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Evan comments on three “docket” stories: Tobey Maguire officiating his ex-wife’s wedding soon after divorce, the Oregon Supreme Court keeping Damian Lillard’s divorce records sealed and why confidentiality is easier outside litigation, and a UK case where hiding a prenup can damage credibility and trigger sanctions. In “Overrated/Underrated,” they discuss fighting over valuables (overrated), consulting a lawyer without telling a spouse (underrated), in-person lawyer visits (mostly overrated), movie theaters (underrated), and fireplaces (underrated). The main interview features Harvard Business School professor and behavioral scientist Leslie John on her book “Revealing: The Underrated Power of Oversharing,” arguing thoughtful self-disclosure builds trust, connection, leadership, and relationship health, with research on trust, brain reward, emotional suppression, parenting, social media, dating reciprocity, AI communication, and the value of sincere praise.   Get Leslie’s book: https://a.co/d/0b3Sw4T9   Topics   02:42 Docket Celebrity Wedding 07:00 Sealed Divorce Records 08:50 Hidden Prenup Fallout 11:37 Overrated Underrated Divorce 16:26 Overrated Underrated Life 23:23 Leslie John Origin Story 26:28 Trust and Disclosure Studies 32:55 Parenting and Emotions 35:09 Social Media and Authenticity 38:24 Regrets and Emotions Wheel 41:08 Emotional Literacy Basics 41:31 Oversharing as a Skill 42:06 Finding the TMI Line 45:11 Dating and Reciprocity Rules 46:51 Long Term Sharing Habits 49:32 Small Talk to Real Talk 51:09 Communication in Marriage 53:39 Be Yourself Bad Advice 54:29 AI as a Listener 59:02 Praise and Feedback Power 01:01:11 They Said It Rapid Fire 01:11:19 Wrap Up and Where to Find

Evan speaks with Dr. James Cordova, psychologist, couples researcher, and creator of the evidence-based Relationship Checkup, about practicing love through better communication and repair. They discuss modern marriage’s pressure to meet all needs without a “village,” why conflict is often mistakenly treated as winning instead of understanding, and how collaborating—both in marriage and in divorce—reduces harm, especially for children exposed to conflict. Cordova explains fighting better to fight less, the porcupine’s dilemma of inevitable emotional “quills,” and why forgiveness and apology require emotional skill beyond fight-or-flight instincts. He argues couples wait too long for therapy due to cultural stigma, limited training, cost, and access, and advocates preventive relationship healthcare via checkups before and during marriage. A simple daily intimacy practice is asking, “Tell me more,” to show attention and care.   Visit https://www.clarku.edu/faculty/profiles/james-cordova/   Topics 01:18 Tell Me More Mindset 02:47 Red Sox Apology Segment 05:06 Sports as Relationship Metaphor 07:26 Docket: Jelly Roll Divorce Stress 11:47 Overrated/Underrated  20:48 Meet Dr. James Cordova 21:39 Modern Marriage Needs a Village 30:03 Fight Better Not Harder 31:41 Forgiveness and Porcupines 35:19 Forgiveness Takes Effort 36:17 Fight or Flight Instincts 37:35 Why He Wrote the Book 40:47 Why Couples Wait Too Long 45:08 Relationship Checkup Model 48:44 Start Before Marriage 50:48 Hard Talks and Compatibility 57:58 Daily Intimacy Practice 59:42 Attention Versus Distraction 01:02:09 They Said It  01:08:24 Boundaries and Phone Privacy 01:10:59 Wrap Up and Where to Find Him

Evan interviews therapist and author Oona Metz about her book, ‘Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women’, focusing on divorce grief, stigma and shame (including for initiators), isolation, and the value of support groups and community. They question whether “until death do us part” sets unrealistic expectations, discuss equitable partnership and hard premarital conversations, and explore when post-divorce survival becomes transformation through letting go and emotional processing alongside the legal and financial process.   Oona’s book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Unhitched/Oona-Metz/9781668075388   Topics 00:19 Podcast Intro and Season Kickoff 01:01 July 4 Reflections and Knicks Hype 04:31 Fireworks Talk and Guest Tease 05:47 Fourth of July Playlist Draft 07:03 Music Memories Through Divorce 12:01 Summer Routines and Co-Parenting 14:35 Overrated Underrated Begins 15:03 Custody Flexibility and Real Life 16:50 Dating During Divorce Debate 18:21 Fun Picks Zoos and Delivery Apps 22:45 Fireworks Verdict and Wrap 24:04 Interview Starts Oona Metz 24:30 Grief for the Divorce Initiator 26:08 Redefining Marriage and Vows 31:26 Designing a Modern Marriage Contract 32:53 Hard Conversations Before Marriage 33:39 Stress Tests Before Marriage 36:12 Expectations and Relationship Myths 39:37 Why She Wrote Unhitched 42:20 Writing Lessons and Shame 45:24 Deciding Whether to Divorce 47:50 Isolation and Finding Community 55:50 From Surviving to Transformed 01:02:53 They Said It Quote Game 01:11:55 Final Wrap and Where to Buy

Evan opens episode 102 by discussing co-parenting logistics around summer camp during divorce, then introduces the episode’s focus on sleep and relationships with guest Dr. Wendy Troxel, a sleep scientist and clinical psychologist. On the docket, Evan argues most “blindside divorces” reflect long-standing issues, and he frames “pickleball divorce” as a relationship problem, not a sport problem. In overrated/underrated, Evan calls expert witnesses and early prenup discussions underrated, and labels the Stanley Cup and Costco parking lots overrated. Troxel explains sleep is a social behavior, addresses stigma around sleeping separately, outlines the bidirectional cycle between sleep loss and relationship conflict, and recommends communication strategies and a nightly phone-free ritual (high-low-compliment). She notes divorce can disrupt sleep architecture, prioritizing sleep regularity and support, and criticizes the term “sleep divorce,” citing data that 31% of couples sleep apart occasionally.   Topics 00:49 Summer Camp Co-Parenting 03:46 Sleep Episode Setup 04:55 Docket Blindside Divorce 07:17 Docket Pickleball Drama 10:43 Overrated Underrated Begins 10:59 Expert Witnesses Matter 12:51 Prenups Early Talk 14:19 Sports And Costco Rants 18:49 Sponsor Break 20:40 Interview Dr Wendy Troxel 23:12 Social Sleep And Stigma 25:24 Sleep and Relationship Health 26:22 Sleep Communication Loop 28:34 Therapy and Sleeping Apart 31:23 Stigma and Sleep History 34:33 Dating and Chronotypes 37:28 How to Talk About Sleep 39:03 Divorce and Sleep Recovery 42:11 Sleep Divorce Explained 44:58 Gender Differences in Sleep 47:49 Kids and Family Sleep Habits 49:54 Nightly Ritual for Connection 52:28 They Said It Quotes Game 58:18 Infant Sleep Side Topic 01:00:10 Final Wrap and Thanks

Guest Dr. Rachel Glik returns to examine family estrangement, social media’s influence, misconceptions parents have, trauma language, reconciliation steps, when reconciliation may be unsafe, grieving “living loss,” healing despite no contact, pain-to-growth reframing, and forgiveness, reacting to quotes from Anne Lamott, Mark Twain, and Leo Tolstoy. Topics 03:51 Whats on the Docket 04:13 Gray Divorce Reframed 06:34 Co Parenting After Divorce 09:44 Kids See It Coming 11:39 Overrated Underrated 15:17 Mini Golf Red Flags 17:03 Sponsor Break 18:59 Dr Rachel Glick Returns 19:38 Estrangement Trend Explained 21:26 Social Media Therapy Speak 22:06 Parents Blind Spots 23:31 Trauma Labels And Tolerance 24:58 Reconciliation Done Right 26:38 When Reconnection Is Unsafe 28:05 Grieving A Living Loss 30:07 Healing Without Contact 31:49 Pain Into Growth Steps 35:26 Apologies And Forgiveness 37:57 Boundaries With Compassion 39:46 They Said It Quotes Game 48:12 Closing And Final Thoughts

Evan and Producer Dave celebrate episode 100 of the Schein On podcast, reflecting on the show’s focus on human stories behind divorce and relationships and previewing guest Allison O’Brien. On the docket, they discuss Carl Pavano’s public prenup fight and how divorce litigation can become humiliating and permanent, especially for children. Allison O’Brien, a communication and leadership development consultant, explains damaging myths about communication, including assumptions about listening and body language, and stresses preparing to listen, using inquiry, and asking strong open-ended questions. She connects listening to leadership trust and workplace wellbeing, shares her TED Talk experience about growing up in a high-conflict divorce and later navigating an amicable divorce and friendship with her ex for her children’s sake, argues divorce isn’t necessarily failure, and warns that blame and ego fuel conflict while collaboration can improve outcomes.   More on Allison: https://www.lq-listeningintelligence.com/   Topics 00:44 Episode 100 Milestone 01:17 Why This Podcast Exists 04:07 Meet Allison OBrien 04:57 Docket Pavano Prenup Drama 06:19 Divorce Gets Personal Public 09:34 Overrated Underrated Begins 10:03 Winning The Divorce Myth 13:22 Reconciliation After Separation 14:43 Food Trucks Take 16:35 Road Trips Relationship Test 23:01 Allison On Listening Myths 25:51 Intent Versus Impact 28:06 Preparing To Listen 32:34 Listening As Leadership 36:05 Workplace Connection Research 39:10 From Work To Divorce 39:22 Her TED Talk Vulnerability 40:00 Fear Before the Talk 41:15 Pride in Amicable Divorce 42:38 Why Divorce Choices Matter 44:36 Breaking the Conflict Cycle 52:41 Childhood Scars and Shame 56:21 Redefining Divorce Success 01:00:39 Blame and Emotional Inertia 01:03:30 Ego Free Co Parenting 01:06:56 Divorce as Leadership 01:09:49 Quotes on Listening Clarity 01:15:57 Knowing People Better 01:20:12 Wrap Up and Thanks

The guest is Robi Schlaff, former director of the Westchester County Office for Women and executive director of the Westchester Family Justice Center, who explains building coordinated domestic violence and child abuse initiatives, including a Domestic Violence High Risk Team and multidisciplinary investigations, and the challenges of implementing policy across agencies and police. She critiques family court delays and discontinuous hearings, addresses misconceptions about domestic violence risk and offender presentation, discusses burnout boundaries, shares a survivor’s courageous public testimony, and advises friends and neighbors not to urge leaving but to connect victims with experts or call police if in immediate danger.   Topics 02:32 The Docket Dear Annie 03:39 Supporting Friends After Divorce 08:40 What Not To Say 11:40 Overrated Staying For Kids 14:02 Prenup Infidelity Clauses 15:50 Reputation In Divorce 16:50 Mocktails And Divorce 18:17 Inventing A Show Mocktail 19:39 Margarita Banter 20:05 Museum Gift Shop Debate 24:27 Meet Robi Schlaff  25:06 Making Change in Government 26:09 What Makes Policy Work 28:37 Family Court Fixes 32:49 Misconceptions in DV Cases 36:06 Public Risks and Outreach 38:39 Burnout and Boundaries 43:41 Leadership Secret Sauce 45:20 Survivor Courage Story 47:11 What Neighbors Should Do 48:27 Episode Wrap and Thanks

Evan interviews award-winning director Elizabeth Lo about her documentary Mistress Dispeller, following Teacher Wang’s work with a wife, husband, and mistress in China, and explores empathy, cultural “saving face,” legal/ethical challenges, filmmaking style, and the documentary marketplace.   Topics 00:46 Season Intro and Guest Tease 01:17 Producer Banter and Setup 02:40 On the Docket: Shaq Divorce 04:14 Kids and Divorce Reflections 07:46 Parenting After Separation 10:22 Overrated/Underrated Begins 10:50 Legal Takes Business and CPAs 13:56 Co Parenting Communication Rules 15:54 Fun Picks Cornhole and Photobooths 20:38 Introducing Elizabeth Lo 21:29 Mistress Dispeller Origin Story 22:31 Teacher Wang Philosophy on Pain 23:59 Cheating Husbands Beyond Villains 26:01 Wives Culture and Saving Face 27:36 Directing Without Taking Sides 30:00 Editing With Restraint 30:20 Could It Work In The West 31:56 Legal And Ethical Minefields 34:01 Reconsent And Participant Protection 35:27 Mistress Beyond Villainy 36:43 What Mistress Dispelling Reveals 38:14 Participant Reactions And Trust 40:23 Filmmaking Style And Craft 42:15 Motivation And Doc Market Shift 44:19 Monogamy Love And Reflection 47:20 Future Love Stories 49:04 They Said It Quotes Segment 56:28 Documentary As Poetry 01:01:00 Wrap Up And Farewell

Evan delves into the complex world of divorce and relationships, spotlighting how financial dynamics impact these processes. The episode features an insightful discussion with journalist and author Josie Cox, who talks about her article on the rise in divorce rates when women out-earn men and her new book, 'Women Money Power: The Rise and Fall of Economic Equality.' The conversation covers the psychological and financial aspects of divorce, societal expectations, and the gender pay gap. Additionally, the episode presents the popular segment 'Overrated Underrated' and explores recent headlines in the world of divorce and family law.   Topics 00:38 Season Six Kickoff and Reflections 03:54 Explosive Divorce Headlines 10:13 Overrated or Underrated: Divorce Edition 19:41 Interview with Journalist Josie Cox 28:38 Generational Shifts in Financial Dynamics 29:25 The Surprising Conservatism of Younger Generations 32:10 The Evolving Perception of Prenuptial Agreements 35:27 Financial Literacy and Gender Inclusion 39:42 The Gender Pay Gap: A Deep Dive 46:21 Addressing Gender Inequality in Professional Sports 52:00 Closing Thoughts and Future Directions 53:01 Fun Segment: They Said It

A rich conversation with Dr. Pepper Schwartz, an acclaimed sociologist, sexologist, and bestselling author. Dr. Schwartz discusses the importance of communication and intimacy in relationships, debunks myths about sex and aging, and provides practical advice for individuals at different stages of life. The episode concludes with a segment called 'They Said It,' where Dr. Schwartz offers her perspectives on notable quotes related to love, sex, and relationships.   Topics 02:40 Reflecting on 2025 and Looking Ahead to 2026 04:47 The Power of Pause and Measuring Success 07:18 Reflecting on Past Episodes and Guests 11:21 Discussing Relationships and Marriage 16:06 Dating Post-Divorce and Intimacy 26:12 Financial Planning and Divorce 34:11 End of Year Reflections and Future Plans 38:49 The Physical Benefits of Climax 39:22 Sexuality After Age 50 42:00 Gray Divorce and Sexuality 43:53 Misinterpretations in Human Sexuality 47:56 AI Companions and Relationships 50:25 Reality TV and Marriage 54:12 Politics and Love 57:13 Advice for Different Ages 59:03 Communication in Relationships 01:02:09 Rituals to Keep Chemistry Alive 01:07:56 Famous Quotes on Love and Sex

Evan is joined by communication experts Dr. Dennis Becker and Robin Golinski, co-authors of 'Outwitting the Manipulator.' The episode delves into recognizing and responding to manipulation in real-time, particularly within the context of high-conflict divorces and everyday relationships. Topics include common manipulation tactics such as gaslighting and love bombing, managing post-divorce parenting, and the significance of premarital counseling. The podcast also features a discussion on handling manipulation from leadership in the workplace and offers practical advice for those dealing with manipulators. The episode concludes with the fun segment 'They Said It,' where Evan and guests analyze famous quotes related to manipulation. More on Robin & Dennis at https://www.outwitinrealtime.com/ Find Outwitting the Manipulator: The Podcast at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/outwitting-the-manipulator/id1644706232 Topics 02:39 Holiday Struggles During Divorce 05:48 Co-Parenting During the Holidays 11:18 Life After Divorce: Remarriage and Moving On 13:06 Overrated or Underrated: Fun and Legal Topics 24:06 Interview with Dr. Dennis Becker and Robin Golinski  36:51 Understanding Manipulative Personalities 37:34 Can Manipulators Change? 38:15 Manipulation Tactics in the Workplace 39:29 Mastering Skills to Handle Manipulation 43:11 Manipulation in High Conflict Divorces 44:17 Communicating with a Manipulative Ex 47:06 Spotting Manipulation in Legal Cases 59:09 Quotes on Manipulation 01:04:32 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Evan dives into the complexities of divorce and addiction with featured guest Erin Khar, author of 'Strung Out'. The episode covers Erin's personal journey through a 15-year heroin addiction, her approach to recovery, and her advice on navigating relationships plagued by substance abuse. The conversation also touches on broader societal issues, such as the stigma around addiction and the flawed family court system. Listeners will find practical advice on handling the holiday season amidst divorce, the nuances of parental alienation claims, and thoughts on cultural phenomena like Taylor Swift. The episode concludes with an engaging segment featuring quotes from notable figures and a lively discussion on the underrated cranberry sauce.   Topics 00:15 Divorce and the Holiday Season 05:26 AI Relationships and Legal Challenges 12:04 Overrated or Underrated: Pop Culture Edition 23:14 Interview with Erin Khar: Addiction and Recovery 36:15 Addressing Skeptical Senators on Harm Reduction 36:47 The Economic Argument for Medicated Assisted Treatment 39:05 Personal Reflections on Writing a Memoir 40:40 The Dichotomy of Heroin Use 43:39 The Unwinnable War on Drugs 45:41 Advocating for Harm Reduction and Community Support 50:51 Balancing Advice and Personal Experience 52:51 Lessons from Beverly Hills 90210 54:40 Changing the Language Around Addiction 56:31 Parenting and Personal Accountability 01:14:05 The Importance of Sharing Your Story 01:19:36 Final Thoughts and Reflections

In Episode 93 of The Schein On Podcast, Evan talks to Dr. Tracey Dalgleish, a clinical psychologist and relationship expert, to discuss her latest book, 'You, Your Husband and His Mother.' The conversation delves into the intricacies of the relationship triangle between husbands, their wives, and mother-in-laws. Tracey provides actionable advice for couples aiming to strengthen their marriage while managing familial boundaries. The episode also touches on significant issues such as the current state of divorce law, the value of farmers' markets, and the communal joy of fantasy sports leagues. Additionally, listeners get treated to the engaging 'Overrated/Underrated' and 'They Said It' segments, making for a well-rounded and insightful episode.   Topics 00:33 Exploring Divorce Dynamics with Dr. Tracey Dalgleish 02:47 The Impact of Equal Custody Laws 08:42 Overrated or Underrated 25:08 Navigating Boundaries with Family 26:26 Practical Tools for Tough Moments 28:25 Personal Struggles and Professional Insights 30:12 The Power of Vulnerability in Therapy 34:01 Shifting Perspectives on Marriage and Divorce 35:27 Balancing Professional and Personal Life 38:53 Advice for Couples in Therapy 42:58 Co-Parenting After Divorce 44:42 Reflecting on the New Book 46:48 Fun Segment: They Said It 52:34 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Evan welcomes Dr. Rachel Glik, a relationship specialist and author of 'A Soulful Marriage.' Dr. Glik shares insights on maintaining healthy marriages, the misconceptions about love, and her personal experiences that inspired her book. The episode also includes fun segments like 'Overrated or Underrated' and 'They Said It,' where the hosts debate pumpkin spice lattes, reality dating shows, and the wisdom of quotes from famous personalities.   Topics 00:30 Fall Season and Football Talk 01:52 Birthday Wishes and Aging Secrets 02:33 Exciting Episode Preview 03:33 Diving into the Docket: Trophy Husband 04:03 Discussion on Income Disparity in Marriages 10:29 Overrated or Underrated: Rebound Relationships 12:51 Overrated or Underrated: Co-Parenting Apps 15:03 Overrated or Underrated: Board Games 16:33 Overrated or Underrated: Reality TV Dating Shows 20:15 Overrated or Underrated: Pumpkin Spice Everything 23:34 Introduction to Dr. Rachel Glik 24:10 Inspiration Behind 'A Soulful Marriage' 25:42 Challenges in Relationships 28:16 The Importance of Physical Intimacy 29:43 Misconceptions About Love 31:24 Early Marriage Counseling 39:21 The Role of Quantum Physics in Relationships 40:49 The Relevance of Marriage Today 44:15 Impact of 'A Soulful Marriage' 46:58 Fun Segment: They Said It 52:19 Conclusion and Where to Find the Book

Evan concludes the summer with a compelling episode featuring Bela Gandhi, founder of the Smart Dating Academy. They explore themes around modern dating, the impact of online dating, and the process of finding love post-divorce. Bela shares her journey from a career in business to becoming a renowned dating coach, offering invaluable insights on dating logistics, recognizing red flags, and debunking common myths. The episode also features discussions on the financial and emotional tolls of divorce and includes engaging segments like 'Overrated or Underrated' and 'They Said It.'   Topics 00:31 Reflecting on the End of Summer 01:31 Exploring Modern Romance with Bela Ghandi 02:33 Diving into Divorce Trends 08:02 Weaponized Incompetence in Relationships 11:12 Overrated or Underrated: Divorce and Beyond 21:55 Interview with Bela Ghandi Journey and Insights 30:18 Blending Love and Compatibility 30:48 Generational Perspectives on Love 31:37 Unexpected Career Paths 32:19 The Role of Chemistry in Relationships 32:48 Modern Dating Challenges 34:20 The Paradox of Choice in Online Dating 35:51 Dating During and After Divorce 39:44 Debunking Dating Myths 44:53 Psychological Insights into Dating 53:14 The Impact of Politics on Relationships 54:27 Final Thoughts and Advice