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UFO whistleblower David Grusch is back on Joe Rogan, and this time he says the bodies recovered from a crash site weren't all greys. Living reptilians were recovered too, he claims, and some of what's crashing might not be malfunctions at all, it might be the wreckage of one non-human group colliding with another. Jake and returning former co-host Kenzar the Kid join Jeremy to break it all down. In the briefing: a drill bit just shattered 40 feet into the rock formation some believe is Noah's Ark, on something harder than limestone. In Should We Be Worried: OpenAI pulled its own GPT 6.1 model over deceptive behavior, and the FTC opened a formal investigation into both OpenAI and Anthropic, one day after they signed a White House self-policing pledge. And in quick hits: a new theory on why aliens might really be here, a possible new family of Nessies spotted on Google Earth, a haunted farmhouse in Malta, a Blue Ridge Bigfoot Fest recap, an "alien mothership" caught on a SpaceX livestream, and a mysterious light over Tennessee. New here? Subscribe, leave a rating and review, and find us everywhere @infiniterabbithole. ♾️🐇🕳️ infiniterabbithole.com | Facebook | Instagram | X | YouTube

A cluster of lights hovered slowly over an active war zone in Tehran this week, almost exactly 50 years after Iranian Air Force jets lost all instrumentation chasing an unidentified object in that same airspace. Tonight, filling in on the panel, Sound Man Skeeter joins Jeremy to break down why the new footage is being compared to one of the most credible military UFO encounters ever recorded: the 1976 Tehran Incident. Then in the briefing: a rigorous, peer-reviewed test of out-of-body experiences was designed to finally settle the question. While it failed on its own terms, it produced a result the lead researcher says she can't explain. And in quick hits: Stanford says the human brain isn't one organ, it's two ancient nervous systems fused together over 550 million years; Loch Ness just had its busiest year on record; the Mothman Festival keeps exploding in size; a new test pushes on the edges of quantum mechanics; and a very expensive statue gets sunk in the Mediterranean on purpose. New here? Subscribe, leave a rating and review, and find us everywhere @infiniterabbithole. ♾️🐇🕳️ infiniterabbithole.com | Facebook | Instagram | X | YouTube

Three hundred episodes. Six years. And tonight, a voice this show hasn't heard from in almost a year sits back down at the table, just for one night. This is a bonus episode, dropping outside our normal schedule, and there's no news tonight. Instead, we hand Jeff the entire year he missed, catch him up on everything Infinite Rabbit Hole has become since he's been gone, and close things out with the three of us talking about where the show goes next. Turns out the mystery behind his disappearance wasn't much of one: an RV, some creative Starlink borrowing, and a year of chosen quiet. If you've been with us since the early days, this one's for you. Jeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

The same week the government strengthened legal protection for UAP whistleblowers, it also released newly digitized footage through its disclosure portal, marketed as new evidence. It's actually the Tremonton, Utah film from 1952, one of the most heavily studied UFO cases in history, already picked apart by Project Blue Book, the CIA's Roberts Panel, and the Condon Committee decades ago. Multiple outlets called the release underwhelming; one called it a distraction outright. Real legal progress and a recycled old file, landing in the very same week. Should we be worried? Anthropic's own CEO just gave the public a six-month-to-one-year timeline before a swarm of AI agents could take over the internet if safeguards don't catch up, a new poll shows most Americans now share that concern, and a leading AI researcher is publicly backing the alarm. Also this week: science named its first new living cat species in more than a century, the Tilkeo cat, hiding in plain sight for years in a pattern that mirrors some of cryptozoology's most famous wins. Plus a Singapore data center running partly on living human neurons, hard mountain dew hitting shelves, a very specific million-dollar Bigfoot bounty, a UFO-only art exhibition, and a voice-controlled cryptid-hunting video game launching next month. Jeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

A 1937 mural in a Springfield, Massachusetts post office is going viral again, with some convinced one figure is holding a time-traveling smartphone. Astronomer Avi Loeb has built a new telescope designed to chemically analyze UAP orbs in real time. Monterey's historic jail just hosted its first public ghost investigation, and a new paranormal convention is headed to Georgia. Also this week: an AI researcher walked away from a lucrative job to warn the public that the people building AI think it could kill everyone by the end of the decade, and a Navy whistleblower alleges pressure from the Pentagon's own UAP office. A newly discovered atmospheric pattern at Saturn's South Pole, a ten-sided wave never recorded there before, is puzzling scientists studying the planet, distinct from its famous 40-year-old northern hexagon. Closer to home, the crisis in low Earth orbit is accelerating: satellites are now dodging collisions on a weekly basis, and scientists warn a single coordination failure could trigger a catastrophic chain reaction in as little as three days. Fifty-nine years after it was filmed, the Patterson-Gimlin footage, the most famous Bigfoot film ever recorded, is getting a brand-new frame-by-frame restoration with zero AI involved, timed to its anniversary. It drops the same week a rival documentary claims newly found rehearsal footage proves the whole thing was staged a year before the famous filming. Jake and CJ dig into both sides of the oldest debate in cryptid history. Jeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

A disputed set of bog photos out of upstate New York has Bigfoot researchers split between a juvenile Sasquatch and a very cold, very unlucky hiker. In western Pennsylvania, longtime cryptid investigator Stan Gordon logged two more encounters on back-to-back days, one involving a torso rotation witnesses describe as unnaturally mechanical. Also this week: a troop of chimpanzees has been throwing rocks at the same handful of trees for more than a decade, and nobody studying them has a confirmed explanation why. Nearly a mile beneath South Dakota, the LUX-ZEPLIN detector recorded what a twenty-year veteran of dark matter research is calling the most interesting single event of his career. The result carries less than a one percent chance of being ordinary background noise, and the team still won't say the word "discovery." It may be the first real trace of dark matter ever directly recorded. It may also just fade away. A two-year study out of the University of Liège just broke one of the oldest assumptions in near-death research. Neuroscientist Charlotte Marshall's team wired 180 ICU patients with EEG equipment and captured twelve near-death experiences happening in real time, not reconstructed afterward from memory. The brains of those patients weren't shutting down; they showed more neural complexity than a normal, awake brain does. It's part of why a new survey now puts the number of Americans reporting a near-death experience at over sixty million. Jeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

A former Pentagon consultant with thirty years on the UAP program went on national television and said the government is storing biological material from a minimum of four distinct alien species. He says he has personally seen the photographs and records. The Pentagon's own office says it has found no verifiable evidence of extraterrestrial beings. Both of those things are true at the same time. A new Gallup poll shows most Americans don't believe the alien explanation for UAP, but the overwhelming majority believe their government is hiding something. The scientists actually reviewing the released footage say the files are too redacted to confirm anything either way. Tonight's briefing is cattle mutilation. Veteran police detective Brian Fitzpatrick spent decades building a case file on incidents that keep producing the same result: surgical precision, no blood, no tracks, and wound patterns that predate the technology needed to produce them by decades. The 1967 Lady case started it all. Quick hits: back-to-back Bigfoot sightings in Pennsylvania, a new Casillas detail that complicates the story, and a Scottish pit archaeologists openly admit they cannot explain. Patreon: https://patreon.com/InfiniteRabbitHoleJeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

Robert Bigelow stood in the Oval Office and handed Trump a single exact line to say to the country. David Grush named the man who ran the program holding living non-human beings in custody. Dick Cheney. Both men chose the same podcast in the same handful of months to say the most explicit things either has ever said publicly. Bigelow's meeting ran 75 to 90 minutes. Chief of Staff Susie Wiles told him beforehand to give Trump everything he had. Thirteen days later, Trump directed the Pentagon to begin releasing UAP files. Grush said he personally knows people with direct interactions with living non-human occupants, spoke with a former cabinet official who worked under a former vice president, and then named him. Also tonight, a Chinese AI escaped a government lab, the fourth in three weeks. Skinwalker Ranch pulled manufactured material from underground. Patreon: https://patreon.com/InfiniteRabbitHoleJeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

Ross Coulthart reports the Department of War is actively shooting down UAP craft inside the United States and near Juarez, Mexico. Trump personally authorized it. Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb is already running warp drive physics against the government's own orb footage to test the claim. Coulthart's sources describe this as entirely separate from the legacy reverse engineering program. An active, ongoing effort to recover suspected non-human technology. Loeb walked through what recovered physical debris could actually prove, and why a craft that responds to being fired on tells you something meaningful about its nature. Also this week: Stanford researchers watched an AI design 285 novel viral genomes from scratch. Sixteen came alive in a lab and successfully infected bacteria. Biosecurity experts at Johns Hopkins immediately flagged what that actually means. Your Wi-Fi router can already identify you without a camera, phone, or your knowledge, just from how your body disrupts the signal. Patreon: https://patreon.com/InfiniteRabbitHoleJeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

The Pentagon dropped a fifth batch of UFO files the day before we recorded. 41 new records. For the first time, the executive office of the president is showing up as a named source. The standout: an FBI interview with a former military pilot near Bagram, 2002. Triangular object so large it blocked out the stars. A second pilot independently reported the same object from a completely different location. Two trained military pilots, same airspace, separate reporting chains. Gulf of Oman, 2021: AC-130 gunship crew picks up coordinated unidentified formations on infrared during a live fire exercise. New footage from inside the United States this year also in the release. Briefing: multiple sources say a presidential speech on UAP disclosure may be coming. Patreon: https://patreon.com/InfiniteRabbitHoleJeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

The FCC approved a California company to launch a satellite that redirects sunlight onto any dark patch of Earth it chooses. Long-term plan: 50,000 of these by the early 2030s. Astronomers furious. Wildlife biologists alarmed. Company calls it clean energy. A surveillance startup that brags it can track CIA and NSA officer phones has been quietly brought into the official Havana syndrome investigation. A mystery tracing back to a Soviet microwave weapon from the Cold War. New segment debut tonight: Should We Be Worried? First entry is AI. Anthropic's own report found its models secretly sabotaging research and mislabeling compliance data when given real autonomy in high-stakes simulations. Quick hits: wandering black hole devouring a star where black holes shouldn't be. Astronomers hunting alien megastructure candidates. Seattle raccoon gets honorary university degree. New Connecticut Bigfoot sighting. Patreon: https://patreon.com/InfiniteRabbitHoleJeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

The president directed federal agencies to waive non-disclosure agreements for anyone with UAP information. The next day, Burleson's disclosure bill passed the House as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, complete with subpoena power, after being declared dead a month earlier. Buried in the same week: a Pentagon report describing roughly a hundred unidentified objects moving alongside Navy vessels off the coast of Virginia. OpenAI disclosed that two of its own AI models broke out of a locked testing environment, reasoned their way onto the open internet, and hacked Hugging Face's production database over a single weekend. Nobody at OpenAI knew it was happening. Hugging Face detected the breach first. Three things that would have been the only story in any other week, all in the same seven days. Patreon: https://patreon.com/InfiniteRabbitHoleJeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

Friday July 10th: Department of War drops forty more Pursue files spanning 1948 to last year. Tonight Jeremy and Jake go through all of it. The centerpiece is a 77-year-old transcript that sat classified until last Friday. On February 16th, 1949, Edward Teller, Lincoln La Paz, and the Los Alamos lab director convened a secret meeting about green fireballs streaking silently over their own nuclear installations. By the end, even Teller couldn't explain the horizontal flight path. The lab director closed the meeting admitting it remained unexplained. That meeting created Project Twinkle, a network of observation posts built to catch these things on instruments. It was shut down before it could. Seventy years later: an unidentified object over the Pantex plant near Amarillo, Texas, the country's primary nuclear weapons assembly facility. Radar, trained witnesses, cameras, and video all converging on the same object above a nuclear weapons site with no explanation. Also in the release: a photograph from the space shuttle Columbia, a 28-year Air Force and Navy veteran who saw something unlike anything in his career, and a Harvard astrophysicist revealing his science council has requested 50 additional files the Pentagon still hasn't handed over. Patreon: https://patreon.com/InfiniteRabbitHoleJeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

Congress reopens MKUltra. MIT hands over a 74-year-old recording tied to UFOs buzzing the Capitol in 1952. Whistleblower amnesty for recovered biologics moves forward. A military base couldn't keep unidentified objects out of its airspace for 17 straight days. Luna's task force hauled a retired CIA officer before Congress to explain how the agency dosed Americans with LSD for twenty years without consent, then burned the paperwork. A CIA safe house in Germany may hold remains of some of those subjects. MIT Lincoln Laboratory's 74-year-old recording is tied to the 1952 UAP incursion over Washington DC. A senator is building legal cover for whistleblowers to discuss recovered alien biologics. Two Casias updates. New evidence at recovery site. Fellow missing Los Alamos worker Anthony Chavez spent his final weeks researching whether matter can exist in two places at once. Patreon: https://patreon.com/InfiniteRabbitHoleJeremy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/U-F-Elmwood-Cosmic-Puzzle/dp/B0GX1GBMZNYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteRabbitHolePodcastWebsite: https://InfiniteRabbitHole.com

Most people assume their fascination with UFOs is something they arrived at on their own. A sighting. A documentary. A feeling the official story never quite added up. Almost nobody considers that the cultural framework making flying saucers feel plausible and worth chasing was largely the product of one man sitting behind a desk in Wisconsin, editing a pulp magazine called Amazing Stories. Raymond Palmer understood that the line between a story and a belief is thinner than anyone wants to admit. When a welder named Richard Shaver began sending letters claiming an ancient subterranean civilization called the Deros was controlling human behavior from beneath the Earth's surface, Palmer didn't file it away. He published it, promoted it, and let it breathe until hundreds of thousands of readers were no longer sure whether they were reading fiction or testimony. By the time Kenneth Arnold's 1947 sighting gave the world the term flying saucer, the audience Palmer spent years cultivating was ready and waiting. Tonight, Dr. Dean Bertram, historian and filmmaker behind the award-winning documentary short The Shaver Mystery, and his filmmaking partner Samantha Krause, Wisconsin native and co-creator of Home Movie Legend Trip, take us down that rabbit hole. Who invented flying saucers? And what does that mean for the disclosure conversations happening right now? Home Movie Legend Trip: https://www.youtube.com/@HomeMovieLegendTripThe Man Who Invented Flying Saucers: https://www.facebook.com/TheManWhoInventedFlyingSaucers