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It did not happen all at once. There was no siren moment, no dramatic escalation, no declaration that something terrible had occurred. The transition from concern to action came through a phone call, logged like thousands of others, handled by a department accustomed to uncertainty and delay. The intake process required structure. A deputy recorded biographical details. Ages. Vehicles. Occupations. Known habits. There were questions designed to determine urgency: any history of violence, any threats, any medical conditions, any known disputes. The answers, as given, did not demand escalation. There was no immediate evidence of danger. No broken windows. No frantic voicemail. No witness claiming distress. What existed was absence. Absence is difficult to categorize.  But the McStays were missing... Sources:  https://coronadotimes.com/event/down-to-the-bone-caitlin-rother-and-the-mcstay-family-murders/ https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/judge-unseals-court-records-in-mcstay-murder-case/509-5297be95-2f41-4ce7-931e-8c3dc98e0918 https://allthatsinteresting.com/mcstay-family-murders https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/missing-mcstay-family-cross-mexico/story?id=10042816 https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/mcstay-family-murder-trial-charles-merritt-closing-arguments-jury/159073/ https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mcstay-family-deaths-20190120-story.html https://www.sbsun.com/2019/03/11/key-prosecution-evidence-flopped-in-mcstay-family-murder-case-defense-contends/ https://www.sbsun.com/2019/03/11/key-prosecution-evidence-flopped-in-mcstay-family-murder-case-defense-contends/ Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

The 3400 block of Avocado Vista Lane, Fallbrook, California. The street ends in a cul-de-sac and the houses face the curve. The McStay house sits on that turn. Two stories. Light tan stucco. A white two-car garage door dominating the front, clean enough to catch the daylight when the sun hits it. Above the garage, a tall arched window rises into the second floor. Off to the side, another upstairs window is framed by dark shutters. The front door sits recessed on the right beneath a small covered porch, set back from the driveway and partly hidden by the angle of the front wall. A concrete driveway slopes up to the garage. A concrete walkway runs from the driveway to the porch. The lawn is green and trimmed. A slender pale-barked tree stands near the walkway. Low plants sit along the base of the porch.  From the exterior it's an idyllic Southern California home; inside an idyllic Southern California family...WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM? Sources:  https://coronadotimes.com/event/down-to-the-bone-caitlin-rother-and-the-mcstay-family-murders/ https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/judge-unseals-court-records-in-mcstay-murder-case/509-5297be95-2f41-4ce7-931e-8c3dc98e0918 https://allthatsinteresting.com/mcstay-family-murders https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/missing-mcstay-family-cross-mexico/story?id=10042816 https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/mcstay-family-murder-trial-charles-merritt-closing-arguments-jury/159073/ https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mcstay-family-deaths-20190120-story.html https://www.sbsun.com/2019/03/11/key-prosecution-evidence-flopped-in-mcstay-family-murder-case-defense-contends/ https://www.sbsun.com/2019/03/11/key-prosecution-evidence-flopped-in-mcstay-family-murder-case-defense-contends/ Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

After half a century of mystery, The "Lady of the Dunes," was finally identified as Ruth Marie Terry. Kinda Murdery explores the tragic arc of Ruth's life and the sordid, morally bankrupt career of her probable murderer - who once lived, and may have killed in The Emerald Triangle... Sources: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lady-of-the-Dunes-identified-nearly-50-years-17546994.php https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/lady-of-the-dunes-family-history-17552900.php https://www.masslive.com/news/2022/11/lady-of-the-dunes-husband-suspected-of-1960-double-murder-in-seattle.html https://www.vice.com/en/article/qvmez7/jaws-lady-of-the-dunes-theory-unsolved-murder-cape-cod-vgtrn https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/11/after-nearly-50-years-fbi-identifies-lady-of-the-dunes-murder-victim/ https://kymkemp.com/2022/01/01/72-years-ago-two-humboldt-county-lovers-went-out-for-a-date-one-was-found-shot-dead-and-the-other-never-seen-again/ https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nearly-50-years-after-murder-the-lady-of-the-dunes-is-identified/#:~:text=O'Keefe%20said%20there%20was,to%20conduct%20her%20own%20investigation. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

In 1922, Twenty-two year old Chicago bond trader Harvey Church had a hankering for a particular automobile. Sometimes Hell is unleashed in the most unexpected places. How could Harvey know that his desire for a dream car would lead to a surprising mystery drenched in blood and murder? Find out, only on Kinda Murdery... Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

At least three murders, and four husbands, ALL of whom committed suicide. Louise Peete's single-minded self-interest gradually evolved into a 40-year reign of terror. Find out how California's famed, "Black Widow," finally made one too many mistakes... Sources: https://crimescribe.com/2021/04/11/on-this-day-in-1947-louise-peete-the-belle-of-bienville/ https://murderpedia.org/female.P/p/peete-louise.htm https://michaelthomasbarry.com/2014/04/11/the-black-widow-louise-peete-was-executed-1947/ As well as primary sourced newspaper articles from www.newspapers.com Buy Robert Walsh's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Murders-Mysteries-Misdemeanors-Southern-California/dp/1634993241 Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

The seemingly-happy O'Byan family lived In Deer Park, Texas, in the 1970's. However, beneath the facade of suburban normalcy lurked the strain of desperate financial woes. Mr. O'Bryan's mountain of debt was so ovewhelming that it became a recurring topic of conversation among his circle of friends and acquaintances. In the summer of 1974, he alluded to an upcoming windfall, telling some people that he expected to come into a sum of money by the year's end. Given the tragedy that followed, his statements now hang in the air, fraught with chilling implications... Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Corll https://mysteriesandmurder.wordpress.com/2020/11/01/the-man-who-killed-halloween/ https://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Man-Who-Ruined-Halloween-Recounting-the-14663666.php https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1793039/obryan-v-state/?q=ronald%20clark https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/the-man-who-killed-halloween https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Clark_O%27Bryan Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

In 1966, Blanche's Kiser's father, Parker Davis Kiser Sr., passed away. His death was attributed to heart disease at the age of 62. Tragedy struck again in 1973, seven years following her father's death, Blanche discovered her husband, James Taylor, lifeless in their bed. At just 45 years old, he was pronounced dead, with a heart attack cited as the cause. The specter of heart disease seemed to loom over the men in Blanche's life. As our Kinda Murdery story unfolds, the circumstances surrounding these deaths beckon for a closer look, hinting at a deeper, perhaps darker, narrative playing out beneath the surface of Blanche Taylor's seemingly ordinary existence... CALL 888-MURDERY, that's, 888-687-3379, to share YOUR Kinda Murdery story or your story of living with a disability or other challenges, and you could inspire an episode of the show! Sources: https://www.oxygen.com/snapped/crime-news/blanche-taylor-moore-poisoning-deaths-death-row https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-08-22-vw-1071-story.html https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-oldest-women-on-death-row-is-90-4c67c8c1c874 https://www.wbtw.com/news/state-regional-news/turning-90-north-carolinas-blanche-moore-is-oldest-woman-on-death-row-in-us/ Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

In 1990, based on circumstantial evidence alone, Jonathan Fleming was convicted of the murder of Darryl Rush and sentenced to 25 years to life despite having what Brooklyn prosecuting A.D.A. James Leeper called, "a perfect alibi." Twenty-four years later, it would be discovered that Leeper had withheld crucial evidence from the defense, and Fleming wasn't his only victim...Just what the hell was going on in Brooklyn? Sources: https://www.propublica.org/article/for-a-respected-prosecutor-an-unpardonable-failure https://nypost.com/2015/07/07/exonerated-convict-hasnt-seen-a-dime-of-his-6m-settlement/ https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/10/nyregion/ken-thompson-brooklyns-first-black-district-attorney-dies-at-50.html https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/brooklyn-da-hopefuls-return-funds-questionable-donors-article-1.3343542 Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

Frank Lindsay was a Seattle-based wife killer. He was also a fry cook, and it was the fry cooking that got him caught for murder. But it also lead to his prison escape... Legendary artist, and frequent co-host, Anson Maddocks, joins Zevon to tell his own Seattle Kinda Murdery story featuring his very good friend, and fellow Magic the Gathering legend, Mark Tedin. After spending the day together at a coffe shop drawing the iconic cards for Limited Edition Alpha, Anson and Mark hit the town, only to discover...a dead body... Find and purchase Anson's art at https://ansonmaddocks.com/ CALL 888-MURDERY that's 888-687-3379 to share YOUR Kinda Murdery story and inspire an episode of the show! If you like the show, please leave us a 5 star review wherever you listen. Thank you! Sources: https://www.onbunkerhill.org/frycookkiller/ https://www.discovery.com/exploration/Cecil-Hotel-LA-Haunted-Reasons https://allthatsinteresting.com/cecil-hotel-los-angeles Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

On a crisp October afternoon in 1925, local auburn-haired knockout, and Ferndale beauty shop owner, Carmen Wagner left on a hunting trip to the nearby mountains with her fiancée, Henry Sweet. Neither Carmen, nor Henry, would ever be seen alive again. And Henry didn't do it. Find out who did on, "Who Killed Carmen Wagner?" Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

San Francisco, CA. - 1895: Blanche Lamont, a member of the First Emanuel Baptist Church mysteriously disappears. Then, before the the mystery of Blanche's disapperance can be solved, horrified parishoners find the mutilated body of Blanche's best friend, Minnie Williams. Blanche died first, but was discovered second, Her body had been horribly disfigured and shoved up inside First Emanuel Baptist's church steeple, where it was eventually found. Both Minnie and Blanche had been sexually assaulted. These horrible killings were dubbed, "The Steeple Murders," and suspicion quicky centered on a young medical student, and ardent church-goer, named Theodore Durrant. But Durrant was handsome, charming, pious, and well-liked, from a good family, with no hint of violence or criminal activity either in his past, or in his social circle. He seemed an unlikely choice for, "The Demon of the Belfry," San Francisco's own Jack Ripper...But was he?  Find out on this episode of Kinda Murdery! Sources: https://archive.org/details/true-detective-feb-1929 https://www.historicalcrimedetective.com/killer-theodore-durrant/ https://the-line-up.com/theo-durrant-the-demon-of-belfry https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Theodore-Durrant-Demon-of-the-Belfry-SF-murders-10418597.php Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

On February 1st, 1893, an African-American teen named John Howling, walking to work in the morning, spotted a young girl, lying in the grass on the side of the road to Fort Thomas Kentucky. At first, John thought she might be sleeping, or worse, taken by the late-winter cold and freezing (or already frozen.) Howling approached and laid a hand gently on the girls shoulder to awaken her. Suddenly, Howling was howling. He let out a blood curdling scream. The girl was headless. John didn't know it yet, but he had discovered the body of beloved Greencastle, Indiana socialite, Pearl Bryan. She was obviously dead, but why had the killer decapitated her, and where was Pearl's head now? Find out on the latest episode of Kinda Murdery! Call the Kinda Murdery toll-free hotline: 888-MURDERY (888-687-3379) to share your Kinda Murdery story! Sources: https://ia601502.us.archive.org/9/items/true-detective-march-1929/TrueDetectiveMarch1929.pdf https://www.nkytribune.com/2020/08/our-rich-history-shoe-dealer-solves-ghastly-murder-of-pearl-bryan-found-missing-her-head-in-1893/ Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

The murder of Patrolman Masterson started out a a commonplace peak-easy stick-up in which a police officer and a girl were wounded, at 2 :55am on the morning of January 31st, 1927, in New York City. Masterson died on the evening of the same and was buried with full departmental honors three days later. But it was anything but commonplace. In fact, an accidentally overheard conversation leading up the shooting, caused one poor man to go insane... CALL 888-MURDERY 888-687-3379 to tell YOUR Kinda Murdery story and inspire and episode of the show! Sources: https://archive.org/details/TrueDetectiveFeb1930/page/n27/mode/2up Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

An American golden boy. He was born in 1947, the early years of the baby boom, he was an honor student, an athlete and a student council member. But, somewhere along the way, things went sideways and by 2007, at age 60, Verle Dills became internationally famous as the man who spent years videotaping himself humping street signs - which sounds like an internet punchline, but the truth is much darker than that...What went so horribly wrong? EXCITING NEWS: THE KINDA MURDERY HOTLINE: (888) MURDERY that's (888) 687-3379 is LIVE! Sources: https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/bubba-humps#lightbox-popup-1 https://www.cracked.com/pictofacts-278-21-insane-true-sex-stories-you-thought-were-urban-legends https://jalopnik.com/south-dakota-man-arrested-for-sex-with-street-signs-285080 https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/services/publications/fhwaop02084/index.htm Various articles from www.newspapers.com search term: "Verle Dills" Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.

Anson Maddocks returns to discuss the case of Samuel Little, the "Choke & Stroke" killer - the most prolific serial murderer in United States History. Little was convicted of killing four women, but then confessed to 89 more murders. He used his photographic memory to paint his vicims, and helped the authorities close 60 (yes, SIXTY!!!) Jane Doe murder cases before he died in 2020. If you'd like to hear more about Little, as well as Anson's opinion of a serial killer's artistic ability, and a story about eight-year-old Mark Tedin, then this is the Kinda Murdery episode for you... Explore the art of Anson Maddocks: https://ansonmaddocks.com/ Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/us/samuel-little-dead.html https://www.dps.texas.gov/news/new-details-released-unsolved-samuel-little-murders https://www.insider.com/samuel-little-fbi-most-prolific-serial-killer-us-history-2019-10 https://www.insider.com/samuel-little-portraits-victims-paint-drawings-2019-10#:~:text=America's%20most%20prolific%20serial%20killer%2C%20Samuel%20Little%2C%20has%20been%20helping,victims%20by%20painting%20their%20portraits. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kinda-murdery--5496890/support.