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I believe its fair to say that the case on everyone's minds today is Lindsey Clancey. Its everywhere. How do we as a society look at this case, evaluate this tragedy and come to an agreement of how she should be punished (or not)? For me who spent far too long examining Chris Watts, what how why.....its hard to not draw at least SOME comparisons, even though Watts never gave birth, experienced post partum or diagnosed as mentally ill but the outcome is still the same. And yet one is a monster and the other a victim.

Its been 8 years since a seemingly loving handsome doting father, the kind of person who appeared as kind, gentle, caring, loving and nurturing did the unthinkable. After 8 years since this terrible tragedy and countless articles, books, documentaries, videos....we still dont have the answer to the key question that haunted everyone who followed this case. Why??? As everyone knows he had a mistress who he fell hard for and fast. Could this and this alone Inspire someone to completely destroy all that came before??? The family through all outward appearances via thousands of photos and videos he seemed to adore. He seemed to have zero long term plan. So what was it all for??? 8 years later we are no wiser. We hear more and more similar stories. Is there any lesson or moral that can be derived? Perhaps not. Maybe all that can be said is that sometimes bad things happen to good people. No rhyme or reason. In this tale everyone lost. RiP Shannan, Bella, Cece and Nico.

Just a quickie about the Brian Khobeger bombshell attempt to withdraw his guilty plea. Will Brian get another Bite of the apple? Will the true crime community finally get the trial they waited over 3 years for to finally put to rest key questions that have poured hot molten lava over the debate between Probergers vs Guilters??? Guess we will see

What do Chris Watts, Brian Khoberger and Taylor Parker have in common? Other than being convicted murderers?

On November 13, 2022, four University of Idaho students—Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Kaylee Goncalves—were killed in their off-campus home in Moscow, Idaho, a small college town in the Palouse region not known for this kind of violence. After nearly three years of pretrial proceedings, Bryan Kohberger, a criminal justice graduate student, pled guilty, closing the case without a trial. This episode looks at the timeline of the investigation, what the plea agreement did and didn't address, and why some observers feel the absence of a trial left key questions unresolved. We aim to separate documented fact from online speculation, and to keep the focus on accountability and the victims, rather than sensationalizing the person responsible. This is a sensitive case involving real victims and their families. We approach it with care and encourage listeners to do the same.

A guilty plea ended the case against Bryan Kohberger. It didn't end the questions surrounding the murders of four University of Idaho students.  We look at what we know — and what we still don't.  On November 13, 2022, four University of Idaho students—Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Kaylee Goncalves—were killed in their off-campus home in Moscow, Idaho, a small college town in the Palouse region not known for this kind of violence. After nearly three years of pretrial proceedings, Bryan Kohberger, a criminal justice graduate student, pled guilty, closing the case without a trial. This episode looks at the timeline of the investigation, what the plea agreement did and didn't address, and why some observers feel the absence of a trial left key questions unresolved.

The truth is often stranger than fiction. And this seems to be true in this case of Mackenzie Shirilla, the young woman who crashed her car into a brick wall at nearly 100mph. This feels like the kind of case MADE for Netflix, made for content creators to discuss, dissect, parody, and analyze with a multitude of interpretations. I cannot say with certainty what happened that fateful morning. There were 3 people in that car. Only 1 survived and she claims she does not remember. In a case like this, do we ever actually get to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but??? OR is it simply the eye of the beholder?

This case is unbelievably crazy. It makes NO sense and seems just cruel for crueltys sake. While I hold out hope for Nancy, Savannah and family after a few deadlines that have passed I cannot say it looks good. But will see. What a world!!! We need some good news.

In just a few weeks it will be 7 years since the Watts tragedy that took place August 13th 2018. Where on earth does the time go? Why does it go by so fast???  Within the past 7 years people have searched high and low for NK and many have claimed they've seen her at the gas station, 711, the mall, the beach and shared pictures to prove it. But all of these were like Elvis sitings. Total nonsense. They were merely women with long dark brown ponytails.    But a few weeks ago approaching the 7 year anniversary since the tragic killings of Shanann, Bella, Cece and Nico there WAS what at least appeared to be a legit sighting and receipts to prove it. Did NK actually come out of hiding?

It's unlikely that there is anyone on earth who by now has not heard the name Gabby Petito. This heartbreaking tale captured the world's attention and through her van life journey and social media posts and the latest Netflix documentary the world got to know and fall in love with her. Gabby was the all American girl who seemed to fully embody all the traits that people admire and aspire to; pure joy, endless smiles, a gentle soul, a kind spirit, adventuous, exuberant and a zest for life and living to the absolute fullest.  She was an artist from the very beginning and seemed to want everything to align with her vision of creating a beautiful life from a boyfriend who she adored, the trip of a lifetime and a budding career as a creator which would allow her to incorporate all of these.  If not for the tragedy that befelled her most of us would never have known Gabby. The world got to see a snapshot of her life. But I think it's fair to say had we had the chance to know Gabby we all would have loved her.

The case of Ellen Greenberg is a mystery wrapped in a riddle. The complexity seems on par with Jonbenet or other cases that baffle the public for decades. Like so many other incredibly high profile cases that get massive media attention Ellen also was extremely pretty and seemed to have it all. While it's already been 14 years since the incident the case was recently back in the news with a bombshell triggering a resurgance of attention, unanswered questions and interest in this case. Will this mystery ever be solved?   Spoiler Alert. Ellen was stabbed 20 times to the back of her neck and head, but somehow this was ruled a suicide. Huh? What? Really?  "surely you can't be serious".  "I AM serious, and don't call me Shirley".

Sarah Boone was sentenced to life in prison without the eligiblity of parole. This after being offered a 15 year plea deal for which she would have gotten credit for time served and released in only a few more years. While that may have seemed like a raw deal for Sarah and nothing she wanted to seriously consider, an aquittal was highly unlikely. She rolled the dice and lost.   Did Sarah get what she deserved? Was this intentional? Malicious? Or was it merely a tragic accident in the throws of alcohol induced mayhem? And if so should she pay for this with the rest of her life? I suppose the question of whether it was intentional or unintentional holds the key to that unanswered question. Did she mean to do this? it reminds me a lot of the OJ book, attempting to say "I didn't do it, but IF I did do it....". Sarah is the only one who knows what she intended. But whether she meant to kill him or not the outcome is the same.

Sarah Boone's trial has wrapped up and she has been sentenced. This after turning down a gift of 15 years (with time served) believing that she could somehow beat the charges and show the judge, jury and the court of public opinion that it was actually SHE who was the true victim (not the guy who was suffocated in a suitcase while she told him he should probably STFU). Sarah's story is one that even the most talented and creative screenplay writers could not possibly make up. People have used many adjectives to try and characterize Sarah from diva, narcissist, sociopath, but to me the one word that I feel best captures the essence of Sarah is hubris.

Case closed on Watts. No new updates, but will revisit as needed. This episode if you care to hear about sometihing other than Watts; is about one of the most bizarre and chilling stories I've ever heard. If you are unaware/unfamiliar, on February 24th, 2020, Sarah Boone and Jorge Torres, a couple who lived together were supposedly playing around, having a good time and enjoying each others company, though at some point Jorge ended up locked in a zipped up suitcase unable to break free while Sarah who did or did not purposely arrange this ("I fell asleep", "unintentional!") drunkenly chastised him while he was gasping for air begging to be let out. I'd say this was the plot of a horror movie, but this actually happened.