”)
“Mirror-cleaning” work: what young Black men see when they look at themselves and how to blow limitations off the hinges
Emotional intelligence as a muscle many men never got to exercise (and why naming weakness matters)
The Men of the Mecca faculty/staff check-ins: “45 minutes of real check-ins”… and why grown men end up crying
Health avoidance, cultural fear, and why “put your oxygen mask on first” isn’t a cliché it’s leadership
“Emotion overrides intellect”: why we can know what to do—and still not do it
The crisis of Black male presence in higher ed (Howard’s context + HBCU averages)
Belonging, rites of passage, and the “Burning of Fear” ceremony, writing fears down and burning them together
“Look to your left and right…”: brotherhood as responsibility, not just connection
Timestamps
(0:01) Intro: who Dr. Hadley is + what this episode tackles (enrollment, emotional barriers, belonging, masks)
(0:01) Welcome + Dr. Hadley introduces himself (son of Harold & Ernestine, two-time Howard grad, father/husband, Assistant Provost role)
(10:33) Dr. Hadley: Men of the Mecca language—“taking off the mask” + not being taught emotional tools
(12:30) “Mirror cleaning” + the “N-word mask” and how limitations get internalized
(16:11) Emotional honesty: “I’m fairly emotional… I start crying on podcast” + “intellectual juggernaut / emotional first-grader”
(24:40) Men of the Mecca: student support → faculty/staff arm → a space to check in for real
(26:12) Annual physical moment: a room full of high-achieving Black men hanging their heads—health avoidance and cultural fear
(27:45) “Put your oxygen mask on first”: why educator wellness is student success work
(29:35) “Emotion overrides intellect”: you can’t teach, lead, or heal past what hasn’t been felt
(41:13) Rites of passage + “Burning of Fear”: write fears down, burn them, and build responsibility through brotherhood
(57:47) How to connect/partner + Dr. Hadley shares his email; closing invitation to make a mask anonymously
Connect with Dr. Calvin J. Hadley
Email (partnerships / school districts / collaboration): [email protected] University work: Men of the Mecca (student + faculty/staff community-building)Resources & Ways to Engage
The Million Mask Movement – Create a mask anonymously: https://millionmask.orgEducator Portal – Bring mask-making and emotional data into your schoolGlobal Young Men’s Conference – Youth voice, belonging, and healing spacesEver Forward Club – Brotherhood, connection, and mentorshipConnect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaksTwitter/X: https://twitter.com/BranchSpeaksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
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#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #BlackMaleEducators #BlackBoys #BlackMenHealing #EmotionalSafety #StudentSuccess #HigherEd #HBCU #Mentorship #Belonging #MensWellness #TraumaInformedEducation
#53 | You’re Worth the Pause: Building Brave Spaces for Black Male Educators – w/ Ayodele Harrison – Founder, BMEsTalk
2026/01/14
What if the leadership move you need most right now isn’t to push harder… but to pause?
In this episode of unMASKing with Male Educators, Ayodele Harrison, educator, facilitator, and founder of Black Male Educators Talk (BMEsTalk) joins host Ashanti Branch for a real, layered conversation about the masks Black men learn to wear in schools, in leadership, and in life. Ayodele shares how BMEsTalk is building a leadership ecosystem rooted in brotherhood, wellness, and nonjudgmental connection, because too many men are expected to “hold it down” while quietly running on empty.
In this episode, they cover:
The mask of the leader: extroversion on the outside, overthinking and introversion on the insideWhy Black men are conditioned to tie worth to usefulness, output, and performance“You’re worth the pause”: making the case for wellness when the ROI isn’t immediateHow to start men’s healing spaces without forcing vulnerability too fast (tables first, circle later)Why “safe” isn’t always the right word—and what a brave space invites insteadWhite supremacy as a system designed to disconnect—and what it does to relationships and identityThe power & privilege wheel: understanding marginalization and proximity to powerHow Black male privilege shows up (and why naming it can change how we show up for Black women)The “Dear Black Man” grounding practice that opens every BMEsTalk engagement
(0:00) Welcome + Ashanti’s self-doubt moment (even saying the guest’s name)
(0:35) Ayodele’s story: Seattle roots, Howard alum, engineering → education
(1:27) What BMEsTalk is building: brotherhood, wellness, leadership ecosystem
(15:16) Public vs. private schooling—and how certain environments can stunt growth
(17:03) Ayodele’s “back of the mask”: creative, faith, introversion + expectations to lead
(23:01) The performance trap: “being human is not enough” + the pressure to earn love
(25:07) The “Dear Black Man” letter + pausing to reset expectations in the room
(31:27) “You’re worth the pause”: why men struggle to believe wellness has ROI
(41:36) Designing for men’s nervous systems: why circles can be too much too soon
(44:15) When wellness gets weaponized: going “deep” without time to close the box
(51:56) Wielding privilege to protect, provide, and stand with Black women
(53:43) Why this needs a Part 2 (and what young men need from these conversations)
(54:20) Where to find Ayodele + BMEsTalk
(55:05) The Affirmation Crown: building something wearable that speaks life into you
(55:35) Share your mask anonymously + invite a friend into the reflection
Connect with Ayodele Harrison
Ayodele on LinkedIn (search: “Ayodele Harrison”)
BMEsTalk (Black Male Educators Talk): national convener building leadership, culture, and community for Black educators.
Affirmation Crown (hands-on reflection experience).
Resources & Ways to Engage
The Million Mask Movement – Create a mask anonymously: https://millionmask.orgEducator Portal – Bring mask-making and emotional data into your schoolGlobal Young Men’s Conference – Youth voice, belonging, and healing spacesEver Forward Club – Brotherhood, connection, and mentorshipConnect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
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Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
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#unmaskingwithmaleeducators #millionmaskmovement #takingoffthemask #totm #BlackMaleEducators #BMEsTalk #BlackMenHealing #BraveSpaces #EmotionalWellness #SchoolLeadership #SEL
#52 | Why Not Today? (Dr. Steve Perry’s Wake-Up Call for Educators)
2026/01/07
This episode didn’t go the way we planned, in the best way.
Instead of a traditional interview, Dr. Steve Perry steps in with the kind of mentoring questions that don’t let you hide behind “next month,” “next season,” or “when I’m ready.” It becomes a real-time reflection on fear, purpose, leadership, and what it costs, personally and professionally, when we hold back what we’re here to give.
Dr. Perry reminds us: our students are living right now. And we don’t get to “take a day off” from the responsibility of showing up with our full presence, because we don’t know what moment might change a child’s life.
In this episode, we cover:
Why “tomorrow” can be a socially acceptable form of fear
The difference between the people you care about and the people you’re trying to impress
How bullying and old wounds show up as hesitation, second-guessing, and “playing small” in adulthoodWhat it means to live the advice you give young people
(0:00) Dr. Perry’s opening reminder: “Get home safely.” Why educators can’t “take a period off.”
(0:32) Ashanti sets the tone: this is a different kind of episode—more reflection, more mentoring
(5:12) “Are you sure you’re going to be here in 2026?” Mortality, urgency, and getting present
(8:21) Who are you worried about… and why do they have so much power?
(15:44) Show intro: the loneliness of being a male educator & why this space exists
(16:22) Dr. Perry’s mission: education, power, and fighting for Black and Latin students
(22:24) The fear behind staying quiet—and what it’s costing
(31:22) “If a kid came to you with a phone full of songs…” Living your own advice
(42:06) Internal bullies, exaggerated fears, and the stories we let run our lives
(46:24) “Why not now? Why not today?” The challenge to stop hiding behind phases
(48:18) Dr. Perry: kids are living now—your presence might be the moment that changes everything
(50:51) “Release the first video. Tomorrow, the next.” Fear, discomfort, and jumping anyway
(53:08) Where to see Dr. Perry’s work: “Come to our schools.”
Reflection questions to sit with
Who do you care about—really?
Who are you worried about—and why?
What would change if you stopped letting unnamed people dictate your behavior?
Resources & Ways to Engage
The Million Mask Movement – Create a mask anonymously: https://millionmask.orgEducator Portal – Bring mask-making and emotional data into your schoolGlobal Young Men’s Conference – Youth voice, belonging, and healing spacesEver Forward Club – Brotherhood, connection, and mentorshipConnect with Ashanti Branch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/branchspeaks/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BranchSpeaks
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/BranchSpeaks
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashantibranch/
Website: https://www.branchspeaks.com/
Support the Podcast & Ever Forward Club
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#UnmaskingWithMaleEducators #MillionMaskMovement #MaleEducators #EmotionalSafety #SchoolCulture #Mentorship #StudentWellbeing #EducationLeadership #DrStevePerry #EverForwardClub
Podcast reviews
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jusowells 2026/02/17
Ashanti: a brilliant leader for a vital project!
It’s one thing—and an important thing—to be a brilliant and dedicated male educator. It’s another thing entirely to take up the mantle of helping men ...
BCGoldcoast 2026/01/28
Changing the world! Ashanti is world class
This man kicked off a journey for me 10 years ago that has led to thousands of transformations for boys and men within my non profit and professional ...
Modern Masculinity 2024/11/11
Essential Listening: Progressive, Practical, and Inspiring Conversations
The Unmasking podcast is one of my favorite education podcasts out there! The topics are consistently progressive, reflective, and incredibly practica...
JRoseland 2024/03/27
A breath of fresh air for anyone looking to explore what it means to be a man today.
Ashanti fosters a safe space for men to have real conversations about the things that matter: challenges, heartbreak, dreams, and everything in betwee...
PAtoAZtoALB 2024/01/18
Imagining what could be…
One of your lady listeners chiming in here! Thank you for bringing authentic conversations among men and giving them space to be true and real. Thank ...
Maxing_Out 2024/01/17
Fantastic and important
Great host, great guests (LOVED the one w/ Jason Kyle but hey I’m biased), AND, important conversations that propel us forward and make our world a be...
Judge Simon 2023/08/26
Engaging conversations with depth and range
Love putting on this show! Gives us a beautiful slice of humanity in such an engaging format!
CoachKIoane 2023/05/26
New Listener (From We Are Man Enough)
Was so impressed with Ashanti’s February appearance on We Are Man Enough had to make this show one of my must follows! Energetic, thoughtful and a tru...
777jasmine9311 2023/06/22
I love this concept
Looking at identifying what is in front and behind our masks- and being forced to name it and why it exists is such an eye opening exercise. I’m enjoy...
Alecp1009 2023/05/02
Warm, Insightful, Thought-provoking
The format of this “not an interview” show lends itself to surprising directions and insights!
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