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In which Beth Gardiner and Felicia have a conversation about Beth’s recent book, Plastic Inc.  In particular, we discussed health effects of microplastics and endocrine disrupters, the burgeoning of single-use plastics driven by the plastic industry, and the industry’s shocking campaign to put the responsibility for plastic waste on consumers and municipalities. We also discuss possible solutions, including bottle, bag, and tire deposit laws, the California law called Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR), and the use of renewable feedstocks to supplant petroleum feedstocks. Gardiner, B. (2026) Plastic Inc. : the secret history and shocking future of Big Oil's biggest bet, New York, NY : Avery, an imprint of Penguin Random House, New York (State), United States.

In which Felicia explains the many sources, the chemistry, and the toxicity of sulfites and sulfates. Sulfites are widespread in food, both processed and natural. They have been strongly linked to inflammatory bowel diseases by gut bacteria that use sulfate as an energy source. Sulfates are found in many personal care and household cleaning products. Felicia offers many suggestions on how to avoid sulfites and sulfates. It’s good for you and for the environment. Sources Deng, K., Wang, L., Nguyen, S. M., Shrubsole, M. J., Cai, Q., Lipworth, L., Gupta, D. K., Zheng, W., Shu, X.-O., and Yu, D. (2025) A dietary pattern promoting gut sulfur metabolism is associated with increased mortality and altered circulating metabolites in low-income American adults, eBioMedicine 115.10.1016/j.ebiom.2025.105690: 10.1016/j.ebiom.2025.105690 Dordevic, D., Capikova, J., Dordevic, S., Tremlová, B., Gajdács, M., and Kushkevych, I. (2023) Sulfur content in foods and beverages and its role in human and animal metabolism: A scoping review of recent studies, Heliyon9.10.1016/j.heliyon.2023.e15452: 10.1016/j.heliyon.2023.e15452 Owczarek, D., Rodacki, T., Domagała-Rodacka, R., Cibor, D., and Mach, T. (2016) Diet and nutritional factors in inflammatory bowel diseases, World Journal of Gastroenterology 22, 895-905.10.3748/wjg.v22.i3.895: 10.3748/wjg.v22.i3.895 Pfau, A., López-Cayuqueo, K. I., Scherer, N., Wuttke, M., Wernstedt, A., González Fassrainer, D., Smith, D. E. C., van de Kamp, J. M., Ziegeler, K., Eckardt, K.-U., Luft, F. C., Aronson, P. S., Köttgen, A., Jentsch, T. J., and Knauf, F. (2023) SLC26A1 is a major determinant of sulfate homeostasis in humans, The Journal of Clinical Investigation 133.10.1172/JCI161849: 10.1172/JCI161849

In which Felicia interviews Michiel Brouns of Brouns & Co., who got his start in restoring historical buildings. We talk all about the sustainability of all-natural boiled linseed oil paint: how it polymerizes, that it is derived from flax seeds, and how it is biodegradable in the environment, so it makes no toxic microplastics. The paint requires nothing to dilute it, no solvents, so it contains only trace natural volatile organic compounds (VOCs). The pigments are non-toxic minerals, oxides like iron and zinc. Even though the cost is higher per can of paint, you apply it in very thin coats and it soaks into the wood, protecting it for the long term, without trapping moisture that causes wood to rot when painted with modern synthetic polymer paint. Linseed paint has protected buildings for thousands of years, so it is really quite inexpensive in the long run. Host–Felicia Etzkorn, Professor Emerita of Chemistry at Virginia Tech, with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. References: Linseed Paint &Oil – A Practical Guide to the Traditional Production and Application by Michiel Brouns, The Crowood Press © Michiel Brouns 2023 Brouns & Co. linseed oil paint, putty, etc: https://linseedpaint.com/ Le Tonkinois linseed oil marine varnish: https://www.le-tonkinois.com/home-en.html

In which Felicia explains the sustainability of some toothpaste ingredients. This is a partial list of ingredients, based mainly on two tubes of toothpaste in her bathroom, Sensodyne Pronamel Multi-Action and Burt's Bees Complete Multi-Care. The ingredients are classified by the function they serve in toothpaste: 1) active ingredients, 2) sticky stuff, 3) surfactants (detergents), 4) sweeteners, 5) whiteners, 6) minerals, and 7) flavors. Sources include: Wikipedia PubChem Sampaio, F.C.; Oliveira, A.F.B.d.; Fernandes, N.L.S.; Gentile, A.C.C.; Marinho, G.B.; B.necker, M.J.S.; Paschoal, M.A.B.; D’Alpino, P.H.P.; Vilhena, F.V. Silicon-, Silica-, and Silicate-Toothpastes for Remineralization and Repair of Teeth: A Scoping Review. Oral 2024, 4, 467–486. https://doi.org/10.3390/oral4040038  Kim, D., Seok, J.K., Kim, M. et al. Safety assessment of cocamidopropyl betaine, a cosmetic ingredient. Toxicol Res. 40, 361–375 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s43188-024-00243-2 Rayssa Ferreira Zanatta, Daniele Mara da Silva Ávila, Karen Mayumi Miyamoto, Carlos Rocha Gomes Torres, Alessandra Bühler Borges; Influence of Surfactants and Fluoride against Enamel Erosion. Caries Res 11 January 2019; 53 (1): 1–9. https://doi.org/10.1159/000488207 Lai, C.; Nguyen, A.; Ye, L.; Hao, J.; Koo, H.; Mante, F.; Ozer, F. Antibacterial and Physical Properties of PVM/MA Copolymer- Incorporated Polymethyl Methacrylate as a Novel Antimicrobial Acrylic Resin Material. Molecules 2022, 27, 8848. https://doi.org/10.3390/molecules27248848  Söderling, E., Pienihäkkinen, K. Specific effects of xylitol chewing gum on mutans streptococci levels, plaque accumulation and caries occurrence: a systematic review.BMC Oral Health 25, 1275 (2025). https://doi.org/10.1186/s12903-025-06602-1  Boerner, L.K. What is dental enamel, and how does it protect your teeth? Chem Eng News Oct 19, 2020

In which Felicia describes the materials choices for her kitchen remodel, and her guest, Helene Renard, Professor of Interior Design in the School of Architecture + Design at Virginia Tech, describes the “Healthier Materials and Sustainable Building” course she took with the Healthy Materials Lab at the Parsons School of Design. Host–Felicia Etzkorn of Virginia Tech, with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. Green Kitchen Remodel: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/e8tg8v/Green_Kitchen_Lecture_2015am1wy.pdf Course: https://healthymaterialslab.org/learning-hub/e-learning-online-certificate-program Healthy Materials Lab: https://healthymaterialslab.org/about/team https://healthymaterialslab.org/

In which we discuss per- and poly-fluoroalkylsubstances (PFAS) with Carol Kwiatkowski of the Green Science Policy Institute (https://greensciencepolicy.org), their properties, function, consumer products, toxicity, persistence, chemical analysis, and regulation both in the US and EU. Some companies, like Keen, are eliminating PFAS from their products. We then discuss a few green substitutes, including Solberg Co.'s firefighting foam, a fatty acid coated cellulose, and iron skillets. Host–Felicia Etzkorn of Virginia Tech, co-host–Jamie Ferguson of Emory & Henry College, with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. PFAS review: Kwiatkowski, C. F.; Andrews, D. Q.; Birnbaum, L. S.; Bruton, T. A.; DeWitt, J. C.; Knappe, D. R. U.; Maffini, M. V.; Miller, M. F.; Pelch, K. E.; Reade, A.; Soehl, A.; Trier, X.; Venier, M.; Wagner, C. C.; Wang, Z.; Blum, A., Scientific Basis for Managing PFAS as a Chemical Class. Env Sci & Tech Letters 2020, 7 (8), 532-543. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.estlett.0c00255 EPA Reassessment: https://cen.acs.org/environment/persistent-pollutants/US-EPA-deems-two-GenX-PFAS-chemicals-more-toxic-than-PFOA/99/web/2021/10?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=CEN Alternatives: https://pfascentral.org/pfas-free-products/ Keen PFAS-free: https://www.keenfootwear.com/conservation/blog-article-20390.html Solberg Co firefighting foam: https://www.perimeter-solutions.com/class-a-b-foam/ PFAS in cosmetics: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.estlett.1c00240 PFAS in fracking: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/12/climate/epa-pfas-fracking-forever-chemicals.html Dark Waters, Movie about PFAS in WV with Mark Ruffalo: https://www.yidio.com/movie/dark-waters/210401 Binding of PFOA to human serum albumin: Maso, L. et. al., Unveiling the binding mode of perfluorooctanoic acid to human serum albumin. Protein Sci 2021, 30 (4), 830-841.https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/pro.4036 Breaking down PFAS: Lockwood, D., Photocatalyst shreds drinking water contaminant PFOA. Chem & Eng News 2018, 96 (36). https://cen.acs.org/environment/persistent-pollutants/Photocatalyst-shreds-drinking-water-contaminant/96/i36 Vermont regulations passed: https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/554680-vermont-governor-signs-first-in-nation-restrictions-on

In which we discuss the recent development of a series of new blue pigments, the theft of catalytic converters for the rhodium, and the health effects of fracking chemicals. Hosted by Felicia Etzkorn of Virginia Tech, co-host Jamie Ferguson of Emory & Henry College, and music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. Blue pigments: https://chemistry.oregonstate.edu/content/story-yinmn-blue Catalytic converter theft: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129047092 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/catalytic-converter-theft-south-africa-rhodium/2021/03/03/dc288192-777d-11eb-9489-8f7dacd51e75_story.html Fracking chemicals: https://www.ehn.org/fractured-series-on-fracking-pollution-2650624600/fractured-fracking

In which we discuss the opportunities for substituting safer chemical alternatives for consumer products in current use with our guest, Joel Tickner of the University of Massachusetts, Lowell. We don’t need to wait for green chemistry to come up with great alternatives, many have already been designed. We need to collaborate with businesses to turn towards better alternatives, rather than imposing regulations away from the bad stuff, risking drop-in substitutions that are just as bad. Host–Felicia Etzkorn of Virginia Tech, co-host–Jamie Ferguson of Emory & Henry College, with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. Resources Joel A. Tickner, Rachel V. Simon, Molly Jacobs, Lindsey D. Pollard & Saskia K. van Bergen (2021) The nexus between alternatives assessment and green chemistry: supporting the development and adoption of safer chemicals, Green Chemistry Letters and Reviews, 14:1, 21-42, DOI: 10.1080/17518253.2020.1856427  https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17518253.2020.1856427 Tickner J, Jacobs MM, Mack NB (2019) Alternatives assessment and informed substitution: A global landscape assessment of drivers, methods, policies and needs. Sustainable Chemistry and Pharmacy 13:100161. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235255411930052X O'Brien M. 2000. Making Better Environmental Decisions: An Alternative to Risk Assessment, MIT Press Cambridge, MA. https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/making-better-environmental-decisions

In which we discuss sustainable, plant-based cleaning products, oxygen-bleached paper products, recyclable and recycled packaging, transparent labeling, and consumer education with Martin Wolf, Director of Sustainability & Authenticity at Seventh Generation. Host–Felicia Etzkorn of Virginia Tech, co-host–Jamie Ferguson of Emory & Henry College, with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. Great resource for sustainability and environmental justice issues: https://www.seventhgeneration.com/home

In which we discuss the uses of lead in gasoline (and the temporally and geographically associated violence), avgas, pipes, and car paint primer, and the greener replacements for these products—ethanol as replacement for tetraethyl lead as an anti-knock additive in gasoline, potential plastic replacements for lead pipes, and yttrium as a replacement for lead car primer.Host–Felicia Etzkorn of Virginia Tech, co-host–Jamie Ferguson of Emory & Henry College, with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. Abelsohn AR, Sanborn M (2010) Lead and Children, Canadian Family Physician 56:531. https://www.cfp.ca/content/56/6/531 EPA Final Revisions to the Lead and Copper Rule: https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/final-revisions-lead-and-copper-rule Angus Chen, Zapping Lead Pipes with Electricity Could Make Them Safer for Drinking Water, Scientific American, April 4, 2019. PPG Industries, Yttrium as a Lead Substitute in Cationic Electrodeposition Coatings, EPA  Green Chemistry Challenge Award 2001. https://www.epa.gov/greenchemistry/presidential-green-chemistry-challenge-2001-designing-greener-chemicals-award Grateful Dead, New Speedway Boogie excerpt, from What a Long Strange Trip It’s Been, 1977.

In which we interview Anthony Flaccavento, organic farmer, author, activist, and local politician, about his sustainable practices to incorporate carbon, nitrogen, and other essential elements back into the depleted soil of his former tobacco farm in southwest Virginia. No-till agriculture not only sequesters carbon and nitrogen in the soil, it balances soil water content in both drought and flood times. Host–Felicia Etzkorn of Virginia Tech, co-host–Jamie Ferguson of Emory & Henry College, with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. Resources Anthony Flaccavento Building a Healthy Economy from the Bottom Up: Harnessing Real World Experience for Transformative Change (University Press of Kentucky, 2016) https://www.kentuckypress.com/9780813167596/building-a-healthy-economy-from-the-bottom-up/ SCALE — Sequestering Carbon, Accelerating Local Economies https://www.anthonyflaccavento.com/scale-inc Savory Institute https://savory.global National Ecological Observatory Network https://www.neonscience.org How to Bury Carbon? Let Plants Do the Dirty Work in Nautilus http://cshl.nautil.us/article/657/how-to-bury-carbon-let-plants-do-the-dirty-work?mc_cid=5c3e66ab03&mc_eid=71fa1ec799 Crop innovations can protect yields and improve food quality in a changing climate https://cen.acs.org/food/agriculture/Protecting-harvest/98/i6 Climate Change Take 5 with Tony (S.2, Ep. 4) https://www.bottomupeconomy.org/climate-change-sustainable-farming/ Sustainable farming and social justice: Chris Newman of Sylvanaqua https://www.sylvanaqua.com Nina Ichikawa of the Berkeley Food Institute https://food.berkeley.edu Joel Salatin’s Unsustainable Myth: His go-it-alone message made him a star of the food movement. Then a young Black farmer dug into what he was really saying. https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/

In which we discuss the effect of synthetic nitrogen fertilizer on feeding the world, and the synthesis of ammonia from nitrogen in the air and hydrogen generated from methane, first by the Haber-Bosch process and then by electrochemical processes with our guest, Dr. Michael Stoukides from the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Greece. Electrodes, catalysts, yields, rates, and the potential for energy storage are discussed for the electrochemical synthesis of ammonia. Host Felicia Etzkorn of Virginia Tech, co-host Jamie Ferguson of Emory & Henry College, with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. Kyriakou V, Garagounis I, Vasileiou E, Vourros A, Stoukides M (2016) Progress in the Electrochemical Synthesis of Ammonia. Catalysis Today 286. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304537323_Progress_in_the_Electrochemical_Synthesis_of_Ammonia Kyriakou V, Garagounis I, Vourros A, Vasileiou E, Stoukides M (2019) An Electrochemical Haber-Bosch Process. Joule 4. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337041764_An_Electrochemical_Haber-Bosch_Process

In which we discuss the relative merits of burying, recycling, or composting plastic waste, in particular, packaging. We distinguish biodegradable from compostable. Jamie describes Eastman Chemical Co.’s new process to take any plastic and break them down into their small molecule components and resynthesize new plastics, a true recycling process. We decide burying plastics is not so bad because it keeps carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. Finally, we discuss the idea of geoengineering the atmosphere with sulfur dioxide to reflect sunlight back into space, which is terrible because sulfur dioxide becomes acid rain. Produced, edited and posted by Felicia Etzkorn, with co-host Jamie Ferguson. Music created and performed by Wendy Godley. Waste by Katie O'Neill:  https://earthbound.report/2019/08/19/book-review-waste-by-kate-oneill/ Eastman Unveils Recycling Solution to Combat Global Plastic Waste: https://www.waste360.com/plastics/eastman-unveils-recycling-solution-combat-global-plastic-waste

In which, with our guest, Dr. Arlene Blum (www.arleneblum.com) of the Green Science Policy Institute at the University of California, Berkeley, we discuss the toxicity of flame retardants in children’s products, furniture, and her success in changing the standards for these products so that flame retardants are unnecessary to prevent the most common smoldering fires. Flame retardants are still found in TVs. Then host Felicia Etzkorn and co-host Jamie Ferguson discuss a paper about the flammability of cotton and synthetic fabrics, including the limiting oxygen index (LOI), the heat release capacity (HRC), and the peak heat release rate (PHRR), as well as a potential less toxic flame retardant, sodium hypophosphite with succinic acid. Green Science Policy Institute: https://greensciencepolicy.org Six Classes Videos: https://www.sixclasses.org/videos Stapleton HM, Klosterhaus S, Keller A, Ferguson PL, van Bergen S, Cooper E, Webster TF, Blum A (2011) Identification of Flame Retardants in Polyurethane Foam Collected from Baby Products. Env. Sci. Tech.45:5323-5331. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/es2007462 Blum A, Gold MD, Ames BN, Jones FR, Hett EA, Dougherty RC, Horning EC, Dzidic I, Carroll DI, Stillwell RN, Thenot JP (1978) Children absorb tris-BP flame retardant from sleepwear: urine contains the mutagenic metabolite, 2,3-dibromopropanol. Science 201:1020. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/201/4360/1020.full.pdf Yang CQ, He Q, Lyon RE, Hu Y, Investigation of the flammability of different textile fabrics using micro-scale combustion calorimetry, Polym. Degrad. Stab. 95 (2010) 108e115. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0141391009004108 Post-note: N-methylol containing flame retardants like MDPA are associated with formaldehyde release. https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2017SRL....2450114Y/abstract

In which we discuss safer, more efficient, and better rechargeability batteries with two experts, Professors Feng Lin and Lou Madsen of Virginia Tech. We discuss the basics of how electricity and batteries work, the components of a battery, the problems of conventional nickel-cadmium and lead-acid batteries, and the advantages of lithium ion batteries. Feng Lin describes his recent work on oriented microparticles for lithium ion batteries that lead to faster recharging and longer lifetime. Lou Madsen explains his invention of a solid-state electrolyte for lithium ion batteries that is more durable and non-flammable. Hosted by Felicia Etzkorn (Virginia Tech) and Jamie Ferguson  (Emory & Henry College), with music by Wendy Godley of The Kind. Feng Lin’s paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-13884-x Lou Madsen’s paper: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/adma.201505183