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In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Chantelle shares a deeply personal testimony all about faith, love, and how things don’t always turn out the way we hope. Chantelle grew up in New Zealand, came to know and love Jesus from a young age, and genuinely wanted to honour Him with her life. When she started a relationship with someone who didn’t know Christ, it was complicated - but over time, things seemed to change. He was showing interest in faith, coming along to church, pursued Bible school and promised to love Chantelle as Christ loves the Church - it looked like he was pursuing God just like she was. So she said yes. But on their honeymoon… something didn’t feel right. This is an honest account of Christian dating and marriage, navigating hope and discernment, and the reality that only God truly knows the heart. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Coming up 0:40 – Intro and welcome Chantelle 2:04 – Having grown children and re-entering the workforce 3:15 – Chantelle’s background and growing up in New Zealand 5:56 – When Christ became real for Chantelle 6:35 – The Wordless Book 10:35 – The humility of Christ becoming human 11:38 – Maturing in faith: works vs grace 18:00 – Choosing motherhood over career 21:08 – Beginning a relationship with someone who didn’t know Jesus 23:48 – Being confronted by a friend 25:51 – He starts coming to youth group 29:50 – First proposal, red flags, and calling it off 33:08 – Second proposal and marriage 34:02 – Realising she had made a mistake 38:00 – Reaching a place of deep despair Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura open up a thoughtful and honest conversation around our response to biblical truth - do we love it, or resist it? Reflecting on Julie Colbeth’s recent episodes, we revisits powerful moments and quotes that challenge the way we approach God, truth, and sincerity. From the tension between appearance and reality, to the danger of coming to God on our own terms, this episode explores what it means to truly know God as He is - not just as we’d prefer Him to be. This episode is an invitation to examine the heart, embrace truth even when it confronts us, and continue pursuing Jesus with sincerity grounded in truth - not just good intentions. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Coming up 0:40 – Intro 0:55 – School holiday catch up 2:50 – The OOS Fundraiser 7:00 – Reflecting on Julie Colbeth’s episodes 8:35 – Favourite quotes from Julie’s episodes 12:45 – Being confronted by Biblical truth - do you love or hate it? 18:21 – Passing wisdom to the younger generation 19:05 – Is there a Kiwi resistance to being confronted? 19:50 – How we view God vs who God is 23:40 – Godly relationships that call out sin and point you to Jesus 27:20 – Balancing sincerity and truth - the danger of the blind leading the blind 30:40 – Appearances vs reality 32:23 – When everything looks perfect… but the heart isn’t 37:41 – Is your relationship with God just for show? 39:02 – Final thought: being followers of The Way Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this final episode of the Whispers of Grace takeover on Outside of Sunday, Julie leans into a confronting but necessary conversation around mistakes—and the way we approach God. Looking at both Old and New Testament accounts, this episode gently but honestly exposes the danger of coming to God on our own terms. From Cain to Nadab and Abihu, Uzzah, and Ananias and Sapphira, we’re reminded that sincerity alone isn’t what God asks for - and that not every offering is accepted. As these stories unfold, a deeper truth begins to surface: God’s goodness is constant, and He does not conform to us. In a culture that often elevates intention over obedience, this episode invites you to pause and consider what it really means to walk with God - not just appear faithful. With reflections from the Sermon on the Mount and scriptures like Micah 6:8 and Proverbs 3:5–6, Julie brings us face to face with the sobering reality of self-deception, the holiness of God, and the quiet call back to alignment with Him. This episode isn’t about striving or performing—it’s about surrender. Not about getting it “right” in our own strength, but about trusting, obeying, and walking closely with the Lord. A grounding and thought-provoking close to the Whispers of Grace series. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Intro 1:30 – Looking at mistakes in the Old and New Testament 3:20 – “God’s goodness is constant but He does not conform to us” 3:40 – Cain and Abel (Genesis 4) 7:02 – “Not every offering is accepted” 7:50 – Preparing and following God’s instructions 10:05 – Leviticus 9:23–24 11:10 – Nadab and Abihu introduced 13:44 – “It is not enough that we mean well, we must do as God commands” 14:22 – The holiness of God—“a consuming fire” 14:49 – “Sincerity does not define truth” 15:15 – Uzzah 18:45 – “Worship and service were never meant to revolve around us” 20:55 – Ananias and Sapphira 23:12 – Image over surrender 25:17 – Do we do the same? 27:43 – Sermon on the Mount reflection 30:50 – Self-deception and a distorted gospel 33:07 – Micah 6:8 33:32 – “It’s not about performing for God, it’s about walking with Him” 33:40 – 1 Samuel 15:22 34:59 – Am I aligned with Him? 35:56 – Proverbs 3:5–6 Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this third takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace continues her powerful teaching series - this time turning to the heart of ministry. Drawing from the Old Testament priesthood and the ordination process in Exodus, Julie unpacks how ministry with God has always been rooted in something deeper than what we do - it flows from grace, and connection with God. From the clothing of the priests to the anointing oil and sacrificial offerings, this episode beautifully reveals how these practices point forward to Jesus - and what it means for us now to be clothed in Christ and anointed by the Holy Spirit. Julie reminds us that ministry isn’t sustained by striving or performance, but by surrender and fellowship with God. It’s not about building something for Him in our own strength - it’s about abiding in Him. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Intro & recap 3:30 – Ministry in the Old Testament 5:16 – Foreshadowing the Messiah 6:30 – Ministry flows from grace 6:37 – The clothing of the priests 10:08 – Clothed in Christ 10:59 – Identity beyond works 11:45 – The anointing oil 14:38 – The anointing is a person 15:05 – 1 Corinthians 6:19 16:10 – Anointed by the Holy Spirit 16:43 – Sacrifices and offerings 19:50 – The sacrifice of the ram 21:00 – Surrender vs competition with God 21:12 – The ram of ordination 22:26 – The wave offering & fellowship 23:40 – Ministry sustained in God 25:41 – Connection over exhaustion 26:03 – Sanctification and depth 28:40 – Let Jesus change you 30:15 – Conclusion (Exodus 29) 32:00 – Reconciliation of God and man Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this second takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace continues her four-part teaching series - this time exploring the method behind how we serve God. Following on from 'Motivation', this episode shifts the focus from why we serve to how we serve - and it might not look the way you expect. This episode gently challenges the way we view our gifts, reminding us that God is intimately acquainted with all we carry - and He delights in using it for His glory. With encouragement to stay faithful in the unseen and a call to fix our eyes on Jesus, Julie invites you into a deeper, freer way of serving - led and empowered by the Holy Spirit. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Intro & recap 2:47 – The method we use to serve God 3:32 – The Holy Spirit: Old Testament vs after Pentecost 4:55 – Spirit-filled craftsmen in Exodus 8:10 – God as the master artisan 9:39 – Building the tabernacle 11:48 – Separating “God things” vs “human things” 12:45 – God knows all your skills 16:39 – 1 Corinthians 12:4–11 18:23 – Women empowered in the New Testament 22:35 – Faithfulness in what’s in your hands 25:40 – Robert Chapman 27:46 – Serving beyond recognition 31:50 – Luke 16:10 34:00 – Fix your eyes on Jesus Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this special takeover episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa hands the mic over to Julie Colbeth from Whispers of Grace for the first of a four-part teaching series - and it couldn’t come at a better time. As Christa takes a break over the school holidays, Julie brings a rich and grounding message on motivation - the heart behind why we serve. Looking at the lives of Abraham, Joseph, Moses, and the Israelites, Julie reminds us that we are all called and equipped by God for His purposes. But beyond what we do, this episode gently challenges us to consider why we do it. Is our service driven by pressure, performance, or comparison… or by love, gratitude, and a desire to honour God? With honesty and biblical truth, Julie speaks into the everyday - from serving in church to serving our children - pointing us back to this powerful reminder: our worth isn’t found in how well we perform, but in what Christ has already done. This episode is an invitation to pause, reflect, and realign your heart - to serve not out of striving, but from a place of grace. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. Click here to check out Julie's podcast, Whispers of Grace. 0:00 – I have a confession 0:33 – Whispers of Grace takeover 1:54 – Julie introduces the series 2:31 – Calling, purpose, and the series focus 3:48 – Biblical examples: Abraham, Joseph, Moses, the Israelites 6:49 – Called and gifted for service 9:38 – God has equipped you 13:45 – Your worth rests in Christ 16:35 – What is your motivation? 21:31 – Serving your children as serving God 23:21 – Generosity in service 25:25 – Partnering with God 26:55 – Reflecting on your motivation 28:06 – The Israelites and giving 30:07 – The church as a team 31:58 – Fix your eyes on Jesus 32:54 – 1 Peter 4:10–11 Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on the resurrection of Jesus and some of the powerful moments that happened straight after it. From Mary Magdalene being the first to see the risen Lord to why Thomas is often labelled “the doubter”, this conversation gently explores what faith really looks like - especially when questions and doubts are part of the journey. They also talk about the incredible way God ordained events throughout the Bible, how faith and intellect don’t have to be in conflict, and why the resurrection still matters deeply today. Whether you come to faith through your heart, your questions, or both, this episode is a reminder that Jesus meets us exactly where we are. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Coming up 0:40 – Welcome 1:42 – The resurrection of Jesus 2:25 – Why did Jesus rise? 4:40 – God’s plan and biblical prophecy 5:35 – Science and the Bible 6:30 – Faith and intellect 8:22 – Why Mary saw Jesus first 13:56 – Should we call Thomas “the doubter”? 17:52 – Faith through the heart or the mind 23:40 – Bible verse: The true vine Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura sit down to talk about Easter - the beauty of it, the weight of it, and the suffering of Jesus at the centre of it all. From Good Friday to the reality of what crucifixion actually involved, they reflect on what Jesus willingly endured and why it matters so deeply for us today. Along the way they talk about the meaning of the blood of Jesus, the striking reminder that we are Barabbas, and how our constant rebellion and failing keep pointing us back to our need for Him. With reflections from Scripture, C.S. Lewis, and Charles Spurgeon, the conversation moves between thoughtful, honest, and hopeful - remembering that the whole world still revolves around Jesus. If Easter has ever felt familiar or routine, this episode is an invitation to pause, look again at the cross, and be reminded just how extraordinary it really is. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Coming up 0:40 – Welcome 1:18 – Holy Week 5:52 – What happened to Jesus on Good Friday? 11:38 – The blood of Jesus 15:28 – We are Barabbas 17:55 – Our constant failing is a reminder of our need of Jesus 20:16 – What happens at crucifixion 22:07 – Jesus submitted to His suffering 23:59 – The wrath of God was poured out on Jesus 27:40 – C.S. Lewis quotes 28:56 – The world still revolves around Jesus 31:22 – Easter talk and traditions 33:52 – Inspiration from Charles Spurgeon 35:53 – Final thoughts Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Christa and Laura reflect on Part 2 of Stacy’s testimony and the deeper conversations that came out of it. From Laura’s honest postpartum journey to the difference between real wisdom and superficial advice, this episode moves gently through some of the harder but important truths that often don’t get spoken about. Together, they talk about the value of children, what it means to carry pain while still recognising God’s blessing, and why true justice isn’t always what the world thinks it should be. The conversation then turns to the cross - and the powerful reminder that Jesus took the punishment we deserved so that mercy could be offered instead. Honest, reflective, and deeply hope-filled, this episode invites you to pause, think deeply, and remember where true justice and true hope are ultimately found ✝️ Click here to watch the episode on YouTube. 0:30 – Intro 1:00 – Recap on Part 2 1:34 – Laura’s initial reactions 2:11 – Laura’s postpartum journey 2:56 – Honest vs superficial advice 7:35 – Children are a blessing 12:29 – Being a grandparent or parent without actually having children 14:56 – Justice belongs to God 17:49 – Earthly justice vs eternal justice 19:17 – 40 lashes or 5 years in prison? 23:12 – Jesus took lashes and death for us Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In Part 2 of Stacy’s story, the conversation takes an unexpected turn. What began as a story of teenage pregnancy and abortion becomes a powerful testimony of God’s grace, redemption, and healing. Stacy shares how, now married with 3 children, she unexpectedly fell pregnant again - but this time, everything was different. She then looks back and shares about coming to Christ, only to learn just months later about the shocking child abuse carried out by her partner. In the midst of heartbreak and deep brokenness, and through the faithful discipleship of others who walked her through the Word of God, Stacy began to truly understand God’s love and forgiveness in a way she never had before. She also shares the moment she truly felt restored. This episode is raw, emotional, and deeply hopeful. I hope it blesses you 💛 Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 - Coming up 1:13 - Unexpected pregnancy 2:17 - A gift from God 7:19 - Stacy coming to faith in Christ 15:51 - Shocking child abuse 32:25 - Pregnancy after abortion 33:55 - ‘Wanted’ vs ‘unwanted’ pregnancies 37:20 - Stacy begins to truly understand God’s love and forgiveness 42:32 - Stacy’s message to post-abortive women 45:05 - How does Stacy live her faith outside of Sunday? Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I open the conversation around abortion, culture, and what it means to respond as Christians. Reflecting on Stacy's story, we explore the deeper cultural shifts shaping today’s views on pregnancy and abortion, from ancient pagan practices to modern parallels. We share sobering statistics, highlight encouraging pro-life advocacy, and gently unpack what a truly Christ-centred response should look like. This episode also speaks directly to post-abortive women with a message of grace, and reminds us of the importance of creating a culture where choosing life is genuinely supported. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.  0:00 - Coming up 1:50 - What is the Outsider Club about 2:55 - Recap 5:58 - Bravery to share 7:15 - Laura’s teen rebellion 11:20 - Pro-life background of the podcast 13:30 - Abortion declining in one Rotorua city 15:52 - How was teen pregnancy handled in pagan societies? 17:19 - Our culture has returned to paganism 18:50 - Message to post-abortive women 24:22 - Disturbing statistics 26:51 - What is the Christian response to abortion 30:07 - Amazing pro-life advocates 32:31 - 'The Night Agent' is Pro Life? 34:28 - Supporting women in crisis pregnancy 38:58 - Pro-life people and organisations to follow 42:42 - Coming up next week 43:45 - Support is not coercion Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Stacy to hear her story. In Part 1, Stacy shares what it was like growing up with drug-dealing parents - but still in a loving home. Despite that, her teenage years quickly spiralled into rebellion. At just fifteen, she found herself pregnant and facing a decision she never imagined she would have to make. Stacy talks about telling her parents, seeing her baby on the ultrasound, and the circumstances that led her to believe abortion was her only option. Fast forward to recent years, when Stacy - now grown, married, and a Mum of four - was unexpectedly present at a family member’s abortion, revisiting the trauma she experienced at 15 and witnessing the heartbreaking reality of abortion again. It’s an honest and deeply personal conversation about the weight of decisions and the lasting impact they can have on a life. In Part 2 next week, Stacy shares what happened years later when she unexpectedly found herself pregnant again — and how that second moment unfolded very differently. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 2:00 - About Stacy 3:19 - Upbringing 5:45 - Drug Dealer Parents 9:55 - Beginning of rebellious years 9:36 - Stacy’s background in Christianity 14:18 - Difficult start in Rotorua 20:50 - Getting suspended from High School 23:09 - Pregnant at 15 30:57 – Telling her parents 32:49 – Deciding that she wouldn’t have her baby 37:41 – Seeing her baby at the ultrasound 41:11 – Would support have made a difference? 47:07 – The abortion 49:53 – Taking the baby home 55:40 – Being present at a family members abortion Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this Insights episode of Outside of Sunday, Laura and I continue our conversation following our recent episode with Julia, reflecting on what it actually looks like to read the Bible consistently in real life. We talk about reading the Bible from beginning to end, what our own Bible reading rhythms look like, and how we make space for it in the middle of busy family life. Along the way, we also unpack the pressure that can sometimes creep in through comparison - especially with “Instagram Christians” - and why they shouldn’t be our benchmark for spiritual faithfulness. We also tackle some really practical questions: what to do if your husband isn’t keen on family Bible reading, whether listening to the Bible counts the same as reading it, and how to deal with guilt or discouragement when we miss our Bible reading goals. This conversation is a gentle reminder that the Bible was never meant to feel like a heavy obligation. It’s a gift from God that helps us know Him more deeply - and it will guide and grow us as we faithfully keep coming back to it. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. 0:00 – Coming Up 1:03 – Recap on Episode with Julia 2:00 – 9 Months of Reading the Bible 2:29 – Reading the Bible from Beginning to End 5:50 – Making Time to Read the Bible 9:13 – Instagram Christians Aren’t Our Role Models 10:38 – What Does Christa and Laura’s Bible Reading Look Like? 18:11 – What to Do if Your Husband Isn’t Keen on Bible Reading as a Family 21:10 – Listening to the Bible vs Reading the Bible 23:20 – Guilt and Discouragement Over Missing Bible Reading 27:12 – The Full Counsel of God 28:13 – The Bible Is Not an End in Itself 30:08 – Why Is History Important? 31:00 – Asking God to Help Us Read the Bible 32:00 – Tips and Encouragement Around Reading the Bible Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this episode of Outside of Sunday, I sit down with Julia to hear her story of moving from Switzerland to New Zealand and pursuing deeper biblical training through YWAM. We talk about her time at the Discipleship Training School and the School of Biblical Studies, and why learning to read the Bible in its historical and cultural context can completely change the way we understand God’s word. Julia also shares the three core principles of the inductive Bible study method, why the Bible ultimately points to God rather than ourselves, and why slowing down in Scripture can help us better hear from the Holy Spirit. Julia also opens up about her personal testimony and what Christianity looks like in Switzerland today. We talk about growing anti-Christian sentiment, whether our culture is becoming post-Christian or pre-Christian, and how trials can reveal new depths of God’s character.  Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.  0:00 – Coming up 0:40 – Welcome and introducing Julia 1:31 – Coming to New Zealand from Switzerland 2:35 – About YWAM and Julia’s DTS 3:19 – About the School of Biblical Studies 7:55 – The importance of knowing the Word 10:30 – The Bible is not about you 10:58 – When was the Bible written? 12:19 – Understanding the culture when the Bible was written 14:35 – The three core principles of the inductive method for Bible study 20:08 – Distractions keeping us from the Word 23:15 – Giving yourself time to hear from the Holy Spirit 25:05 – Slowing down your Bible reading 26:45 – Julia’s Bible reading tips 33:01 – Julia’s testimony 33:47 – The role of Julia’s parents in her salvation 35:55 – Christianity in Switzerland 38:45 – Anti-Christian sentiment 40:35 – Division and curiosity 42:35 – Are we in a post-Christian or pre-Christian age? 45:35 – Maturing in Julia’s walk with the Lord 46:45 – Trials reveal God in a new way 57:01 – In our weakness He is strong 58:40 – YWAM outreach highlights 1:05:55 – How does Julia live her faith outside of Sunday? Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media. 

In this Outside of Sunday Christa and Laura reflect on Therina Oliver’s powerful testimony of walking through breast cancer, and then Leukaemia with her son. They unpack how Therina’s own suffering became a profound way God prepared Matthew for his journey. Delving into thoughts around Jesus keeping His scars Along the way, Christa and Laura also touch on marriage drifting into “flat-mate zone”, learning to pray for God’s will, and what it means to be moulded in God’s hands when the outcome is unknown. This is an honest, hope-filled reflection on trusting the God who chose to step into poverty, pain and brokenness for us and who continues to meet us right in the middle of ours. Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.  0:00 – Intro 0:44 – Welcome 1:19 – Recap on Therina’s testimony 2:27 – You don’t know what someone might be going through 5:07 – ‘Faith’ talk vs biblical truth 10:19 – God using Therina’s experiences and scars to walk Matthew through his ordeal 12:08 – Jesus kept His scars 16:18 – Only one person chose to be born into poverty, abuse, etc — Jesus 18:29 – Becoming ‘flat mates’ in marriage 19:35 – Getting out of the ‘flat mate’ zone 26:29 – Praying for God’s will 27:55 – Being moulded in God’s hands Support the show Outside of Sunday is part of the Outsider Network and is made with the help of Inspirational Media.