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Ken Fish and Joel Taylor welcome back Dr. Craig Keener—one of the world’s leading New Testament scholars—to discuss his new book, Spiritual Gifts Are for Today: A Biblical Case for the Continuing Work of the Spirit, co-written with Daniel Kolenda of Christ for All Nations. Written in response to the recent wave of hard cessationism, the book makes a thorough, scripture-saturated case that the gifts of the Spirit are for the church today. Craig and Joel walk through its boldest arguments: why the cessationist hermeneutic, applied consistently, would also throw out teaching, salvation, and the Great Commission; why 1 Corinthians 13 points to Christ’s return, not a closed canon; and the “apostles and oranges” confusion between apostleship and the writing of Scripture.  In this conversation: Why Craig and Daniel Kolenda wrote the book now How the cessationist hermeneutic, applied consistently, collapses Why 1 Corinthians 13 points to Christ’s return, not a closed canon “Apostles and oranges”—apostleship vs. the writing of Scripture Whether apostolic “foundation-laying” continues today The strongest argument for cessationism—and the biblical answer Persistence in prayer, and why some healings are real but not rapid Navigating scandals and falls with a sound biblical framework Keeping a cutting edge in the Spirit while working in the academy Don’t throw out the gifts because some misuse them—correct the abuse, and earnestly seek the gifts, because the God who gives them is not a theory. 📅 Hear Dr. Craig Keener and Ken Fish together at the Heal the Healers conference | Oct 30–31 | Boston, MA. Look it up online to register. Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

Ken Fish and Joel Taylor are joined by Dr. Sam Storms—theologian, author, and longtime pastor—for a careful, substantive conversation about the doctrine of last things: what Scripture actually teaches about the fate of the unsaved. Together they define the terms and weigh the views: eternal conscious punishment (the historic position), annihilationism and its modern form conditional immortality, and universalism. Drawing on texts like Matthew 25 and Revelation 14, Sam makes the biblical case for the traditional view while engaging the strongest arguments on the other side with honesty and charity. The conversation keeps returning to a deeper root: nearly every theological error flows from a misconception about the nature of God—and much of modern theology has quietly turned into anthropology, exalting human feeling over God's revealed Word. In this conversation: Defining the terms: eternal conscious punishment, annihilationism, conditional immortality, universalism The key texts—Matthew 25 and Revelation 14—and how "eternal" is used Why most theological error traces back to a misconception of God's character How modern theology turned into anthropology—human feeling over God's Word Why "hyper-grace" and a one-dimensional view of love open the door to universalism Whether annihilationism logically collapses into universalism John Stott's honest struggle—and why emotions can't be the standard of truth Holding conviction with charity toward fellow believers who differ Why biblical immortality isn't the same as Plato's immortality of the soul Don't let your preferences be the final word—submit your heart to the authority of Scripture, because bad theology hurts people. Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

Ken Fish and Joel Taylor sit down with Dr. Joshua Brown—neuroscientist, professor of psychological and brain sciences, and author of Proving a Miracle: Unlocking the Power of Prayer to Heal. Josh shares the story that set him on this path: at 30, days after his first child was born, he was diagnosed with a brain tumor and given little medical hope. What followed was a years-long pursuit of healing prayer—and, eventually, a clean scan. That journey turned a hard-nosed brain scientist into a careful investigator of divine healing, and this conversation models how faith and rigorous inquiry can work together rather than against each other. In this conversation: Josh's journey from a brain-tumor diagnosis to a clean scan What actually counts as a "miracle"—and why precision builds credibility How placebo and mind-body effects work (and where they break down) Scientific vs. historical ways of investigating a healing The randomized clinical trial of prayer—and what it found Why the hard questions should come from inside the church Confirmation bias—and guarding against it without losing faith How our beliefs are shaped by experience, not just Scripture A brief, candid detour into UFOs, trauma, and discernment Not everything is a miracle—and if everything is, then nothing is. Precision about what God has done makes the testimony stronger, not weaker. 📅 Hear more from Dr. Joshua Brown and Ken Fish at the Heal the Healers conference | Oct 30–31 | Boston, MA: https://healthehealersconference.com Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

Ken Fish and Kady Taylor welcome back Jerame Nelson—revivalist, evangelist, and pastor of Rev Church, who has seen millions come to Christ in the nations—and a returning speaker at the upcoming Luminosity conference (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Jerame shares from a year marked by revival, international crusades, and remarkable creative miracles, and senses another move of God stirring. But the conversation goes deeper than the miraculous. Against the backdrop of recent falls and exposures in ministry, Jerame and Ken talk candidly about responding rather than reacting, refusing hero worship, and why solid foundations, real discipleship, and consecration born of love—not legalism—are the way forward. In this conversation: A year of revival, international crusades, and creative miracles Responding rather than reacting to falls and exposures in ministry Overcoming hero worship—anchoring faith in Jesus, not people Why the enemy targets and "falsely promotes" a cracked foundation Discerning a true word of knowledge from a "familiar spirit" Why the coming move needs a manifestation of love, not just power How Jesus discipled the unlikely—and tested them by sending them out Consecration born of love, not legalism—and the fear of the Lord Conviction vs. condemnation—and how to tell the difference Fall so in love with Jesus that you'd never want to grieve His heart—that's where holiness begins. Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ ❤️‍🩹 Healing service September 30 | NOW AT FULL CAPACITY - the service portion of the evening will be livestreamed and available online here. Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

Ken Fish and Kady Taylor welcome back David Taylor—a seasoned prophet, longtime friend of Ken's from their Fuller Seminary and Vineyard days, and a returning speaker at the upcoming Luminosity conference (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ With more than 50 years of prophetic experience, David brings hard-won wisdom to this year's theme of consecration and holiness. Reflecting on the recent shaking in prophetic ministry, he and Ken talk honestly about the temptations that derail prophets—fear of failure, insecurity, the craving for affirmation, and financial pressure—and the way back: the fear of the Lord, integrity, and relationships that keep us grounded. David also opens up about his own prophetic journey, the character-forging wilderness years, and the encounters that marked his calling. In this conversation: The temptations that derail prophets—and the way back to integrity Isaiah 32: "the noble man makes noble plans, and by noble deeds he stands" Why relationship, not just "accountability," keeps us grounded David's prophetic journey—from conversion at 18 to the wilderness years Angelic encounters, visions, and how common they are among prophets How to grow in hearing God—the discipline of listening The five-fold ministry pictured as a sailing ship The life of Joseph: "tested until it proved him true" Living the long game—a seed that must fall and die to bear fruit Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ ❤️‍🩹 Healing service September 30 | NOW AT FULL CAPACITY - the service portion of the evening will be livestreamed and available online here. Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

Ken Fish is joined by Grant Pemberton, Kady Taylor, and returning guest Melissa Chalhoub—a prophetic minister whose heart is to help people discern the voice of God with accuracy, humility, and love, and a speaker at the upcoming Luminosity conference (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ After several painful years of exposure and upheaval in prophetic ministry, this conversation asks the honest questions: What is God doing in the midst of it all? What is the enemy after? And how do we reform the prophetic without throwing it away? Together they hold two things at once—unflinching honesty about the abuse, hype, and lack of accountability that have wounded so many, and a deep conviction that genuine prophetic ministry heals, sets free, and points people to Jesus. Melissa shares candidly about her own journey and about learning to trust God's voice even through the smallest details. In this conversation: What God is doing—and what the enemy is after—in the shaking of the prophetic Why the prophetic heals, sets free, and points people to Jesus The "commercialization of the Holy Spirit" and the need for accountability "The answer to abuse is never neglect"—reforming without quenching the Spirit Acknowledging the pain of those wounded by prophetic abuse How every believer can learn to hear God's voice Melissa's own journey with the prophetic The role of discernment—and asking God for it Hosting the presence of God and "bringing back the ark" Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ ❤️‍🩹 Healing service September 30 | NOW AT FULL CAPACITY - the service portion of the evening will be livestreamed and available online here. Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

Ken Fish and Joel Taylor welcome back Dr. Craig Keener—one of the world's leading New Testament scholars and a returning speaker at the Luminosity conference (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Bringing deep knowledge of Scripture together with a genuine hunger for the Holy Spirit, Dr. Keener unpacks this year's theme: consecration and holiness. He shares how he came to see holiness not as legalism or externals, but as loving God so much that nothing else compares—a burning, consuming fire. Drawing on the biblical language of light and glory and his firsthand experience of the 2023 Asbury outpouring, he describes a holiness that is deeply joyful: God's presence made accessible, His grace not only forgiving sin but transforming us into the image of His Son. In this conversation: Holiness as loving God above all—not legalism or externals The biblical language of light, glory & the cloud of God's presence Dr. Keener's firsthand experience of the 2023 Asbury outpouring Why grace is about both salvation AND transformation How word and Spirit belong together Walking and being led by the Spirit day by day "Consecrated in Christ"—already set apart, called to live it out How one generation's revival can become the next's legalism The awakening the church needs in this hour Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ ❤️‍🩹 Healing service September 30 | NOW AT FULL CAPACITY - the service portion of the evening will be livestreamed and available online here. Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

Church Planting, Discipleship & the Grace to Be Holy | Ken Fish, Jimmy Seibert & Joel Taylor  Ken Fish and Joel Taylor welcome back Jimmy Seibert—leader of Antioch Waco and the Antioch Movement, one of the most effective church-planting movements in the Western world, and a speaker at the upcoming Luminosity conference (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Jimmy shares how the movement grew out of a full surrender as a young believer and a conviction that the local church is meant to both house and multiply the glory of God. The conversation ranges across world evangelization, why believers buy the lie that they aren't needed, and how partnering with God to reach every people group helps prepare the way for Christ's return. At its heart, it's about intimacy with God as the source of everything—"it takes God to do the work of God"—and why consecration and holiness are themselves a grace: power over sin, not just forgiveness of it. In this conversation: How the Antioch church-planting movement grew out of full surrender "A church for every 1,000 people"—and why the US is underserved Why the enemy's great lie is that you're not needed Partnering with God to "hasten" Christ's return (Matthew 24:14) Reaching the next generation through heart, home, and shared mission Discipleship that empowers rather than creates dependence Maturity as taking responsibility for your own walk with God Consecration and holiness as grace—power over sin, not just forgiveness Why you can't set others free until you've been set free Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)❤️‍🩹 Healing Service: September 30 at Franklin Vineyard 🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

What does it take to live your faith out loud in a culture that resists it? Ken Fish and Joel Taylor sit down with Casey Harper—D.C. journalist, host of The Outstanding Podcast, managing editor for broadcast at The Washington Stand, and a speaker at the upcoming Luminosity conference (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ From his vantage point between the White House and the Capitol, Casey shares his journey from small-town East Texas to the front lines of faith and public life. Together the three explore a recovered theology of persecution "for righteousness' sake," why a healthy faith must be able to stand even when the church is weak, the difference between partisanship and faithful engagement in the public square, and how personal consecration builds the fortitude to do the right thing under pressure. It all ties back to the conference theme—consecration and holiness—and Casey's striking word from Joel 3: "consecrate for war," a call to spiritual preparation, not violence. In this conversation: Casey's journey from East Texas to faith and public life in D.C. What makes living your faith "out loud" so challenging today Recovering a theology of being "persecuted for righteousness' sake" Why a mature faith can stand alone—without abandoning community Partisanship vs. politics in the public square How consecration builds inner fortitude "Consecrate for war" (Joel 3)—preparation for the days ahead The example of Perpetua and the great cloud of witnesses Hope for a generation looking for something real Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)❤️‍🩹 Healing Service: September 30 at Franklin Vineyard 🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

What if the light God placed in you only shines as the vessel breaks? Ken Fish and Kady Taylor welcome back Jeffrey Fazl—longtime friend, church planter, and deliverance minister from Australia—for an honest, tender conversation ahead of the Luminosity conference (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Jeffrey shares openly about seasons of "eclipse"—years in Indonesia, deep grief, and recent dark nights of the soul—and how the Lord kept drawing him back out with fresh purpose. From that comes the thread running through the whole conversation: brokenness feeds the carnal man, and healing it—through inner healing, deliverance, and confession together—sets us free to shine. Tying it to the conference theme, he unpacks luminosity as the light within, emerging not by striving but as the fear and performance that keep us hidden are healed. In this conversation: Jeffrey's seasons of "eclipse"—and how the Lord drew him back out Why "brokenness feeds the carnal man" How inner healing, deliverance, and confession work together Luminosity as the light within, emerging as the vessel breaks The difference between damaging brokenness and being broken before the Lord Keeping a soft heart instead of hardening it The war against a "performance" mindset Reaching the next generation with heroes, encounter, and real power Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)❤️‍🩹 Healing Service: September 30 at Franklin Vineyard 🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

What happened to the prophetic movement—and what will it take to rebuild it? Ken Fish and Joel Taylor sit down with John E. Thomas, leader of Streams Ministries International (founded by the late John Paul Jackson) and a speaker at the upcoming Luminosity conference (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ John argues that the implosion of the prophetic over recent years is both the inevitable fruit of what was sown and the judgment of God—a purging meant to clear away defilement so a healthier generation can arise. He traces the warning signs back to the 1990s: creeping Gnosticism and universalism, divination dressed up as revelation, the loss of the fear of the Lord, and the teaching that imagination is revelation and discernment is unnecessary. The conversation keeps returning to the conference theme—consecration and holiness—and why a clean "lens" is essential to perceiving what God is actually saying. In this conversation: Why the collapse of the prophetic was both consequence and divine judgment Why true prophetic ministry includes justice and judgment, not only comfort "Imagination is revelation" and other dangerous errors Emotional atmosphere vs. the genuine presence of God How the medium we learn through shapes the way we think Why intercession is core to the prophetic The sons of Zadok—and treating the holy as holy Why holiness keeps the lens of the soul clean Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)❤️‍🩹 Healing Service: September 30 at Franklin Vineyard Connect with Orbis Ministries 🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

In an age that rewards outrage and calls it revelation—what does real prophetic integrity look like? Ken Fish and Kady Taylor welcome back Dr. Mark Chironna—prophet, teacher, and holder of three earned doctorates—for a deep, honest conversation on the prophetic, the church, and the way forward. Dr. Mark Chironna will be one of the speakers at Luminosity (Nashville, Oct 1–3, 2026). Register: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ He names the challenges of a post-truth age—celebrity Christianity, the "McDonaldization" of the church, and self-appointed prophets without accountability—yet remains deeply hopeful about a fresh move of the Spirit in the next generation. Drawing on his book ‘Prophetic Integrity and the Elijah Legacy’, he shares candidly about his own dark season of anxiety and depression, and how God meets us in the darkness. In this conversation: Celebrity Christianity and the "McDonaldization" of the church Why the future belongs to a Spirit-filled, global church Being "Barnabas" to the next generation Dr. Mark's dark season—and how God met him in it Why accurate predictions alone don't make a true prophet The "heavenly council" and the prophethood of all believers Why there's no transformation—and no wisdom—without suffering 📘 Dr. Mark Chironna's book: Prophetic Integrity and the Elijah Legacy Register for Luminosity: 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)❤️‍🩹 Healing Service: September 30 at Franklin Vineyard 🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Connect with Orbis Ministries: 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis: 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Upcoming Event: Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

What does it mean to truly shine for God? In this episode of God Is Not a Theory, Ken Fish is joined by physicist-turned-minister Putty Putman—along with Grant Pemberton and Kady Taylor—for a thoughtful conversation ahead of Orbis Ministries' Luminosity Conference. Together, they explore the biblical meaning of luminosity—what it means to reflect God's light in the world—and why consecration and holiness are essential for every believer. They discuss how science and faith complement one another, the dangers of building morality around self, and why this is a season to embrace spiritual disciplines with renewed intentionality. Whether you're preparing to attend Luminosity or simply longing to grow deeper in your walk with Christ, this conversation offers practical wisdom and fresh encouragement. In this episode:• What "luminosity" means—and why Jesus called us the light of the world• Why science and faith flow from the same source• Consecration as an act of the will; holiness as a lifestyle• The Old Testament picture of unclean, clean, and holy• Why "toddler morality" falls short of biblical holiness• Letting God—not self—define the center of our moral universe• The present grace for spiritual disciplines and an ordered life• Recognizing God's kairos moments and responding with faith Register for Luminosity 📅 October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville Area (Bethel World Outreach Church)❤️‍🩹 Healing Service: September 30 at Franklin Vineyard 🎟️ Register today: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ Connect with Orbis Ministries 🙏 Prayer: https://orbisprayer.org/ ❤️ Give: https://subsplash.com/orbisministries/give Grow with Orbis 📖 Read: On the Road with the Holy Spirit by Ken Fish 🎓 Learn: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or contact Registrar Jo McKay at [email protected] 💪 Train: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip. 🤝 Connect: Join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, God Is Not a Theory. Send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added. Books Mentioned The Practice of the Presence of God by Brother Lawrence https://a.co/d/0bjUB0rO A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life by William Law https://a.co/d/0hDvw7Ha Upcoming Event Illumination Northwest Winter Conference📅 December 3–6, 2026📍 Father's House Church | Longview, WA 💻https://fathershousechurch.com/?page_id=49

Register for Luminosity: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Register⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign Up for Prayer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Orbis Prayer Ministry Network – Receive prayer for healing, prophecy, inner healing and deliverance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Give - Orbis Ministries⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ In this episode of God Is Not a Theory, Ken Fish is joined by Grant Pemberton and Joel Taylor to discuss the heart behind this year's Luminosity Conference and why its theme—Consecration and Holiness—is especially timely. As they reflect on the journey from Fusion and Ignition to Illumination and now Luminosity, the conversation moves beyond conference planning to explore a deeper question: What kind of Church is God preparing for the days ahead? Ken shares how each conference has built on the previous one, leading to this year's emphasis on becoming people who shine and who are radiant with the character of Jesus. Together, they discuss why miracles and healing should always be accompanied by discipleship and character formation, why humility and holiness are essential for lasting ministry, and how believers can pursue both the power of God and the life that reflects His nature. They also explain why Luminosity is designed to be more than an event—it's an invitation to deeper transformation and a renewed commitment to Christ that goes beyond the conference. Whether you're attending Luminosity or simply longing to grow in your walk with God, this conversation will encourage you to pursue a life marked by both holiness and the power of the Holy Spirit. Topics Include: The vision behind Luminosity Why consecration and holiness matter today Character and power working together Healing ministry and discipleship The importance of humility in leadership Building lasting spiritual foundations The Church's witness in a dark world Why revival begins with transformed lives Preparing for what God is doing next What to expect at Luminosity 🔑Key Takeaways: Holiness is not optional—it's central to Christian discipleship. The power of God should always be accompanied by Christlike character. Healing ministry is about loving people, not simply producing results. Humility creates space for God to work through us. Lasting revival is built on transformed lives, not momentary experiences. God is calling His Church to shine brightly in an increasingly dark world. 📅 Luminosity | October 1–3, 2026 | Nashville area (Bethel World Outreach Church)❤️‍🩹 Plus a healing service the evening of September 30 at Franklin Vineyard🎟️ Register now while early-bird pricing is available—special rates for kids and young adults: https://kingdomluminosity.org/ How to Engage with Orbis: READ: Check out Ken's book: On the Road with the Holy Spirit LEARN: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or email our Registrar, Jo McKay, at [email protected] TRAIN: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip  CONNECT: Do you want to join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, "God is not a Theory?" Please send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added to it. PARTNER: Partner with Orbis Financially: GIVE #GodIsNotATheory #KenFish #GrantPemberton #JoelTaylor #Luminosity #OrbisMinistries #FruitOfTheSpirit #Holiness #Consecration #HolySpirit #Discipleship #KingdomOfGod

Register for Luminosity: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Register⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign Up for Prayer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Orbis Prayer Ministry Network – Receive prayer for healing, prophecy, inner healing and deliverance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Give - Orbis Ministries⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ In this episode of God Is Not a Theory, Ken Fish welcomes back Dr. Richard J. Roberts—medical doctor, former psychotherapist, and theologian with over 40 years in church leadership—to finish the conversation begun last week on the dark side of Christian leadership. Having already covered narcissism, codependency, and paranoia, they turn to two more patterns that quietly derail leaders and wound those around them: the compulsive leader and the passive-aggressive leader. Dr. Richard J. Roberts explains why churches so often unintentionally advertise for—and reward—these very traits, why a gifted second-in-command can unravel once handed the top seat, and how anger that never gets named leaks out sideways and poisons a team. From there the conversation widens. Ken and Dr. Richard J. Roberts walk through the Johari Window as a tool for self-awareness, weigh behavior-change against motive-hunting, and take on the deeper questions: Can these patterns actually be healed? What does real accountability look like? And how do two powerful archetypes—the "Great Mother" who must meet every need, and the "Wise Old Man" who offers secret, deeper-life knowledge—shape (and distort) charismatic church culture. They close with wise, practical counsel for anyone who finds themselves under an unhealthy leader. Together, they discuss: The compulsive leader: perfectionism, control, workaholism, and criticism of others Why churches so often advertise for a "compulsive leader" Provision, pay, and the abuse of underpaying ministry workers The passive-aggressive leader: unowned anger, delay, barbed "humor," and the silent treatment The Johari Window—and using "I" statements to open up blind spots Behavior first, motive later: why changing the "how" often precedes the "why" Whether these patterns are fixable, and why change usually comes through process and discomfort Psychology vs. a theological lens—and recovering the care of souls Two archetypes shaping the church: the "Great Mother" and the "Wise Old Man" Discernment, angelic claims, and testing everything against the received gospel What to do if you find yourself under an unhealthy leader Honest, gracious, and deeply practical, this is a hope-filled conversation about the woundedness beneath the dysfunction—and the community, humility, and grace that make real change possible. 🔑 Key Takeaways Churches often reward the very traits that harm them Underpaying and overworking ministry staff is not godliness—it's abuse Passive-aggression is unowned anger that leaks out sideways Self-awareness grows through honest, loving feedback in real community Changing behavior often comes before understanding the "why" Change requires motivation—usually prompted by discomfort or desire The "Great Mother" and "Wise Old Man" archetypes distort church culture Test every teaching—even claimed angelic revelation—against the received gospel In a narcissistic system, the wisest first step is often to get out 📘 Check out Dr. Richard J. Roberts' book, “Rediscovering Church as Networks”: https://a.co/d/0hD3wTJW How to Engage with Orbis: READ: Check out Ken's book: On the Road with the Holy Spirit LEARN: Enroll in Orbis School of Ministry or email our Registrar, Jo McKay, at [email protected] TRAIN: Apply to serve on an upcoming overseas ministry trip  CONNECT: Do you want to join Ken's private Facebook discussion group, "God is not a Theory?" Please send a Facebook Direct Message to Bryan Orbis and a friend request to be added to it. PARTNER: Partner with Orbis Financially: GIVE #GodIsNotATheory #KenFish #RichardJRoberts