Can your art help dismantle injustice, shift systems, or spark healing in places like homeless shelters, emergency rooms, or city planning meetings?
If you’re passionate about making a real difference through creativity, ART IS CHANGE (formerly known as Change the Story / Change the World) is your front-row seat to the real-world impact of art and social change. Hosted by author, musician, and researcher Bill Cleveland, each episode brings you deep into the lives and work of activist artists and cultural organizers who are doing more than dreaming—they’re transforming communities around the world.
You’ll discover:
• Proven strategies for thriving as an artist for change in complex, real-world settings
• How to build meaningful, lasting partnerships that support your mission and your art
• Lessons from global leaders creating cultural blueprints for justice, empathy, and resilience
▶️ Start with fan-favorite Episodes 86 and 87: Lessons From an Art and Change Pioneer—a double-dose of inspiration and practical insight.- https://change-the-story-chan.captivate.fm/episode/bighart-bigstory-redux/
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Sierra Leone Believes Poetry Is Essential Civic Infrastructure: Part 2
2026/09/30
Where do poetry and democracy intersect?
In part two of our conversation with Dayton poet laureate, educator, activist, culture keeper, and Kettering Foundation Democracy and the Arts resident artist Sierra Leone, we follow the threads of memory and imagination from a gallery of story quilts in Hamilton, Ohio, to the Legacy Sites of the Equal Justice Initiative in Montgomery, Alabama.
Along the way, Sierra reads American Libation III: Weaving an Amendment for Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, her response to Carolyn Crump's quilt Lovely One. She takes us inside The Belonging Project, where the stories of more than 100 Dayton residents are being harvested and turned into theater. And she shares a new poem born of a week with fellow Democracy Defenders led by Kimberlé Crenshaw in partnership with, a poem about how ideas persist and how thorns of memory grow from the womb of subjugation.
If you've ever wondered what poetry has to do with the work of self-government, or how a life of civic leadership actually begins, this one's for you.
In this episode we explore:
Poetry asks. Democracy asks too. A poem doesn't go looking for answers. It leaves something behind for others to grapple with, and each generation has to decide what democracy will be.The petals that fall to the ground. Every society chooses which stories rise to the surface. Poets pick up the parts that fall and put some wind under them.Belonging becomes theater. Verbatim stories from returning citizens, bankers, fathers, teachers, and teens become a stage for the hard conversations communities need to have.
Notable MentionsPeople
Sierra Leone: Dayton's first Poet Laureate, playwright, educator, and Kettering Foundation artist-in-residence.Willis "Bing" Davis: Dayton artist and educator, founder of EbonNia Gallery, honored in Sierra's American Libation: Homage to an Elder (part one).Ketanji Brown Jackson: Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court since 2022, the first Black woman to serve on the Court.Carolyn Crump: Houston-based quilt and multimedia artist whose quilt Ketanji Brown Jackson: Lovely One inspired Sierra's poem.Dr. Carolyn L. Mazloomi: Quilt artist, historian, curator, NEA National Heritage Fellow, and founder of the Women of Color Quilters Network.John Coltrane: Jazz saxophonist and composer. Sierra's poem closes on "a love supreme."Angela Siner: University of Toledo faculty member in Africana Studies and Sierra's mentor, who told her, "Choose your approach."Joni Doherty: Senior Program Officer for Democracy and the Arts at the Kettering Foundation. She invited Sierra to accompany her to Montgomery as a guest of the Foundation.Bryan Stevenson: Public-interest lawyer, author of Just Mercy, and founder of the Equal Justice Initiative.Kimberlé Crenshaw: Legal scholar who was instrumental in developing the concepts of critical race theory and "intersectionality" and co-founder and executive director of the African American Policy Forum.Augusto Boal: Brazilian theater artist and activist, creator of the Theatre of the Oppressed.Paul Laurence Dunbar: Dayton-born poet and novelist, one of the first Black American writers to gain national renown.Lucille Clifton: National Book Award–winning poet known for spare, luminous poems of family and resilience.Terrance Hayes: National Book Award–winning poet and MacArthur Fellow, author of Watch Your Language.Jericho Brown: Pulitzer Prize–winning poet (The Tradition) and co-editor of How We Do It.Nikki Giovanni: Poet, essayist, and leading voice of the Black Arts Movement (1943–2024).Sonia Sanchez: Poet, activist, Black Arts Movement pioneer, and Philadelphia's first poet laureate.Maya Angelou: Poet, memoirist, and civil rights activist, author of I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings.Robert Hayden: Poet and the first African American Consultant in Poetry to the Library of Congress.Gwendolyn Brooks: The first Black poet to win the Pulitzer Prize and a lifelong chronicler of Chicago's Bronzeville.
Organizations & Institutions
Center for the Study of Art and Community: Producer of Art is Change, building art-and-community partnerships since 1992.Charles F. Kettering Foundation: Democracy and the Arts: Foundation program exploring how the arts strengthen democratic life, and partner on the Art in Action series.Fitton Center for Creative Arts: Community arts center in Hamilton, Ohio, which organized the Soul of Black Folks: 250 Years of Creativity, Innovation and Leadership exhibition. The Fitton partnered with the Kettering Foundation to develop the Voices of Black Folks program.Women of Color Quilters Network: International network of Black quilt artists founded by Dr. Carolyn Mazloomi.The Human Race Theatre Company: Dayton professional theater and one of the partners on The Belonging Project.AmeriCorps Seniors: National service program for volunteers 55 and older, among the groups heard in The Belonging Project listening sessions.University of Dayton: Imagining Community Symposium: October 2026 symposium on civic hope and belonging, where The Belonging Project will be presented.Equal Justice Initiative: Montgomery-based human rights organization founded by Bryan Stevenson.African American Policy Forum: Think tank co-founded and led by Kimberlé Crenshaw. They host the annual Democracy Defenders Summit, which in 2026 involved a partnership with the Equal Justice Initiative.U.S. Sentencing Commission: Federal agency that sets sentencing guidelines. Justice Jackson served as its vice chair.University of Toledo: Where Sierra studied and met her mentor, Angela...
Sierra Leone Believes Poetry Is Essential Civic Infrastructure: Part 1
2026/09/23
Sierra Leone Believes Poetry Is Essential Civic Infrastructure
In this episode we meet Sierra Leone—a poet, educator, activist, and cultural organizer who reminds us that a poem is far more than words on a page. It can become a gathering place, a healing practice, and a way for a community to remember who it is.
In this conversation, we explore three central ideas:
Presence is a creative discipline. Art begins with showing up, listening deeply, and making space for what has not yet found words.Poetry can become civic infrastructure. A poem can live in a school, gallery, theatre, public square, or gathering of neighbors—not only on the printed page.Belonging is something we make together. Through performance, mentorship, and shared cultural memory, unfamiliar people and art forms can become part of the same nourishing gumbo.
Listen for Sierra’s journey from “healing producer” to “creative catalyst” to “culture keeper”—and for her conviction that the artist’s responsibility is not simply to speak, but to build spaces in which a community can hear and learn from itself.
Notable MentionsPeople
Sierra Leone — Dayton poet, producer, educator, activist, and interdisciplinary artist; the Kettering Foundation’s inaugural artist-in-residence and Dayton’s first living poet laureate.[JD1]Sonia Sanchez — Poet, educator, and Black Arts Movement figure whose advice about making time to write opens the conversation.Gwendolyn Brooks — Pulitzer Prize-winning Chicago poet, mentor, and civic literary leader.Amiri Baraka — Poet, playwright, activist, and central theorist of the Black Arts Movement.Haki R. Madhubuti — Poet, educator, Black Arts Movement architect, and founder of Third World Press.Robert Frost — Canonical American poet invoked while discussing narrow public ideas about poetry.Terrance Hayes — Poet cited by Sierra in explaining that a writer makes space for a poem instead of deciding it beforehand.Paul Laurence Dunbar — Dayton-born poet whose life and work remain central to the city’s cultural identity. He was posthumously recognized as Dayton’s first poet laureate.Willis “Bing” Davis — Dayton artist, educator, activist, and curator honored in Sierra’s poem.Kweku Larry Crowe — Dayton oral historian, visual artist, and community activist.Mama Nozipo Glenn — South African-born human-rights advocate and longtime Dayton community elder.Edwin C. Moses — Dayton-born Olympic hurdler and namesake of a prominent city boulevard.James H. McGee — Civil-rights attorney who became Dayton’s first Black mayor, and namesake of a prominent city boulevard.Faheem Curtis-Khidr — Historian and professor whose public scholarship addresses equity and Black history in Dayton.Martin Luther King Jr. — Civil-rights leader whose 1964 Dayton address inspired the Visual Voices project.Colin Kaepernick — Athlete and activist invoked in Sierra’s poem as a contemporary image of kneeling in protest.Joni Doherty — Charles F. Kettering Foundation senior program officer for Democracy and the Arts.
Organizations and venues
Center for the Study of Art and Community — Producer of ART IS CHANGE and a research and storytelling organization focused on arts-based community development.The Charles F. Kettering Foundation — The Charles F. Kettering Foundation, headquartered in Dayton, Ohio, is a nonpartisan, nonprofit, operating foundation with a mission to advance inclusive democracies worldwide by fostering citizen engagement, promotinggovernment accountability, and countering authoritarianism.Democracy and the Arts — The Kettering Foundation’s focus area for integrating thepower of the arts into democratic life locally, nationally, and globally.Home of Urban Creative Arts — Dayton organization co-founded by Sierra to advance education, performance, healing, and community change.Third World Press Foundation — Chicago-based African-centered publisher founded by Haki R. Madhubuti.Dayton Early College Academy High — The school known as DECA High, where Sierra leads student-designed arts and Black History Month work.University of Dayton Theatre, Dance and Performance Technology — University program that helps DECA students prepare original work for the stage.Roger Glass Center for the Arts — University of Dayton arts center where a DECA production was presented.Levitt Pavilion Dayton — An outdoor nonprofit music venue described as Dayton’s “downtown living room.” The Levitt seeks to build community and social interaction among people of all ages and backgrounds through offering free concerts.Benjamin and Marian Schuster Performing Arts Center — Performing-arts complex that housed Signature performances in its Mathile Theatre.The Loft Theatre — Downtown Dayton theatre and longtime home of Sierra’s Signature series.EbonNia Gallery and Black Palette Art Gallery — West Dayton galleries that hosted Visual Voices and its poetry programming.
Projects, events, and movements
Black Arts Movement — The artistic and political movement Sierra identifies as a foundation of her practice.Black Writers Retreat — Third World Press gathering devoted to craft, audience, and cultural responsibility.DECA High Black History Month Production — Annual student-led program combining Black history with original poetry, theatre, movement, and visual art.Signature Levitt Music and Arts Camp — Free intensive camp in which Dayton teenagers create and mount a public performance in one week.Visual...
195: Liz Lerman Part 2: What Can Witches Teach us About Art & Social Change
2026/09/16
An outside artist does not become effective by knowing everything about a place.Effectiveness begins with recognizing how much they do not know.That idea has followed us from our Building Blocks episode on outside artists, through Eric Gottesman’s journey from photographer to collaborator, and into the first part of our conversation with Liz Lerman. Liz calls us toward a more horizontal practice—one in which expertise matters, but does not automatically confer authority.
In Part Two, that principle becomes even more urgent. Through her work Wicked Bodies, Liz asks why some knowledge is honored, some erased, and some declared dangerous. She explores witches, cultural humility, aesthetic equity, and the hidden systems that decide whose stories and bodies belong.
In this episode, we will learn about:
Wicked Bodies — and what witches reveal about power, fear, and whose knowledge counts.Cultural humility and aesthetic equity — practices for entering communities without assuming authority.No singular stories — why meaningful work is built through shared inquiry, relationship, and consent.
Listen for what these ideas reveal about entering another community—not as its interpreter or savior, but as a curious, accountable partner.
194: Liz Lerman Part 1: The Critical, the Horizontal, & the Heretic's Path
2026/09/09
Can an artist who comes from outside a community become an effective partner in creating change?
That was the question we explored in an earlier episode of our Building Blocks of Effective Community Arts Practice series. And in our recent conversation with Eric Gottesman, we heard one compelling answer. His experiences in Ethiopia—and later with For Freedoms—taught him to stop acting as the sole author and begin making work with communities through questions, shared authority, and collective storytelling.
Our next guest, choreographer and community artist Liz Lerman, takes that conversation further. Through what she calls “the horizontal,” she shows us how artists can bring their knowledge into a community without placing it above everyone else’s.
In this episode, we explore:
The Horizontal — how leadership and expertise can be shared without disappearing.Critical Response — a feedback practice built around curiosity, consent, and respect.The Heretic’s Path — how artists can challenge established systems while staying in relationship with them.
So, as you listen, consider what becomes possible when expertise is joined by humility, curiosity, and a willingness to share power.
Notable MentionsDance Exchange: (Previously, Liz Lerman Dance Exchange) Fueled by generosity and curiosity, Dance Exchange expands who gets to dance, where dance happens, what dance is about, and why dance matters. Dance Exchange harnesses the power of creativity and inquiry through dance to connect communities, to deepen our understanding of ourselves and to foster a more embodied, resilient and just world.
Critical Response Process: Liz Lerman’s Critical Response Process is a method for giving and getting feedback on work in progress, designed to leave the maker eager and motivated to get back to work. is Creative
Pee-Posh (Maricopa): The Maricopa people were small bands living along the lower Gila and Colorado rivers. Each of these bands migrated eastward at different times. The Xalychidom (Maricopa of Lehi), left around 1825-1830. The last of these bands is said to have left the Colorado River in the late 1830’s. Eventually these bands came together and became collectively known as the Maricopa. As they migrated eastward, they came upon the Pima tribe and established a relationship. Both tribes provided protection against the Yuman and Apache tribes.
Tohono O’odham: The Tohono O’odham Nation is comparable in size to the state of Connecticut. Its four non-contiguous segments total more than 2.8 million acres at an elevation of 2,674 feet. Within its land the Nation has established an Industrial Park that is located near Tucson. Tenants of the Industrial Park include Caterpillar, the maker of heavy equipment; the Desert Diamond Casino, an enterprise of the Nation; and, an 23 acre foreign trade zone. of Wisconsin with a sociologist named Pearlman.
Freedom Schools: The Freedom Schools of the 1960s were part of a long line of efforts to liberate people from oppression using the tool of popular education, including secret schools in the 18th and 19th centuries for enslaved Africans; labor schools during the early 20th century; and the Citizenship Schools formed by Septima Clark and others in the 1950s.
Anna Halprin: was an American choreographer and dancer. She helped redefine dance in postwar America and pioneer the experimental art form known as postmodern dance and referred to herself as a breaker of the rules of modern dance.[4] In the 1950s, she established the San Francisco Dancers' Workshop to give artists like her a place to practice their art. Exploring the capabilities of her own body, she created a systematic way of moving using kinesthetic awareness.[5
Florence West, dance Milwaukee: Modern dance in Milwaukee begins with Florence West (1912-1994). West left Milwaukee at seventeen to dance in a Broadway road show, quit when she discovered ballet during a tour stop in Detroit, and found her way into the corps of the Chicago Civic Opera ballet. A Milwaukee opera producer asked her to come home to add choreography to a local production of Carmen. She soon became the go-to dance person for Milwaukee dance, theater, and opera companies.
Amira de la Garza: After spending a year in Mexico as a Fulbright Scholar, her experiences with the everyday talk and life around her led her to develop methods to integrate the arts, spirituality, and personal reflection into the study of culture. She works with many border-related projects, and has had students from around the world travel with her to many places to learn the methods she teaches.Professor de la Garza reports her research using creative writing, poetry, fiction, and has often shared her research through staged performances.
The California State Summer School for the Arts is a rigorous, preprofessional, month-long training program in the visual and performing arts, creative writing, animation and film for talented artists of high school age. CSSSA provides a supportive environment in which students hone acquired skills and explore new techniques and ideas for an intense and exciting learning experience.
Ethel Butler, one of Liz’s teachers: From 1933 through 1945, Ethel Butler was a member of the Martha Graham Dance Company. She went on to become a well-known teacher of the Graham Technique, counting among her students Paul Taylor and Dan Wagoner.
Sandy Spring Friends School: Sandy Spring Friends School is a progressive, coeducational, college preparatory Quaker school serving students from preschool through 12th grade. SSFS offers an optional 5- and 7- day boarding program in the Middle School and Upper School.
Art in Other Places, William Cleveland, Artists have established a remarkable record of innovation and success in institutional settings. Their work with hospital patients, prisoners, the elderly, the disabled, the mentally ill, and others has shown that the arts can have a significant positive impact on the lives of these people. This book recounts the histories of 22 institutional and community arts programs across the country pioneering this approach through activities such as creative writing and the performing and visual arts.Rabbi, Danny Zemel.
Wicked Bodies: Inspired by powerful and grotesque images of women’s bodies over multiple historic periods, Liz Lerman’s Wicked Bodies, is an intimate spectacle, brings together several consistent themes of my choreographic output:
– the invisible ways and means of feminine thinking and action which have been celebrated, erased, or criminalized;
– legal systems that attempt but often fail to bend our actions towards a fairer and more just world; and
– how we as a group of intergenerational artists bring our personal lives to the stage within characters that are imagining futures
Anand Giridharadas, The Persuaders is a stunning insider account of activists, politicians, educators, and everyday citizens who are on the ground working to change minds, bridge divisions, and fight for democracy.
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193: Eric Gottesman Asks: Whose Questions Get Asked -Whose Story is Told?
2026/09/02
What happens an artist realizes that they can never be the only one with questions?From that reckoning, artist Eric Gottesman spent the next twenty-five years rethinking what an artist with a camera, or a big idea is actually for. In this conversation with Bill Cleveland, Gottesman traces his path from documentary photographer to collaborative image-maker in Addis Ababa's AIDS-affected communities, and eventually to co-founding For Freedoms, the artist-led initiative that has turned billboards, town halls, and even a Super PAC into tools for civic discourse.
This is a conversation about authorship, collectivity, and the culture of inquiry at the heart of both artmaking and a thriving democracy.
In this episode we explore:
How asking the right question often matters more than delivering the right answer.Why Eric Gottesman says he has never made art alone. And why he thinks that's true for everyone.A “composite nation:” Drawing on Frederick Douglass, Gottesman is now developing projects that imagine an American identity built from multiplicity and complexity rather than a single official story.
Notable MentionsPeople
Eric Gottesman — Artist, educator, writer, and organizer whose collaborative work addresses nationalism, migration, structural violence, history, and civic life. He is a co-founder of For Freedoms.
Wendy Ewald — Photographer and one of Gottesman’s mentors. Her decades of co-authored photography projects challenge conventional divisions between photographer, subject, observer, and author.
Hank Willis Thomas — Conceptual artist and For Freedoms co-founder whose work examines identity, history, media, popular culture, and representation.
Claudia L. Peña — Executive director of For Freedoms, UCLA law lecturer, and practitioner of transformative and restorative justice. She appears with Gottesman and Thomas in the episode’s Skoll World Forum excerpt.
Baalu Girma — Influential Ethiopian journalist and novelist who disappeared after publishing Oromay, his critique of the Derg regime and its military campaign in Eritrea.
Emily Shur — Photographer who worked with Hank Willis Thomas, Eric Gottesman, and Wyatt Gallery to create contemporary photographic versions of Norman Rockwell’s Four Freedoms.
Wyatt Gallery — Photographer, For Freedoms co-founder, and producer of the contemporary Four Freedoms project.
Marc Bamuthi Joseph — Spoken-word artist, writer, librettist, and cultural strategist who developed the six questions at the heart of America, the Beautiful.
aja monet — Poet, recording artist, storyteller, and organizer appearing in the October 3, 2026, America(!) the Beautiful(?) performance, which is part of For Freedom’s America, the Beautiful project.
Derek Goldman — Director, playwright, educator, and co-founder of Georgetown University’s Laboratory for Global Performance and Politics. Gottesman and Cleveland cite his emphasis on care in cultural work.
Ariel Fristoe — Founder and artistic director of Out of Hand Theater, whose work brings theater, social justice, and civic engagement together.
Organizations, Institutions, and Places
For Freedoms — Artist-led civic organization founded in 2016. It uses public art, billboards, exhibitions, town halls, and artist commissions to encourage listening, inquiry, belonging, and civic participation.
Center for Documentary Studies at Duke University — The center at Duke University where Gottesman began his work in Ethiopia in partnership with Save the Children.
Save the Children — International humanitarian organization that sent Gottesman to photograph the effects of drought in Ethiopia shortly after his graduation from Duke.
The Charles F. Kettering Foundation — The Charles F. Kettering Foundation, headquartered in Dayton, Ohio, is a nonpartisan, nonprofit, operating foundation with a mission to advance inclusive democracies worldwide by fostering citizen engagement, promoting government accountability, and countering authoritarianism.
Democracy and the Arts — The Kettering Foundation’s focus area for integrating the power of the arts into democratic life locally, nationally, and globally.
Corcoran School of the Arts & Design — George Washington University school where Gottesman serves as the W.W. Corcoran Visiting Professor in Community Engagement and where For Freedoms has been in residence.
Future Currents — Organization that helps movement leaders prepare for uncertain conditions and collaboratively imagine more inclusive, just, and democratic futures.
U.S. Agency for International Development — Federal agency to which evidence of the Ethiopian drought was submitted to help prompt an international aid response. The episode conversation takes note of the agency’s dismantling and changed status.
Addis Ababa, Ethiopia — The city in which Gottesman began collaborating with people living with HIV and with children whose parents had died of AIDS.
Somali Region, Ethiopia — The drought-affected eastern region where Gottesman first confronted the power imbalances and ethical contradictions of humanitarian photography.
Sheshatshiu, Labrador, Canada — Innu community where Gottesman later collaborated with Wendy Ewald and young residents on a cross-generational photographic and community-curated project.
Projects, Artworks, and Events
For Freedoms at the 2024 Skoll World Forum — The episode includes an excerpt from this presentation by Eric Gottesman, Hank Willis Thomas, and Claudia Peña about art, interdependence, democracy, and social change. The forum took place in Oxford (not London as stated in the podcast).
Contemporary Four Freedoms — For Freedoms’ expansive reimagining of Rockwell’s four paintings. More than 100 participants created 82 images representing a broader range of American identities; its Freedom of Worship appeared on the cover of TIME.
Question Bridge: Black Males — Collaborative project...
192: Can Art Build Trust & Love Between Separated Communities?
2026/08/25
What can happen when art carries people across boundaries they rarely cross?
in 2019, a remarkable theater project brought together two very different communities: rural largely white Brussels, Illinois, and the predominantly Black St. Louis-area communities of Normandy and Pagedale, Missouri. Separated by the Mississippi River—and by race, geography, and very different assumptions about one another—they became collaborators in a new version of Shakespeare’s As You Like It.
Under the direction of artist/activist/educator Kathi Bentley students, teachers, residents, artists, and audiences traveled by bus and ferry between the two communities. Along the way, strangers became castmates, hosts, guests, and friends.
This reprise show is the first in a four-episode journey exploring what can happen when artists enter communities, cross into unfamiliar territory, and create the conditions for people to hear and change one another’s stories.
Threshold Questions and Juicy Quotes:Can collective creation change settled world views?
I mean, there are a couple of Mexican families in Brussels. They're no black folks. So, I would always kid that I was like, you know, that's a cute little house, and if I bought that, I'd be okay. Like, yeah. You know, for some of those students, this was prayerfully life changing in how they see folks and communities that are different than them and for our students from Normandy.Can we build lasting bridges between communities separated by race and culture?
You’ve got to have people love each other. You’ve got to have people like, "Can't wait to see you at rehearsal."... because then on stage, I got your back ... that experience it was so affirming to me about the power of just having people just talk to each other, you know, so they fell in love with each other. I fell in love with them. What kind of leadership grows community ownership and accountability?
I'm humbled by the whole experience. You know, because often people don't know or really care who the director is, and that's okay. That's my goal. So, it's nice to just be on the ferry and nobody know what my roll was in it and hear people like, this is so cool. Oh my gosh, I can't believe we're doing this.Notable MentionsBlackberry Productions
St. Louis Shakespeare Festival:
Shakespeare, in the Streets
Art and Upheaval,
Wedding Community Play.
CHIPS Health: Community Health-In-Partnership Services (d/b/a CHIPS Health and Wellness Center) is the place where uninsured and underserved people in the St. Louis metropolitan area can receive free primary and preventive health care services.
Bread and Roses Missouri An organization with the mission of organizing arts and humanities projects about workers and their families.
191: Tricia Rose Burt - This Is No Time For Artists to Be Timid!
2026/08/19
Tricia Rose Burt spent nearly fifteen years doing everything right — director of corporate communications, a career built inside Fidelity Investments and Harvard Business School, the whole stable, predictable life she was raised to want. Then a career counselor told her she needed freedom and art, and within a year she'd quit the job, sold the car, ended the marriage, and moved to an artist's studio in Ireland for what was supposed to be six months. She stayed four. Now she's a Moth storyteller, a TEDx speaker, and the host of No Time to Be Timid — a podcast built entirely around one idea: the riskiest thing you can do is play it safe.
In this conversation, Tricia and Bill dig into what it actually costs to become someone else on purpose — and why fear, boredom, and failure aren't obstacles to the creative life, they're the price of admission.
Three reasons to listen:
The week she blew up her old life. Job, car, marriage — gone in seven days, on the strength of one priest's line: "Everyone will tell you the cost of going. No one will tell you the cost of staying."Even the pros get scared. Why a 22-time Grammy winner joining the Eagles and a Nashville hitmaker turned wheelchair-tech founder both told Tricia, on record, that fear never actually goes away — you just get better at using it.A 10-point manifesto for getting unstuck. From "practicality is overrated" to "constraints are opportunities" — the field-tested rules Tricia now hands to everyone from artists to executives.
Notable MentionsNo Time to Be Timid — Tricia Rose Burt
People
Tricia Rose Burt — Speaker, storyteller, and podcast host who left a corporate career at Fidelity Investments and Harvard Business School to become an artist; host of No Time to Be Timid and a longtime storyteller and instructor for The Moth.
Vince Gill — Grammy-winning country musician who joined the Eagles in 2017 following Glenn Frey's death; discussed on No Time to Be Timid the fear he still feels performing, including tackling the Beach Boys' notoriously difficult "Surf's Up."
Barry Dean — Nashville hit songwriter ("Heartache Medication," "Pontoon") who co-founded the smart wheelchair technology company LUCI with his brother Jered after his daughter Katherine was born with cerebral palsy.
Devin Finigan — Self-taught chef-owner of Aragosta at Goose Cove in Deer Isle, Maine, trained through stints at Per Se, Blue Hill at Stone Barns, and The French Laundry; her restaurant was named among Food & Wine's top U.S. dining destinations in 2024 and 2025.
Laura Wilson — American documentary photographer inducted into the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame in 2019, known for her decade-plus access to photograph Montana's Hutterite communities; mother of actors Owen, Luke, and Andrew Wilson.
Nell Painter — Princeton historian who, in her mid-60s, left academia to earn a BFA and MFA in painting, chronicled in her memoir Old in Art School; she is a past guest on Tricia's own podcast.
The War and Treaty (Michael & Tanya Trotter) — Husband-and-wife Americana duo; Michael, an Army veteran who served in Iraq, found his voice singing at the funerals of fellow soldiers before he and Tanya began performing together.
Amy Grant — Six-time Grammy-winning singer-songwriter and friend of Tricia's; discussed anticipating the excitement rather than the anxiety of returning to the stage after a decade away from releasing new music.
Organizations & Institutions
The Moth — Global nonprofit dedicated to live, unscripted personal storytelling; Tricia is a longtime storyteller and instructor for the organization.
Fidelity Investments — Boston-based financial services firm where Tricia worked in corporate communications before her career pivot into the arts.
Harvard Business School — Part of Tricia's original corporate career track before she left the business world for art school in Ireland.
Aragosta at Goose Cove — Devin Finigan's destination restaurant and inn on Deer Isle, Maine, ranked among Food & Wine's top U.S. culinary destinations.
LUCI Mobility — Smart technology company founded by songwriter Barry Dean and his brother Jered, building collision- and tip-prevention sensors for power wheelchairs.
Books, Talks & Media
No Time to Be Timid — Tricia's award-winning podcast (a Signal Award winner in Arts & Culture) featuring artists, entrepreneurs, and everyday people who made a bold creative leap.
The No Time to Be Timid Manifesto — Tricia's 10-point guide to living more creatively, including principles like "the riskiest thing you can do is play it safe" and "constraints are opportunities."
Old in Art School: A Memoir of Starting Over — Nell Painter's memoir of leaving a celebrated academic career to earn a BFA and MFA in her 60s; a National Book Critics Circle Award finalist.
"How I Redeemed 35 Years of Regret" — Tricia's TEDxPortsmouth talk built around the idea that the biggest risk in life is playing it safe.
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*******Art Is CHANGE is a podcast that chronicles the power of art and community transformation, providing a platform for activist artists to share their experiences and gain the skills and strategies they need to thrive as agents of social change.
Through compelling conversations with artist activists, artivists, and cultural organizers, the podcast explores how art and activism intersect to fuel cultural transformation and drive meaningful change. Guests discuss the challenges and triumphs of community arts, socially engaged art, and creative placemaking, offering insights into artist mentorship, building credibility, and communicating impact.
Episodes delve into the realities of artist isolation, burnout, and funding for artists, while celebrating the role of artists in residence and creative leadership in shaping a more just and inclusive world. Whether you’re an emerging or established artist for social justice, this podcast offers inspiration, practical advice, and a sense of solidarity in the journey toward art and social change.
190: Who Tells America's Story?
2026/08/12
What happens when a government decides that one of the greatest threats to its future isn't an armed force — but a cultural institution?On July 4th, America's 250th birthday, the White House Domestic Policy Council released a 162-page report accusing the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History of "ideological capture."
Twenty days later, the President signed a second executive order directing federal agencies to force the museum to change how it tells the country's story. Host Bill Cleveland lays out the specifics: the named exhibits, the named staff, the quiet stall in confirming new members of the Smithsonian's governing board — and asks what it means when a nation stops trusting itself to hold a complicated history.
Drawing on decades of work with artists in Serbia, Cambodia, Northern Ireland, and Watts, California, and revisiting labor leader Ken Grossinger's conversation about Bryan Stevenson's Legacy Sites in Montgomery Alabama, Cleveland makes the case that culture is never a side issue. Authoritarian movements go after artists first, not for their political power, but because artists shape imagination itself. This episode is about why museums, memorials, and community art aren't warehouses of old objects, but living civic spaces where democracy is practiced, one story at a time.
In this episode we explore:
How an government report, an executive order, and a quiet stall in board appointments aren't three separate stories, they're one strategy for defining and controlling America's history moving through official channels.Why authoritarian movements attack culture first because stories shape what people believe is possible, before governments can control people, they go for the imagination.Democracy isn't only a system to defend; it's a creative practice — rehearsed in murals, story circles, museums, and neighborhood theater as much as in legislatures.
If this show sparks your curiosity we invite you to visit this ART IS CHANGE Collection: Art In Action: Stories of Artists Making a Difference in These Tumultuous Times
Notable Mentions
People
• Lonnie G. Bunch III — 14th Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution; responded to the White House report by defending the museum's commitment to "scholarship, accuracy" and telling the fullness of America's story.
• Bryan Stevenson — Founder and Executive Director of the Equal Justice Initiative; led the creation of the Legacy Museum, National Memorial for Peace and Justice, Freedom Monument Sculpture Park, and Montgomery Square in Montgomery, Alabama.
• Ken Grossinger — Labor and social-justice strategist, author of Art Works: How Organizers and Artists Are Creating a Better World Together, and guest on a prior Art Is Change episode discussing the EJI Legacy Sites.
• Alice Lovelace — Atlanta-based poet, performer, and cultural organizer; a recurring voice on the podcast, quoted here on how every generation believes it's living through unprecedented times.
Organizations & Institutions
• The Charles F. Kettering Foundation — The Charles F. Kettering Foundation, headquartered in Dayton, Ohio, is a nonpartisan, nonprofit, operating foundation with a mission to advance inclusive democracies worldwide by fostering citizen engagement, promoting government accountability, and countering authoritarianism.
• Democracy and the Arts — The Kettering Foundation’s focus area for integrating the power of the arts into democratic life locally, nationally, and globally.
• Center for the Study of Art and Community — The producing organization behind Art Is Change, founded by Bill Cleveland in 1991 to build partnerships between artists and communities.
• Smithsonian Institution / National Museum of American History — The federal museum complex, and specifically the history museum, at the center of the report and executive orders discussed in this episode.
• Smithsonian Board of Regents — The 17-member body that governs the Smithsonian, including the Vice President and the Chief Justice; currently has unfilled seats amid an unusually slow confirmation process.
• White House Domestic Policy Council — The office that produced the "Saving America's Story" report and is directed, under the July 24 order, to help enforce its recommendations.
• Charles F. Kettering Foundation — Nonpartisan foundation whose Democracy and the Arts program partnered with Art Is Change to produce this Art in Action series.
• Equal Justice Initiative — Montgomery, Alabama-based human rights organization founded by Bryan Stevenson; operates the Legacy Sites referenced in Part Two.
Publications, Exhibits & Curricula
• "Saving America's Story: How Ideological Capture at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History Erases Our Heritage" — The 162-page White House Domestic Policy Council report released July 4, 2026, that touched off the events discussed in this episode.
• Executive Order 14253, "Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History" — Signed March 27, 2025; ordered the review of the Smithsonian that produced the July 2026 report.
• "Restoring Trust in the Smithsonian Institution" — The second executive order, signed July 24, 2026, directing federal agencies to act on the report's findings.
• "Many Voices, One Nation" — Permanent NMAH exhibition exploring how many communities have shaped the nation; named in the White House report as an example of the museum's approach.
• "Upending 1620: Where Do We Begin?" — NMAH exhibit examining early encounters between Wampanoag peoples and English colonists, also cited in the report.
• "American Democracy: A Great Leap of Faith" — NMAH exhibition on the evolving American experiment in self-government.
• "Becoming US" — NMAH's national education curriculum teaching U.S. history through the lens of migration; criticized in the White House report.
• "Block Bridge Build: Stories of Activist Artists and Cultural Organizers Making a Difference in These Tumultuous Times" — A collection of ART IS CHANGE episodes that explore how arts activism and cultural organizing function as pro-democracy infrastructure.
Historical Events & Movements
• The Milošević era in Serbia (1989–2000) — The period of authoritarian rule in Serbia during which Cleveland worked with Belgrade theater artists engaged in public, improvisational protest.
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189: Why Are Dopamine, Synapsis', & the Prefrontal Cortex Critical to Art & Social Change?
2026/08/05
A while back we shared the story of how Breaking Ice, a theater company working out of an arts based social service agency called Pillsbury House and Theater in Minneapolis, joined up with a large health care system in St. Louis to provide a powerful boost to their diversity, equity and inclusion program.
That led to a and exploration of what neuroscience can contribute to understanding and dealing with the human struggle with difference. Dopamine, synapses, and the prefrontal cortex might sound like a science fair project gone wild, but trust me, they're crucial when we dive into the colorful world of art and social change! In this episode, we’re unpacking how the brain's wiring and our creative expressions are intertwined, and how that connection can help us tackle the ever-pressing issues of diversity and social justice. We’ll explore the magic of storytelling and empathy, revealing how art can literally change the way our brains perceive and react to the world around us. Buckle up, because we’re taking a wild ride through neuroscience, creativity, and the transformative power of community art—a journey that’s not just enlightening but also a whole lot of fun. So grab your thinking caps and get ready to dance with some brainy ideas!
In this episode we explore:
The intersection of neuroscience and creativity can help us understand the human struggle with difference.Empathy is not just a buzzword; it’s a fundamental part of our humanity that artists can harness to create impactful work that can change the way people think about each other.Art is not just about aesthetics; it’s a powerful tool for social change that can rewire how we think about ourselves and each other, ultimately driving cooperation.
Spending time with the Breaking Ice theater based diversity, equity, and inclusion program gave rise to a question: How might new insights about how the brain works might help us better understand the how and why of our continuing struggle with difference? Here is what ensued.
LISTEN TO Breaking Ice Chapter 1
LISTEN TO Breaking Ice Chapter 2
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Notable MentionsBreaking Ice is the award-winning program of Pillsbury House Theatre that for over 20 years has been “breaking the ice” for courageous and productive dialogue around issues of diversity, equity and inclusion in the workplace. A diverse company of professional actors portrays real-life situations that are customized to meet the goals, needs and culture of each unique organization we serve.
Pillsbury House and Theater is a groundbreaking “new model for human service work that recognizes the power of the arts and culture to stimulate community participation, investment and ownership.”
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi: was a Hungarian-American psychologist. He recognized and named the psychological concept of "flow", a highly focused mental state conducive to productivity.[1][2] He was the Distinguished Professor of Psychology and Management at Claremont Graduate University. He was also the former head of the department of psychology at the University of Chicago and of the department of sociology and anthropology at Lake Forest College.[3]
SourcesQuestion 2: How does our environment influence what we think and believe?
1.Lobel, T. (2014) Sensations: The New Science of Physical Intelligence, Simon & Schuster.
2 Eagleman, David. The Brain: The Story of You. Pg., 105, Vintage Books, 2017
Question 4: Why are stories important?
3.Hamlin, JK, Wynn, K & Bloom, P (2007) “Social evaluation by preverbal infants.” Nature, 450(7169), 557-59.
Question 5: What is empathy and what does it have to do with artmaking?
4 Eagleman, David. The Brain: The Story of You. Pg., 143, Vintage Books, 2017
5 Ibid.
Question 11: If human cooperation and connection are so important, why do we struggle so with difference?
6. How do children develop a sense of self? - The Conversation. http://theconversation.com/how-do-children- develop-a-sense-of-self-5611
7. Toddler | Preschool & Daycare | The Montessori Centre St Lucia. http://www.themontessoricentre.com/toddlers/
8. Eagleman, David. The Brain: The Story of You. Pg., 143, Vintage Books, 2017
Question 13: Why is play so important to human development?
9 Asma, Steven The History of Imagination, pg., 84, University of Chicago Press, Chicago, 2017
10 Asma, Stephen, The Evolution of Imagination, University of Chicago Press, Chicago, 2017
Question 15: How Can human creativity help us out of this mess?
11 Boyd, Brian, On the Origin of Stories, Harvard University Press, Boston, 2010
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Change the Story / Change the World is a podcast that chronicles the power of art and community transformation, providing a platform for activist artists to share their experiences and gain the skills and strategies they need to thrive as agents of social change.
Through compelling conversations with artist activists, artivists, and cultural organizers, the podcast explores how art and activism intersect to fuel cultural transformation and drive meaningful change. Guests discuss the challenges and triumphs of community arts, socially engaged art, and creative placemaking, offering insights into artist mentorship, building credibility, and communicating impact.
Episodes delve into the realities of artist isolation, burnout, and funding for artists, while celebrating the role of artists in residence and creative leadership in shaping a more just and inclusive world. Whether you’re an emerging or established artist for social justice, this podcast offers inspiration, practical advice, and a sense of solidarity in the journey toward art and social change.
188: Can Outside Activist Artists Make a Difference in Your Community?
2026/07/29
Can an artist from outside a community become an effective force for change—or does arriving with good intentions risk repeating the very patterns the work is meant to challenge?
Bill Cleveland joins Alice Lovelace and Barbara Schaffer Bacon to examine one of community arts practice’s most persistent questions: when outsiders enter a community, what allows their work to take root, and what turns a promising intervention into a brief visit—or even a source of harm? Through stories from Serbia, Atlanta, Ohio, and rural Georgia, the conversation moves beyond simple answers and into the practical ethics of entering another community’s living room.
Listen for three ideas that can change how artists, hosts, and funders approach community-based work:
Why local knowledge and leadership must shape the work from the beginning—not merely approve it afterward.How an outside artist can sometimes become a catalyst, witness, or lightning rod when local people cannot safely raise a difficult issue themselves.Why the deepest measure of success is not the artwork left behind, but the relationships, skills, confidence, and community power that remain after the artist leaves.
Join us for a candid exploration of what it means to enter with humility, listen for the truth of a place, share leadership, and leave a community more able to tell—and act upon—its own story.
Notable MentionsPeople
Alice Lovelace: Poet, educator, performer, and Executive Director of ArtsXchange whose decades of community-based practice inform the episode’s most vivid stories about the opportunities and risks faced by visiting artists.Barbara Schaffer Bacon: Cultural policy leader and co-founder of Animating Democracy, known for advancing ethical, reciprocal, and civically engaged arts practice.Bill Cleveland: Host of ART IS CHANGE and longtime community arts practitioner whose book Art and Upheaval examined artists working amid war, oppression, displacement, and social crisis.Dijana Milošević: Serbian theater director, activist, and co-founder of DAH Theatre, cited for describing artists resisting tyranny as citizens acting inside their own community.Slobodan Milošević: Serbian and Yugoslav political leader whose authoritarian rule and the wars surrounding Yugoslavia’s breakup form the historical setting for the discussion of DAH Theatre.John O’Neal: Civil rights activist, playwright, co-founder of the Free Southern Theater, and a major developer of story-circle practice in community cultural work.Liz Lerman: Choreographer, educator, and civic arts pioneer whose residencies model inquiry, participation, and shared creative leadership.Michael Rohd: Theater-maker, facilitator, and civic-practice leader whose community residencies use creative process to support public dialogue and local problem-solving.
Organizations & Initiatives
Center for the Study of Art & Community: Producer of ART IS CHANGE and a resource for arts-based community development and cultural organizing.ArtsXchange: Atlanta-area interdisciplinary arts center connecting artistic practice, community development, environmental work, and social justice.DAH Theatre Research Center: Belgrade-based theater laboratory founded during the breakup of Yugoslavia, using performance as a form of resistance, memory, and civic engagement.Urban Bush Women: Black women-led dance company and social-change organization that combines performance, artist development, education, and deep community engagement.Animating Democracy: National initiative documenting and strengthening the role of arts and culture in civic dialogue, community change, and democracy.Appalshop: Appalachian media, arts, and education organization dedicated to telling stories from within the region and challenging stereotypes through locally rooted cultural work.CETA Arts Legacy Project: Project preserving the history of federally supported artist employment under the Comprehensive Employment and Training Act, referenced through artists who worked in communities with unusually open-ended assignments.
Events & Programs
Hurricane Katrina: The devastating 2005 Gulf Coast hurricane whose aftermath prompted many artists to seek ways to enter affected communities and help—raising difficult questions about urgency, expertise, and the impulse to parachute in.Story Circle: A structured method for sharing personal experience, discovering common ground, and grounding community work in local voices; used in the Lima, Ohio residencies discussed in the episode. (See also, John O'Neal above)Building Blocks of Effective Community Arts Practice: ART IS CHANGE conversation series examining the skills, ethics, and strategies required for effective arts-based community work.Alice Lovelace — Episode 23: Earlier podcast conversation in which Lovelace recounts in greater depth the controversy, community response, and lasting impact of her work as an outside artist in Georgia.
Publications & Learning Resources
Art and Upheaval: Artists on the World’s Frontlines: Bill Cleveland’s examination of artists responding to war, oppression, cultural dislocation, and community crisis in places including Serbia and Cambodia.Literature Is History: The course Alice Lovelace created for young people in rural Georgia, grounding literature in lived experience and restoring the history, skills, and cultural gifts of enslaved Africans to the community narrative.Story Circle Facilitation: A Quick Guide: Practical guide to the community story-circle method developed through Roadside Theater and Junebug Productions.
Places & Institutions
Atlanta, Georgia: Home ground for Alice Lovelace’s community arts practice and a central reference point for considering the difference between working inside one’s own community and entering another.Evans, Georgia: Community associated with one of Lovelace’s experiences of becoming a politically targeted outside artist whose resistance helped provoke local solidarity and institutional change.Lima, Ohio: Site of artist residencies where story-circle skills remained available to the community and were reactivated years later during a local crisis.Serbia: Major case study in Cleveland’s work on artists responding from within communities experiencing authoritarianism and war.Cambodia: Referenced as another setting where local artists’ long-term...
187: Ken Grossinger Believes Art is Essential to Effective Organizing
2026/07/22
Can the right song, painting, or museum exhibit spark real political change? What if culture is the missing strategy in today’s social movements?If you’ve ever felt like your efforts for justice aren’t hitting deep enough, it might be because the culture hasn’t caught up with your message. In this episode, labor organizer and social change strategist Ken Grossinger shares how his journey from labor organizing to cultural advocacy revealed a truth many overlook: policy changes fade, but stories—and the art that tells them—have staying power. In this episode:
Discover how blending power analysis with artistic expression can amplify grassroots campaigns and drive long-term social change.Hear powerful case studies—from a revolutionary museum exhibit in Louisville to a musical uprising in Alaska—that reveal how art can expose injustice and build movements.Learn from real-world collaborations between artists and organizers that shift narratives, challenge power, and activate communities in ways no policy paper ever could.
Tune in now to hear how Ken Grossinger’s book ART WORKS and his work in communities across the U.S. show us why art isn’t just a reflection of justice—it’s how we get there.
Notable MentionsPeople
Ken Grossinger — Longtime movement strategist and author of Art Works: How Organizers and Artists Are Creating a Better World Together, which explores the strategic partnership between artists and organizers across decades of social-justice campaigns.
Richard Cloward — Columbia University sociologist and organizer whose power-analysis framework shaped generations of strategists; co-founder of the National Welfare Rights Organization and a chief architect of the 1993 National Voter Registration Act ("Motor Voter" law).
Bernice Johnson Reagon — Civil rights song leader who co-founded the Freedom Singers with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and later founded the a cappella ensemble Sweet Honey in the Rock.
Si Kahn — Veteran folk musician, author, and organizer who has spent decades writing songs in direct collaboration with the communities he serves, including the fishermen and Alaska Native communities fighting the Pebble Mine.
Harry Belafonte — Singer and actor who became one of the civil rights movement's most trusted strategists and financiers, sitting at the strategy tables of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference alongside Martin Luther King Jr.
Bryan Stevenson — Founder and executive director of the Equal Justice Initiative and author of Just Mercy; created the Legacy Museum and the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, Alabama.
Amy Sherald — Painter whose 2020 Vanity Fair portrait of Breonna Taylor became the centerpiece of the Speed Art Museum's "Promise, Witness, Remembrance" exhibition.
Stephen Reily — Director of the Speed Art Museum in Louisville at the time of Breonna Taylor's killing, who reorganized the museum's programming around community-led advisory boards.
Norman Lear — Legendary TV producer and creator of All in the Family, who used Archie Bunker's bigotry to bring racism and homophobia into American living rooms as everyday conversation.
Frances Stonor Saunders — British historian and author of The Cultural Cold War, which documents the CIA's covert promotion of Abstract Expressionist artists like Jackson Pollock as ideological counters to Soviet Social Realism.
Jane Fonda, Karen Nussbaum & Ellen Cassedy — Actress-activist Jane Fonda partnered with 9to5 co-founders Karen Nussbaum and Ellen Cassedy to turn the working women's organizing movement into the hit 1980 comedy 9 to 5.
Organizations & Institutions
Center for the Study of Art and Community — Producer of Art is Change and host organization for the Art in Action series exploring arts-based civic engagement.
Charles F. Kettering Foundation — Nonprofit research foundation focused on deliberative democracy; partner for the Art in Action series through its Democracy and the Arts program.
Equal Justice Initiative — Montgomery, Alabama human-rights organization founded by Bryan Stevenson; operates the Legacy Museum and the National Memorial for Peace and Justice.
Speed Art Museum — Louisville, Kentucky museum whose 2021 exhibition "Promise, Witness, Remembrance," built around Amy Sherald's portrait, became a national model for community-driven museum programming.
Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) — New York institution whose mid-century ties to CIA-backed cultural promotion of Abstract Expressionism are documented in Frances Stonor Saunders's The Cultural Cold War.
American Museum of Natural History & Smithsonian — Both institutions faced public pressure after climate scientists and advocacy groups called on them to sever ties with board member and fossil-fuel financier David Koch.
Highlander Research and Education Center — Tennessee-based center for labor and civil-rights organizing, where staff such as Zilphia Horton adapted "We Shall Overcome" and other freedom songs used across the movement.
Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) — Student-led civil rights organization that carried freedom songs into direct-action campaigns across the South and gave rise to groups like the Freedom Singers.
International Ladies' Garment Workers' Union (ILGWU) — Union whose cultural department trained its own members to write, sing, and perform, producing the Broadway hit Pins and Needles.
9to5, National Association of Working Women — Organization founded by Karen Nussbaum and Ellen Cassedy to fight for office workers' rights, later dramatized in the film 9 to 5.
Musicians United to Protect Bristol Bay — Network of musicians, co-organized by Si Kahn, that used songwriting and touring to build public opposition to Alaska's proposed Pebble Mine.
Books, Films & Recordings
Art Works: How Organizers and Artists Are Creating a Better World Together — Ken Grossinger's book on the strategic collaborations between artists and organizers, discussed throughout this episode.
Just Mercy — Bryan Stevenson's memoir recounting...
186: Effective Community Arts Practice - Should Activist Artists Prioritize Safety or Bravery
2026/07/15
Today we continue our Building Blocks of Effective Community Arts Practice series with two longtime fellow travelers: activist poet and cultural organizer Alice Lovelace, and educator, cultural policy leader, and Animating Democracy co-founder Barbara Shaffer Bacon.
Together we wrestle with a question many artists are asking right now: Should we prioritize safety—or bravery?
Drawing on decades of experience—from the culture wars of the 1980s to today’s debates over censorship, public funding, and democracy—they explore how artists can respond with creativity rather than fear.
Three reasons to listen• Creative courage takes many forms. Bravery isn’t only public protest. It can mean telling difficult truths, creating work without waiting for permission,
• Healthy cultural ecosystems make courage possible. Artists, organizations, funders, and communities can build networks of mutual support that allow creative work to flourish even during periods of political and economic uncertainty.
• Artists possess tools society needs right now. From improvisation and storytelling to visioning and collective imagination, the very skills artists practice every day may be among our most important resources for helping communities navigate uncertainty and build a more hopeful future.
Notable Mentions
People
Alice Lovelace: Poet, educator, Executive Director of ArtsXchange, and longtime leader in community-based arts, cultural organizing, and social justice.Barbara Shaffer Bacon: Cultural policy leader, educator, and founding co-director of Animating Democracy, widely recognized for advancing arts-based civic engagement and cultural policy.Lenny Sloan: Beloved community arts advocate, cultural organizer, and longtime colleague remembered as one of the inspirations behind this conversation series.Maynard Jackson: Atlanta's first African American mayor, remembered for expanding civic participation and public investment in the arts.Shirley Franklin: Former mayor of Atlanta whose administration continued significant investment in the city's cultural infrastructure.Robert Peters: Mashpee Wampanoag artist, writer, and cultural leader whose work integrates Indigenous traditions, storytelling, ceremony, and community healing.Roberta Uno: Founder of New WORLD Theater and one of America's leading advocates for culturally specific and community-based theater.
Organizations & Initiatives
Center for the Study of Art & Community: Producer of ART IS CHANGE and advancing arts-based community development and cultural organizing.ArtsXchange: Atlanta-based interdisciplinary arts organization dedicated to community cultural development, creative leadership, and social justice.Animating Democracy: National initiative advancing civic engagement, community development, and social change through the arts.New WORLD Theater: Groundbreaking multicultural theater that elevated artists and communities of color while reshaping American theater.Public Art Network: National professional network supporting public artists, public art programs, and civic arts leadership.Arts on Prescription: An emerging healthcare movement integrating arts participation into medical care through clinician referrals and social prescribing.
Places
Atlanta, Georgia: Principal case study illustrating strengths and vulnerabilities of long-term community arts ecosystems.New Bedford, Massachusetts: Example of a city where artists, government, and community organizations have built a collaborative cultural ecosystem.Alameda, California: Home base of host Bill Cleveland and the Center for the Study of Art & Community.Minneapolis, Minnesota: Referenced as an example of a deeply interconnected community arts ecosystem.
Key Concepts & Practices
Arts Ecosystems: The interconnected relationships among artists, organizations, funders, institutions, and communities that collectively sustain creative life.Cross-sector Collaboration: Partnerships linking artists with public health, education, environmental justice, youth development, and community planning.Creative Commons (Community Sense): Bill Cleveland's metaphor describing artistic communities where collaboration, mentoring, reciprocity, and mutual aid become cultural norms.Arts on Prescription: A growing international practice in which healthcare professionals prescribe arts participation as part of treatment for physical, mental, and social well-being.
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Art Is CHANGE is a podcast that chronicles the power of art and community transformation, providing a platform for activist artists to share their experiences and gain the skills and strategies they need to thrive as agents of social change.
Through compelling conversations with artist activists, artivists, and cultural organizers, the podcast explores how art and activism intersect to fuel cultural transformation and drive meaningful change. Guests discuss the challenges and triumphs of community arts, socially engaged art, and creative placemaking, offering insights into artist mentorship, building credibility, and communicating impact.
Episodes delve into the realities of artist isolation, burnout, and funding for artists, while celebrating the role of artists in residence and creative leadership in shaping a more just and inclusive world. Whether you’re an emerging or established artist for social justice, this podcast offers inspiration, practical advice, and a sense of solidarity in the journey toward art and social change.
185: What Makes a Healthy Art and Social Change Ecosystem?
2026/07/08
What makes the difference between a community where artists simply survive… and one where creativity becomes part of the living infrastructure of democracy?Today we’re continuing our series exploring the building blocks of effective community arts practice. Joining me once again are activist poet, performer, educator, and creative change agent Alice Lovelace, along with educator, cultural strategist, and longtime arts and democracy leader Barbara Shaffer Bacon.
Together we tackle a deceptively simple question: What are the essential ingredients of a healthy and thriving art and social change ecosystem?
We Explore:
Why healthy arts ecosystems don’t happen by accident.The false assumption that cultural health is defined by economic development.Why the strongest cultural ecosystems reach far beyond the arts themselves—connecting artists with public health, education, environmental justice, youth development, and other sectors that shape the well-being of a community.
This is a conversation about community, stewardship, and what it really takes to build an ecosystem where artists—and the communities they serve—can flourish together.
Notable MentionsPeopleAlice Lovelace: Poet, educator, Executive Director of ArtsXchange, and longtime leader in community-based arts, cultural organizing, and social justice.Barbara Shaffer Bacon: Cultural policy leader, educator, and founding co-director of Animating Democracy, widely recognized for advancing arts-based civic engagement and cultural policy.Lenny Sloan: Beloved community arts advocate, cultural organizer, and longtime colleague remembered as one of the inspirations behind this conversation series.Maynard Jackson: Atlanta's first African American mayor, remembered for expanding civic participation and public investment in the arts.Shirley Franklin: Former mayor of Atlanta whose administration continued significant investment in the city's cultural infrastructure.Robert Peters: Mashpee Wampanoag artist, writer, and cultural leader whose work integrates Indigenous traditions, storytelling, ceremony, and community healing.Roberta Uno: Founder of New WORLD Theater and one of America's leading advocates for culturally specific and community-based theater.
Organizations & InitiativesCenter for the Study of Art & Community: Producer of ART IS CHANGE and advancing arts-based community development and cultural organizing.ArtsXchange: Atlanta-based interdisciplinary arts organization dedicated to community cultural development, creative leadership, and social justice.Animating Democracy: National initiative advancing civic engagement, community development, and social change through the arts.New WORLD Theater: Groundbreaking multicultural theater that elevated artists and communities of color while reshaping American theater.Public Art Network: National professional network supporting public artists, public art programs, and civic arts leadership.Arts on Prescription: An emerging healthcare movement integrating arts participation into medical care through clinician referrals and social prescribing.
PlacesAtlanta, Georgia: Principal case study illustrating strengths and vulnerabilities of long-term community arts ecosystems.New Bedford, Massachusetts: Example of a city where artists, government, and community organizations have built a collaborative cultural ecosystem.Alameda, California: Home base of host Bill Cleveland and the Center for the Study of Art & Community.Minneapolis, Minnesota: Referenced as an example of a deeply interconnected community arts ecosystem.
Key Concepts & PracticesArts Ecosystems: The interconnected relationships among artists, organizations, funders, institutions, and communities that collectively sustain creative life.Cross-sector Collaboration: Partnerships linking artists with public health, education, environmental justice, youth development, and community planning.Creative Commons (Community Sense): Bill Cleveland's metaphor describing artistic communities where collaboration, mentoring, reciprocity, and mutual aid become cultural norms.Arts on Prescription: A growing international practice in which healthcare professionals prescribe arts participation as part of treatment for physical, mental, and social well-being.
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Art Is CHANGE is a podcast that chronicles the power of art and community transformation, providing a platform for activist artists to share their experiences and gain the skills and strategies they need to thrive as agents of social change.
Through compelling conversations with artist activists, artivists, and cultural organizers, the podcast explores how art and activism intersect to fuel cultural transformation and drive meaningful change. Guests discuss the challenges and triumphs of community arts, socially engaged art, and creative placemaking, offering insights into artist mentorship, building credibility, and communicating impact.
Episodes delve into the realities of artist isolation, burnout, and funding for artists, while celebrating the role of artists in residence and creative leadership in shaping a more just and inclusive world. Whether you’re an emerging or established artist for social justice, this podcast offers inspiration, practical advice, and a sense of solidarity in the journey toward art and social change.
184: Ariel Fristoe: -Theater as a Civic Commons
2026/07/01
Ariel Fristoe: Theater as a Civic Commons
What happens when theater stops asking audiences simply to watch and starts inviting communities to listen, speak, and act?
In this conversation, Bill Cleveland talks with Ariel Fristoe, founder and Artistic Director of Out of Hand Theater in Atlanta, about a lifetime spent reclaiming theater’s oldest purpose—not entertainment alone, but civic life. Together they explore how storytelling, conversation, and community partnerships can become practical tools for reducing polarization, strengthening democratic participation, and helping neighbors encounter one another as fellow human beings rather than strangers.
From foster parenting to community organizing, from performances in living rooms to citywide dinners on racial equity, Ariel describes a practice built on a deceptively simple recipe: Art to open hearts. Information to open minds. Conversation to inspire action.
In this episode:
Why theater originally existed as a civic commons—and why Ariel believes it should become one again.The story behind Decatur Dinners, where more than 1,200 strangers gathered in homes across one city for conversations about race.Ariel’s vision for a modern “federal theatre project” that would put artists to work helping communities address their most pressing challenges.How community conversations created through theater can strengthen civic participation and democratic life.
ART IS CHANGE Episode 184
Notable Mentions
People
Ariel Fristoe — Founder and Artistic Director of Out of Hand Theater, nationally recognized for developing theater-based civic engagement models that combine performance, dialogue, and community action.Bill Cleveland — Host of Art Is Change, artist, researcher, and founder of the Center for the Study of Art & Community.Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. — Civil rights leader whose vision of the “Beloved Community” profoundly influences Ariel's work and the mission of Out of Hand Theater.Bryan Stevenson — Civil rights attorney, founder of the Equal Justice Initiative, and author of Just Mercy. Ariel references his conviction that hope is the enemy of injustice.Malunga Casquelourd — Congolese cultural leader and teaching artist whose work at San Quentin Prison used traditional storytelling, music, and movement to create dialogue across prison factions.Nikki Young — Playwright whose work appears in the Decatur Dinners performance excerpt featured in this episode.Jesenia Ingram — Atlanta actor performing the excerpt from Nikki Young's play during the Decatur Dinners segment.Brian Goldstone — Journalist and anthropologist whose Pulitzer Prize-winning book There Is No Place for Us examines housing insecurity and the working poor in Atlanta.
Organizations & Initiatives
Out of Hand Theater — Atlanta-based theater company working at the intersection of art, civic engagement, and social justice through performances, community dialogue, and partnerships.Community Impact Lab — Out of Hand Theater's national training initiative helping artists, activists, and community leaders develop arts-based civic engagement projects.“Equitable Dinners” — Out of Hand's signature model combining a short play, shared meal, facilitated dialogue, and concrete civic action.“Shows in Homes” — Long-running initiative bringing professional theater into private homes to spark conversations around difficult community issues.“We Hold These Truths” — Out of Hand Theater's America250 initiative using four original plays and community dinners to encourage conversations across political, racial, and cultural differences.Center for the Study of Art & Community — Producer of Art Is Change.Charles F. Kettering Foundation — Partner through its Democracy and the Arts program.National Endowment for the Arts — Federal arts agency supporting public access to the arts, including Out of Hand's America250 initiative.The King Center — Atlanta institution dedicated to advancing Dr. King's philosophy of nonviolence.The Carter Center — International nonprofit advancing peace, democracy, and public health.National Center for Civil and Human Rights — Atlanta museum and educational center exploring links between the U.S. Civil Rights Movement and global human rights.United Way of Greater Atlanta — Regional nonprofit working to improve education, housing, and economic mobility.Atlanta Regional Commission — Metropolitan planning agency serving the Atlanta region.Mixed Blood Theatre — Minneapolis theater company licensing Out of Hand's community dinner model.RealTime Arts — Pittsburgh arts organization presenting Out of Hand's civic engagement model.
Events & Projects
America250 — National commemoration of the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, inspiring Out of Hand's “We Hold These Truths” initiative.“Decatur Dinners” — Landmark civic arts initiative in which more than 1,200 participants gathered in homes across Decatur for performances and conversations about racial equity.
Publications & Research
There Is No Place for Us: Working and Homeless in America — Brian Goldstone's Pulitzer Prize-winning investigation into working homelessness in Atlanta.International Journal of Arts Management — Peer-reviewed journal publishing Ariel Fristoe's research on Out of Hand Theater's community-centered business model.Journal of Arts Management, Law, and Society — Scholarly journal publishing research related to arts management and cultural policy.
American Theatre — National publication covering nonprofit theater, including Out of Hand Theater's America250 initiative.
“Out of Hand Theater: Monetizing Creativity”— Harvard Business School case study examining Out of Hand Theater's innovative business model.
Places & Institutions
Martin Luther King Jr. National Historical Park — Historic district where Ariel Fristoe lives and works.Hope-Hill Elementary School — Neighborhood school Ariel describes as transforming her understanding of segregation and systemic racism.San Quentin Rehabilitation Center — California correctional institution referenced in Bill Cleveland's story about arts-based conflict resolution.Boston Children's Theatre — Historic theater where
183: Paola Mendoza - What if the Most Powerful Antidote for Tyranny is an Artist with a Story?
2026/06/23
In this episode we're joined by filmmaker, organizer, novelist, visual artist, and self described conjurer of stories, Paola Mendoza. For more than two decades, Paola has used every tool she can get her hands on.
Film, theater, public art, organizing, and literature to tell stories that expand our understanding of who counts, who belongs.
The daughter of Colombian immigrants, she's dedicated her artist force of nature life to portraying America's vital immigrant communities with dignity, complexity and humanity at a time when those qualities are often under attack.
In our conversation, we'll explore:
the roots of Paola's story making practice,the role of art in resisting authoritarianism,what Paola's novel Sanctuary can teach us about building communities of care, dangerous times,and how artists across the country are using the 2026 World cup to create a powerful counter narrative through the no Ice in the cup campaign.
This is a conversation about storytelling, solidarity, and the enduring power of imagination to help us build the world we want to inhabit.
Notable MentionsPeoplePaola Mendoza: Colombian-born filmmaker, author, artist, and cultural organizer whose work focuses on immigration, belonging, democracy, and social change through storytelling.
Abby Sher: Award-winning writer and co-author of Sanctuary, the young-adult novel that imagines a future America shaped by authoritarianism, immigrant persecution, and grassroots resistance.
Jordan Seaberry: Artist, organizer, and founder of The Ulysses Initiative whose work bridges civic engagement, public art, and democracy-building. He coordinated the commissioning of artists for the No ICE in the Cup campaign.
Organizations & InitiativesNo ICE in the Cup: A national artist-led and community-based campaign using art, storytelling, sports, and public action to promote belonging and oppose immigration enforcement activities connected to the 2026 FIFA World Cup.
The Horizons Project: A cross-ideological coalition of organizations working to strengthen democracy and prevent authoritarianism through civic action, strategic coordination, and public engagement.
The Center for the Study of Art & Community: Bill Cleveland’s long-running organization dedicated to advancing arts-based community development, cultural organizing, and social change.
PublicationsSanctuary: Paola Mendoza and Abby Sher’s bestselling novel set in a future America where undocumented immigrants are hunted by the government and communities must rely on mutual aid and solidarity to survive.
Solis: Mendoza’s companion novel to Sanctuary, expanding the story’s exploration of authoritarianism, resistance, and immigrant survival.
Together We Rise: Behind the Scenes at the Protest Heard Around the World: Mendoza’s collaborative account of the Women’s March and the organizing lessons behind one of the largest mass mobilizations in U.S. history.
Events2026 FIFA World Cup: The largest sporting event in the world and the catalyst for No ICE in the Cup’s effort to promote welcome, inclusion, and democratic values across host cities.
New York State Cup: New York’s premier youth soccer championship competition, referenced in the conversation as the tournament won by members of the youth team that later participated in a No ICE in the Cup community event.
Places & InstitutionsBrooklyn, New York: Mendoza’s home community and the location of one of the grassroots soccer and community-organizing events associated with No ICE in the Cup.
Statue of Liberty: Iconic symbol of immigration and welcome that served as the backdrop for a No ICE in the Cup banner action marking the opening of the World Cup.
Minneapolis, Minnesota: Frequently cited in the interview as an example of a city with deep organizing traditions and community networks capable of mobilizing mutual aid and resistance during times of crisis.
Lenape Homeland: The ancestral homeland of the Lenape people, acknowledged by Mendoza when describing Brooklyn as the place from which she joined the conversation.
Arts & Cultural ReferencesJack in the Box: The fast-food restaurant where Mendoza’s mother found one of her first jobs after immigrating to the United States, a formative part of the family’s immigrant story.
The Theater: Described by Mendoza as the foundation of her creative practice—a place where she discovered storytelling, community, and her own voice as an artist.
*******Art Is CHANGE is a podcast that chronicles the power of art and community transformation, providing a platform for activist artists to share their experiences and gain the skills and strategies they need to thrive as agents of social change.
Through compelling conversations with artist activists, artivists, and cultural organizers, the podcast explores how art and activism intersect to fuel cultural transformation and drive meaningful change. Guests discuss the challenges and triumphs of community arts, socially engaged art, and creative placemaking, offering insights into artist mentorship, building credibility, and communicating impact.
Episodes delve into the realities of artist isolation, burnout, and funding for artists, while celebrating the role of artists in residence and creative leadership in shaping a more just and inclusive world. Whether you’re an emerging or established artist for social justice, this podcast offers inspiration, practical advice, and a sense of solidarity in the journey toward art and social change.
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Sofia114 2025/06/15
A resounding yes!
When I was in my 20s I used to read this magazine called Yes! as an antidote to all the bad news that was “The News. “ Art is Change is another antido...
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LoomerPas 2025/06/05
Art is Change!
This podcast is inspiring and useful. A rare and great combo.
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qqqqqqqzzzzzzzzeee 2025/04/30
What a gem, what a resource!
Wholehearted thank you to Mr. Cleveland for this archive of transformative practices.
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Recoveryandredemption 2022/04/14
Love love love
I absolutely love this show especially the one about our pasts can totally relate.